Crazy collective nouns & where they came from

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Let's explore English's many weird collective nouns! And remember to head to squarespace.com/robwords to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using the code "robwords".
🥚 A gaggle of geese
📊 A business of ferrets
🎓 A school of fish
🔪 A murder of crows
🦊 A skulk of foxes
⏱ An impatience of wives (seriously)
Where on earth did we get all of these strange words for groups of things? Find out in this latest RobWords, where we do some of our own linguistic archaeology.
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@timbeard8457
@timbeard8457 Жыл бұрын
What do you call a crow sitting by itself? Attempted murder.
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo Жыл бұрын
A pair of crows actually. A crow is just a crow (or possibly a manslaughter). Two crows are an attempted murder and three crows or more are a murder. 😁
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 Жыл бұрын
No one crow innocent.
@maxberan3897
@maxberan3897 Жыл бұрын
This brings to mind that old country saying, "see one rook by 'is self, he be a crow; see a flock of crows, they be rooks". Which suggests a murder of crows is an oxymoron (except during the mating season).
@nickbarton3191
@nickbarton3191 Жыл бұрын
A suicide risk perhaps?
@Berkeloid0
@Berkeloid0 Жыл бұрын
Attempted murder - as shown in the video at 12:43
@kylestillwell7031
@kylestillwell7031 Жыл бұрын
As a ferret owner, can confirm most ferret owners DO refer to a group of ferrets as a business. Even if it's just 2 (in which case they usually call themselves a “small business owner” as a joke)
@Victorina32
@Victorina32 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😅 I love it
@anastasiafalcon4637
@anastasiafalcon4637 Жыл бұрын
This is freaking adorable
@Rapture-Farms
@Rapture-Farms Жыл бұрын
@@anastasiafalcon4637 we dont eat þe ferrets falcon.🤣👍
@CAMacKenzie
@CAMacKenzie Жыл бұрын
So. one ferret would be a sole proprietorship?
@kylestillwell7031
@kylestillwell7031 Жыл бұрын
@@CAMacKenzie honestly either way it's more like a busyness than a business
@simongee8928
@simongee8928 Жыл бұрын
When I was in the hotel industry, some of us made up some appropriate 'trade' collectives for fun. We had a decision of managers, a booking of receptionists, a recipe of cooks, a service of waiters, a round of barmen, a cleanse of housekeepers and so on. 😅
@CoachCarter94
@CoachCarter94 3 ай бұрын
That is truly amazing and clever 😂 thanks for sharing!
@shelbynamels7948
@shelbynamels7948 2 ай бұрын
as valid a collection as a pride of lions or a coven of witches. good work, well done.
@garyinspain
@garyinspain Ай бұрын
how about a fine of ticket inspectors?
@kaylew108
@kaylew108 Ай бұрын
A sweeping of janitors and a wrenching of maintenance workers
@chadgun4135
@chadgun4135 9 күн бұрын
Anger of Arabs?
@lizardog
@lizardog Жыл бұрын
In 1974, I was working as a secretary in a high school library. The first Christmas I worked there, the head librarian gifted me a slim book called "An Exaltation of Larks." It was, of course, a book of collective nouns, and utterly fascinating. I have it to this day.
@KapitanStav
@KapitanStav 3 ай бұрын
A notable book by James Lipton (known for Actors' Studio) that should have been mentioned in this video even if it wasn't used as source.
@talastra
@talastra 2 ай бұрын
A sassafras of vermillion
@michaelturner2806
@michaelturner2806 Жыл бұрын
I still remember in the adult animated show with anthropomorphic animals Bojack Horseman, one character at a formal party is taking to a ferret alone and ends the chat with "I'll let you get back to your business." as the character rejoins other ferrets and I smiled sooooo much
@mick1turner
@mick1turner Жыл бұрын
I just had to reply because you have the same name as me. Is the collective noun of lesbians a lick? Or was someone just pulling my leg.
@null_pointer_deref
@null_pointer_deref Жыл бұрын
I didn't catch up that one when I was watching the series! The writers are truly geniuses
@michaellavery4899
@michaellavery4899 Ай бұрын
A handful of wankers.
@viriss612
@viriss612 Жыл бұрын
An absence of waiters is still one of my favorites
@carolinaroot3492
@carolinaroot3492 Жыл бұрын
😅
@mykehog6646
@mykehog6646 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@m.r.3912
@m.r.3912 Жыл бұрын
Here in germany the most absent employes are the staff of hardware stores😂
@hkpew
@hkpew 10 ай бұрын
Thai doesn't really do exactly this, but a standard feature of the language is that there are words called classifiers which are required whenever you want to talk about a quantity of something. So for instance, if I wanted to say "there are 5 children here" in Thai it would come out something like "here have children 5 people", where the word people here is the classifier for groups of people. This can lead to some unintended humor for English speakers learning Thai, especially because sometimes the classifier for one type of things can sound the same as a noun with an entirely different meaning. For instance, the word for children sounds the same as the classifier for small round objects. So if you want to ask a Thai man how many children he has, "you have children how many people?", but instead use English grammer, "you have how many children (small round objects)?", he will almost certainly say "two!", probably with a straight face. Then he'll crack up.
@markkettlewell7441
@markkettlewell7441 9 ай бұрын
I found out that a gaggle of geese is only referenced to them together on the ground. When geese are in flight they are referred collectively as a ‘skein’ 😅 I also like a flamboyance of flamingos.
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 8 ай бұрын
Yes and on the water, they are called a "raft."
@aaronsakulich4889
@aaronsakulich4889 Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, when I lived in Namibia, "crash" was the word that everyone used to describe a group of Rhinos. I've heard it quite often.
@christopping5876
@christopping5876 Жыл бұрын
As a Zimbabwean, I have too.
@tusharroymukherjee3370
@tusharroymukherjee3370 Жыл бұрын
That is the formal English term for a group of Rhinos.
@Tsurf
@Tsurf Жыл бұрын
Motswana here, same.
@paninisauce6949
@paninisauce6949 Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, though I'm not from a place with enough to say myself, I heard it used ages ago. Before any of this make-up-your-own got popular
@jadethegamermc
@jadethegamermc Жыл бұрын
The crash or the term? Haha
@shernandez8591
@shernandez8591 Жыл бұрын
My son is fascinated by these words and likes to invent his own. We live in an area with lots of seniors, who seem to just randomly bunch up in groups, impeding the movement of everyone else. So he calls them a "clot of seniors". After recently being around some teenage girls, he's calling them a "giggle of girls", which I think is has a nice similarity to gaggle of women.
@olliefoxx7165
@olliefoxx7165 Жыл бұрын
A giggle of girls is cute and clever.
@Frankie5Angels150
@Frankie5Angels150 10 ай бұрын
Your son needs a better hobby.
@ericsbuds
@ericsbuds 10 ай бұрын
too funny
@raraavis7782
@raraavis7782 10 ай бұрын
That's very cute, actually 😅
@christopherwellman2364
@christopherwellman2364 10 ай бұрын
Since boys tend to be a bit nervous around girls, one might call a group a bumbling of boys.
@Angel-nb1ek
@Angel-nb1ek 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy the phrase "consortium of octopuses". I can imagine them concenting to work together and then "shaking hands".
@RANDALLBRIGGS
@RANDALLBRIGGS Жыл бұрын
"An Exaltation of Larks," by James Lipton, was first published in 1968. It includes gems such as a "singularity of boars," a "nye of pheasants," a "badling of ducks," a "fall of woodcock" and a "wisp of snipe."
