Router Template Tips & Avoiding Router Kickback

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As our line of templates grows and gets more popular, the inquiries we get from our customers how to properly use them and avoid router kickback grows as well. There is nothing like a hands-on demonstration, so this video was created to let you in on some tips and tricks to get the best result out of our router templates and avoiding a scary router kickback scenario.
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@user-wj8nt5wf6j Жыл бұрын

The key on the bit is spiral versus straight cutter. Spiral or compression bits provide the shearing cut that makes for a better finish and a safer cut.

@RazorStrap 10 ай бұрын

Two of the big benefits of spiral bits is less tear out and less likely to kick back. A compression (up & down) spiral bit reduces tear out on both the top and bottom of the board by cutting downward from the top and upward from the bottom at the same time. In this particular case though, were both the top and bottom is going to get profiled, tear out is not a big deal.

@cherylbrown2240 Жыл бұрын

This video was right on time. I'm only 2 days into using a router and I've already chopped up 2 pieces due to kickback. This advice definitely helps. I'll be ordering the Amana tools bit today. Thanks!

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Ha! Glad we could help Cheryl.

@tremolobar 5 ай бұрын

Same thing with me. Ruined two pieces.

@ridercoachdanielle3220 Жыл бұрын

thank you! I just bought some router templates from you. I'm very excited to have them, and I'm glad to have this video!

@stuartwilkinson7190 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another excellent demonstration Sean, you are my encyclopaedia on this subject. Brilliant!

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying so Stuart!

@williamfritsche5029 Жыл бұрын

Great tips thank you for your fine details and easy to follow video.

@davidguinta4550 6 ай бұрын

Excellent!

@jaimegenovajr3257 Жыл бұрын

The video instruction that I'm looking for! Thanks

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

You are most welcome!

@jrdvl Жыл бұрын

Great video !!! you have described in detail the right way of using the router. I have just checked out your website,and i think a whole other wood working world just opened up to me.I will ordering the molds and templates for sure,especially any nautical designs.I am really glad i found this channel.

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying so and thanks for stopping by.

@CreativeCustomDesigns Жыл бұрын

I'm definitely going to be ordering some of these (3 or 4) just have to decide which ones since they are on sale. I'm going to be looking for the ones that match the silicon moulds since I'm looking to learn resin soon.

@Lazosrusticos 18 күн бұрын

thx bro, nice material for own safe

@kevinkronewitter3374 Жыл бұрын

Nice demo. Thanks.

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying so Kevin.

@bitsurfer0101 23 күн бұрын

I use isopropyl alcohol to take off glue stick. It weakens the glue nicely.

@catat9442 11 ай бұрын

Very helpful, would it be possible to demonstrate the routing of the flame style 2 template? Thank you!

@lupenielsen Жыл бұрын

You are an excellent teacher, Sean! Thank you for putting out this video. It was so good, that I subscribed to your channel because of it. :-) One safety note, though: The blade on your band saw was too exposed for comfort. ;-) I wish you continued success!

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input on this Lupe. Ill be the first to mention I was less than attentive in "shop safety class". Thank you for the response on that.

@bentucker1377 Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you showed that router. I have the same one and was wondering if it was decent For these projects.

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Totally does the job!

@LuisRRoman 5 ай бұрын

Just my two cents advice, the easy way to remember - if is inside cut, go clockwise, if it is outside cut, go counter clockwise.

@cherylridone2155 5 ай бұрын

The Amana 46297 is listed as a solid carbide spiral downcut ultra trim router bit, for about $75...sounds like a "semi-pro" level bit to me, though I personally have found the more expensive spiral up/down solid carbide bits an excellent investment for certain project applicarions...(David)

@richardhaggarty5758 Жыл бұрын

I use a large sharpie, leaves a heavy black line that accounts for the offset you mentioned. Great video!

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

That makes sense and would certainly work as well!

@bentucker1377 Жыл бұрын

A large sharpie is a staple in my template tracing also

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

@@bentucker1377 There must be something to this sharpie thing!

@seanjoshua7972 5 ай бұрын

Is the bit you use an uncut or downcut bit? I recently purchased an amana 51520 down cut, and it seems to still get some tearout and some kick back

@thebadasseryfactory Жыл бұрын

I havent used a router yet, but you got kick back on those bit because they were straight bits. Straights cut more wood at a time. The 80 dollar on is a spiral LOL

@swolleneyes 10 ай бұрын

spirals can also cause severe kickback if you do not follow his tips.

@GastronomicEntity 3 ай бұрын

Reckon the hole is the riskiest bit if that grabs

@teresademosky-tippett5669 Жыл бұрын

Sean, I've been through 2 of the $80 Amana bits so far. Both broke due to kickback on the rounded edges and interior edges of the handles. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Do you have any more suggestins?

@Caleb_Gosiak Жыл бұрын

Love the content as always! I am curious if you have a good video or advice on doing the cuts that are inside the template (the holes). The exterior cuts are all going well, but I am consistently getting kickback on the interior cuts. I am using the 1/4" downcut but that you suggested in the video, and am trimming away lot of the material. Selfishly I would love to see a video specifically on this subject. Thanks again for the great content!

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Hi Caleb. I don't have a video on that specifically, but personally I have never had an issue with kickback on the interior holes or handle parts. This might be a dumb question but are you sure you are going against the direction of spin on the router bit?

