In this video I talk about the differences between gross and net capacity as it pertains to cranes. I also discuss how to calculate the deductions for rigging, jib, etc..
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@electroniccheeks2 жыл бұрын
As a truck driver, I had feeling this is what you were going to say. I just started in the crane business. Supporting a crane.
@jameswheeler3446 күн бұрын
Preciate all the info. Have to re-cert tomorrow and brushing up on the basics. You would make a great trainer
@TasteOfWestTexas3 жыл бұрын
This was perfect! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Truly means a lot!!
@lakesideranch5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy! Excellent tutorial and very well explained examples. Much respect for your professional knowledge and your experience. These teaching videos are packed with info and you excel at getting your points across. The whiteboard presentations are the mark of a BOSS who knows his industry and equipment. Work safe, hope your weekend is going well! Doug@ the "ranch"
@isaacshelton12902 ай бұрын
Good video. Straight to the point
@cpt11903 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info and going into detail.🙏🏽
@megsonkc5 жыл бұрын
Thank Jimmy I run a Hiab and your videos have been very helpful and reinforced what I have been tort. You use good plain examples. Keep then coming
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching the videos! Glad they are helpful. 🙂
@mrbenttley Жыл бұрын
At 6:40 you say 1# per ft. I was taught 10# per foot. Looks like you measured boom length for weight. They told me to measure tip of boom to ground. -nccco2019 Very interesting. Great video amigo
@troymeredith95284 жыл бұрын
Good job mate,I am actually learning all my load charts in training this week ,there is a lot to it ,theory exams tomorrow and practical on Friday .
@waltermattson55665 жыл бұрын
You did a great job explaining this. Have a nice Sunday.
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hope you have a nice Sunday as well. 🙂
@mode1charlie1705 жыл бұрын
I never came across the deduction for parts of line not used, like you said it is crane specific. We deduct all of the line parts for the net capacity. Usually a small number (in the order of a few hundred pounds) when compared to a lift weighing thousands of pounds. Also the weight of any below-the-hook lifting device ie spreader beam etc must be considered. This would be included in your rigging deduction though.......reading the load cart notes is a great piece of advice! Great video!
@kengamble85955 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
@keyjam9 Жыл бұрын
Hello jim. I agree with the stowed jib, erected jib etc deductions from gross capacity. As stated in crane charts and notes. However i have allways considered headache ball, hook block, rigging and spredder bars etc to be part of the load. Added to the load rather than deducted from the gross capacity. You get a completely different calculation of % of capacity. I humbly sugest you look into this. I know from experience of 44 years that this is a commonly misunderstood concept in lift plans. Kelly.
@bryanmcgilli6113 жыл бұрын
Awsome thanks simple instructions all I need
@BillyLapTop5 жыл бұрын
Very informative, Thank you.
@ronbriggs69055 жыл бұрын
I have never been really good at math but was able to follow along and learn. Thanks
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for following along and watching! 🙂
@_Eye_Of_Ry4 жыл бұрын
I start crane school on the 23rd or this month. This info helped me a lot. Getting out the semi truck 😎 thanks man
@hurt1704 Жыл бұрын
Was you able to find a job after? Was it worth going to?
@brucem41052 жыл бұрын
i finished crane school LAST November and well almost a year later I finally have my 1st job, I LOOOOOVE this video its an amazing refresher, now i just gotta be slow, steady and easy on the controls, and just get better each day.
@hurt1704 Жыл бұрын
If you don’t mind me asking, how hard was crane school and where did you go? I’m looking at going to crane school and figuring out if it’s worth it/find a job after/how difficult the math is, etc.
@brucem4105 Жыл бұрын
School was 4 weeks in Colorado. Just Google nccco test sites.
@vinnygonsalves3436 Жыл бұрын
Great Video!!!🤙🏾🤙🏾
@big_country87344 жыл бұрын
Your do8ng great keep.it up I take cco test this weekend
@richardsavaglio6615 жыл бұрын
Excellent video brother!!!!! Every crane operator should carry a cheap little calculator with BIG buttons in the cab with them at all times. They are or will soon be on sale too right now for the back to school specials. Our phones have a calculator in them but would you rather drop a cheap calculator or your phone? Trust me,,,,,you will drop them too,,, from the cab,,,,, most phone screens will NOT survive that fall,,,,, Stay safe out there guys!
@tonytorres16243 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir , you were very helpful.
@kwabenaagyeisarpong64264 ай бұрын
Thanks sir I really appreciate
@ezekielerhieyovwe5033 жыл бұрын
Great video Can you do a video on how to use the jib load chart when making a pick from the jib
@barryhansen68545 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial 65yrs old and still learning thanks Jimmy.
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Barry! Hope all is well down your way. Many thanks for watching! 🙂
@barryhansen68545 жыл бұрын
@@ToTheTopCrane been raining for the last 4 days but all is well hope you are handling the heat you are getting?