@sydhenderson6753
@sydhenderson6753 5 ай бұрын
The medieval manuscript has Exalting of Larks.
@mumiemonstret
@mumiemonstret 4 ай бұрын
Are they indeed suggesting "singularity" to denote a multitude of something? So weird! Or is it suggesting that boars are so compact that when they meet, they create a black hole?
@elizabethpowers7540
@elizabethpowers7540 Ай бұрын
I think it's because boors are alone as much as others can help it. 🤣@@mumiemonstret
@xxweirdofromspacexx1119
@xxweirdofromspacexx1119 Жыл бұрын
My favorite group is that of ravens, which can also be called a “conspiracy”, so one time when my mom learned this, she told us, than made a meme, it was a picture of a lot of ravens, with the caption: “IT’S A CONSPIRACY”, very few people got it. I now also love “an oversubscription of KZfaqrs”
@pxolqopt3597
@pxolqopt3597 Жыл бұрын
W mom
@daniellogan-scott5968
@daniellogan-scott5968 Жыл бұрын
One of my Facebook posts during the pandemic was the obscure "Corvid - Conspiracy or Murder". Few people got the joke.
@CrisMind
@CrisMind Жыл бұрын
They can also be known as an Unkindness Both are correct :)
@brucestiles6477
@brucestiles6477 Жыл бұрын
I saw a comic strip that called a group of lawyers a "conspiracy." :>)
@endymionselene165
@endymionselene165 Жыл бұрын
@@brucestiles6477 I thought that was a bunch of sharks? Or was I thinking about bankers? But what I do know is a Congress of Salamanders is very funny.
@josephsolowyk7697
@josephsolowyk7697 Жыл бұрын
Flamboyance of flamingoes and a kaleidoscope of butterflies have always been my favourite.
@enigma9971
@enigma9971 Жыл бұрын
I like an embarrassment of pandas
@Trekmaster47
@Trekmaster47 Жыл бұрын
How about a graffiti of zebras?
@zappababe8577
@zappababe8577 Жыл бұрын
Those are beautiful!
@DalokiMauvais
@DalokiMauvais Ай бұрын
Oh my! I had never heard "kaleidoscope of butterflies"! How delightful!
@josephsolowyk7697
@josephsolowyk7697 Ай бұрын
@@DalokiMauvais It is, rather, isn't it. :D
@julia-ff9kt
@julia-ff9kt 10 ай бұрын
One that I heard and had a giggle about was 'an attitude of teenagers'.
@epowell4211
@epowell4211 Жыл бұрын
I heard of "a crash of rhinos" and "a clowder of cats" as a child in the 70s, obviously pre internet. I remember because I was young enough to imagine the crashing sound rhinos might make attacking each other and thinking "clowder" and "chowder" were the same and being all upset about cat soup. IDK why but people seem to forget that humor has been around a long time, and would make it into print. I guess we think paper, writing, and even being able to read were so scarce that it wouldn't be wasted on nonsense.
@jamesdominguez7685
@jamesdominguez7685 Жыл бұрын
I first encountered a "parliament of owls" in one of the Narnia books. It's also the title of the chapter, and features a literal wise council of owls that advise the protagonists.
@ZlothZloth
@ZlothZloth Жыл бұрын
A parliament that gives wise advice AND keeps the rodent population in check? When C.S. Lewis dreamed, he dreamed big!
@ArisEmriis
@ArisEmriis Жыл бұрын
A fun side fact: I just recently learned it was also a nod to Chaucer's A Parliament of Foules. LOL. I'm 52 and have read and been in love with Lewis and Narnia since childhood. I still read them on occasion and it's funny how certain things in everyday life trigger memory of chapter titles or quotes from one of the books. It's so cool to see you mentioned that chapter because it's one of my very favorites in the series. 🤓🥰
@onepalproductions
@onepalproductions Жыл бұрын
The owl is a prominent feature in the ruling-classes' symbolism. Bohemian Grove has a 30-foot statue of an owl in its grounds.
@klaus_poppe
@klaus_poppe Жыл бұрын
Could be the origin of The Court of Owls, from Batman comics 🤔
@Oturan20
@Oturan20 Жыл бұрын
@@klaus_poppe IIRC, that was revealed to be one subset of the Larger [Parliament of Owls] that is basically DC's Illuminati.
@stevej513
@stevej513 Жыл бұрын
When smokers were starting to become persona non grata and small groups were seen outside buildings I asked colleagues to come up with a new collective noun for the phenomenon. My favourites were "A cloud of smokers" and "A coughin' (coffin) of smokers".
@bjornopitz6561
@bjornopitz6561 Жыл бұрын
That's lovely 😂
@Flashy7
@Flashy7 Жыл бұрын
The "coughin of smokers" is phenomenal! :D
@RealConstructor
@RealConstructor Жыл бұрын
Askegels (ash cones) is the name I use in Dutch. That’s what we call a smoked/burned part of a cigarette or cigar. And ‘kegel’ can mean cone but can also mean a bowling pin. And they’re often smoking at the entrance of a building at the end of an entranceway like a bowling alley.
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 Жыл бұрын
Coffin is the best, most interesting one.
@farmergiles1065
@farmergiles1065 Жыл бұрын
Depends on what they're smoking, though. If it's marijuana, I'd say it's more "a haze of the dazed".
@BionicDance
@BionicDance 8 ай бұрын
A complaint of Karens.
@mjlvnv
@mjlvnv Ай бұрын
Awesome
@JohnMiller-oz7gv
@JohnMiller-oz7gv 24 күн бұрын
Nice.
@thatokukama7264
@thatokukama7264 20 күн бұрын
Spot on 😂😂😂
@wilhelmsarasalo3546
@wilhelmsarasalo3546 Жыл бұрын
In my native Finland I have heard a story of crows, or more specifically "crow trials". Lots and lots of crows show up usually in a single tree. They stay there for a long time and make lots of noise. Then they leave, sometimes leaving a dead crow behind.
@cerberaodollam
@cerberaodollam Жыл бұрын
The "on porpoise" was perfect 👌
@Paul71H
@Paul71H Жыл бұрын
That reminded me of Norm MacDonald's appearance on Conan O'Brien's show, when he hilariously told the awful joke about "serving a youthful porpoise."
@PeterLawton
@PeterLawton Жыл бұрын
I like those little jokes and puns he sneaks in. But sometimes I wonder if I missed any. I'll try not to overthink it.
@wiseoldfool
@wiseoldfool Жыл бұрын
Yep, that one almost flew under the radar, he kept a perfectly straight face. Any bloopers?
@q-tuber7034
@q-tuber7034 25 күн бұрын
A nod to Lewis Carroll’s Gryphon and Mock Turtle
@deborahmatatall
@deborahmatatall Жыл бұрын
Some years ago the author of a novel I was reading referred to a group of teen-agers as a “giggle of girls.” Having a teen-age daughter at that time, I found this to be absolutely on point!🌸
@Beowulf25
@Beowulf25 Жыл бұрын
A book of collective nouns I read a few years back had "a blush of boys."
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@michelepascoe6068
@michelepascoe6068 Жыл бұрын
My Cornish grandfather referred to his four daughters as "a giggle of girls" in the 1940's.
@SkorjOlafsen
@SkorjOlafsen Жыл бұрын
Apparently this is very old, 16th century if not 15th, but was originally "a giggle of boys". Culture changes I guess.
