Flat Defense has proven to be useful for a change. Just finished grinding my last Icaru, I'm gonna max out my Defense tower, the three of 'em have 3300 precise Defense, I calculated everything and I'm really excited. Can't wait to max out the tower, even if it would mean refilling like crazy to accelerate the process, lol.
@moist_soup72153 жыл бұрын
That is all the runes the dungeons drop for me except main stat
@Orygiri3 жыл бұрын
Bet you still don't have them lol
@Kain_Highwind_3 жыл бұрын
@@Orygiri My team is ready, if you're asking. xD
@andreaparadisi44353 жыл бұрын
Thanks Island for the video, i really enjoyed! I will try to build this team but of course the best part is that i never use guard runes but i had a lot of those and a week before the japanese youtuber release this insane team i sold them all. I'm so happy i'm gonna cry in the corner :)
@koreannidalee153 жыл бұрын
For people without max tower, i think the math is 20% of 736 = 147.2 that is the bonus u have from the tower, now do the percentage with your tower level, for example 10% ( 73.6) u do the difference between 147.2 and 73.6 and it will give you the number u have to add to 2416 - u will need 2490 if u only have half level of the tower (pls correct me if i am wrong)
@kideiji583 жыл бұрын
I think I must farm db12 more to get those guard runes to build this team. Oh wait...
@soulawaken243 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought when I saw those stats on the original video! 😭 Those Verde runes are no joke too actually! 2k bonus attack is doable, but together with 100CR and 200+ CD? 😥😥 I think I'll just stick to trying to get a 90s f2p tatu team 🤣
@maskofboom10673 жыл бұрын
soulawaken you don't need this verde. The guy made a follow-up video on twitter using this team with verde's slot 6 rune removed. It still worked. And you can get determination runes instead to build the icaru.
@soulawaken243 жыл бұрын
@@maskofboom1067 Cool! Thanks for the info!
@simonsmn34913 жыл бұрын
@@silentbillkelly7276 dunno if thats just a repost or not but i got this from a guildy: twitter.com/tigiriori/status/1305140202722086912?s=20
@Swain4963 жыл бұрын
Just summoned a 4* awakened Icaru, currently working on 2A on my 1st one lol (need runes rho)
@JonaThan-zc7iv3 жыл бұрын
Me: ooh thats easy, only have to farm some dragons to get some guard runes Also me: wait...
@rylusgeosantiago48413 жыл бұрын
mid game players be like: time to keep this shity def runes ang flat grinds :)
@amzrelax81243 жыл бұрын
those spell signs on icaru is just making me feel like its gonna evolve to garurumon
@thelazt163 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, but you did 1 thing wrong, you need to make the 1st icaru +84 speed or more so you get 15 turn before boss move and 4 more before imunity, with those 70+ runes you only get 14 before boss and 4 before imunity, just because you miss some grind. FYI you don't really need all 3 on +70+ speed you just need 1 over 84 and the other over 61, to get the 15/4 turn, or 1 over 84 and the other over 48 so you can get the 14/4 version.
@DARDYSKUXXFELLa2 жыл бұрын
I have one at +85, +83 & +66 with verde +32 speeds and i get 14 moves before boss moves. Am I missing something not too sure 100% crit rate verde and icaru's all pull every unit.
@kemoyjohnson43333 жыл бұрын
Yo IslandGrown I would like for you to build the fire gargoyle and give him triple determination(ally def +8%) and see if this dungeon runs the same way. The fire gargoyle's passive turns himself into a statue if he has more than 70% hp when his turn ends. So in theory once he gets a turn he'll always turn into statue and he'll go first in the team that way the Icarus wont team up with him. The key to using this unit is the triple determination set he will carry which provides 24% ally def which will lower the rune requirements.
