You got that right! :)

Love the sportsmanship in this sport. You never hear about dirty tricks or bad feelings, but I guess there must be some?

@@mattias5157 They just brush it of

Sure, but we still lost to them...😢

Spinners have been around and used (although VERY RARELY) for decades. It’s nothing new.

@Miffet Blue true, but not in a world championship. Never has such a shot gone viral like this and created such an interest in the game.

Surely revolve, not evolve??!!

@@JamBar1873 ha, you win the internets for today.

@@bobwegner actually, there was a shot made in 1985 by Al Hackner at the Canadian Championships that threw the curling world on its head. No, it wasn’t a spinner but it was a shot that is still talked about and attempted to this day. My point was that Mr. Edin’s shot is not a new curling shot and did not evolve the game. There have been many many legendary curling shots made over the last 100+ years and there will be more to come.

According to plan?

yup definitely was not shot rock for a microsecond.

It won’t go unnoticed. One of the best curlers of all time said it was the best curling shot he’d ever seen. By now every curler and every curling fan has seen that shot. Vic Router called it the shot heard ‘round the world. This will be talked about years from now the same way people still talk about Al Hackner’s double for the tie and then the win at the 1985 Labatt Brier 38 years ago. :)

@@MiffetBlue Of course it won't go unnoticed in the curling community. The skill of this shot will go unnoticed by most sports fans because most sports fans don't know much about curling if anything at all. Just seeing the shot without context doesn't do the shot justice. Only a real curling fan can appreciate exactly what happened here. Everyone understands a great catch or a great goal. Not everyone will understand this.

@@dannycarlow8204 no, not everyone understands a great catch or a great goal. Only fans that are passionate about any given sport will understand why that goal or catch was great. Curling is no different. And to say that most sports fans don’t know much about curling is ridiculous. Maybe in the US where curling isn’t very prevalent but in countries where curling is prevalent (and there are a lot of them) almost all sports fans know a lot about the game. The US sports fans don’t represent all sports fans. The skill involved in this shot will need to be explained to people who know nothing of the sport the same way a great goal, catch or touchdown needs to be explained to people who know nothing of those sports.

@@MiffetBlue Who said US sports fans represent all sports fans? I'm from Canada? Seems you're trying to make an argument where there isn't one. How many curling nations in Africa or South America? Lots of countries, never a curling team representing any of them at the worlds. It looks like any other normal shot in curling, and that's all many people will see. It just has a lot of spin on it. If you don't know it's his last shot and must score 2 and it's impossible to move that rock with any traditional shot, it won't seem that great. If you see a football player or baseball player dive and make a great catch, you don't need context, you just need eyes. If you see a soccer or hockey player go through 4 guys and roast the goalie, you don't need context, you just need eyes. I love curling, but I can't talk to anyone about it because hardly anyone I talk to watches curling. You seem to think curling is much more popular than it really is. People would understand much more if he threw a normal shot, runback triple takeout to score 3. That doesn't take much context to see that it's a good shot. The average sports fan just doesn't watch curling because it is seen as extremely boring. Americans don't dominate the sport so they don't care that much about it. The men had great attendance in Ottawa, the women had very poor attendance in Sweden. Shouldn't they have been packed in the arena in Sweden? They weren't for some reason.

@@dannycarlow8204 I’m not trying to make any kind of argument. You said only curling fans would appreciate this kind of shot. I told you otherwise. You said that everybody knows what a great goal or catch is. I told you otherwise on that one as well. Because you felt the need to write me a book in response to my comment tells me that you’re the one desperately trying to inflict your views on me and not the other way around.

One of?

I was thinking about that a while ago. Hackner's shot was the only thing everyone was talking about the next week at the rink (I was in junior high at the time) and I remember a bunch of us set up stones to try and duplicate it. But, if you go look at it now, with the significantly better ice making that's been developed since 1985, in today's terms it was a good shot but honestly, nothing special. You see that sort of double routinely at the championship level.

this is why he is the best and most recognisable curling skip in the business

Kevin Martin ~> hold my broom Russ Howard ~> hold my stone ‘Nough said.

The goal was to get the yellow stone's path to curl around the front stones to get to the red stone. The angles available in this shot would suggest it was not possible to get both enough curl to get to the red stone and still have enough speed to push it back and score. Normally the person throwing the stone puts a gentle, slow spin on the stone which, if the sweepers do nothing, will cause the stone's path to "Curl" (think hook in bowling). What made this so different was the almost comical amount of spin put on this throw - traditionally one would expect such a high spin to almost counterintuitively cancel any curling effect. Somehow they made it work!