@mahiransworld_2011
@mahiransworld_2011 Жыл бұрын
It's actually a bevy of girls
@BigJoeChrisLewis
@BigJoeChrisLewis 6 ай бұрын
My French wife recently took to describing her collection of poultry in the garden as: 'My fleet of chickens.' I pointed out to her that 'fleet' is used to describe a group of ships, or possibly aircraft. She thought about it for a while and then said: 'I rather like the idea of them being a fleet. And they do fly - a bit.'
@bobdear5160
@bobdear5160 5 ай бұрын
Love these. Our car share pool did try and come up with collective nouns, especially modern suggestions. An amalgamation of gravel lorries (or dentists though an amalgam is better) was one. We had a giggle of guides and a heap of cubs, a detention of teachers, a toccata of organists, a zoom of motorcyclists, a Nah, nah of traffic police (in pursuit with blues and twos), an annoyance of spam callers etc etc. great fun especially if the collective nouns were appropriate or even inappropriate!
@derfunkhaus
@derfunkhaus Жыл бұрын
On an episode of the television series Inspector Morse, Morse ponders what a group of pathologists would be called, and he concludes it must surely be a _body_ of pathologists.
@jaellouis4749
@jaellouis4749 Жыл бұрын
Perfect
@avaggdu1
@avaggdu1 Жыл бұрын
It is.
@markrossow6303
@markrossow6303 Жыл бұрын
enjoy the Inspector Morse radioplays
@amihicks9116
@amihicks9116 Жыл бұрын
Love Morse! English/grammar lessons and a murder all in one! John Thaw was the best!
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths Жыл бұрын
why wouldn't that be a cut?
@luciebatt
@luciebatt Жыл бұрын
We used to come up collective nouns for things that didn’t have them as a car trip game. Some of my favourite are ‘a nightmare of teenagers’ and an ‘angst of goths’.
@jjkrayenhagen
@jjkrayenhagen Жыл бұрын
Penny Arcade came up with a blessing of unicorns, I think.
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest Жыл бұрын
@@jjkrayenhagen I don't think PA came up with it, or at least I haven't found anything citing them as the source. On a side note: Google tells me a group of unicorns can also be called a glory or a marvel.
@jjkrayenhagen
@jjkrayenhagen Жыл бұрын
@@RelativelyBest I thought that one of their articles said that they came up with it in one of their discussions, but maybe they just mentioned hearing it.
@beuxjmusic
@beuxjmusic Жыл бұрын
I would argue that it should be 'An Angst of Emo' and 'A Skulk of Goths' :P
@boredincan
@boredincan Жыл бұрын
Ed Byrne says it a Mood Of Goths and an Isobar of Emos, they being linked by their depression
@felicialightfoot2380
@felicialightfoot2380 9 ай бұрын
Clowder and glaring are both actually proper for a group of cats. I ❤ kitties.
@SpiritmanProductions
@SpiritmanProductions 9 ай бұрын
Some ideas: Fluffy: An apology of Brits. Satirical: A grift of politicians. Morbid: A stabbing of youths.
@normanweatherly9475
@normanweatherly9475 15 күн бұрын
A courtesy of Canadians?
@daryengreye6573
@daryengreye6573 Жыл бұрын
Penguins actually have two collective nouns depending on whether they are on land (a waddle) or swimming (a raft).
@PLuMUK54
@PLuMUK54 Жыл бұрын
You could also have a Miracle of Penguins for when they are in flight. 🤪
@windywednesday4166
@windywednesday4166 Жыл бұрын
@@PLuMUK54 Lol, well done 👏
@michaelspano4067
@michaelspano4067 Жыл бұрын
I've heard waddle before but also a panache of penguins.
@lorraineliggera4229
@lorraineliggera4229 Жыл бұрын
@@PLuMUK54penguins fly? Only under water as far as I know.
@monkeybusiness673
@monkeybusiness673 Жыл бұрын
@@lorraineliggera4229 That's why you would call it a "miracle" ;-)
@Mandrake42
@Mandrake42 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that it being a murder of crows was somehow tied to them being perceived as an ill omen.
@nafereuskortex9055
@nafereuskortex9055 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my interpretation aswell. Maybe they weren't at the time and we just see it like that now but I always thought that was what it was referring to.
@Dancestar1981
@Dancestar1981 Жыл бұрын
So did I
@moongirl786
@moongirl786 Жыл бұрын
I think that's still the same explanation; crows were perceived as a sign of ill omen because they hang out around dead bodies and make (what are to us) ominous shrieking sounds
@margaretford1011
@margaretford1011 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the word was resurrected by the movie “The Birds” by Alfred Hitchcock. I have a vague memory of learning the word in association with that movie, but can’t remember if it was ever used in the movie.
@moongirl786
@moongirl786 Жыл бұрын
@@margaretford1011 Possibly popularized it. That's a Hitchcock I sadly haven't seen yet, I should get on that!
@ZedAmadeus
@ZedAmadeus Жыл бұрын
I really like those ones about wolves and dogs. A mute of hounds evokes the image of them silently stalking their prey from the shadows. Same with a skulk of foxes. Similar story with A route of wolves. Maybe I'm misunderstanding it, but to me it makes them sound steadfast and confident in their ability. Never straying from the path. An unwavering force of nature.
@jeffdillon1972
@jeffdillon1972 10 ай бұрын
I took the opposite view and thought perhaps the author was having a laugh by coining "mute of hounds" because if you've ever heard a group of hounds they are the exact opposite of mute!
@Branwhin
@Branwhin 7 ай бұрын
There was an event I once attended where it was announced that we had a "Hastings" of people there (1,066). I thought that was hilarious, if rather specific. I love English, it's so magnificently weird in so many ways.
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 Ай бұрын
That would surely be a misspelling of or possibly pun on hustings a meeting at which candidates in an election address potential voters. Originally referring to a governing assembly in Germanic.
@Branwhin
@Branwhin Ай бұрын
@@franohmsford7548 that's cool I did not know that! I think it had more to do with the Battle of Hastings though, which took place in 1066.
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 Ай бұрын
@@Branwhin As I said....It may have been a double pun with the number of people there making the change from Hustings to Hastings an easy and obvious malaprop.
@zarajday
@zarajday Жыл бұрын
In the US navy, our Eagle rank insignia for Petty Officers are often called crows (couldn’t tell you why) and when someone is going through a qualification where a bunch of Petty Officers are drilling you, it is called a “Murder board” because you’re surrounded by crows.
@seanluzdeluna8153
@seanluzdeluna8153 5 ай бұрын
Lol, that's interesting, didn't know that.
@DrGreenGiant
@DrGreenGiant 12 күн бұрын
Funnily enough in the British Army, officers are often referred to as crows as a bit of a pejorative. When in training we'd give the officer in charge the big, heavy LSW rifle; affectionately called the "crow cannon."
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 Жыл бұрын
My favorite is "a complaint of Karens", but "a superfluity of nuns" is a close second now! 😂
@phil_k777
@phil_k777 Жыл бұрын
Actually, a group of Karens is called a Homeowners Association.
@andresfontalvo17
@andresfontalvo17 Жыл бұрын
How about a sorry of Canadians?
@geromelegnome5446
@geromelegnome5446 Жыл бұрын
A drunk of Irish!!!
@aaroncarson1770
@aaroncarson1770 Жыл бұрын
@@andresfontalvo17 That's cute, and harsh.
@jasonrhodes9726
@jasonrhodes9726 Жыл бұрын
A tangle of octopi? An extinction of dinosaurs? A parliament of idiots? A stagger of drunks or a vomit of drunks? A whining of millennials? A pile up of cars? A rusting of cars where I live. A grating of cell phones? Their constant ringing, dinging and buzzing quickly start grating on my nerves, maybe because no one ever calls me. A singling of loners? Only seen at comic conventions or Magic the Gathering tournaments. Maybe a stink of nerds?
