Create a BIG Symphonic Sound in 7 Minutes (Easy to Follow)

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How to Write for Orchestra - Step by Step Orchestration, helping your music to get that big, Hollywood, symphonic sound. Sound like a Hollywood composer and learn to orchestrate well. .
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0:00 - Introduction
0:38 - Orchestrating that Big Hollywood Sound (Step By Step)

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@niels.brouwer
@niels.brouwer 3 жыл бұрын
'A bass trombone blasting it out'. As a bass trombonist that's the type of passage I'm looking forward to the most, and that the celli in front of me dread the most.
@harrisfrankou2368
@harrisfrankou2368 2 жыл бұрын
Needs a series be a great character study a great Comedy/Drama..I can relate to Spinal Tap only.
@KarlRKaiser
@KarlRKaiser 2 жыл бұрын
...but then they get to play in almost every movement, throughout, while the blasty instruments count a lot of rests ;-)
@hoangkimviet8545
@hoangkimviet8545 3 жыл бұрын
The man: "Sorry, Gustav." Mahler: "Don't worry, my music has appeared in many films."
@homard6174
@homard6174 3 жыл бұрын
my man Mahler is actually the god father of film music
@GUPRPEET-Singh
@GUPRPEET-Singh 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha.... 👍 Nice observation
@FreakieFan
@FreakieFan 3 жыл бұрын
@@homard6174 You can say that about virtually all romantic composers, and far more so about composers that actually wrote a lot of incidental or programmatic music, which Mahler, besides Das Lied von der Erde, didn't really do.
@homard6174
@homard6174 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreakieFan there is a programmatic nature in Mahler's symphonies especially 1,2, 3, 6, and 8. By the meaning of the godfather of film music, I mean Maher's usage of brass, post-romantic orchestral, and the excessive component of the choir. I also must admit that Mahler is the most popular one among this genre. Wagner and Berlioz, symphonically and musical influentially, have contributed to the style of film music the most
@FreakieFan
@FreakieFan 3 жыл бұрын
@@homard6174 Again, virtually all late-Romantic composers wrote reams of music that was programmatic in nature. So that's not a selling point. I absolutely love Mahler, but singling him out as the "godfather of film music" just because he wrote "epic" symphonies, seems a bit ridiculous to me, and dismissive of so, so many other composers.
@PopeLOLEK
@PopeLOLEK 3 жыл бұрын
I took an orchestration course in college and this was what I wanted. This video was more concise and specific with how to actually use each instrument.
@Az-jt2zp
@Az-jt2zp 3 жыл бұрын
brilliant video, i had to hit the like button when those trumpets came in
@swessels
@swessels 3 жыл бұрын
Inspirational composition. Your enthusiasm is great. Thank you for this.
@thomasdavis8117
@thomasdavis8117 3 жыл бұрын
This is really good though I will offer one point as an experienced low brass writer and that is that in real orchestras bass trombone and tuba will always be more powerful in octaves, funnily enough it doesn't matter which one is on top as long as they are in octaves.
@KarlRKaiser
@KarlRKaiser 3 жыл бұрын
Octaves are used at both ends of the pitch spectrum for bigger sound. Celli and Basses are often in octaves on the low end and a common use of violins in peak passages is doubling between the first and second sections at an octave. ...and piccolos doubling flutes when the drama heats up.
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 3 жыл бұрын
do you mean they behave similar like cello and ctb?
@thomasdavis8117
@thomasdavis8117 3 жыл бұрын
@@emanuel_soundtrack They don't have to be in octaves in all situations and they certainly don't have to play the same parts but if they are going to play the same line then they sound more powerful in octaves.
@christiaandemarezoyens4720
@christiaandemarezoyens4720 2 жыл бұрын
I heartily agree. Found the example in this video a bit too bombastic and that using octaves would have been a better choice.
