CRAIG'S OPINION ON FSG AS OWNERS OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB! Do You Agree With Him?

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7 күн бұрын

Craig Houlden debates the pros and cons of FSG's time as Liverpool owners, the mistakes they've made in the past and what they can do moving forward to ensure the club is going in the right direction
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@bfethree4060
@bfethree4060 5 күн бұрын
Bill Simmons is a popular media personality and huge Boston fan in the US. He’s given up on the Red Sox until FSG cares about winning again. This guy’s nickname is literally “the Sports Guy” and FSG killed his fandom of one of his favorite teams. It says all you need to know about them.
@deidredrakeBEST
@deidredrakeBEST 5 күн бұрын
I find the Red Sox fans (who complains about FSG) ultimately ungrateful and that they have a very short memory as the team has won 4 World Series titles since FSG bought the club. Before they had not won in 86 years, 86 years!!!
@scottengerson1130
@scottengerson1130 4 күн бұрын
Both of these opinions are kinda right... Biston fans shoukd be more appreciative. But... they have either won the World Series or they have stunk. They have not built anything lasting and sustainable. Rode the tails of Big Pappi and Pedro Martinez... like we rode the tails of Salah and VVD and Allisson. When the Res Sox run ended, it crashed. That's our fear here.
@Fobbie498
@Fobbie498 4 күн бұрын
@@deidredrakeBESTbalanced reply. Well said.
@johnroberts8831
@johnroberts8831 4 күн бұрын
Best run club. Financial sustainable. Spending the money in the transfer window isn’t a competition. Rules are not there to be broken. LFC & FSG scouting the players and choosing who’s a good fit. Players/Managers wanting too much money should not be signed. To prove their worth and signing players of a younger age is more important. Contract negotiations are much easier with a younger player than players 26+ wanting a decent final contact when they are in their prime age. But you have to speak with all parties to see who’s greedy and who actually wants to play for LFC and give passion. Bellingham was a big miss, but avoided a bullet with Caceido. Time to support the changes and back who FSG have put in charge: Edwards, Richards and Slot. Have to praise them for that and for sure money will be spent with a new project in mind.
@gazfunk
@gazfunk 4 күн бұрын
We finished 3rd. Where did Chelsea finish? They are running a business and thankfully we are financially stable. Unless you go for dodgy oil money that’s how it’s going to be. We have to live within our means.
@adrianmartin5863
@adrianmartin5863 5 күн бұрын
I’ve never trusted FSG and I don’t think they have are club interest at heart
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu 5 күн бұрын
FSG are neither the best owners nor the worst. We can talk until the cows come home about all of the bad things they’ve done, but, to their credit, they’re inarguably not as bad as the Glazers, Boehly and the owners of City. Thankfully, they’ve brought Edwards back to the club, which will hopefully improve our luck in the transfer market. We were a shambles with Klopp and Schmadke as our sporting directors.
@Fobbie498
@Fobbie498 4 күн бұрын
You know that’s probably where the truth lays.
@graemebucknall2331
@graemebucknall2331 4 күн бұрын
We only got Jorge as the others couldn’t confirm if they were selling or not and klopp was thinking about leaving .. But transfers under klopp haven’t failed Owners let him down . He still used the data approach but also his scouts and his eyes Keita , ox were under Edward s as SD As was minamino . Then we had Kabak and co under edwards too so he’s just exactly been 100% perfect z He’s not going to be the messiah and if you listen to slot It’s Hughes and the other senior staff that are looking at players coming in It’s not Edwards job anymore
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu 4 күн бұрын
@@graemebucknall2331 Klopp's signings have mostly been poor except for McAllister. Nunez hasn't worked out, nor did Carvalho, Ramsey, Gakpo - whom Klopp played out of position - Szoboszlai and Gravenberch. Endo was an astute bit of business to the German's credit.