@alisong2328
@alisong2328 Жыл бұрын
I love "a clowder of cats" which I recently came across in a recent book about shape-shifters. (I looked it up, and it only dates from about 1801, and probably comes "cludder" (clutter) related to "clot.")
@CalebJMartin
@CalebJMartin 4 ай бұрын
If I were to suggest a couple collective nouns... Maybe a _Mumble_ of Linguists? A _Thunder_ of dinosaurs? How about a _Scribble_ of cartographers? Always love your content, keep up the amazing work 😁
@blindphilosopher
@blindphilosopher 2 ай бұрын
None of those can surpass "A Confusion of Philosophers". That's my favorite one.
@CandC68
@CandC68 Жыл бұрын
One of my teachers told us this. According to an old joke, four Oxford dons, each of them expert in a different field, were taking a walk in the city of dreaming spires. When they passed a group of prostitutes, the first exclaimed: “A jam of tarts!” The second, a musicologist: “A flourish of strumpets.” The third, a scholar of nineteenth-century English literature: “An essay of Trollope’s.” The last, a professor of modern English: “An anthology of pros.”
@southcoastpauly
@southcoastpauly Жыл бұрын
Sound like they were a Misanthrope of Dons.
@jeffreyadams648
@jeffreyadams648 Жыл бұрын
@@southcoastpauly now, not then.
@viklightfoot45
@viklightfoot45 Жыл бұрын
Oh, very good 😄
@Fishtory
@Fishtory Жыл бұрын
As a fish nerd...(great video as usual! Thank you) i just wanted to mention that schooling and shoaling are distinctively different. A school is tightly grouped fish moving as one, undualting and pulsing. A shoal is when fish split up and stay near but each scatter in their own patterns and far more loosely. Just two different survival tactics that evolved for social fish.
@naomilangevin3944
@naomilangevin3944 11 ай бұрын
I thought a "shoal" was also an area of shallower water near the coast that ships could still travel through. As in the Pirates of the Caribbean 2 "we are shallow on the draft, can't see lose them along the shoal?" Or is the word incorrect? I'm not a nautical person but my first thought upon hearing the word shoal was water depth not fish.
@Fishtory
@Fishtory 11 ай бұрын
@naomilangevin3944 that is another use of the word also. Good call
@nathanielcowan3971
@nathanielcowan3971 7 ай бұрын
​@@naomilangevin3944I'm from savannah GA with some time spent in the florida keys and breifly in the gulf of mexico and that's the only way I've ever heard it used. There could be several schools of fish or fishes( the double plural for multiple kinds of fish that is rarely used outside of biblical quotations or marine biologists but could be used at any fish market) but they were described as swimming or otherwise residing in the shoals or in "that shoal over there" as someone pointed to a distinct area that followed a line. I was never instructed as to what designated the ending of one shoal and the beginning of another but it always seemed intuitive with darkening waters and bigger individual fish species frequenting those areas and far fewer smaller or more numerous species. Like the space between galaxies or a dark region where few galaxies exist or within a galaxy where few star systems exist but which isn't obscured by a dust cloud. "The shoals" was an area you could explore and was populated by schools and individual marine species.
@nathanielcowan3971
@nathanielcowan3971 7 ай бұрын
It was never defined to me, but often used. I suppose it could've been in reference to the loose groupings of fish who occupied those regions, but I remember being warned about getting a water craft stuck in those regions on several occasions or damaging a keel. A fin keel, was also just called a keel. With fiberglass and inflated or semi ridged hulls which never possessed a real keel from stem to stern as well as the metal bottom and even modern wooden vessels with a shallow keel simply referred to as the hull or bottom of the hull. The only time that the word "keel" was imidiatly followed by the word "fin" was on the caudal peduncle of a fish at the 4H marine center, which the children would imidiatly laugh at when pronounced.
@FuzzyElf
@FuzzyElf 10 ай бұрын
I have a longtime favorite, mentioned in this video: an unkindness of ravens. I met the phrase decades ago as the title of a crime novel by an English author! I can only recall making up one group noun: a giggle of queens for a group of gay men. This is from long ago when I was much younger, and more prone to giggling with my friends. I would strive to use it only in describing men who like, or don't mind, being called queens. :-)
@arwenwestrop5404
@arwenwestrop5404 6 ай бұрын
I do love a 'Flamboyance of Flamingos'. No clue where it comes from, but honestly? I don't care, I just love it!
@skiesboi
@skiesboi Жыл бұрын
Also, having grown up in Africa, I think that one would be hard-pressed to find two leopards together, let alone a whole "leap of leopards". This may be another reason that they fell out of use. There is not much use of a collective noun for something that doesn't exist in a collective
@mellertid
@mellertid 10 ай бұрын
An imagination of hermits.
@JCSAXON
@JCSAXON 10 ай бұрын
I’d say that lands perfectly between phonetics, exoticism & exaggerated warning
@jgw5491
@jgw5491 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if it was coined for multiple leopards in a heraldic achievement?
@timolynch149
@timolynch149 9 ай бұрын
@@jgw5491 A heraldic achievement would be the entirety of all the components a bearer of a coat of arms is entitled to (supporters, motto, helmet, mantling etc). I'm not aware of leopards being displayed anywhere outside of a heraldic charge. To the best of my knowledge, three is the maximum of leopards displayed in any coat of arms (and they usually look more or less the same like a heraldic lion because, frankly, medieval Europeans had no clue what they looked like) and heraldry tries to be precise when describing any given coat of arms. For instance, the famous English three lions where, in heraldry, originally called leopards (which was more of a description for a pose). So, the royal British arms would be Gules, three lions passant guardant in pale Or armed and langued Azure -> On a red field, three golden lions walking in the "Dexter" position looking towards the viewers with a blue tongue. TLDR: Heraldry does not use collective nouns for a charge, it would say "2 leopards" or "3 fish" or "5 geese"
@henrywhite2984
@henrywhite2984 9 ай бұрын
and blue claws. That's the "armed". @@timolynch149
@LydJaGillers
@LydJaGillers Жыл бұрын
The effortless use of porpoise in your monologue without even skipping a beat or smiling was 😚👌🏻 perfect. 😆 Thank you for the pun.
@evertvandenberghe
@evertvandenberghe Жыл бұрын
And thanks for all the fish!
@toddtanner95
@toddtanner95 Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this 👏🏼
@prva9347
@prva9347 Жыл бұрын
I dolphinately enjoyed that pun too.
@xyz.ijk.
@xyz.ijk. Жыл бұрын
Yes his was perfect. I tried to slip it in once in a conversation and received a lot of side-eyed views.
@maighaleb786
@maighaleb786 Жыл бұрын
Literally going through the comments to see if anyone else noticed 👏🏽
@carolynstrover
@carolynstrover Жыл бұрын
I love the counters for vultures !! A kettle while flying , a committee while in the ground and a wake while eating I think 😂 generically one can use a flock
@tommccanna7036
@tommccanna7036 4 ай бұрын
I remember a member of the audience at an orchestral concert saying that a particularly quiet tremolo passage by the violas sounded like "a herd of bees".
@mikeroberts847
@mikeroberts847 Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that when geese are on the ground they are a ‘gaggle’ but when flying in formation they are a ‘skein’.