@melaD333
@melaD333 3 жыл бұрын
@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="490">8:10</a> Me: oh I kinda got chills You: it’s a bit silly 😂
@ActorFlautista
@ActorFlautista 3 жыл бұрын
Why was this video too short!? 😰 I wanted to see what you did with the rest of it. 😭 Can you make this a series? A "How to Compose..." series? I loved every second of this! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
@moritzrein2907
@moritzrein2907 3 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="163">2:43</a> Well, but, in a traditional symphony orchestra, there usually is a set of Timpanis. So, the "timpanist" could play the bassline easily (notice that many modern timpanis have a kind of "tuning paddle")
@richirare
@richirare 3 жыл бұрын
In deed but don't forget that the timpanist will mute the timpani between notes to avoid a glissando effect, so it is important to keep that in mind if that if you have a thinner texture there will be a slight detached sound in quick passages that rely on one single tympanum. So overall, yes tuning pedals are the standard nowadays and should be taken for granted the same as low B on a double bass.
@DaveDexterMusic
@DaveDexterMusic 3 жыл бұрын
There'd be four, 99% of the time. I used to write timpani parts that followed the bassline, but it's simply not practical or really possible unless you know you have a really specialist timpanist in your session or performance. This bass part has seven notes, and that's unrealistic. Good idiomatic timpani writing has the timps set to four note, ideally in the centre of their range for best timbre, and then gives time for retuning. Off the top of my head, this bassline would be better tuned as: Root (G#), root (A#), 3rd (G#), 3rd (A#), root (F), 5th (A#), root (C) (my enharmonics might be incorrect) So four notes on four drums that encompass the entire bassline, emphasising roots at the start, the move to F minor, and the resolve to C where those are most important. An easy part that doesn't require extremely fast retuning but retains the power.
@youngmathematician9154
@youngmathematician9154 2 жыл бұрын
Or what you can do is you can write it for two sets of 4 timpani. One set plays four notes and the other plays three. Holst used this in Jupiter, when the two timpanists play the theme together.
@orfious
@orfious 3 жыл бұрын
Your excitement is infectious. And it's nice to see you breaking down one of your own compositions. 👌
@iAmNovaFilms
@iAmNovaFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!! Great great tricks and tips for this kind of sound. And I love the way that you present these ideas!
@marcel_schweder-composer
@marcel_schweder-composer 2 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm is very refreshing and inspiring. Thanks for that!
@SolarMumuns
@SolarMumuns 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative and uplifting as well. Thank you!
@AynenMakino
@AynenMakino 3 жыл бұрын
What sample libraries are you using for this? Anything else of note? (Reverb, mixing and mastering notes, EQ, etc...)
@FreakieFan
@FreakieFan 3 жыл бұрын
He says he only used a little bit of reverb and nothing else. Just the bare sample libraries.
@samueljett7807
@samueljett7807 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreakieFan sample libraries on what?
@cant_handle_deeznuts
@cant_handle_deeznuts 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know as well
@Alexdengmusic
@Alexdengmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Cinesamples
@gravypatron
@gravypatron 3 жыл бұрын
You can get a free download from BBC Orchestra, my fave sound set.🤟😁
@valentina7193
@valentina7193 3 жыл бұрын
I was so needing this right now for a school work. God bless you man!!!
@kbh5401
@kbh5401 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I like that it's a short piece which built from the ground up into a very effective sound. I get too bogged down when trying to produce longer pieces, so just playing with a simple 8 bar piece and trying to orchestrate it in multiple ways lets me try out a lot of ideas really fast. It also helps me to build up my palette of textures/colours. So the exercise in this video is very worthwhile if starting out, or if you're stuck for inspiration.
@gabrielamaro6156
@gabrielamaro6156 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing mate ! Thanks for sharing this !
@Dklampanis
@Dklampanis 3 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant Oscar! Please do more orchestration videos like this!
@Mezilesialan
@Mezilesialan 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. Your creation came step by step. Super rich orchestral sound. Thank you.
@marialock007
@marialock007 2 жыл бұрын
Love your enthusiasm! Your face literally lights up :)
@apalomba
@apalomba 3 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video, thanks for posting it! I love the step by step orchestration guide. It really helps me understand how more complex sound textures are created. I would love to see a video where you take a piano sketch and orchestrate it.