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
tl:dr: Just no! Ok now let's see why it doesn't work. Fire gargoyle is put in statue state if she end her turn with more than 70% hp. In statue state she receive 30% less dmg and can't co-op with other monster. Seem to be a good idea since you don't put a 5th monster because he could co-op and mess everything's up. The idea with this monster is to put her with 3 fight set or 3 determination set to lower even more the requirement of the team. But in order for this to work you will have to get the gargoyle the fastest in your team, this way she can end her turn and get statue state before inu start to co-op. Before we start i just want to point out that when gargoyle play, verde don't atk, so no +40% atb and no dmg. But dragon and tower get's ticks. The first issue we find is having statue effect after dragon hit ( having more than 70% hp, since dragon put 3 turn's dot, left tower too, (mean -30% hp) and dragon do dmg. So we have different solution: Don't let dragon play. We will see later but this is the worst idea, since you will have less turn before dragon play if you play the gargoyle. It's better to have less dmg verde that can tank first hit. Make gargoyle killed by first dragon hit, since most ppl want to put her in determination + her tanky base stats + (maybe other determination on icaru) + -30% dmg from her statue effect. I'm not even sure it is possible. Make gargoyle have more than 70% hp after dragon hit, read above about dot, it will be hard too, and will take good enought determination set so you can put them on icaru lul. OK let's imagine you find a way about the issue above. What is spd requirement ? Well i've put the txt file bellow (spd is gargoyle/inu1/inu2/inu3/verde) (this is when gargoyle don't die after dragon first hit): drive.google.com/file/d/1mNFBW5HYMaYeUb7jeVzoXxfo1YlEW0DA/view?usp=sharing We can see here that in order to have 12 5 11 turn before enemy's play you will need 111-89-73-73-86 spd. +111 SPD ON TRASH UNIT with full determination xd, good luck. instead of 84/61/61/0 for 3 more atk,( team without the gargoyle), so higher spd requirement for less atk on boss. If you have trouble reaching enought def on icaru, look for blue determination on slot 1/3/5 with def flat/ def% / acc or spd. (any other sub is useless for icaru's ) Hope this is detailled enought !
@himlerwagner82443 жыл бұрын
@@shinedday6298 nice
@Syrxen3 жыл бұрын
@@shinedday6298 Isn't crit useful for icaru too?
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
@@Syrxen not at all for a first team
@makkc.81383 жыл бұрын
and here my Loren never strips the Dragon's immunity .. lols
@Kain_Highwind_3 жыл бұрын
It was my same problem, that's why I started building my 3 Icarus. It's really, really worth it. I was really angry knowing I couldn't beat B12 after years of B10, so I think I'm gonna build this team to literally destroy it.
@makkc.81383 жыл бұрын
@@Kain_Highwind_ that's why I'm thinking on building this or Rock On Light Homunculus + 2 Raoq
@Kain_Highwind_3 жыл бұрын
@@makkc.8138 I feel like I wouldn't resolve my problem using Rock On Homu + 2 Raoqs, because it strictly depends on runes and towers. I think I'm gonna go Icaru because is pure math: among every element in the dungeon, the Dragon is the only enemy that gets a turn. After that, you win. :P
@leodeiters74863 жыл бұрын
1:14 ,,The AI of the Icarus will always chose to do teamup." 1:17 Nani?
@Pelado3653 жыл бұрын
the first icaru was the last one to move on the previous stage, no ally teamups means no cooldown reduction so it didn´t have the cd of skill 2 yet, it´s not a big problem since the following icarus will have the cd on skill 2 and start the team combo But good to know that it might be better to have 2 icarus over the 180 minimum spd in case that happens
@kzshiro3 жыл бұрын
I think people sometimes forget determination set can help lower rune requirements if you have enough sets
@MrPoyoshi3 жыл бұрын
Cheat Code: Test the build on your 2a Bella, she only has 11 more def than Icaru. If you can hit the numbers on her, you'll be fine.
@Liquicityms3 жыл бұрын
I used raviti
@janosdavidpapp32063 жыл бұрын
this is the best video so far what ive seem on ur channel. this is incredible. i wist to see more tutorial from you for mid-early late players. i will try to hit the stats cuz im a db10 fanatic. btw ive found a team to myself after couple hundreds of crystals reset what is pretty consistent half speed team. 1:50avg only failed once from about 3000crystar reset: verde loren raoq shaina and martina focusing crystals ok stage 2
@GaniEmi3 жыл бұрын
by the time i finish awakening 3 ikarus c2us will nerf the IA to randomly use s1 instead of always using s2 when up
@donwebster92923 жыл бұрын
Wrong this time.