@Dbsabzbzb
@Dbsabzbzb Жыл бұрын
Yes, and when speaking of a skein of geese, it’s fun to advise that geese assemble into these formations to benefit from the aerodynamic efficiency it provides, and then ask why one side of the skein is longer than the other and pause while the scientific possibilities are considered...the answer? There’s more geese on that side...
@WildStar2002
@WildStar2002 Жыл бұрын
@@Dbsabzbzb One of my favorite jokes - and you beat me to it! lol! 🤣
@greebo7857
@greebo7857 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how it is connected with a skein of wool, wool wound in a loop before it is wound into a ball.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher Жыл бұрын
A group of geese floating on water is called a plump.
@RCassinello
@RCassinello Жыл бұрын
It's because geese skein up to get high. :D
@colonelb
@colonelb Жыл бұрын
The 90's band, "Counting Crows" has a great song called "Murder of one" that is about being isolated and alone, and I've always loved the obscurity of the reference.
@singleproppilot
@singleproppilot Жыл бұрын
That title is much more clever than the band’s music, which I had completely forgotten about.
@TheMowgus
@TheMowgus Жыл бұрын
"It appears we've made the change on porpoise..." 😄😅🤣😂🐬 Well played sir. Well played.
@JMPschool1
@JMPschool1 4 ай бұрын
I love the accuracy of an embarrassment of pandas and I love the word niblings because saying "nieces and nephews" is such a mouthful. I can't wait to see my niblings this weekend lol such an adorable word
@vickypedia1308
@vickypedia1308 Жыл бұрын
I love "a fluffle of bunnies", even if I don't know if it has any linguistic history or if that was just made up recently. It's certainly catching on with bunny owners!
@slwrabbits
@slwrabbits Жыл бұрын
FLUFF ❤
@danutagajewski3330
@danutagajewski3330 Жыл бұрын
Growing up in England in the 50s, I remember one of my favourite classes was spending a whole week on collective nouns. Our teacher combined grammar with literature, history, and even art to teach us collective nouns. One that I remember from that time, and have never heard it used since is a commonwealth of bees.
@PA-ss5cq
@PA-ss5cq Жыл бұрын
Did you use the book "First Aid in English"? It was a splendid schoolbook, which our primary school relied on hugely for such delights as these collective words. I haven't seen a copy of it anywhere in decades.
@karphin1
@karphin1 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you had a fabulous teacher!
@b.a.erlebacher1139
@b.a.erlebacher1139 Жыл бұрын
I think it may derive from one of the 18th century British philosophers who wrote an essay about the ideal state being like a beehive with all the bees selflessly devoted to their king, ultimately producing sweetness and light, i.e. honey and beeswax for candles. A commonwealth of bees. Of course, they didn't know that the king bee is actually female, and the other bees are sterile females who cluster around her to feed her and carry off her eggs. I actually read this royalist essay long ago, and was pleased to see the origin of the phrase sweetness and light, although it's usually used ironically now.
@karphin1
@karphin1 Жыл бұрын
@@b.a.erlebacher1139 Very interesting, thanks for that insight!
@valhalla-tupiniquim
@valhalla-tupiniquim Жыл бұрын
The word commonwealth reminds me of a group of countries.
@kevintunnicliffe2181
@kevintunnicliffe2181 Ай бұрын
I've heard a couple of supposed origins for this one. The version of the story I like is: The then PM, Thatcher, organised a get-together of former Prime Ministers. Callaghan, Heath, MacMillan, Wilson and Home were chatting and one musingly asked "What do you think the collective noun for a gathering of Prime Ministers would be?" MacMillan suggested that it would be 'A Lack'. Explaining he said, "A lack of principals." I hope it's true, it's certainly a pretty good description.
@wordreet
@wordreet 10 ай бұрын
A Murmuration of Starlings has always been my favourite. It's just so onomatopoeic !
@artcflowers
@artcflowers 22 күн бұрын
Psst... Onomatopoeia, pronounced ah-nuh-mah-tuh-PEE-uh, refers to the practice of naming something based on a phonetic (spoken) imitation of a sound associated with it. It can also refer to a single word of this kind: Hiss is an onomatopoeia. Buzz, chirp, and honk are all also examples of onomatopoeia.
@Vazlist
@Vazlist Жыл бұрын
I ran into the "Stoakes-Whibley natural index of supernatural collective nouns" a while back, and it has some interesting entries like: a racket of banshees, a legion of demons, a pleasure of pixies, a majesty of titans, a yard-sale of androids, a percussion of giants, an industry of villains, a snarl of minotaurs, THE BORG, and my favourite a basement of vampires.
@andreavantzet1962
@andreavantzet1962 Жыл бұрын
Okay, I have to give credit to the late, great Terry Pratchett for this one who gave us the Argument of Witches.
@jamesmadden108
@jamesmadden108 Жыл бұрын
Shortage of Dwarves
@unsrescyldas9745
@unsrescyldas9745 Жыл бұрын
Ive heard legion of demons quite often, and honestly, an industry of villains fit well.
@freewheelinfranklin6201
@freewheelinfranklin6201 Жыл бұрын
A Rattle of Bones.
@shivlan
@shivlan Жыл бұрын
I love that you asked a bird-related society about those words, and they answered you seriously. Your channel truly contains a "wonder of videos"!
@chipdenman863
@chipdenman863 5 ай бұрын
Crash of Rinos was on a poster in my elementary school library (early 1970s) as well as a murder of crows, pride of lions, and parliament of owls.
@awesomebearaudiobooks
@awesomebearaudiobooks Жыл бұрын
I think it was quite natural for some of the weird collective nouns to be resurrected in the 20th century. 400 years ago, such words were something of a slang, not much more than a joke, so they were mostly forgotten when they went out of fashion. On the other hand, in the 20th century, a lot of people didn't perceive such words as "slang" when reading old literature (it was the 20th century when most people finally got access to affordable books), but rather as very "classy" and "educated" ways that only "smart" and "authoritative" people use (that is, people who don't have much going on in their lives and who use their knowledge of obscure words from old books to assert their "superiority"). I can already imagine some schoolteacher from the 20th century saying "No, Billy! It's not a group of crows! It's a murder of crows! Remember to always use proper English, Billy!"
@JontysCorner
@JontysCorner Жыл бұрын
I think one of your first lines in this video should be adopted. 'A peculiarity of English' is a very good collective noun for us 😂
@patrickbodine1300
@patrickbodine1300 10 ай бұрын
"British English" I would assume.
@nathanielcowan3971
@nathanielcowan3971 7 ай бұрын
It works for the people or the language, if you'd like to refer to a grouping of words.
@MarcelGomesPan
@MarcelGomesPan Жыл бұрын
I have actually wondered about this. In Swedish the only ones i can think of are: Flock - most animals. Stimm - Fish. And Svärm - Insects. All CAN be used for people too but would be seen as rather pejorative . We also use ”Stimma” as a verb for people making a commotion or Stimmig describing such people. And about sound, we do have Surra ( a buzzing sound ) sometimes used for people and especially talkative groups or individuals. Well! Here are my contributions: * A poop of polititians. * A sob of singles. * A snot of celebrities. * A mayhem of musicians. * A whatdahellyawant of whiskies. * An otherness of opinions. * A dingle of departments. * A potty of political parties. * A plummet of airplanes.
@DenverBrin
@DenverBrin Жыл бұрын
A plummet of airplanes, lol
@the20thDoctor
@the20thDoctor Жыл бұрын
Plummet of Airplanes? Too soon man, too soon. 9/11 Never Forget!