@ObsessiveCostumingDude
@ObsessiveCostumingDude 5 ай бұрын
That was a fun excerpt, and it sounded great! Thanks for sharing and discussing it with us. :)
@jareda.hawkins649
@jareda.hawkins649 3 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing and informative!!! You deserve more subscribers, but I'm more than sure that will definitely happen.
@sicarius9156
@sicarius9156 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Great Video id love for you to make more videos about how to write for the different instruments!
@nightshockplayz5894
@nightshockplayz5894 3 жыл бұрын
As a person who loves to make music sound like this, thanks a lot for the tips, I will be using them more!
@TheJara123
@TheJara123 8 ай бұрын
Thats what I call a wonderful presentation!!
@Sammy71ful
@Sammy71ful 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing sound....I really got chills when the trumpets were added!
@sergechorny9916
@sergechorny9916 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and brief! Thanks a looooot for the tips!
@nemanjabogunovic
@nemanjabogunovic Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video! I am a new fan of your channel :)
@dankanovotna4055
@dankanovotna4055 Жыл бұрын
That's AMAZING! ❤️❤️❤️
@samueljett7807
@samueljett7807 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, just when I needed this, you uploaded!
@charlesmcu9294
@charlesmcu9294 Ай бұрын
this is amazing! very inspiring!!
@basiimwavitoe2608
@basiimwavitoe2608 2 ай бұрын
Wow wow wow. My novice in musical composition has been lifted. What a video!
@beejaybertelsen
@beejaybertelsen 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, please more about composing and orchestration!
@shell1951
@shell1951 Жыл бұрын
I really loved what you made!
@ClaudeYoung
@ClaudeYoung 3 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant!!!!! Would love to see more of this! Very informative!!!! Thanks!!!!!
@barthum
@barthum 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, it's awesome ! 🎇🎶✨
@PierreGenaudeau
@PierreGenaudeau 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Thank you for your advice.
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I love the enthusiastic mood in the whole piece (which would be nice to listen to at the end ;)
@Scriabinfan593
@Scriabinfan593 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, love your content!
@SabertoothStudios1
@SabertoothStudios1 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly can’t thank you enough for these videos.
@ephjaymusic
@ephjaymusic 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Excellent explanation. 👍👍👍
@morayonkeys
@morayonkeys 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool video, a fun change from the analysis videos! Orchestration is so important and it's really nice to see the Hollywood style demystified like this. The balance and blend of a symphony orchestra has been honed so carefully over hundreds of years, so even if you only know the basics of how all the elements work, you'll be able to get something half-decent really easily - unless you decide you need 16 horns of course... I really enjoy writing in Sibelius instead of with a DAW because of this. You have to think about how to make the most of the orchestration from day 1, and while it takes longer, the end result are always better.
@drums4metal
@drums4metal 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Very inspiring
@ImpsMusic
@ImpsMusic 9 ай бұрын
Good information. I'm looking forward to applying your techniques to my next album release.
@thedekuseed4965
@thedekuseed4965 3 жыл бұрын
This was great! Easy step by step vid to try out for my own😊
@kyungshin5855
@kyungshin5855 Жыл бұрын
This is GREAT!
@kenrichard5
@kenrichard5 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Thank you very much!!!
@YannisManesis
@YannisManesis 3 жыл бұрын
as an amateur orchestral/symphonic composer, I have to say this is a very good little informational video!
@saldana7395
@saldana7395 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!
@wisemank9904
@wisemank9904 2 жыл бұрын
What a Great lecture!
@gabrield.cstoica1832
@gabrield.cstoica1832 3 жыл бұрын
Nice and so cool this video tutorial.
@xmarcosnavigator
@xmarcosnavigator 3 жыл бұрын
I loveeeeeed this
@robioptic
@robioptic Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@JenksAnro
@JenksAnro 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how much more of this piece there is, but I'd love to hear the whole thing, and in sure others would too.
