Then why don’t they talk how much writers make yearly? Most jobs have no residuals. You were paid to give a product or service, and then move on.

@@phoenix5054 The way the system works now, most writers can't make a living being writers. But I think you found the solution. They can always just 'move on.' Why didn't the WGA think of that?

@@lynnturman8157 Because they know they are in a highly visible profession where whining will get media attention? Most people don't have that luxury.

Hi Lynn, let me introduce you to chat GPT. $100 per month program they could write a script based on tens of thousands of different award-winning Scripps that have been created since the beginning of film history. Chat GPT is also capable of production planning and helping me acquire permits for film sets. Essentially making about 90% of the production cost of a movie disappear. If you get your way, this will be our future. If you don’t get your way, this will be our future. Cope.

@@phoenix5054they want houses in malibu, they all work and live really well. They want to be rich….don’t buy into the starvation narrative, it’s nonsense. They all get unemployment and tons of benefits…🙄🙄🙄

Those are both terrible... and so have most things been for a while now.

Game of Thrones is what made him into a superstar, The Mandalorian and The Last of Us has only strengthen that.

@@alex30425 Yes, Oberyn Martell was his breakout role, but you can't compare the levels of fandemonium to what's happening right now for Pedro in 2023 after the mega success of being a leading man in TLOU. Of course being in the Mandalorian at the same time has helped greatly. :)

@@alex30425 Game of Thrones, Narcos and Kingsman marked a breakout moment for him that solidified him into a superstar. It's not one role that gave him everything else

it's a too many cooks in the kitchen situation . too many writers , not enough jobs, so now they have to hire too many writers per show/movie which affects the writing overall . what we need is better writing .

Trust me u don't want to do that

@@population-_-420 why?

@@martinavila7401 Did the guy ever reply to your "why"? Of course not. He just knows how to shoot from the lip. Mindless.

Did they make Velma

They make lots of money. They want to get paid for past work…it’s nonsense. Corporate execs are super greedy, but these guys want BMWs and malibu houses…don’t believe that they are “starving” 🙄🙄

@@jackjackthompson5771 I understand the general sense of greed and excess in Hollywood, but I don't think it hurts to share the wealth. The minute we make excuses for less pay equity, the 1% win.

@@vingram100 From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs

@@vingram100 well how much do they get paid?

If AI writes better than they've been doing I'm fine with that. Because their writing has sucked A lately.

@@brianlevine249 There's well written stuff out there if you know where to look. But yeah there is increasingly more sloppy writing out there. But I wonder how much of that is the writers fault or executive meddling. That changes the context of the issue with AI. Because for example at this point AI won't do all the writing. Writers are concerned that they'll be forced to revise bad AI first drafts and get paid less. So imagine and exec gets a cheesy AI first draft written up and writers are forced to work with it. It may make content actually worse.

@@TyroneLT It may...but honestly they're at rock bottom now. They get much worst and they start falling into the so bad it's good category. And you're probably right about execs meddling. But unfortunately all that does is make it hard to tell who's actually good and bad at writing. My gut tells me most of them are bad at this point as evidenced by the horrendous dialogue being written into these shows and movies. A good writer could at least manage good dialogue in an otherwise bad draft.

@@TyroneLT I mean, I prefer stories about being human to be written by humans. Something is lost in an artificially created script.

The Canadian Guild says they won't let 'struck' companies escape through Canada guild work.

I heard Netflix just invested 2B in more Korean content, so that's probably true.

Pretty sure some of these people breaking their backs might be writing in their spare time to get their possible big break. Stephen King was one of those people.😌

Labor is labor. Why wouldn't they sympathize with fellow workers trying to make a sustainable living. Is physical labor the only labor that matters? You think that writers in TV/film don't deal with 14-16 hour days under sometimes abusive conditions? You think that minimum wage workers don't understand the larger issue of companies making profit by exploiting their employees? Not everyone's that blind to the bigger picture.

@@TeresaJusino I guess you have a point in that we in the general public don't know much about what it's like to be a writer. How much do they make? How long is a project? Don't they get copyrights? Isn't their union negotiating for them every year?

@@IM2357 To answer your questions in order: 1. They make peanuts 2. Brutally long 3. That's up for negotiation 4. No they are not.

@@TeresaJusino Because these people called us evil when we objected to outsourcing and mass immigration causing our purchasing power to drop like a lead ballon.

LoL.. what do they even need teamsters for? These aren't coal miners or off shore oil riggers..