@anarchysp79433 жыл бұрын
FYI if youre using a full guard set its only blue runes... youll only need 20% def from slot 3&5.. super easy... a weaker verde does the job too just make sure it a little bit tanky to survive one hit from dragon
@dotaultimate66073 жыл бұрын
For reall tho?i wanna try this db12 team tho,even my db11 team isnt 100 win lmao🤣
@EdgeR23 жыл бұрын
imagine when everyone builds icaru for this they change the dungeons again
@narwinsingh78803 жыл бұрын
Exactly LOL
@yieska3 жыл бұрын
I will only made 1 lol, y prefer 3 raoqs
@WonsOibaf3 жыл бұрын
They never chenged bj5.. Sooo
@OmegaDestiny3 жыл бұрын
@@WonsOibaf yet
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
@@OmegaDestiny and they won't lul, they added artefact that made bj5 so much easier, i mean 200 atk + at least 10% cd
@newlife71953 жыл бұрын
Thx for video! Currently working in 1st ikaru
@scottie_wayne3 жыл бұрын
You can always use the RTA monster runing location to see if you can build 3 of em as well. Save mana!
@Bigk3 жыл бұрын
Ngl Island speaks so fast I thought I have my audio sped up to 1.25x 😂😂😂
@GameWithSwayne3 жыл бұрын
He really does talk so fast lol. im from oahu too and most of my short/tiny asian friends talk exactly like him.
@robprice46153 жыл бұрын
lol i remember when he built this...he was like...dont build it...it was a mistake..finally can use it.
@jones16253 жыл бұрын
yeah i REMEMBER :D now he build 3 of this "dont built it"
@Rossi-oe3ou3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I’ve seen is use determination runes instead of guard is this better or not
@HaiYamato3 жыл бұрын
bring Fire Gargolve with 3 set ally 8% def buff (24%) for the last slot, if you don't have enough defend for all 3 Icaru.
@cruistz3 жыл бұрын
IslandGrown 4 months ago (edited) I guess im wrong Icaru isn't bad.....its REALLY bad! xD Love the video man! Just curious do you recommend NOT building anything? Asking for a friend :P
@HardstylerJosh3 жыл бұрын
Icaru stats; Defense +2416 Def if your Def tower is maxed (2/4/6 def) Acc 40% suggested Spd 1st Icaru needs 180 total speed, the rest just need to be faster than verde HP Not really important, boss may go once so +5k HP suggested Verde stats; Attack: +2000, lots (sets dont matter) CR; 100% CD; As much as you can get, Island has 206 Spd; +30 min, with maxed spd tower Extra info; Rune sets dont matter, focus on sets Factor in guild skills for def Guard/Blade sets may help Determination runes & skill up icaru will lower stats required Slot 3 def helps Artifact stats and subs can help === Hope this makes it easier for you guys to understand! Thx Island!
@soulawaken243 жыл бұрын
Good summary! Just one correction according to the original video! I think 2416 is the number you need if you're not in a maxed out guild! If you're in a maxed out guild, you need +2381? Maybe the 35 def might make a difference to a couple of players out there xD Or just join a guild LOL
@HardstylerJosh3 жыл бұрын
@@soulawaken24 I saw that in the twitch chat too, but the convos were going back and forth so I didnt bother but thanks for bringing it up!