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
@@barryhansen6854 we just got back from Florida this morning. I think we missed the worst of the heat up here.
@barryhansen68545 жыл бұрын
@@ToTheTopCrane hope you had a great time with family, was disney up too expects
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
@@barryhansen6854 we had a good time. We went to Universal Studios and Kennedy Space Center. Lots and lots of walking. Also, lots of driving. Hence the reason I look tired in the video. I drove straight through from Florida to home yesterday and today. 22 hours of driving is now my new record. Lol
@ghulabkhan7622 жыл бұрын
Good jobs
@Lazlolife2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir !
@edirinighomrore47623 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the math.can you do a video on how to calculate slind capabilities for rigging.
@Mohammed-zu4uk2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for explaining. What is rules to calculator fatigue of jib crane?
@villagevaliant2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a very old video & Someone May have asked but do you mind specifying a few cranes that you know or have experienced that you DO in fact have to calculate for unused parts of line ? Or types of work/ Safety officials that require such practice ? I love your comprehensive clarity on the specifics It’ll be a great asset to my understanding if I had that insight
@kristoffMR5 жыл бұрын
Great topic!
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
I can't take credit for the idea of the topic. I wish I could remember who recommended that I talk about it. Many thanks for watching! 🙂
@barrysimmons47245 жыл бұрын
Keep on Jimmy, you'll have all a yer viewers here ready to NCCO test here directly. (( :
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome if all the viewers passed the NCCO test because of my videos. Lol. Many thanks for watching! 🙂
@jonschneck45595 жыл бұрын
@@ToTheTopCrane I have often thought that if you, ron pratt, lets dig 18, and brandon (and many others) got together with Mike Row works and put together an online university of the trades. it could show that working with your hands is fun, cool and exciting. we need to get more young people to take up building things.
@lesterntomson49885 жыл бұрын
I'm short fat and bald lots of stuff skips right over my head lol. Good info easy to follow. Catch ya in the next one.
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm short, fat and almost bald. So, don't feel bad. Lol. Many thanks for watching! 🙂
@justinwhisenhunt26613 жыл бұрын
That's why you wear hats. So the bill will help catch it.
@kimomichael80473 жыл бұрын
Is there a standard calculation formula for the crane capicty I mean if I know the radius and the main boom length can I figure out how much can a crane lift without the load chart
@inri5144 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the information. I am from Québec Canada and i want to go to school for oparate Crane... They have a psychophisiologic test for selected the best candidat. I wounder if you can make a video of all the basic math and important knowledge so i can practice a bit more before the test. I see you talk about simple calculation like addition and soustraction etc. And more specificly Pi r2. (thank you for this information) But do you have any more specific calculation?? Thank you again, and good job!!
@roblennon40574 жыл бұрын
hey jimmy , long time listener first time caller I've been watching your videos and have definitely been interested in cranes. I see you're in my union. I'm on the east coast as a c branch member of 542. Just wondering how you got your start? Currently i'm studying for my nccco to get my boom truck and rough terrain. and obviously my core. I have learned many things while doing load charts. The more i've done the more comfortable ive gotten with them. i never realized that there's so many deductions with rope and making sure that you have the block correctly reeved and that you arent using too much line as to overload and use as a deduction. is there any hints or tips you could give out ? My grand plans are to get with a crane rental company maxim,amquip, or maybe even thackray. I'm 27 years old and already have my class A . I just have to re certify on a stick 5th wheel truck and i'll be good. have a great weekend your content is really good. especially when using crane terms and seeing them applied in video so i can accurately figure out whats what
@user-sl5tf9jk6k3 ай бұрын
Is the fly jib and boom extensions considered as load handling device and do I have to included it when I want to know the load gross weight
@ElPanda0328 Жыл бұрын
Do you have more videos on this? I operate a Kobelco CK850 III. I’m getting ready to take my written exam and I’m having trouble with the math among other things.
@HughieGT5 жыл бұрын
So your saying usually there’s a 15% of deductions on each lift but the crane is derated 15%, so it’s a wash. Get up on it hand.... 😁 nice video man!
@hazee80892 жыл бұрын
Please make video on Calculating values of : Lifting Gear , Equipment weight of Tools and Plants ? Load on each leg (in Ton) ? SWL of D-SHACKLE , Bow-shackle ?
@BobABong-ut1io5 жыл бұрын
So IF you forgot to add in the extra part line, where would the breakage be on the crane? or would the computer simply say "Not gonna happen" Thanks for another great vid
@BTH-ku9jp5 жыл бұрын
I just renewed my ncco. Where were you last week Jimmy.
@jimharris40135 жыл бұрын
Not to be picky but, in a triangle the horizontal is "A" the vertical is "B" and the angle is "C". So, A square + B square equal C square. On your crane you said the boom was 200' long, the vertical leg or "B" is shorter, or C square minus A square equals B square. (If memory still works on my end) Thank you for a great whiteboard lesson.