@@ericmatthews9799 my bet is the teamsters are losing money and this helps them. AI will replace them soon enough, but yeah, stay in one lane like construction. It’s organized crime

And the teamsters get paid by their union while sitting there stopping production

@@whatsthemonsterbelow the union, at this point, can only "squeeze" so much.. while trying to remain relevant! At this point, the only thing that can back them, is the media and "optics" backing them.. but the business has been too exposed! And the "living wage", has been blown up to, the L.A. lifestyle and the contracts that they are held to.. the "cut" that has to spread around.. and now, with the EGS, the creativity that has to be limited.. and rules that follow..

AI isn't as good and will lose a lot of money so no.

It makes it possible to earn a living wage! Instead of writing while homeless!

A reply on here vanished but... no the current level of writing of writers in America is not the same as it used to be. Foreign work is competitive and costs less. I'm sure there is a compromise there but anyone can see what the execs see.

Does 'other countries' include those without slave wage labour? Asking for a living wage is reasonable (Must take into account local cost of living).

If an actor on set is paid 200,000 -2 million, does it make sense to refuse writers pay and time which allow for competent writing to be produced? Or would you like to see crap tv flood the market?

Most Hollywood TV of 2020s isn't as good as it was 10 or 15 years ago. They aren't the best writers anymore but they write the best stuff in English. Which is going to shift quickly as well. But also yes what the writers are asking for is reasonable. My response was based on seeing the pattern in other industries. If they get what they ask for, they will be the exception and not the norm.

@@alico8134 Excellent reply. Thank you for clarifying.

Not true. Writers don’t work all year. They are often 4-6 week (and often less) jobs on Television. They are unable to make this a full time career anymore because of how residuals (what they rely on when not working) have dried up. A writer for Handmaid’s Tale works as an Uber driver most of the year. Streaming have shrunk the size of writer’s rooms and there is no opportunity for growth.

Talk to me when you are replaced by a robot smart guy.

@@lisabergeron8120 Thanks for noticing... this is your opportunity to not call the Hollywood system your daddy anymore, and produce your own visual representation of your script the way you see it, using ai, and whoever tells the best stories will float to the top. Go ahead, try and make that sound like a bad thing just so you don't have retract your previous statement, thus proving your head is in the wrong place. You're never going to cry upstream enough to change the trajectory of cyclical patterns in history. There's going to be swaths of people, droves of generations that just plain don't care whether a real camera or microphone was used to make their favorite movies/stories. Same way you don't care if your accountant is an actual mathematician or uses a calculator. Your entire business has always been inside of technology but not vice-versa. History not only repeats but it rhymes, get with times in-order to shine.... Or write yourself into a corner, and that will be the end of your story. Again, thanks for noticing Lisa, ciao ✌️

Can't wait until you are replaced by a robot.

Someone has made assumptions about what's going on and has written a rant based on their assumptions lmao. Where does the assertion that the majority of writers are overpaid? Like separate from the AI stuff which is a whole different can of worms, it's just kind of funny that every single property you mentioned in the first paragraph is a large blockbuster-type movie with a large part of the plotting and structure determined with shareholder in mind. You recognize a significant part of the problem, you've just somehow put the greed at the feet of the working writers and not the dude who takes a 255 mil yearly salary. And idk if you've actually taken a look at what the AI systems put out but if you think big corps using AI in "writer's rooms" is gonna make the writing Better? You're tripping lol. AIs in writer rooms will continue to push mainstream pop culture writing in the direction you would hate, all for bottom line. (And that's by design btw, the models are trained to be statistical representations of the training data incredibly loosely speaking, which is generally way lower common denominator than writers rooms). I'm not about to engage in the amount of discourse with you required to talk you down from your hard-headed perspective on this, but the way this is missing the forest for the trees (eg blaming the writers for the corporate push to dumb down the pop message to reach the widest audience) I felt like I should at least leave the comment.

(I mentioned the question about writers being overpaid but never actually expanded, but like, if a dude who wrote the bear, a widely watched and acclaimed tv show, has to do that living in an apartment with no heat I just have such a hard time projecting wealth on the majority of writers lol. Anyways have a nice life there's very little chance I reply I just had to counter-word-spew lmao, you just have a lot of the symptoms understood but stopped too early in the command chain, and with the AI stuff I just strongly disagree with the idea that the tech is gonna be at the level where it'll actually be like many-job-replacing quality. Esp since the openAI guys see another technical advancement as required for the next set of improvements, instead of just throwing more data at it. But the corps will definitely try to replace anyways.)

You are talking about your hatred of modern superhero content, not screenwriting as a business.

I can't wait until you're replaced by a robot.

Define woke.🖕🤡

AI steals concepts from human writers.

@@TronSAHeroXYZ And so do humans. Human writers have a bulk of content that they consider influential to themselves and it shapes their style and content.

????

Boo hoo go cry about it

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Homogeneity has diminishing returns.