@charleslincoln53573 жыл бұрын
Do your tower apply to your stats when u are looking at em or do they apply after or while u are using
@noodlesRawsome243 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Raoq On! strat? Aced it gaming did a vid on it and it looked pretty cool, was hoping to see a video on it from other yt peeps but no one else has made one, what are your thoughts on it? (oh and its basically 2 Raoqs and 1 Light homie with Rock on as its s3)
@MrCyanblood3 жыл бұрын
can you add fire gargoyle to this team? he won't use the team up because of his passive, but will that ruin the tick timing? I was thinking of using a full determination set to lower the requirement
@KnightOfTheWindSonic3 жыл бұрын
Smart! And if he goes first there will be no problem right?🤔 someone who tested this pls answer
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
tl:dr: Just no! Ok now let's see why it doesn't work. Fire gargoyle is put in statue state if she end her turn with more than 70% hp. In statue state she receive 30% less dmg and can't co-op with other monster. Seem to be a good idea since you don't put a 5th monster because he could co-op and mess everything's up. The idea with this monster is to put her with 3 fight set or 3 determination set to lower even more the requirement of the team. But in order for this to work you will have to get the gargoyle the fastest in your team, this way she can end her turn and get statue state before inu start to co-op. Before we start i just want to point out that when gargoyle play, verde don't atk, so no +40% atb and no dmg. But dragon and tower get's ticks. The first issue we find is having statue effect after dragon hit ( having more than 70% hp, since dragon put 3 turn's dot, left tower too, (mean -30% hp) and dragon do dmg. So we have different solution: Don't let dragon play. We will see later but this is the worst idea, since you will have less turn before dragon play if you play the gargoyle. It's better to have less dmg verde that can tank first hit. Make gargoyle killed by first dragon hit, since most ppl want to put her in determination + her tanky base stats + (maybe other determination on icaru) + -30% dmg from her statue effect. I'm not even sure it is possible. Make gargoyle have more than 70% hp after dragon hit, read above about dot, it will be hard too, and will take good enought determination set so you can put them on icaru lul. OK let's imagine you find a way about the issue above. What is spd requirement ? Well i've put the txt file bellow (spd is gargoyle/inu1/inu2/inu3/verde) (this is when gargoyle don't die after dragon first hit): drive.google.com/file/d/1mNFBW5HYMaYeUb7jeVzoXxfo1YlEW0DA/view?usp=sharing We can see here that in order to have 12 5 11 turn before enemy's play you will need 111-89-73-73-86 spd. +111 SPD ON TRASH UNIT with full determination xd, good luck. instead of 84/61/61/0 for 3 more atk,( team without the gargoyle), so higher spd requirement for less atk on boss. If you have trouble reaching enought def on icaru, look for blue determination on slot 1/3/5 with def flat/ def% / acc or spd. (any other sub is useless for icaru's ) Hope this is detailled enought !
@MrCyanblood3 жыл бұрын
@@shinedday6298 ah ok thnx
@caleblee93543 жыл бұрын
saw u came 123 to ask for inu sd last time! Come visit us more often! Nice vid bryan!
@nicolsrojas21823 жыл бұрын
The +2416 plus defense is actually not considering guild 5% bonus, if you take this into account you only nieed +2380 plus defense, in the original video one of the icarus has +2390 defense and still brings the whole team up
@logand17263 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you! I am now sad that I did not choose the reapp I got the other day that quad rolled flat defense xD
@fravo54013 жыл бұрын
have an idea... it might be possible to replace verd with lapis for even faster runs, no? would love to test it, but im too far away from 3 icarus x)
@superfly2310003 жыл бұрын
No, verd is crucial here for his atb increase
@omarwalwan3 жыл бұрын
I remember when island struggled to make icaru team up with 2 units 😂 this team is great, i dont think i can make it, but I'll try to see if i have the runes before i 2a them
@marcosramirez22783 жыл бұрын
Using the fire gargoyle with all determination runes and having him go first really helps with defense rune requirements due to the gargoyles passive
@codygalbraith33703 жыл бұрын
Yo I also built icaru and I use him a lot actually, fast despair and as leader. He in seige def only c3 had 15 wins 6 losses, granted only c3 seige but still icaru is something I love using and was my first 2a
@aldothelizard66693 жыл бұрын
Omg you are right, it's easy to rune, what makes it hard is those runes are usually sold immediately bcs "trash"
@aldothelizard66693 жыл бұрын
Ngl kinda wanna use time machine to prevent my past me to sell those def% runes lol
@IcarusLP3 жыл бұрын
Good to mention that this team is 100% f2p since you can get Icaru from Garen forrest.