@Cancoillotteman
@Cancoillotteman 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry i gotta French-in XD "Cuivre" actually means copper, however since most brassy intruments are made of copper it may still be logical
@TimothyReeves
@TimothyReeves 3 жыл бұрын
Well, brass is an alloy of mostly copper, and the rest zinc.
@gabrielkolim
@gabrielkolim 3 жыл бұрын
Niiice!! Your vibe is the best
@RauMichael
@RauMichael 3 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome!
@fixyjohnfixyjohn1735
@fixyjohnfixyjohn1735 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial...
@joobastudio
@joobastudio 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing ! Subcribed.
@Sannahmusic
@Sannahmusic 11 ай бұрын
There is so much great information in these basics, thank you so much! I have been wondering the last months whether I would ever be able to write something for a standard orchestra, and I kept thinking that I had to give each instrument a separate voice. Funny! Now I understand what the purpose of that all is. I am still experimenting with unusual chamber music, but I think, after a bit more of growing, one day I will be ready for a greater challenge. Thank you again!
@crismatheson6187
@crismatheson6187 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic...sounds grand
@allthingsguitar9219
@allthingsguitar9219 3 жыл бұрын
Very Inspirational
@Jesterzero138
@Jesterzero138 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! really practical and some simple guidelines to follow for newcomers like me
@theoe354
@theoe354 3 жыл бұрын
Best channel on youtube. (Also, if you ever want to make a musical analysis of Beethoven's emperor concerto, I would be very happy :) )
@Muzisoccer253
@Muzisoccer253 3 жыл бұрын
Great, thank you
@LuwySoundtracks
@LuwySoundtracks 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!! I like classic movie hollywood score!
@gustabartok
@gustabartok 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, great ideas!
@yadinmichaeli12
@yadinmichaeli12 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing tips thank you ☺️
@sveinungnygaard1505
@sveinungnygaard1505 3 жыл бұрын
Man, i want to hear the entire piece!
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹🔥
@mohig7273
@mohig7273 Жыл бұрын
Excellent sir.... After a long time, something very practical.... Love and respect from India 🙏🇮🇳🙏🇮🇳🙏🇮🇳🙏
@sogolaliabadi8413
@sogolaliabadi8413 3 жыл бұрын
Lovvvved this video!
@12ghostsII
@12ghostsII 3 жыл бұрын
That kinda stuff I expected to see in Danny Elfman’s master class. Great job and very useful! Cheers from Kazakhstan ;)
@yojesse89
@yojesse89 3 жыл бұрын
More videos like this please!!!
@gravypatron
@gravypatron 3 жыл бұрын
Of course make more of these🤷‍♀️🎶🤟
@stefanul
@stefanul Жыл бұрын
i'd love more videos like this. very practical and straightfoward. We all want to compose like Williams and Powell but nobody seems to actually understand that
@limonscore
@limonscore 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video
@RorenMovies
@RorenMovies 2 жыл бұрын
So much lost time before I got here. Thank you very much, I learned exactly what I needed. 👌👌😀😀
@JasonFerguson1283
@JasonFerguson1283 3 жыл бұрын
"Solid" video! Thanks!!
@aleksandragudkova7242
@aleksandragudkova7242 2 жыл бұрын
wow thanks!
@kennyteeology3526
@kennyteeology3526 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Reminds me of Jerry Goldsmith who liked his fanfares with percussion and bass.
@Softdattel
@Softdattel 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good.
@GUPRPEET-Singh
@GUPRPEET-Singh 3 жыл бұрын
I want more videos like that... Explaining everything step by step👍👍
@auldthymer
@auldthymer 3 жыл бұрын
Such a joy to learn!
@GUPRPEET-Singh
@GUPRPEET-Singh 3 жыл бұрын
@@auldthymer hi alan what daw you use? Do you compose orchestral music??
@auldthymer
@auldthymer 3 жыл бұрын
@@GUPRPEET-Singh I'm using Finale with some VSTs. And I just scored my 3rd short movie for a buddy of mine.