@marcus22615 жыл бұрын
Hey jimmy that was a great job explaining it!!! 👌🏽 I have a question...What does the jib do for the crane does it increase its lifting capacity or just extend the boom more?
@Metagross5555 жыл бұрын
A jib will lower capacity as you are putting more weight farther out, which has high leverage.
@marcus22615 жыл бұрын
Oh ok thank you for answering my question really appreciate it!😂
@edwinjrodriguez21833 жыл бұрын
Even if the jib is not erected on the boom, you still need to make deductions for it??
@BrysonSmith825 жыл бұрын
Do you pick up the rigging before the pick to get the weight? I didn’t think of subtracting the jib stowed.
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
Most of the time we know what the rigging weighs beforehand. A stowed jib makes a big difference sometimes. So, it definitely has to be accounted for. It gets missed by lots of people though. So much so, that some jobsites remove the jib completely. Many thanks for watching! 🙂
@timjohnson65023 жыл бұрын
This is good great job, can you go over more questions, I'm in school and I failed this part of testing because I didn't understand can you guide a little more
@hurt1704 Жыл бұрын
Did you end up graduating school? Was it worth going to? I’m looking at going to crane school. Just nervous it will be hard to find a job after and that the math will be too much for me
@ejirobazunu2 жыл бұрын
Are all of these calculations factored into an LMI?
@MegaRiffraff11 ай бұрын
👍🏻
@tommyharrisjr7338 Жыл бұрын
I have a phobia in math, but I need a trade. Crane operator would be idea. I'm gonna do more research. So far so good but that dang math.
@BrysonSmith825 жыл бұрын
What did the old timers use before the on board scales? Did they have ways of knowing they were at capacity?
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
They would feel the crane start to tip.
@BrysonSmith825 жыл бұрын
To The Top Crane so they were literally flying by the seat of their pants.
@cranefan70785 жыл бұрын
We are supposed to understand our charts and be able to do the math and know the weight of our picks and not rely on the computer. Our lmi is an operator aid not a replacement for understanding what we are doing.
@BrysonSmith825 жыл бұрын
Crane Fan I understand that. But I have seen some of jimmy’s videos where the estimated weight was different than the actual. It would seem that without the on board scales and equipment it would be easier to exceed your capacity.
@cranefan70785 жыл бұрын
Agreed. What I’m emphasizing is that as crane operators we need to develop and maintain our skills to make the calculations manually, and not end up like the person that blindly follows their gps into the lake and drowns
@Brent-Nelson682 жыл бұрын
Actually, the weight of unused parts of line should be calculated by boom point elevation and not boom length multiplied by the cable weight per foot.
@kat26415 жыл бұрын
While gross vrs net I am well knowledge on However!! I was not aware of the extra weight limitation... An extra calculations... If I am plated for 80,000 an the rig weighs say 37,000 tare my Net weight would be 43,000 load capacity. If you know the load your hauling an manufacture load capacity say it is 42,500 .. your 500 under right? ""Wrong!!"" Most equipment manufacturer weight is given and dry terms. This is not allowed for the weight of fuel or oil or coolant or grease or mud .. an then we haft to add in the weight of chains and binders. Dot weight master lives to get into my billfold! But I see there more calculations then just gross, tare and net allowed involved and setting up the crane for a lift....That was a great video even for an old fart like me ...Thanks !!
@bimbo26martinez27 Жыл бұрын
Can you do online classes ?
@mohammadaftabansar26572 жыл бұрын
भाई साहब मेरा कहने का मतलब है की बगैर लोड चार्ट देखें एक अनुमान, लगभग चाहे crane कितना भी Tone का हो अगर Lenth,Redius,Angle Load इन चारो मे से अगर कोई एक मालूम हो तो कैसे हम बताएंगे? कोई जरूरी नहीं है की हम हमेशा लोड चार्ट लेकर घूमे कोई भी कभी भी सवाल खड़ा कर सकता हैं मान लीजिए client face interview करना हो लड़का पढ़ा लिखा नहीं हो sin,cos नही मालूम हो तो फिर कैसे वो face करेगा ?
@raylz195 жыл бұрын
Jimmy, pie r round, cornbread r square.
@ottovangogh9477 Жыл бұрын
BAD INFORMATION! . 200 feet of boom is NOT a 200 foot of rope deduction. You MUST use the Range Diagram to find the tip height.
@johnwarren-6495 жыл бұрын
I was good till you got to the algebra LoL
@ToTheTopCrane5 жыл бұрын
Lol! I barely used any algebra. Did you get your AC fixed? Many thanks for watching! 🙂
@johnwarren-6495 жыл бұрын
@@ToTheTopCrane no just spent $2500.00 last night on it but it'll be fixed Monday afternoon everything will be new now
@mymortonisms2 жыл бұрын
Talk slower.. I'm from the west coast... I don't hear that fast.