@dagger33523 жыл бұрын
is this team working on TOA too?
@glorious48533 жыл бұрын
Hey IslandGrown. I can see alot of old players coming back to the game. Can you make a guide on beginner teams for gb12,db12 and necro 12.
@misbahul90443 жыл бұрын
If you include slot 3 and 2 artifact with defense maxed. With slot 246 deff% 6* You still need around 90% total deff/640 deff in total If you arent using guard or flat deff. Splitting the 45% sub to slot 3 and 5 is impossible but by like adding 2 guard set and a deff flat sub with +50 deff will help you like a lot. From splitting 45% to 20-25% deff per sub. And definetely will get less if you have more flat defenses around Building this one particular dog actually not that easy haha 🤣🤣🤣
@zacharyc.37093 жыл бұрын
1:13 "The AI of these units will always use team up" *Uses S1*
@tikstiks70373 жыл бұрын
first dog's team up on boss is on cooldown.
@thisnoodlehead73073 жыл бұрын
Cant u like use a second verde in 5th slot for more dmg? I have 7 verded built and 3 are cd
@Orygiri3 жыл бұрын
More than 4 will make it fail, if u have 5, 1 of tge icarus skill 2 will not be up when they get their turn
@Dani_RdM3 жыл бұрын
How does this Verde fares in Punishers? Same thing or does the team needs adjustments?
@MichaelHarrington883 жыл бұрын
Is there a good single or double icaru team you can use while you're building up the rest of them?
@pedigreeowns3 жыл бұрын
double icaru double raoq
@potatomatop93263 жыл бұрын
Me: *builds 3 icarus for 100% runs* Me: *forgets i've been using a cheat hack martina*
@alrhassan31243 жыл бұрын
martina best girl
@JonaThan-zc7iv3 жыл бұрын
Hey what team do you run with her? Still having some issues altho im using her
@alrhassan31243 жыл бұрын
@@JonaThan-zc7iv shaine martina loren verde fran
@potatomatop93263 жыл бұрын
@@JonaThan-zc7iv shaina martina raoq raoq raoq
@jordangramer21453 жыл бұрын
@@JonaThan-zc7iv verde spectra loren talia martina gets consistent sub 2 mins, hasnt failed me yet
@maximiliancunningham65983 жыл бұрын
Just did the math. If all 3 are on full determination runes, all you need assuming you have all def% and maxed artifacts is 294 from subs or about 41%
@pedigreeowns3 жыл бұрын
is this including a plus 15 slot 3
@maximiliancunningham65983 жыл бұрын
@@pedigreeowns No it isn't good point. I failed to take that into account. I guess that sets the real amount from subs at just 134 which is equivalent to just under 19%.
@yoelezequieldemedici25453 жыл бұрын
I just wondering: if you lower the 2nd and 3rd Icaru, and the first one kills the last enemy in the round before the boss, he will get to the boss with the Team up on CD and probably get a worst boss run. Idk how much you could slow the 2nd icaru. The 3rd one should be safe cause the 2nd should always have the team up if the first used it before the change of stage... i think.
@tpmVoid3 жыл бұрын
guys if u wanna see if u can reach stats Molly and triton have same def
@labaleine10703 жыл бұрын
Wait +2420? It’s +2380 with tower and guild bonus
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
You need 3300 after guild + building so if you have enevything maxed 2380 is enough
@bellebr3 жыл бұрын
you just need +2380 def with max towers for icaru team up with 3 allies
@diogooliveira26973 жыл бұрын
One question its 2416 def + plus glory tower max? Or is the glory tower + def = 2416?