@survivedandthriving
@survivedandthriving Жыл бұрын
I am so often so happy with the YT algorithm that sends me to so many random (for me) channels. This is one of those times. Less than a minute into the video I already sensed I would really enjoy and appreciate this one. At the end of the video, my first impression was confirmed. Thank you for an enjoyable, entertaining, and informative talk. I have subscribed! :D
@Dionaea_floridensis
@Dionaea_floridensis Жыл бұрын
In Japanese, the suffix "tachi/dachi (達)" is usually just tagged onto the end of nouns to pluralize them, since Japanese doesn't really have plurals like English does. For example, 人達 means "people"
@murraycallahan3716
@murraycallahan3716 Жыл бұрын
In high school we read a short story about collective nouns called”…And a Grasp of Millionaires”.
@laartje24
@laartje24 Жыл бұрын
My favourite (whether it is old or modern) is a mischief of rats. As a pet rat owner it amuses me because it is so accurate. If my pet rats start grouping together, they are usually up to something.
@Jess-qk1qh
@Jess-qk1qh 2 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that we usually say '[collective noun] of [noun]'. Like if someone said 'there's a murder over there', that would mean something different from 'there's a murder of crows over there'
@JessScreams
@JessScreams Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites is a mischief of rats! I loved calling my pet rats that when I had them! They were certainly mischievous when they all worked together!
@research903
@research903 Жыл бұрын
When I was growing up, we had about 30 or more barn cats on our farm. These were semi-feral cats that lived in our barns and kept the vermin population under control. My grandfather referred to them as a "TRIBE" of cats. He also pointed out that there were two distinct tribes; one tribe at each of our barns. Also, each tribe had a distinct TOM that ruled each tribe.
@N3W8Y
@N3W8Y Жыл бұрын
A Thunder of Dragons Is a term I have heard before. Very evocative. I would imagine, numerous massive wings beating simultaneously might sound like a thunderstorm.
@CyberiusT
@CyberiusT 11 ай бұрын
In the days of IRC, the usenet newsgroup alt.fan.dragons spread there as AFD, and coined "a Dominance of Dragons" (with caps, because dragons are prideful ;)
@duperscreen811
@duperscreen811 9 ай бұрын
Stephen King calls it a Bonfire of Dragons.
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 9 ай бұрын
At my Gaming Table (D&D or GURPS usually) it would deteriorate to a "Hilarity of Dragons" at this point... AND it's probably my fault... In a "one-shot-turned-campaign", sometime back, I was reaching a low-energy point and someone complained that we hadn't (as a group) faced any dragons... Now, granted, we had several relative noob's in the group and some veterans of our collective had "retired" (basically moved and life got in the way)... so it was a sort of new group, but it had also been quite a while since we had faced dragons, even for the remaining veterans of the game at the Table... SO I started working in an adventure direction toward that... At some point, memories of my mother crept in, and particularly a conversation (she was a fantasy novel FIEND) where we discussed the actual ramifications of "what if dragons WERE real"... AND hit upon the prospect of just leaving the car wash... and you think bird-sh*t is disheartening! SO in a town carved right out of the rocks of mountainsides and cliffs, I narrated and described a few free-standing buildings, all of which seemed at least 3 to 5 TIMES as durable as any the Party had seen... There were signs of course, "beware dragons" and the like... Everything outdoors was WAY over-engineered for what you'd expect... AND the livery in town even had a system for self service in the case the shop keep or night watch wasn't immediately present, so customers could let themselves in and park wagons without requisite aid, a place to write and sign notes, and the like... BUT of course, they parked the wagon and horses right outside the bar, and even ignored the warnings from a couple street kids and a woman who could easily tell they "weren't from anywhere around here"... AND of course, a few minutes in the tavern later, there was a horrendous crash outside, the screaming of horses and a commotion... and the Party came out to see the immense pile of dung slumping in the middle of the remains of their wagon, with the horses bolting down the street... because I couldn't get the idea out of my head... and it was too funny to resist... SO ever since that little adventure (which they played out and even survived relatively the worse for the wear, but not hopelessly so) the merest mention of dragons at our Table results in a roll of giggles and mutters building up to hilarity as the story is retold to whomever "was noob' enough to look for that kind of trouble" at least at our Table... ;o)
@peter_kitsune
@peter_kitsune 8 ай бұрын
I think that came from the Inheritance Cycle
@nathanielcowan3971
@nathanielcowan3971 7 ай бұрын
I've read "an inferno of dragons" though they were at that moment in the story attacking a town with fire. "A blaze of dragons" would also be a good short hand, perhaps used by members of a more rural community in a fantasy setting.
@adreabrooks11
@adreabrooks11 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed "a congress of baboons." I'm not sure it's historical, but I have to applaud whichever wag put it into circulation. Regarding "a crash of rhinoceroi," I've heard that this term dates back to Juliana Berners' book - but, as you've cited it as one of your sources for the video, I now have doubts. Finally, "a walk of snails" was a new one for me, and I like it! I think I'm going to have to resurrect this one. Edit: Watching this again, almost a year later, I just caught "a Laughtre of Oſteloris" - which I *think* would be "hostlers" in today's English. In my own experience, people who care for horses are often characterized by raucous good humour; I guess some things never change.
@petertaylor4980
@petertaylor4980 22 күн бұрын
Hostler or ostler. I'd only previously encountered the second spelling, but apparently the two are about as common as each other.
@adreabrooks11
@adreabrooks11 22 күн бұрын
@@petertaylor4980 Interesting! I've only encountered "ostler" in literature. According to a quick Google search, it seems that "ostler" is the common British spelling and "hostler" the American. This is odd because I'm Canadian, and we usually favour the British spelling of things (or, occasionally, the French spelling, for the sake of saving money on road signs).
@Bill.Pearson
@Bill.Pearson 4 ай бұрын
Few people think of it, but 'a month of Sundays' is a term of venery (which is what names of collections are called). "I haven't seen you in a month of Sundays." would imply 30-ish Sundays-- 7-8 months--so, a long time. I believe the term for ferrets is 'a busyness of ferrets' (not 'business'), which aptly describes them. And, yes; 'busyness' is a real word. The Pedantry Corner is now closed.
@wtfpwnz0red
@wtfpwnz0red Жыл бұрын
Oddly, I've heard groups of vultures referred to in three ways. Flying in a group they're called a "kettle," which as far as I know is a general term for birds flying in formation. Landed and hanging out (on trees, power lines, etc) they're a "committee," and a "wake" when gathered around a corpse.
@missharry5727
@missharry5727 6 ай бұрын
Kettle is generally used at least in the USA for a group of birds, generally vultures and/or other birds of prey soaring and circling in a thermal.
@elittlebit493
@elittlebit493 Жыл бұрын
For what it is worth, we were given a (printed) list of collective animals at school in the late 70s. A ‘crash of rhinos’ was listed there and it was one of the ones that has stuck with me through the years.
@DocBree13
@DocBree13 Жыл бұрын
I’ve definitely heard/read that many times over the years, myself.
@mjouwbuis
@mjouwbuis Жыл бұрын
In Dutch there's still a word "samenscholing" for a group getting together in public (often used in the context of demonstrations, riots, law enforcement, etc). A "samenscholingsverbod" is thus a prohibition to form groups at that particular location.
@annef.4616
@annef.4616 10 ай бұрын
I was delighted when I came across "a kaleidoscope of butterflies."
@darrelsartin4355
@darrelsartin4355 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I received a book - "An Exaltation of Larks", a book entirely devoted to collective nouns. Get a copy if you can find one, it's fascinating!
@ThomasBushnellBSG
@ThomasBushnellBSG Жыл бұрын
Which emphasizes that it's a game! And has stunning illustrations... Pride of place on my shelf!