Try it yourself and you will understand

@@eh42 Partially correct. Most people who have thrown this kind of shot for fun know that while the rock will stay straight most of the time, the "super spinner" will move almost sideways once it loses speed (a little after the hog line). What made this shot special was the combination of using this absurd super spinner to get around the guards (which would be impossible using normal rotation) and the gear effect, when the yellow rock came in contact with the red stone.

He's very skilled indeed. That alone tells us how incredible this shot was.

@@andreaseriksson8803 i agree!! Hes been my fave player for many yrs now

They indicate if the thrower has let go of (literally - stopped touching) the stone before the 'hog line'. If the thrower is still touching the handle as the rock crosses the hog line, the lights will go red and the stone is "burned" and must be stopped and taken out of play. Fun fact - when first introduced, the nickel / metal handle used to detect the players hand was unexpectedly slippery and many curlers with a light touch would accidently throw the stones behind them when starting their throw.

@@eh42 Thank you so much for your answer!

While true, they were guaranteed to lose the game if they didn't attempt this. It was the last end and they were down 2. They needed two to score and this was the only way that that would happen.

I’d say zero. He’s that good 😊

Even if you know what you're doing it's a hard shot to make, so certainly a bit of luck.

That’s just John Shuster on another sheet

There are other games going on too

She did it twice ~> not fast

@@MiffetBlue the reason she did it twice, it sounds like the Norwegian vice asked for a second one because the first was too fast. She needs to slow down when the needle is near the rocks.

She was freezing and wanted to get off the ice.

Yup, I didn't get a proper look the first time due to her fastness, so asked her to go a second round👍

@@gautenepstad3481 wow, thanks for confirming! You guys had a great week. Hope to catch you in the arena this week at the slam!

He certainly does

It’s really not

There's no way you get to that red rock and spin it out like that with a conventional throw. And by spinning a rock like that you have no control of it. It really is an insanely good shot.

Normally curlers use the spin on their stone to control the angle of the thrown stone as it reaches the nest. They throw it so it makes about 3-6 spins in all. Edin's stone made about 50 spins, which completely changes the trajectory to the point where you need to learn a completely new throw, which also means you need to sweep and call the stone differently. His throw then used the spin of the thrown stone to spin the target stone out. That was such a novel idea the commentators - including multiple Olympic champions - didn't see how making the hit and getting two points here was *possible*. So his team had come up with a new way to play the game. Then they needed to use that way to have a chance to stay in this world championship game. Even knowing how to make the hit it's very high difficulty because the throw is much harder to control and he didn't have much margin for error. And so he attempted, and successfully made a hit when he needed to do so to stay in the game - in a situation where fellow elite players thought making the throw was impossible.

Because the rock was spinning so fast when it hit the red one it created the gear effect and forced the red one to also spin and move. It’s such a great shot because spinners don’t move like a regular throw making them harder to execute and this man called and made the shot.

This wasn’t a new way to play the game. Spinners have been around and used for decades, just not very often.

​@@MiffetBlueThis shot wasn't special because it was a spinner. It was special because it was a gear effect spinner. If a regular spinner had been enough, the commentators wouldn't have been as impressed. They've seen that before. They hadn't seen this before.

Because they already knew and everyone agreed on that it was the best stone (and 1 point to the wellow team). The question to settle was about which was the second best stone? And after measurement, it turned out to be the other yellow stone, i.e. 2 points to the yellow team.

because it was closer. That was a point stone, both teams agreed on that. No need to keep it on for the measuring between the other two stones.

The below are correct..its in the way to test if 2nd stone is good for 2 points and tied game.

Check out the story link in the description, and you’ll see a previous story link that explains it

@@TheCurlingNews Thanks, now it makes sense.

Let’s see you do it this shot takes a ton of practice and skill lmao

It's already pretty crazy to chuck a rock down a sheet of ice and land it that precisely 40 meters away. To do it with that much spin just makes it much harder to control that precisely, and there's no need most of the time so it isn't really something they spend a lot of time practicing. I don't watch competitive curling that often, but I have *never* seen a shot like this before.

As you said, you know nothing. This shot is INSANE.

The shot you described would only get him one point. This shot is harder and the only way to get the two points they needed. It’s not a game of strength, it was about threading an impossibly thin line, via a heavy spin, to make the perfect connection to pull the red away.

The challenge was to score 2... doing that with the positioning of the red was crazy hard as it was backed by the other (hopefully) scoring yellow at such a tough angle.

I don't think you understand the rules of this sport

@@askafroan525 lets be honest, nobody understands the rules to this sport. Noone watches this on TV lol

@@kpacny1 Speak for yourself only. I care. Other people here care.

@@kpacny1 I feel like you're trolling, but just in case: The rules are actually fairly simple. The number of stones you have in the circle and closer than the closest opposing stone is how many points you get. There's obviously more to it than that, but that's really all you need to get started as a viewer, have fun)