@mervin92203 жыл бұрын
imagine if COM2US removes all teamups "reduce cooldown" because of this comp
@skelly41973 жыл бұрын
i would feed my sylvia if that happens
@erix943 жыл бұрын
That would mean removing a mechanic from game, it would be too much. The only thing they could do is nerfing icaru or making him bring max 2 people or higher cd on skill 2
@soulawaken243 жыл бұрын
This would be really really bad! I wouldn't mind if they do it specifically to nerf Icaru! Since triple Icaru teams require mid-late game runesets (*Unless you specifically farmed for those runes really early on) But if it affects Raoq and Kro, it's gonna piss people off! 😒 Many early-mid game players are using those two units for consistent DB12, SF10 and PC10! 🤦♂️ It's gonna affect the consistency of their runs
@Jinger29103 жыл бұрын
@@soulawaken24 they won't do something like that lol the cost for this team is not something anyone can make and few months later people will strive for 40sec teams and build a different one again
@rickfelicia55893 жыл бұрын
Honestly i dont think com2us would mind us using a cheese strat for db12. Remember when bjr5 was made? They didnt do anything about it
@ShawnMadeInUSA3 жыл бұрын
Hi IslandGrown, I got a serious question. Is it wise to bring chow as leader, with triple icaru and a Verdehile?
@olegentzsch33013 жыл бұрын
No cuz u will mess up the loop, if the icaru will team up once with chow u will most likely loose
@TheFrodoBaggins333 жыл бұрын
thing is making this team requires building not just one icaru, but three. Which is a ton of dimensional hole energy better spent on farming runes/grinds or making more versatile 2a. Seems like a fun team tho regardless, even if other teams are just as consistent
@entropicplays1623 жыл бұрын
I mean, you build this team after you've built everything else you need to build. If you can achieve a consistent team without then it's just as good though, but it's difficult since controlling the tower or the dragon is a bit RNG reliant and may sometimes fail just because of that. I some good teams that would be 100% consistent without the RNG for example.
@HardstylerJosh3 жыл бұрын
Important question; Can this verde be used in other pve dungeons? Or do we need to build another
@micahpaul8063 жыл бұрын
From what Ive seen It's a rage revenge/blade Verde 100cr 190+cd and it's slow enough to be last so you can use it in most PvP content if you want
@soulawaken243 жыл бұрын
That depends on whether your other pve dungeons require a faster verde? Most probably not? Since verde is primarily mandatory only in DB12 and MAYBE PC10? PC10 should be fine even if the verde is slower than before provided you got the right team to begin with!
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
same team work in nb12 if you have strong enought verde
@victorarredondonarciso14193 жыл бұрын
If you want to prove if you can reach the icaru stats you can try to rune units with similar base Def, Triton have the same base Def for example
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
Or just with swop :3
@Orygiri3 жыл бұрын
If ever com2us would try to fix this, the smartest way to do so is not to nerf icaru, but to nerf verd passive by reducing the atb by a teeny bit. That alone would increase the stat requirement of dps because the enemies could cut sooner.
@soulawaken243 жыл бұрын
Why would they do that? Nerfing a super rarely used unit is still better than nerfing a unit that 99% of players use in some way 🤦♂️ If they cap teamup at 2 straight out, this team won't work at 100% rate anymore!
@86worldzapart913 жыл бұрын
it would be great if they make icarus's s1 dmg is base on defense
@sssongoten64393 жыл бұрын
Why do they need to have an extra 2416 def? Is it bad if its only 2000 def
@SoraJack3 жыл бұрын
The number of allies Icaru brings relies on how much defense he has. 2416 allows him to bring 3 others.
@Ivan-nv6qg3 жыл бұрын
use determination set for first doggo. then the balance does not need so much stats
@cayk8443 жыл бұрын
Cool video!
@Jimmy_993 жыл бұрын
Ttiton has the same def stat as 2a Icaru so you can try to get those stats on Triton if you have one and not finished Icaru 2a yet, maybe there are more than just Triton but Idk
@danielerusso58003 жыл бұрын
does it work putting 3 set of determination runes on each icarus?