@Shmerpy
@Shmerpy Жыл бұрын
It s fascinating!
@PetCactusA_HarmlessLittlePrick
@PetCactusA_HarmlessLittlePrick Жыл бұрын
By James Lipton.
@claudiaf.2236
@claudiaf.2236 Жыл бұрын
As a German speaking person, I am very familiar with such collective words. But in German they are used in daily language. From the comments now I understood, that people do not really know them? By the way: A school of dolphins or dolphinschool (Delfinschule) is a known expression. But we have also fun words like: a hunger of bears (Bärenhunger) a thirst of apes (Affendurst).
@johnstobart7028
@johnstobart7028 Жыл бұрын
For clarity, collective words in English are not those wonderful collections of words all stuck together that make German such a joy. Bärenhunger is NOT a multiplicity of bears and Affendurst is not a multiplicity of apes and as far as I know the Delfinschule is where you learn to swim. Rather a fun posting nonetheless!
@m.r.3912
@m.r.3912 Жыл бұрын
Dolphin school or whale school are used in German. But more likely for a group of moms and kids
@patrickbodine1300
@patrickbodine1300 10 ай бұрын
...or whales as well.
@italianorgan3868
@italianorgan3868 9 ай бұрын
In Donald Duck, years ago, I saw Affenhitze.
@MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
@MrXyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 7 ай бұрын
Are you not confusing collective nouns (a gaggle of geese/Gänseschar) with compund nouns (Windmill/Windmühle)? As far as I am awarre there are only few collective nouns in German as the same word e.g. Schar is used for a large number fo different animals.
@TiffanyRedGreen
@TiffanyRedGreen Жыл бұрын
A crash of rhinos and a bloom of jellyfish are some of my favourites.
@paulbonge6617
@paulbonge6617 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob! Another one of your videos I'm delighted to see. I do adore the "Art of Venery" Shoals and shoals of fishes!
@samTollefson
@samTollefson Жыл бұрын
Please bear with me on this one. Once a year I make a 9-gallon batch of Spaghetti sauce that I freeze in 2-person portions for an easy meal once a week or so. After I have all the ingredients combined in 2 large pots I distribute it into 8 crock pots I have collected over the years, for a low slow overnight cook to get that "Grandma spent all day in the kitchen" flavor. So, what do I call this gathering of pots in my kitchen? A simmer of crock pots!
@wordreet
@wordreet 10 ай бұрын
Love it!
@samTollefson
@samTollefson 10 ай бұрын
@@wordreet It's not often that I come up with an acknowledged witticism, so I am going to take some time and savor it! Thank You!
@wordreet
@wordreet 10 ай бұрын
@@samTollefson Please be careful though. Leaving stuff cooking overnight is not without risks. Hopefully you have a smoke alarm in the ceiling nearby. Our local Fire Service people installed three in various places in the house just a few months ago. I had one for ages, but with no battery in it!
@samTollefson
@samTollefson 10 ай бұрын
@@wordreet No worries, I run the pots at about 210 degrees until I go to sleep then turn them off with the covers on until the morning when I bring them back up to 180 or so before shutting them down, cooling and bagging them for freezing. I have been doing this for 30+ years with no problems, and have enjoyed a few thousand delicious low-effort weekday meals! Thanks for your concern!
@wordreet
@wordreet 10 ай бұрын
@@samTollefson Cool bananas! No, wait! Hot bananas! No! Wait! . . . 😕
@davetaylor2088
@davetaylor2088 Жыл бұрын
I love that you mentioned that the collective noun for a group of whales was changed to "pod on porpoise" and just moved right along. Very droll. Also 'flocc' is what we call the bound together suspended solids in a liquid - as used in water treatment, where a floccing agent is added to make the solids combine and sink or float so they can be removed.
@janami-dharmam
@janami-dharmam Жыл бұрын
it is a flocculating agent; well known to chemists
@holly50575
@holly50575 Жыл бұрын
Dave Taylor, yes, I heard that and my brain went BOING…! Too early in the morning for puns🤪
@davidjrutz1947
@davidjrutz1947 Жыл бұрын
I caught that, too. I had to back it up and listen again with CC on. Rob is a punny guy.
@MentalHealthMatters_1st
@MentalHealthMatters_1st 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video; I’ve got a new hobby! How about - apparition of Saints - transferrence of psychoanalysts - levity of idiots - jauntyness of teenagers - sleepiness of anaesthetists - obnoxiousness of clients - binarity of computer scientists?
@bzz8540
@bzz8540 2 ай бұрын
Where I’m from in America collective nouns are sometimes used by PA or radio announcers for amateur Football (American) games. For example they’ll say “The runner was brought down by a pride of panthers.” Or “There was a stampede of thoroughbreds on the tackle”. The announcer for my county’s team growing up always said a “host of wildcats”. I think it has become somewhat of a pastime over here to make up some of these or coin them.
@mrb4750
@mrb4750 Жыл бұрын
My favorite involves vultures. When there are a group of vultures eating together it is a wake of vultures. I cannot think of a better word.
@MarioRodriguez-ow9rl
@MarioRodriguez-ow9rl Жыл бұрын
In Spanish we also have some collective nouns for animals, although maybe less than English as far as I know. The main ones are: "Banco de peces" literally "Bank of fishes" "Bandada de aves" literally "Band of birds" "Enjambre de abejas" literally "swarm/crowd of bees" "Jauría de perros o lobos" literally "dance of dogs/hounds/wolves" "Piara de cerdos o jabalíes" literally "feet of pigs/wild boars"
@sanjivjhangiani3243
@sanjivjhangiani3243 Жыл бұрын
In English, we have a "sounder" of hogs, and hunters still use that.
@rijjhb9467
@rijjhb9467 Жыл бұрын
The Italian "muta di cani" sounds incredibly similar to "mute of hounds", and it means the same thing.
@copacopa4881
@copacopa4881 Жыл бұрын
@Rijjhb in french too "une meute de chiens"
@Cailean_MacCoinnich
@Cailean_MacCoinnich Жыл бұрын
"Enjambre de abejas" literally "swarm/crowd of bees". I'm feeling this could easily translate into English as "A jamboree of bees" which sounds quite jolly.
@rijjhb9467
@rijjhb9467 Жыл бұрын
@@copacopa4881 the funny thing is that I have no idea of what "muta" means in that context. Do you happen to know what "meute" means in French?
@jeepien
@jeepien 2 ай бұрын
My all-time favorites are the three collective nouns for a group of vultures. They are a *kettle* of vultures when wheeling overhead,. When roosting in threes they are called a *committee* of vultures, and when engaged in the business of feeding on a dead carcass, they are a *wake* of vultures.
@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER
@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER 11 ай бұрын
as a beekeeper, who likes to ride bikes........ i can safely say, its not a "bike of bees" if they are in their established hive, its a "colony"....... if they are moving out, and in between hives, its a "swarm"..... if they abandon their home, its an "absconce" ...... if they all die inside their hive, its a "deadout".......... if the colony is new and small, its a "nuc" (short for nucleus) ................ if its a random queen, with random bees, in a temporary box, its a "Package"............................ and if youre me, they are "friends"
@jccusell
@jccusell Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the fact many of these where meant as witty or tongue in cheek ideas and actually went to catch on in common language use. Just awesome. An impatience of wives?! I am dying hahaha
@deirdre8744
@deirdre8744 Жыл бұрын
Nonsense of husbands!
