Crawler Canyon Quick(Re)view: Axial SCX10 Pro

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Ай бұрын

So this is a culmination of sorts, the conclusion (not exactly) of the Build-a-long series of the 10 Pro, the official ghost ride that has to come before paint, and the inevitable head-to-head episodes, of which there will be... several.
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@FaithSaraG Ай бұрын

I'm interested to see this head to head with the VRD.

@Camocrawler2868 Ай бұрын

Looks good doing the thing on the rocks, can't wait to see the side by side showdown with the vrd!

@rccrawlingaddict207 Ай бұрын

I would not trade the selective underdrive for a permanent fixed underdrive. I love the ability to switch to one to one or to 40%. Can't wait to see it up against the VRD!

@GuyOnTwoWheels Ай бұрын

I am the same way

@bouncingnoise Ай бұрын

I can’t wait for the Pro vs Vrd comparison 🤩

@charleshurley8927 Ай бұрын

Here's an idea. Compare them like you plan to, with the pins, then put them on a set of bot so good tires, and see how good either would do without the extra boost

@jimbocreationsbu8203 Ай бұрын

the first pass on the hillside AKA Yella's line looked excellent - no slip no hesitation - she is a side hill queen and underdrive the front diff 33/8 that will also get the top end down

@JohnCammarota Ай бұрын

He looked very stable side hill all in all, can't wait to see the side by side in the future... Nice job driving as always.

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

The sidehill is absolutely glue-like. Just stuck to the ground.

@bouncingnoise Ай бұрын

And sidehilling is definitely the weakest part of a box stock VRD

@timbertime738 Ай бұрын

Awesome! Can't wait to see the VS!

@brianmik5624 Ай бұрын

My pro transmission clicked for 6 months before it finally broke. I replaced it with a creeper t and it smoothed the drive out so much. I run TRX4 shocks on mine and love it.

@davidconaway2830 Ай бұрын

I have both the Pro and VRD. In my limited experience (as a crawling enthusiast) with these two trucks, the VRDs advantage over the Pro is belly clearance/breakover. The Pro's advantage over the VRD is its planted sure-footedness and light weight. I have a fusion pro in the 10-Pro and a Holmes Team Spec 1800 revolver in the VRD and I love both systems. Looking forward to your head-to-head comparison.

@lastcreations8845 Ай бұрын

what is the weight of both ? curious

@davidconaway2830 Ай бұрын

@lastcreations8845 the VRD weighs 5.6lbs while the Pro weighs 5.5lbs....both weights are without a battery. I have heavy brass portal covers on the VRD and medium weight SSD brass on the Pro. Both run the exact same Megalithic tire and Squid SL3D inserts. Hope this helps.

@JohnCammarota Ай бұрын

This makes sense to me. My VRD carbon runs the pro and it is almost unstoppable.. it climbs practically straight vert without a flop.

@SamStevens-vo9xx Ай бұрын

Tires definitely helped with the drive, fuskes woo be good to try

@ShoddyRC Ай бұрын

20% overdrive and dig would have made it better. I don’t need selectable overdrive.

@bouncingnoise Ай бұрын

I think the Pro and the Vrd are so close, that in the end it will be a decision between what you prefer or what you’re looking for, straight axles or portals.

@fuse557 Ай бұрын

I love the Po10 body!

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

You to be in the minority. I very nearly looks the same coming and going, and good from neither.

@fuse557 Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon LoL 😆

@rccrawlingaddict207 Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon I'll take a pro over a goyzer any day!

@HVT03 Ай бұрын

We need to see this guy on the Crawlimpics, the performance surprised me a little bit I really dont like that body, but the one that WDW owns looks amazing to me

@thindigital Ай бұрын

Ey up lads and lasses. I put a fusion 1200 in my Capra with stock tranny, haven't done the math but feels good with plenty of torque and middling wheel speed.

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

Should be about right, the Capra box has (IIRC) a 1.2:1 internal ratio, which is... dumb. All of the reduction is in the portals. I think a Capra is maybe 40:1 final, which is insane for a portal rig.