@graemebucknall2331
@graemebucknall2331 4 күн бұрын
@@AP-di6gu so which because Nunez will come good just taken 12 months longer possibly than I was expecting. Diaz was the best player in Portugal when we signed him Ward who has connections in that league sorted that deal , Gapko again was ward. And Ward was also the one that got everything in place for Nunez, and was still involved even when he left in a certain capacity for last summers transfers . Dom, gravenberch , Mac . All Jorge did with Gordon was finalise the deals . But klopp was told he was getting Jude Klopp spent a lot of time making sure Jude was interested and was willing to come . FSG then said no even though they knew the price .. Jude’s representatives were in Anfield before the bid was made only for FSG to tell Klopp No Which was the start of the downward spiral for klopp . He stayed on to rebuild the side which he’s done . Needs a few more editions . Klopp still used data to get the players he wanted . But finishing 3rd with a new midfield Nunez has improved 31 G&A in all comps isn’t a bad return but his missed chances clear knew that is 8-9 more goals he would have got . I think personally Slot will build his frontline around getting the best out of Nunez . Not relying on a 32 yr old salah who will leave either this summer or next on a free
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu 4 күн бұрын
@@graemebucknall2331 Of course, Edwards has made mistakes, but he's got his signings right more than he's gotten them wrong. Minamino was a Klopp signing. Klopp underlined Konate as a player he wanted to bring in. That deal could not be done in January, therefore the club's hands were tied and they therefore brought in two cheaper options so that they could afford Konate in the summer of 2021. I never said ME will be the Messiah. ME brought Hughes to the club as he operates in the same way that the former does, therefore ME is effectively running Liverpool from top-to-bottom.
@jasonpeter4491
@jasonpeter4491 5 күн бұрын
Craig bro isn’t the plus column enough🤷🏼‍♂️ The situation with the premier league at the moment ffp var etc maybe a super league isn’t such a crazy idea..fsg have done wonders for lfc why would they invest if others are cheating
@Fobbie498
@Fobbie498 4 күн бұрын
Delighted you did segment highlighting your overall disdain for the FSG stewardship. It’s been well documented on your channel. I have no problem with that. If fact i embrace diverse opinions. Here’s my question and point. If you would like FSG out as they just didn’t do their job properly. Who would be your top replacement owners? I would genuinely be interested in what options out there would suit your ambition for the club as a Liverpool fan.
@MrNullifier
@MrNullifier 5 күн бұрын
I just think a video like this should be for after the transfer window has closed and we only made one signing.
@Fobbie498
@Fobbie498 4 күн бұрын
💯 common sense mate
@rpa_will
@rpa_will 5 күн бұрын
The owner is operating FSG as a business, prioritizing profits over the best interests of the club. They don't want to invest in the team's depth. With a few injuries, we are always out of title contention. It's like John W. Henry is auditioning for the role of "Cheapskate of the Year." He thinks titles can be won with a coupon book 😅
@graemebucknall2331
@graemebucknall2331 5 күн бұрын
FSG spend what the club makes .. They pay decent wages but high bonuses based on success. They don’t take any money out of the club . I’m not FSG’s biggest fan because I see had they used their own money for the stadium build . Klopp wouldn’t of been left short
@conorward6610
@conorward6610 5 күн бұрын
​@graemebucknall2331 No they don't! Look at transfer spend after we won the champions league and premier league and that's why we went backwards and ended up relying on 9 academy players. Do that next season with this nobody coach and watch us finish midtable.
@graemebucknall2331
@graemebucknall2331 4 күн бұрын
@@conorward6610 go look up what they to what they spend on wages . 63% of money coming in 19/20 That’s increased to 73% just wages . They made pre-tax profit of -£9m 22/23 season . Then you have stadium costs Shareholders still get a paid out . When klopp signed Gapko with £9m up front there was no more funds available . Liverpool is self sustaining . So the owners take no money out like the glaziers do . But they don’t put money into the club neither . In the quad year the club made £7.5m profit after wages , transfers fees , stadium costs ..
@conorward6610
@conorward6610 4 күн бұрын
@graemebucknall2331 Go look how much they spent on the Penguins and what we got for transfers! You're telling me a club this size could only afford Kabak and Davis? A club this size has to sell before they buy! We won the title and have a look at what we got for winning that and then go have a look at what we brought in. How is it Aston Villa and West Ham can outspend us and how can Arsenal, who wasn't even in the Champions League, for a while. Explain to me please how these clubs with no champions league title or Premier league title in the past 10 years can outspend us? So either FSG are fiddling the books to make us look cheap or them clubs I mentioned are cheating and my bet would lie with FSG. Look at the Liverpool news articles on how we couldn't afford such a player but then they go spend 900 million on the penguins and Klopp was left to use 9 academy players last season. FSG are a joke of owners and anyone who backs them cowboys, are either not a real Liverpool fan or football fan.