@JamesSCA3 жыл бұрын
for all yall asking if this works instead of this, then yall obviously dont understand how this team works, even if its being explained lol, realistically its not hard to rune the icarus, runing the verde would be the challenge or runing all 3 icaru, most people should be able to at least rune 1 icaru no problem. Before committing to build this team, highly recommend using swop and see if you even have the runes for this, if you do then its probably a good investment. 1. frees up your vio runes from verde, 2. if done correctly its a 100% team. If you watch the original video the dragon actually doesn't even move, but as Island says you can still have less dmg and have drag move once and still clear it at 100%
@Jaap127873 жыл бұрын
how much plus defense would I need if i have max Guild but only 10% on defense tower?
@edszy72723 жыл бұрын
hoping that build 2A monster can be faster so that it can boost new players as well as mid game players :)
@Triggerboy783 жыл бұрын
According to reddit you need +2381 def for 3man teamup with max tower and guild. old.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/irstd4/total_defense_needed_on_icaru_for_3_unit_teamup/
@benso873 жыл бұрын
The defense minimum you said is incorrect. It's actually 2381 if you have max towers and the max guild bonus. What people should know is that you need more than 3300 defense after bonuses to get the full team up effect.
@taorroarcano76263 жыл бұрын
1:53 lol
@demonsouls95093 жыл бұрын
Helped alot thanks
@Minslocker3 жыл бұрын
Hi I have one question, could we change the Guard Runes to the Determination Runes?
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
Yes
@raffbro713 жыл бұрын
why no double crit dmg verde for more damage?
@WonsOibaf3 жыл бұрын
U can see on the Japanese guy, he tested 2 verdes.. Not safe
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
tl:dr why would you want to play with 5 ppl when it work with 4 ..... // i still need to improve this part and actualy run the programm but i'm too lazy for tonight to prove that it doesn't work. Right so here we go again. Some people think that putting 2 verde would do the same as 1 and lower rune requirement. Let's run some test to see what happen: Icaru takes 2 icaru and 1 verde ( like the normal team but 1 verde will be fatter than the other one so for this turn you only have 1/2 chance to make lower dmg) Icaru co-op with 2 verde. Meanning one icaru won't have cooldown reduction but you will give 80% atb. If we stop here its the same as the other team (one inu will do skill 1 but verde's have atked twice) BUT if because one inu do skill1 others won't have cooldown reduction either, which break the cycle. With the other team verde atk every turn so even if the cycle never break you will lose dmg since one verde would do less dmg than the other. To conclude it add's a lot of rng, 2 big nuker set instead of one and don't improve anything.
@linkmax53743 жыл бұрын
determination will give you 8% on all monster so if you put one in each icaru you will get 24% for all the Icaru and the Verdehile where the Guard will is 15% for the monster that have the rune so I believe 2 determination and one fight or 3 determination is the best way to build for icaru the only problem is that the determination runes are harder to get then guard
@RengokuOnigiri84133 жыл бұрын
How work the cooldown of icaru skill 2 i dont understand. He dont have the raok passif. Explain me plz xd
@brettdignadice37453 жыл бұрын
Dude how did u make icaru aura like circling like yours.. can u give me some tips..
@heung-jonsoon71033 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, what is your podcast called?
@simonsmn34913 жыл бұрын
I have build this team too. I have one question when you say the icarus need +2416 def is it possible u did not fakctor in the guild dungeon stats? Cuz i tested it in dragons and i can get away with bout +2380 def
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
You need 3300 def in total in the end if you have building + guild +2380 in enought
@savagelove19393 жыл бұрын
Can I get the runes needed in db10? coz I can't do db12 yet
@hestajevel3 жыл бұрын
I saw a question about what would happen if you have two verde. I guess sometimes one of the icaru wont get cd reduce, but on the other hand you get more atk bar boost. Maybe doesnt matter in the end though...
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
2 verde is stupid, since if inu's takes 2 verde 1 inu won't have cd reset + in order to kill the boss you will need 2 fat verde.
@hestajevel3 жыл бұрын
@@shinedday6298 yeah, that was my concern too
@alonfire13373 жыл бұрын
I already see ppl fail with their Copper/Bulldozer Teams because they forgot that they removed the runes to build this Team. Really sad day for alle the Copper / Bullldozers in the world.
