Thank you so much for having us, Craig! It was a joy to have these chats with you.

"It was all one note. Because I like one note, because Meshuggah do it and sounds fucking great" - my favorite quote encapsulating my love for this music

Criminally underrated band. Browne’s playing completely changed how I approach guitar

This is such a great conversation about exactly how I am feeling right now. The bit about the music industry, recording bands, and just TRYING to do music for a living is nearly soul crushing and you barely scrape by to pay rent some months. I won’t stop because I’m mentally insane but this shit is harder then anyone thinks.

One of the best venting sessions in podcast history

Class. Looking forward to this

Andy is spot on about the toxic positivity and needing to play along with all that....even in local local scenes you can't be the person to "complain" or call out negative shit and people.....all these super "punk" people who are all playing along...man. I'm in London, Canada and we just got a UNESCO designation as an international city of music - it's used for branding shows and to build tourism, in reality there are fewer local venues and studios than ever and nobody is getting paid what they're worth.

Mah boissss! Love Monuments. Can't wait to hear more coming from them. The last single Nefarious is a fckn banger!!

John throwing Thrice onto his and Andy's already killer dream festival lineup made me audibly cheer

Blew my mind about Fell Silent splitting into TesseracT and Monuments

FUCK YESSSS!! Been waiting for this band to get recognized! Love you all

These boys are lucky to be at this level. They are even luckier to have successful side hustles. This is the hardest shit to achieve. You gotta want it and I'm glad to see the dudes keeping it real.

new Downbeat episode makes a shitty day better every time.

To the conversation at 25:40 about video chats, video calls interviews and writing sessions.... it reminded me at NAMM this past year, this company call Realtime Audio made a network device/controller (and corresponding software to go with it) that was made specifically for having band practices and jam sessions over video calls with (to my eye and ears) ZERO delay/latency. It had a live video call with 4 other people in different locations while you were able to sit down and jam with them. I recommend that for Monuments to use for writing sessions and also for podcast interviews! Hands down, one of the most incredible things I saw at NAMM. As a software programmer, I asked every question I could about how it worked. 😂

The fact that browne mentioned ion dissonance 👏🏼👏🏼

Andyyyy and Browne, this is unexpected but very very welcome, hell yes!

so glad you had these guys on, massive fan

this was oddly more cathartic than I figured it would be. the musician life is one of much frustration for all of us it seems.

Thank you Craig, John, and Andy for pushing through the BS. You guys inspire me so much and your music makes such an impact. You all seem like fantastic humans and keep being true to your self.

Awesome episode, some genuine issues and struggles highlighted, especially for a band as sick as monuments

Another awesome episode.Thank you for shedding some light on mental health and how hard the music industry can be. I myself struggle sometimes with mental health issues and am also a musician so nothing but love and respect. :)

3:03 I fucking love you Craig please never change😂

This conversation was a conversation i’ve wanted to hear and have with people for so long. Nice one

Such a great episode. Well done guys! Mad praise for the topics

Great episode Craig!! This has been of my favourites 👍

loved this one!

What a great converstation. Such an awesome episode. ❤

Absolutely love this episode! Have experienced all these feelings and more!

Love how real this was. Thank you all!

Loved listening to this. Big fan of Monuments since 2011. Andy is an awesome addition! Such a unique vocalist. Brown and the boys crushing it as usual.

This podcast is absolutely amazing! So glad youtube pushed you onto my iphone today. Subbed!

This was fantastic, I learned some things in here

Andy is a beast of a singer, the chat he had with Finn was a good one as well. Looking forward to this

Awesome interview. Browne and Steele's guitar playing. Look forward to checking the new stuff out.

Great vid and way to talk about vulnerable topics, this is what the ppl like to hear. As a musician as my first trade that eventually decided to become an Aviation mechanic it's truly disheartening to hear about the financial side of being a touring professional musician that makes a living off the music they've created. The fine details in what y'all discussed is a true eye opener for those who will come after you or ones who are interested right now. Somethings gotta give, otherwise there won't be much motivation to actually pursue a music career. Not sure how a shift can happen but possibly alot of bands need to get together and try and figure a way they can get their power back as they once had pre 2000s. By coming together, openly speaking about these undercuts by venues labels & corporations. We need change

Everyone needs to give The Hidden Words by Fellsilent a listen. Absolutely incredible album and band. Would love a one off MK hometown show.

Very interesting and thoughtful conversation. Hadn’t realized how much overlap there is doing a band and starting a business.

Yaaay, it's the lads!

This was such a good podcast and i can feel all of you, even when im not working in the music industry. But just hearing what you all said about your current situation is sad, honestly.. but it's because of people like you, that the music genre as it is, is still present! (Hopefully it also will in the future)

This is going to be juiiiicy

I was introduced to this beautiful band when they opened for Jinjer last year. My god, theyre all fucking mental live. Thanks for coming to our humble city of winnipeg, canada 💗🤟

One of the best shows I saw was Monuments, Animals as Leaders, and Devin Townsend. So very good.

great fuckin podcast again Craig, love the Monu dudes

Also with the way hyperlinks work today, I’m surprised when it comes to online ticket sales, that it’s not easier to trace exactly which band is selling each show more or less and adjust percentages to that scales.