@stevenm9067
@stevenm9067 4 күн бұрын
Bought for 300 million and now worth 3.9 billion. That is a good return for 14 years and 3.6 billion has not been put into the stadium.
@user-cd4fj2sl7m
@user-cd4fj2sl7m 3 күн бұрын
I'll never forgive them for the Bellingham debacle ........
@Chisky001
@Chisky001 4 күн бұрын
The rebuild was for the midfield and 4 midfielders were signed, so you want them to spend like 600mil for the midfield rebuild so that you would be satisfied??? What a 🤡 All these talks about FSG selling Coutinho to sign VVD is very lazy cos VVD was already signed before Coutinho was sold, and with or without Coutinho money, the club would have still sign Alisson and Fabinho cos that was a Gk and DM was needed then, and they didn't have sell anyone to sign Nunez, Gakpo, Diaz or the midfield rebuild last summer, having a good net spend or not spending reckless doesn't mean they're not serious
@markhicks9407
@markhicks9407 5 күн бұрын
Totally agree with everything you're saying, Craig, even the wrexham owners are more interested in football games. Yes, they are there to make money, too, but at least they turn up to games. Slot will be made to make miracles like klopp did! Not good enough fsg! Back the manager or sell up to someone that will !
@deidredrakeBEST
@deidredrakeBEST 4 күн бұрын
I don't know where to start, there is so much I want to comment on this clip. It would be a whole novel, so I'll just take two things from it and address it to all who complains about FSG. 1. I find it strange that two individuals like Michael Edwards and Julian Ward wants to come back if FSG are so bad. I wouldn't want to work for an employer that didn't back me, why would I. That Richard Hughes, a friend of Edwards, wants to work for them. That Arne Slot doesn't seem to be bother to work for them. He must have heard all the "warnings" about them. 2. Who hired Klopp and wanted to keep him? Who trusted him even the seasons that didn't go well. Klopp who, if they didn't back him, could have left much earlier, but didn't. Why stay and punish one self, when he could have gone to a number of clubs and be "properly" backed financially. A final thought: Yes, the Super-League was a missjudgement - but how many of the other owners appologized to their fans, genuine or not. John Henry at least cared enough to make an appology compared to the others.
@paulsummerfield6357
@paulsummerfield6357 5 күн бұрын
💯Agreed mate, they are the same as the Glazers at you know where, who ONLY spend when they need UCL. We were outside the top 4 and hey presto they overhauled the midfield-which was well overdue. Anyone with any ambition would try and improve the squad. You mentioned 'Generational talents like Bellingham etc' We will never, see one of them under their custodial ship. They are owners and like the players are temporary. Ourselves 'The fans' have our team for LIFE and always will do.
@deidredrakeBEST
@deidredrakeBEST 4 күн бұрын
You think they are like the Glazers!? Without Jim Ratcliffe’ money they would not survive and look at the state of Old Trafford - there is money well spent.
@Inglese001
@Inglese001 5 күн бұрын
I’m disappointed that they have no plans to redevelop the SKD stand. If they wanted, they could buy up the houses behind and demolish them. Great ground, but as 6 times European Champions, we should have a capacity of over 70 000.
@Joe-yy1lv
@Joe-yy1lv 5 күн бұрын
They can’t extend it any further apparently it’s maxed
@Mattydon40
@Mattydon40 5 күн бұрын
Won’t never happen Liverpool fc and Liverpool council got too much grief for the main stand expansion with buying the houses ynwa
@derekmain9914
@derekmain9914 5 күн бұрын
Yeh let’s just dump people out of perfectly good houses so you can get more people to watch the reds , behave yourself how would you feel if you were compulsory purchased and lobbed out on the street
@Inglese001
@Inglese001 5 күн бұрын
@@derekmain9914 maybe you should behave yourself. No-one is dumping anyone out of their home. If Liverpool made an offer they could always say no. Anyway, FSG have no interest.
@robbiepyke3656
@robbiepyke3656 5 күн бұрын
My house backs on to the SKD stand. I don't see why me and my family should give up our home just so they can extend the ground .