@JasonLumpkin Ай бұрын

How did you get this to fit, Vader skid?

@thindigital Ай бұрын

@@JasonLumpkin I'm using a printed skid, the model is free on thingiverse. A Vader skid would of course be the proper way, some people shave the link mount.

@Dozern90 Ай бұрын

Love the axles and the servo behind the axle. The rest is parted out and the rails and transmission is binned. Can not recommend buying this over something like a VRD

@JohnCammarota Ай бұрын

Slick rock looked absolutely perfect. Advantage 10 pro.

@TinyTiresRC 29 күн бұрын

I'm really looking forward to seeing the comparison tonight VRD Carbon. Right up until Vanquish announced and released the Carbon kit I had a 10-Pro on a similar ridiculous back-order from horizon you experienced.

@psjoinery6 Ай бұрын

Regarding the panhard conversion, here in UK, I believe some guys use the Element set up.

@user-jh6kp7gn1g Ай бұрын

Nice review 🤟🏿💯

@jasoncouy2075 Ай бұрын

Fortunately you have a switch to go between 40% and 0%. You are not locked in running it one way or the other. Just like dig.

@Driver86421 Ай бұрын

Been waiting for this. There are definitely things about Axial that aggravate me and I'm sure the VRD would be more fun to build, but I'm kind of a straight-axle guy these days and the performance is undeniably there. Yeah, the body is hideous. Looking forward to the head-to-heads before making a decision one way or the other.

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

A straight axle VRD could easily be had-- I'm sure someone would trade you F10 for F10 in a heartbeat.

@Driver86421 Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon Well that's an option I hadn't considered. Hmmm...that may well tip the scales, but I'm still curious to see how this plays out. Thanks!

@JohnCammarota Ай бұрын

Fellas.....

@lastcreations8845 Ай бұрын

Fly weight it ! battery to front mount next to bumper, cut front mount to move FMM forward as much as possible, and swap to the other t case as forward as possible on skid. maybe 1 diff gear to reduce down to 20% ish range. a lb for tcase, dang. ran good

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

Dropping the 10.3 box out of the CJ and replacing it with the fake Creeper T took off a pound, not including the shift/dig servos. I figure the reduction here would be 12oz.

@JohnCammarota Ай бұрын

Undertaker looks like advantage VRD.

@danielrowe4777 Ай бұрын

My Pro is a badass. Took some Tuning but its ready for comp.

@J-GEEZY Ай бұрын

I believe they set it up for portals because soon after the release of the pro axial they came out with portal axels.

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

Not unlikely. But that smacks of cash grab, because the gearbox is definitely a portal-ratio box-- so why not just release two versions? Why is there no 10 Pro portal kit? Ohhhhh, that's right, I keep forgetting-- #justaxialthings

@Bonitacreekrc2 Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon you should make a page #justaxialthings

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

@@Bonitacreekrc2 Axial Engineer One: I have everything from M3x10 through M3x25, so how many screw lengths should we use on the cage? Axial Engineer Two: Yes.

@Bonitacreekrc2 Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon I guess to axials defence, they want as much thread engagement as possible,that might be there reasoning. They probably just don't trust there plastics

@Bonitacreekrc2 Ай бұрын

you should try the dawn dish soap method when you paint it. or maybe red white and blue

@JohnCammarota Ай бұрын

I did that on my creeper. Yellow and blue. It was easy and turned out bad ass.

@Bonitacreekrc2 Ай бұрын

@JohnCammarota I first saw Adam from Cape Crawlers use that method. And him and his son did two bodies,and they were really cool

@Tyrells_Tiny_Trucks Ай бұрын

I'd be really tempted to give it a good amount of OD in the axle gears and then use the OD function more similarly to dig. Very curious about that.

@opivyx 29 күн бұрын

Toss the Axial gearbox and put in a OD-3, gives you 18%O.D. or a creeper t at 30%. Should bring the weight down and a little more forward as well.