@olliefoxx7165
@olliefoxx7165 Жыл бұрын
​@@deirdre8744 It's creative and funny.
@brianrobinson4825
@brianrobinson4825 Жыл бұрын
As a birder and RSPB member, a murmuration is used to describe a particular flocking behaviour where large numbers of birds flock together in flight, darting about allegedly to confuse potential predators. And Starlings are indeed one of the most common murmurator species. Also waders like knot murmurate. So a murmuration of starlings is in quite common usage in the community. But as to whether this is the original source of the collective noun, or if the collective noun led to the description of behaviour, I cannot say.
@HATECELL
@HATECELL 6 ай бұрын
German has some collective nouns, but not nearly as many. Aside from some occupations with some specialised terms, like fishermen or hunters, there are just a handful of words depending on what kind of group it is. For example, a group of predatory animals formed to assist each other in hunting is a Rudel, no matter if it is wolves, dogs, or lions. A Herde is a group of usually herbivorous animals formed to protect each other when eating or travelling, and usually has some kind of leader. Schwarm is often used for birds, fish, or insects, but really all massive gatherings (especially if they seem kinda chaotic and unorganised to us humans) can be called that. For smaller and more organised groups or migration of birds sometimes Rudel (or even military terms like Formation, Staffel, or Zug) gets used to empathise how orderly they fly compared to the chaos of a swarm.
@jackevans2386
@jackevans2386 6 ай бұрын
I love your videos Rob ! Great work, once again.
@thehun1234
@thehun1234 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Have you considered making a video about the different sounds animals make in different languages? In one of my jobs I had co-workers of several different nationalities and somebody went around using people to tell him what kind of sound the different animals make in their native language. It was surprising how different the sounds were. In English the ducks quack but us Hungarians claim that the sound they make is "hap".
@mollydooker9636
@mollydooker9636 Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@thunder_birdfps8294
@thunder_birdfps8294 Жыл бұрын
Yesss
@b.a.erlebacher1139
@b.a.erlebacher1139 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@nickbarton3191
@nickbarton3191 Жыл бұрын
Romanians say that the ducks go 'mac, mac' which curiously is also their word for poppy.
@SuperC142
@SuperC142 Жыл бұрын
This is a great idea!
@erinsim1062
@erinsim1062 Жыл бұрын
I recommend the late James Lipton's book in collective nouns, "An Exaltation of Larks." It's lovely, and has both traditional and cleverly suggested names that add poetry to our language. Any interest in common nouns in the latter part of the 1900s probably stems from Lipton's delightful book.
@kj3d812
@kj3d812 10 ай бұрын
I think that's the book I used to have -- my favorite collective noun has always been "an exaltation of larks." 😊
@souptec
@souptec 2 ай бұрын
As a fan of Time Team, in one episode Tony Robinson asked what the collective noun for archeologists should be and it was determined that it should be an Argument of Archeologists.
@errolfellows409
@errolfellows409 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Your presentations are a delight! The "side-tracked by beer again" remark had me giggling, and simply grabbed me. As did Squawky McSquawkerton!
@stephaniesullivan8989
@stephaniesullivan8989 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been delighted at one of the collective nouns for otters as being a “romp”. Very suitable, particularly for river otters.
@huyxiun2085
@huyxiun2085 Жыл бұрын
I had some trouble learning English, like many French. Unlike many French, I had both of my parents being quite confident with it. That didn't really help me, but still, I knew they knew much more than other kids' parents, in that field. I was done with school life and starting to learn more and more English at my work, eventually getting comfortable with it. I came across the expression "murder of crows", and found it funny. I went to my mother, the best of my two parents at English. Understand she's quite fluent in it, although to be fair, she's quite fluent in several languages. It's actually NOT helping to know many languages when you need to know tiny details about a second one. She laughed so hard at me when I explained her that expression. "Stop that non-sense, stupid. Never heard of such a thing. You're supposed to be an adult now, stop making things up". So... yeah... my mother can be quite the "hard lover" kind. It did hurt. Mainly because it hurts growing up, realizing your super parents can be wrong. But also because you know, pride. Years later after this story, thanks for the video. I will forward it to my mother. Let's say, just because it's interesting and I just want to share interesting things :p I doubt she'll remember the story. But the kid inside me will be very pleased. Because you know. Pride ;-)
@enysuntra1347
@enysuntra1347 Жыл бұрын
So you're a lion? :-P Well, reading your comment here could give her a hint.
@Tmanaz480
@Tmanaz480 Жыл бұрын
Lol... "Hard lover" is an interesting twist on "tough love". English is crazy.
@CBlargh
@CBlargh Жыл бұрын
Les mots collectifs ne sont pas très utiles, mais je pense qu'ils sont fascinants! _"Murder"!?_ o_O Pourquoi!? C'est complètement fou!
@DocBree13
@DocBree13 Жыл бұрын
@@Tmanaz480 I was going to make the same comment :)
@DocBree13
@DocBree13 Жыл бұрын
I feel second-hand vindication for you :) I hope she does remember when you tell her ❤
@DGA2000
@DGA2000 Ай бұрын
Collectives even spill over to things and ideas. A conglomeration of pots and pans or a battery of tests and a hail of bullets coming at you as examples. I love making them up and one I'm particularly proud of is a cube of sugar daddys 😅
@ChiaraOhneLink
@ChiaraOhneLink 2 ай бұрын
6:30 Germans also have the Word "Welpe" for a joung Dog, like in the Book. We also use the Word "Schule" (School) for Groups of Fish or Whales and other often female leaded Mammals, like Elephants. I also heared the Word "Pflock" for Sheep. In German, Pflock is a pointed wooden Stake, used in building Fences or killing Vampires.
@smivan.
@smivan. Жыл бұрын
I've actually heard "a business of ferrets" on multiple occasions, so that one is definitely in use.
@meruluss
@meruluss Жыл бұрын
Likewise for me with "a crash of rhinos"
@tiyenin
@tiyenin Жыл бұрын
Whether etymologically sound or created out of thin air, repetition begets commonality begets thus being "real" words. Just ask "normalcy" - appropriated from math(s) by US prez Warren G. Harding as a neologistic synonym for "normality" - or the personally devastating "should of."
@StamfordBridge
@StamfordBridge Жыл бұрын
Multiple occasions? So you’re saying it’s “business” as usual?
@clwest3538
@clwest3538 Жыл бұрын
Must be a ferret owner thing - had a friend who owned 2 - said if he had one more he would have a business of ferrets (first time I heard the term) .... we joked for a while on how the two ferrets were already into all his 'business' ...
@forthrightgambitia1032
@forthrightgambitia1032 Жыл бұрын
A mullet is the collective term for a group of weasel fighters
@bearwoody
@bearwoody Жыл бұрын
Although I'm unsure of their origin, while in Africa a tour guide indicated that giraffe have two collective nouns. While standing still, they are called a Tower of Giraffe, and while walking as a group they are called a Journey of Giraffe. Whether centuries old or of more recent origin, I think they're beautiful
@GettinSadda
@GettinSadda Ай бұрын
There was a very funny sketch on the show “Not the 9o’clock news” where they invented “A Flange of Baboons” and apparently this has been taken up to some extent by those studying them.
@tobycatVA
@tobycatVA 2 ай бұрын
This explains where "eleven leopards leaping came from." in "The 12 Days of Christmas" song.
@DalokiMauvais
@DalokiMauvais Ай бұрын
Leopards? I never heard that before - or are you joking? There are various versions out there that switch around the last 3 or 4 groups, but the one I learned has "Eleven pipers piping" and "Ten lords a-leaping."
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