@Caleb_Gosiak Жыл бұрын

@@CraftedElements I think so. If I am viewing your technique correctly it is; push the material towards the bit and move in a counterclockwise rotation around the template. I always have the issue right when I start, so I'm guessing it's a question of finesse when starting, and holding it firm enough to keep moving in that counterclockwise rotation.

@matthewransom6469 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for that. I actually have your free flow handle template along with 2 other handle templates. I also have one of your cheese board templates. Haven't got to use it yet but excited to. I have a question tho..I was using my router table but had a bad kick back and it scared me pretty bad. Now I know why. I have a huge half inch bit in that thing. I want to get the same bit you are using but when I bought my table from its previous owner it only came with a half inch collet. It's a porter cable 2.5 hp I beleive. It's a big router. My question is can you put a reducing collet on my router???? I tried to mount my dewalt fixed based router to the table but it's too small. It's a jessem router table

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Hi Matthew. Thats common, most routers come with a 1/4" and 1/2" collet. I assume if you bought it used perhaps the previous owner lost and didnt give you the 1/4" collet, but you can definitely get them.

@paulbrittain3925 Жыл бұрын

Great tips. Thanks. I don't have a router table so I use a hand held router. Still get some kickback. Is there anything different I need to do?

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Paul. I wish i could provide input on this but I rarely ever use a handheld router, I find my router table covers 95% of what I ever want to do here in the shop.

@paulbrittain3925 Жыл бұрын

@@CraftedElements Thanks. Guess a router table is ony Christmas Wish list LOL.

@jwilliam1542 Жыл бұрын

Good video. I definitely agree with the Amana 46297 assessment versus the other flush trim bits shown in this video. Yes, the Amana is pretty expensive, but so far well worth the cost. It has definitely allowed me to cut more intricate template patterns without the kickback/chip-out that I've experienced using other bits. The only question I have is how long should I expect the Amana bit to last?

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Funny you should ask because later that day (post filming) i was trimming acrylic and destroyed the bit (it cracked in half!). But... I was likely using it for 2-3 months by this point.

@ronkrueger3496 Жыл бұрын

After blowing out a couple boards, I "bit" the bullet and bought a Whiteside UDFT5152. It's a 1/2" shank 1/2" cd but works great on crazy grain boards with less flex than a 1/4" bit.

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

@@ronkrueger3496 Nice... Well if it works for you and has no kickback, get it done!

@majordon666 Жыл бұрын

Any suggestions as to the best place to buy the Amana bit in Canada?

@CreativeCustomDesigns Жыл бұрын

@@ronkrueger3496 My thoughts exactly.......I would think that a 1/4" bit after it's been milled is prone to flex....I'll be looking at a 1/2" bit as well.

@DAM_Woodworking Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on using a 1/4" compression bit instead of a spiral cut bit?

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Don, they work as well. My understanding is you get the best of up-cut and down-cut, as long as you keep the wood in the middle. Seems like it would be beneficial but I have yet to use one with our templates here in the shop.

@majordon666 Жыл бұрын

Hi. I have purchased 4 or 5 of your templates, and have been putting them to use on a number of boards. I listened to your video and even purchased the expensive bit you suggest. I confess I am a bit confused about your suggestion to push the board “against” the rotation. The rotation is counter clockwise as you mention, which means, I think , that the board should be pushed from right to left when relatively straight. When the template is curved, however, you are no longer going “against” the rotation when you get to the other side of the circle, as it were. When I have stopped there to start elsewhere, to move against the rotation, I have a lot of kickback, have ruined two boards now, and the bushings on my new bit flew off, never to be seen again. This always happens when I am rounding the bend, as it were, of your handle templates. Any suggestions I am finding this very frustrating? Thanks.

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Its hard for me to truly visualize what you are describing for me to provide insight. However if you do end up stopping somewhere, you shouldn't get kickback starting again because you should be starting at a point of your piece that has already been trimmed with the router in the last past, then proceeding to the part that you need to continue trimming. The bushings flying off is strange, I have never had that happen before so im at a loss. If you purchased the bit from Amazon though, you can return it for a refund, even if its damaged.

@wallacenock7423 6 ай бұрын

May I ask, is the router bit and up cut or down cut. I have a trend and dewalt router and am not sure what speed they should run at as its from 1-7 on both and I have aa1/4 and a 1/2 inch router bit and I have followed your tutorial and have had three nasty kickbacks using up cut spiral router bits. Please could you help.

@CraftedElements 6 ай бұрын

These are generally downcut router bits. We run them around 18,000 rpm.

@CraftedElements 6 ай бұрын

You might also be interested in another youtube video describing a starter pin: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/brGJjZSdyNvKqJc.html

@bradleymccollum9492 Жыл бұрын

So, I have the cow and pig template. Everything is going great until I get to the hooves part, or just in general, tight spaces, and I get tear out. I go slow, hold firmly, have the bits, and right when I hit that tight spot, a small chunk goes. Im at a loss of what to do at this point. When you have time, what are your thoughts?

@CraftedElements Жыл бұрын

Hi Bradley. Honestly all the tips and tricks I have up my sleeves are in this video. Perhaps try a different, higher quality bit, or speed up your router.

@troymiller3989 9 ай бұрын

Not sure how your not getting kickback. Must be your bit/router speed. I am using a dewalt palm router on a table like that but max rpm is not very high. Tried many bits all spiral including compression and on cross grains 1/8th is still to much, bites every time, with grain its fine. May have to look at a bigger router, mostly doing band saw then sanding the cross grains now but its slow. Forstner bits work great for holes.