@XPuntar3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if my team is 100% but man! It just below 3 minute mark. It haven't failed yet in around 90 or so runs. Verde, Ken, 2A Spectra, Loren and Elsharion
@Buffceliaplz3 жыл бұрын
Actually u need +2380 def with max arena and guild ^^
@theplaygue3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why mine worked fine with +2410.
@TheKillerMB13 жыл бұрын
building a 2nd roaq atm but after that ill build the 2 icaru's XD (already have 1)
@Gus-hb8oy3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm; i was calculated, if you have max guild lvl, max def totem and all icaru rune with determination rune (def def def) max, u only need 46-47% of def on substat to have icaru stat at 2420 so if u have a lot of motivation to rune them like that, the stat requierment is pretty low
@tatcathudientu3 жыл бұрын
Have problem with vampire and non critdame tower + no full skill
@kopiohui8643 жыл бұрын
Are all the Icarus and Verde full skilled up ?
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
only verde need skill up , icaru don't do dmg
@AmonForatto3 жыл бұрын
is it 2416 +def with max tower?
@clausekinncaparida80963 жыл бұрын
so sw bot is allowed by com2us?
@mohdsuffianroslan29053 жыл бұрын
I do all 2A inu, because i know, there are no unit that is useless at all, and i save Christina rather than feed it. Even that is the worst nat 5 in the game
@engFilipedeMelo3 жыл бұрын
Can this team work in necro!? Answer me pls!
@TheFrodoBaggins333 жыл бұрын
no cus verde doesn't work in necro
@anarchysp79433 жыл бұрын
it works just fine - the creator of this team showed a video of it on his twitter
@matthewtan3 жыл бұрын
It works. I tried it. It takes about 1:15 for me
@kaskusio84993 жыл бұрын
@IslandGrown, can you try it with Lapis instead of Verde
@shinedday62983 жыл бұрын
Won't work, verde give atb, lapis reduce atb so there is res check (rng is comming), plus if you can't kill before immu you won't reduce atb.
@josephartamanfajardo87513 жыл бұрын
I have the Icaru team that fails(Not consistent)! 1st icaru - with 180 spd which they say it is recommended to run first. All 3 icaru's at 2.4k + DEF. Only Lv6 DEF tower, No ATK and CD tower yet and no skill ups yet on VERDE but stats is +2024 ATK, +5 315 HP, +201 DEF +10 spd, CR 100% and CD 171, with ARTI +100 ATK on both. (All icarus atk with other 3 no issue). I guess i have the very first icaru team THAT FAILS! Aahhahahahaa
I'm in the mid-game now farming DB12! I think the best way is to not try to build the team specifically! Just farm the dungeons with what you have. When you come across good guard/determination runes, save it for Icarus and 2A them slowly in the meantime! When you gather good enough runes for all 3 2A Icarus, put together your best damage set on verde and switch over! That's my plan anyway 🤣
@MalalFazy33 жыл бұрын
actually it wasn't far back when people would build many water chakram dancers for db10 right? what happened to that? yeah... stoooooooraged
@a1_galaxy6843 жыл бұрын
Btw I said “Rip” because I just wanted to write a comment btw nice video
@chrono9233 жыл бұрын
All I need for speed db12 is a roaq with +3000 attack, 100 crit rate, and 100,000 crit damage
@cabbage_patch3 жыл бұрын
Whg 2416 how did you come up with that. Number
@kruegerrtv19603 жыл бұрын
Here's my triple icaru for triple dungeon with f2p runes video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9eKYLF6rpvXlmQ.html
@blackkyurem7203 жыл бұрын
You're gonna need +2764 def if your glory def tower is at 0 and you don't have any guild def% buffs.
@stangalexander8003 жыл бұрын
Can someone swap the runes of an Icaru on an unawakened 3star Inugami to show the stats so i can try to rune up 3 inugamis to see if i have good runes for that team or not. That would be really helpfull. Thank you!!!