@michaellenheiser3157 Ай бұрын

Knowing what you know now, how would you compare an Ecto versus VRD, ZRD or PRO with electronics and wheels/tires being equal.

@geoffathtetemple4152 Ай бұрын

Before you creeper T it kill some underdrive by going 8-33 front and 8-27 rear. Then find out how front underdrive performs. I think you'll be surprised.

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

So you're saying overdrive the rear, underdrive the front, and lock it in 40% on the box? For a fixed 20% UD, but 10% lower FDR. I'll definitely consider it.

@geoffathtetemple4152 Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon it's the availability to shift into the "wrong" configuration. You might find it a helpful tool in certain situations. Plus you have a more friendly rear UD for "normal" conditions. You don't know until you know. 😎

@geoffathtetemple4152 Ай бұрын

"I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested."

@crawlercityrc Ай бұрын

morning gents😊😊

@charleshurley8927 Ай бұрын

it definitly did better than i figured it would. but you did use cheat codes ie; the pins with the inserts

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

That was the same setup that went out on the VRD a few weeks ago, so I figured it would be a more reasonable comparison.

@The_RC_Family Ай бұрын

£519 in the UK 😬 I wonder what difference it would have made today if this had been running the XHX Pin.

@ekpauly Ай бұрын

I jumped and ordered a 10 pro on release, assembled it and felt the same way you described in your videos. Uhg. I tried the brazin scale chassis and still disappointed. Sold it before i even ran it.

@fromfin90 Ай бұрын

in a german store here in europe, the SCX10 Pro costs 469€, i could get a TRX4 Sport kit, with a better body and scale stuff for 417

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

I would put a Sport body on a 10 Pro just to confuse people.

@fromfin90 Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon that would be fun

@JoskMclaren Ай бұрын

Whatever you do, don't mention the VRD. I did eaarlier but I think I got away with it!

@tommyhogye6068 Ай бұрын

Needs - not a axial gearbox and a rock pirates kraken chassis

@michaellenheiser3157 Ай бұрын

In ghost form it’s difficult to tell the front from the back…Is it coming or going?

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

I said to someone today, "the Pro body looks like the bottom half of a hotdog bun." It's funny how ugly it is, it's hilarious that they made a comp body that's not comp legal.

@Bonitacreekrc2 Ай бұрын

@CrawlerCanyon Hopefully it looks better painted and stickers

@Bonitacreekrc2 Ай бұрын

do xhx pins like big overdrive

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

Not yet tested, but absolutely should, as the Comp Pins are great on big OD/UD.

@DHFHades Ай бұрын

the Phoenix box says 6.5% & 33%. at least for the portal version

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

Yeah, but they got the math wrong, from what I understand. If you look up the VFD Twin gearbox kit on Vanquish, it says something along the lines of "standard overdrive 6.5%, selectable overdrive 46%"

@DHFHades Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon damn. they can't do math, they can't get the front shock towers right in the instructions...what can they do?...lol

@me-rn7jx Ай бұрын

I must be the only person left still with 0% overdrive😂 I'm looking to put like what 12% in my 10.3 though now. I've never driven overdrive so am I in for a life changing surprise?

@CrawlerCanyon Ай бұрын

At the least you'll get tighter turning and less chance to "doodlebug" over backwards. I don't really think there's a drawback to 12%.

@me-rn7jx Ай бұрын

@CrawlerCanyon you know what my scx10iii does😂 it does exactly that haha. I'll get some better shocks and some overdrive or underdrive maybe instead of gearing the pinion down.

@me-rn7jx Ай бұрын

@@CrawlerCanyon doodlebug is a good word too👌😂

@Bonitacreekrc2 Ай бұрын

2nd like

@SamStevens-vo9xx Ай бұрын

@Jon-flame74 28 күн бұрын

Magnets affect your tig ark use clamps buddy . Mig is ok with magnets 🧲

@CrawlerCanyon 28 күн бұрын

I don't know what the context for this comment is, as I've never tig welded in my life, and wouldn't really consider what I've done with mig to even be welding.