@themaharaniscloset
@themaharaniscloset 4 күн бұрын
Craigs beginning to sound like a Bratt. Stop whining. We have the benchmark for the most self sustainable football club. If we were offered this 20 years ago we would have bit their hand off as opposed to where things were heading. One lesson learned since they first started is that they don't do impulse buys anymore. Where we are now is because of what they have done 5+ years ago. These Fans only see the small picture and want instant superficial gratification, without consequence. They rather see 80 million spent on a total flop than 15 million on a player who performs because they judge players by how much they cost instead of their ability, and if they flop, the fans don't care, they just expect the club to go out and spend again. Its purely superficial. Spending does not ensure anything. Chelsea have proven it. So why follow that model. You want to be as happy as a Chelsea fan? This a matter of you don't know or appreciate what you have.
@deidredrakeBEST
@deidredrakeBEST 4 күн бұрын
Excellent comment 👍
@tongo6870
@tongo6870 4 күн бұрын
You always moan about them and they always come through in the end with the transfers. They haven't let the club get into trouble like a lot of other clubs. I don't think they are bad owners, might not be the best but they are not bad.
@michaelwebb540
@michaelwebb540 5 күн бұрын
We are just in a investment fund for the elite. Need Salah to go.Not on a free next season.They spent nothing for 2 yrs
@dogfish2001
@dogfish2001 5 күн бұрын
I think they see how much it would cost to keep in touch with City & they go no it's gonna cost to much, we'll just keep the club ticking along and see what happens, it's more of a business now, a shame really as we could give a good shout at the title with an injection of cash to overhaul the squad. But we'll probably just get a couple of £30-£40m players in and maybe a cheap £15m back up.
@steverichards7623
@steverichards7623 4 күн бұрын
Transfer fees, for a new Coach that hasnt even had a training session. Not the smartest move, hey Craig. If you want to look at recent spending, you can add Klopp's philosophy about loyalty to the players he had: Heno, Gini, Fab..... Then generational talent, it just about happens that we get out bid by REAL MADRID (Touchimeni and Jude).
@1888lynch
@1888lynch 3 күн бұрын
its hard t take but we were not outbid for Touchimeni and Jude they choose madrid
@steverichards7623
@steverichards7623 3 күн бұрын
@@1888lynch Yep, but it's the same outcome, we can't compete with Real. As you say Real dont even have to offer most money.
@chillguy7985
@chillguy7985 4 күн бұрын
Is Van De Berg coming back from loan anytime soon?
@steverichards7623
@steverichards7623 4 күн бұрын
Get over the Super League argument, that falls on EVERY owner.....move on.
@peterkavanagh3422
@peterkavanagh3422 5 күн бұрын
If not have good transfer window fsg can get out enough is enough
@Get_YT_Views.799
@Get_YT_Views.799 5 күн бұрын
I'm not crying; there's just something in my eye.
@billfrohberg3206
@billfrohberg3206 5 күн бұрын
FSG owns Pittsburgh Penguins. They bought out Mario Lemieux who won 5 Stanley Cups as a player and owner. Gave him management job after the sale then kicked him to the curb. That's the kind of owners they are. Screw everyone, and watch the bottom line.
@MohammedSuarez-ou8wp
@MohammedSuarez-ou8wp 4 күн бұрын
Won the champions leauge in 2019 and instead of giving klopp the cash to start a dynasty they brought him in minamino and van de berg...let that sink in
@deanboucher2067
@deanboucher2067 5 күн бұрын
Im undecided on our owners
@trevarrirademeyer5591
@trevarrirademeyer5591 5 күн бұрын
Really unfair towards the club, the team and to the supporters....It's time for FSG to pull up their socks...
@TanyaConnor-mj9br
@TanyaConnor-mj9br 5 күн бұрын
Does Chelsea have an A.B & C team ? With the players they've signed have they breached FFP ?
@Chip_in
@Chip_in 3 күн бұрын
Yank owners should never be in the premier league. FSG out ⛳
@LiverpolAreTheGoat
@LiverpolAreTheGoat 5 күн бұрын
X
@MichaelHartigan-qb8qo
@MichaelHartigan-qb8qo 5 күн бұрын
Liverpool need good owner and back the coach and can go in the summer and January bet FSG NEED GO OUT FOR LIVERPOOL PLZ ONT LIKE FSG
@BOOGERBOY1
@BOOGERBOY1 5 күн бұрын
FSG need to sell up we need owners who will splash the cash ,it's plain and simple
@justinohara6940
@justinohara6940 5 күн бұрын
John simply can not or will not compete in the transfer market because he's to tight to spend the money... He wants it for himself. YNWA.
@jasonpellegrini7148
@jasonpellegrini7148 5 күн бұрын
Cant stand FSG
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