John speaks the truth. Their merch was the only merch I've ever bought from a band that fit correctly lmao

It is not just musicians that put everything they have into a job and get very little back in terms of money to live, quality of life, security etc. That is not to lessen the struggle of the full time musician in this day and age but almost across the board there is the same story for the "working person". I spend 6 years in college learning maths and doing physics and I am 13 years into my career in physics and I am still living basically paycheck to pay check. I say thiis while music is my hobby, my sanity, creating it is what gets me through the nights after a 8-10 hour work day. But every working person is struggling to get by. I grew up in bands with my best friends, touring, recording all of that.. I went to school to get a "real" career so to speak, because I was terrified of the instability I knew would exist if I tried to keep doing music.. All my friends continued down the music path, they even had a lot of success. And now I am.. basically in the same position as them except they have been doing what they are truly passionate about and I really regret my decisions largely because I am almost no better off than I lot of them at 40 years old.

Being thanked in the fell silent album is still my greatest life achievement 😂

I was thinking "its called eisgesis " Then he said it ,and it tripped me out haha.

FYI John isn't part of riff hard anymore. He's doing his own thing now.

I guess that meeting was about craig joining zildjian

I love Craig and Monuments

Ayyyyyy

Sign me up to their dream festival, some sick as fuck bands chosen.

Loved this one. Not only are Monuments incredible, John Browne has Thrice as part of his super fest. God tier.

C’monnn youtube algorithm, do your thing for this band now.

To go along with Andy, Dwellings have a new album out TODAY definitely check it out

Big Big Browne Fan,, One of Modern Day Guitar Heros.

wake up honey new downbeat episode just dropped

Man, the whole discussion about the economical side of touring is disheartening to say the least

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU GUYS FIREWALK IN ATL!!!!

Fuuuucccckkkk yeeeesssss!!!!

Love these guys. Absolute masters of their craft. When Andy said " We trained for a job that doesn't really exist anymore" I'm not in the music industry. But that hit harder then it should have.

I'm kinda sad Frank from My Chemical Romance didn't work out, bc they're my fav band of all time. Kinda sucks that ls dunes Management or Franks is like that. Frank is such a sweet, wholesome, funny insipartional person. Maybe some other day :(

Anyone want to buy the original fell silent demo ,got 2

7:45 - holy shit, a Viatrophy shout :o

Is the out of time part they talked about the riff starting at 1:57 in Somnus?

Callous Daoboys next!

Are you the guy that fills in on the daily shows in the states.?

Where’s this big drummer news then sunshine?

ALL of this is true.

No Mike maylan?

is distrokid a good alternative to record labels?

Johns mannerisms and accent remind me of greekgodx back in the day

When Mike first left Monuments, Swanny asked me if i knew of any good UK drummers that could replace him, Reynolds you were my first suggestion

Ai ain’t about to have Browne’s right hand.

So weird seeing Andrew Garfield in a metal band.

Really enjoy your interviews, I’d love to see Loathe or Static Dress at your table in the future 🥂

🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍

I thought you were David Beckham

It’s sucks cause at the end of the day you may be creating art but it’s still a job. You can have the greatest job in the world and you’re not gonna shit rainbows every day. Having a complaint about real shit day to day. They’re so right about labels and changes in society pulling all the funding from bands. 1 stream equates to penny being split 100 times and you 17 of those per streams. Meaning you’re only getting a penny for every 9 streams.

Andy shouting out dwellings is so sick!!!

Time to get Aaron Kitcher mate (if his mum will let him leave his room).

you're longing me out bro...

Love the pod and Craig's a ledge but f'sure scrap the Dream Festival segment bro. Like one of those dead ass Rock sound interviews..

That Quasimodo posture Ol’mates got 😂

Makes me so sad to hear how little of the money you guys are seeing. The Artist deserves to be getting the biggest cut

My dream rock festival would include: HEADLINER: Allen Holdsworth - Radiohead - Tool - Kyuss - Television - Talk Talk - Haken - Primus - Porcupine Tree - Alice In Chains (with Layne) - TesseracT - Monuments - Meshuggah - hubris. - ISIS - Animals as Leaders - Sonar - Polyphia (2018 onwards) - Yes (1972 line up). - Led Zeppelin (1979) - Gentle Giant - Mahavishnu Orchestra - Khan - Lucid Planet - Karmanjakah - Anekdoten - Car Bomb - Means End - The Safety Fire - RXYZYXR - Intronaut - The Resonance Project - Tigran Hamasyan - Outrun the Sunlight - Cog - Soundgarden - Elder - Karnivool - The Ocean Collective - Vildhjarta - King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard - Wheel - Vulkan - Blotted Science - Oddland

Ooof, that Riffhard comment has not aged well.. :|

Bro I can't stand My chemical romance