@GUPRPEET-Singh
@GUPRPEET-Singh 3 жыл бұрын
@@auldthymer never heard of finale...i use fl studio. anyway plz share the link of your scores... how long you been composing orchestral music?
@mehrdad13741
@mehrdad13741 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I especially loved the part that everything settles after the climax!
@WforWrath
@WforWrath Жыл бұрын
this is SICK
@jonaswolfmusic1775
@jonaswolfmusic1775 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Great pedagogical content, I really liked how you stacked up each section succesively so one could follow it coming all together. The result with that repetitive melody only in horns and violins reminds me more of Hans Zimmer than John Williams style (maybe also due to the meldoy being quasi-pentatonic?). Would be cool to have something like a piano reduction at the beginning so that one is going to see what it will become in the end, but in an "uninstrumented" way.
@thetej2000
@thetej2000 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir ❤️
@KarlRKaiser
@KarlRKaiser 3 жыл бұрын
These Hollywood sounds were "borrowed" from classical orchestrators. Want to learn how to do it? Listen to Berlioz, Wagner, Tchaikovsky, and Richard Strauss (considered the best of them all). For color and character - not just "big sound" - include Rimsky-Korsakov and Debussy.
@FreakieFan
@FreakieFan 3 жыл бұрын
Not to forget Ravel! The king of the colorful orchestra as far as I'm concerned.
@KarlRKaiser
@KarlRKaiser 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreakieFan Yeah, Mother Goose suite and orchestrating Pictures at an Exhibition (originally for piano). Other composers dabbled in orchestrating it, but after Ravel's version it was Game Over.
@FreakieFan
@FreakieFan 3 жыл бұрын
@@KarlRKaiser Exactly! Daphne & Chloe: What a spectrum of orchestral colours!
@kloakovalimonada
@kloakovalimonada 3 жыл бұрын
Well the whole modern soundtrack genre is basically lifted from Gustav Holst's Planets
@RobTi
@RobTi 3 жыл бұрын
@@kloakovalimonada came here to say this. While it is true that one could argue romantic composers were the first to really shell out the foundation of sound used in film scores, it wasn’t fully solidified until Gustav Holst planets series came out. He has every movie genre in that suite.
@pablovasquez2166
@pablovasquez2166 3 жыл бұрын
more videos about orchestration please.....this is great.
@panoslazidis576
@panoslazidis576 2 жыл бұрын
Great job.! Ok a few minutes of watching here the video,to have an idea how to begin a basic idea.I suppose it takes hours or days to have this incredible music .
@kappabravomusic2101
@kappabravomusic2101 3 жыл бұрын
Great advises
@MrTotalwinner
@MrTotalwinner 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video + comment for the algorithm :)
@RedCaio
@RedCaio 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Bravo. Can we hear more / full piece?
@nicketaevani-fzukunf007
@nicketaevani-fzukunf007 3 жыл бұрын
Also , how do we compose for synths .I mean not like a music box replacing the orchestra but something like Vangelis , Klaus Schulze , Jean Michel Jarre.
@michaellaumusic
@michaellaumusic 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Let us hear the rest of the piece and your approach. You should write a book.
@samueljett7807
@samueljett7807 3 жыл бұрын
What software are you using to get these sounds?
@minhquang3126
@minhquang3126 3 жыл бұрын
also curious about this
@SuperAmazingPower
@SuperAmazingPower 3 жыл бұрын
I also need the answer
@Alexdengmusic
@Alexdengmusic 3 жыл бұрын
There's a variety of libraries. Look into Cinesamples, Spitfire Audio or Orchestral Tools. But those libraries are indeed pricey.
@TiagoNugentComposer
@TiagoNugentComposer 3 жыл бұрын
he's using definitely cinematic studio strings and brass, not sure what he's using for the winds and percussion.
@anthonyworthydaretodreammu2451
@anthonyworthydaretodreammu2451 Жыл бұрын
This will be one of my new templates......
@BlackmetalSM
@BlackmetalSM 3 жыл бұрын
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