Creating a magic system: Technomancy vs Wizardry

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Just In Time Worlds

Just In Time Worlds

Күн бұрын

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🚀 Join me in delving deep into the art of integrating magic into science fiction worldbuilding! 🌌 We're not just discussing magic systems in space; we're exploring the creation of "magitech" and how to seamlessly merge magic with technology to enhance your world-building. Whether you call it science fantasy or space fantasy, this genre offers limitless possibilities for creativity and innovation.🧙‍♂️🔧
Chapters
0:00 Introduction
2:30 Magic and Tech Themes
10:15 Magitek (or Magitech)
17:55 Sufficiently Advance Technology
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@StarlasAiko
@StarlasAiko 5 ай бұрын
Any science sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic. Any magic sufficiently understood is indistinguishable from sceince.
@nagillim7915
@nagillim7915 5 ай бұрын
You had me hooked quoting Elric the Technomage at the beginning.
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 5 ай бұрын
I’ve watched Babylon 5 again in preparation for this series 😎❤️
@DamienZshadow
@DamienZshadow 5 ай бұрын
This is why I love Stargate! The magic is clarktech but we see it from three perspectives. The humans who revere it as the work of the gods, the humans from earth who know better but aren't sure how, and the aliens that know it best and exploit it.
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 5 ай бұрын
It’s a great series 😊😎
@BKPrice
@BKPrice 4 ай бұрын
I would also mention biotics in Mass Effect as either sufficiently advanced technology type of magic or just plain magic in a scientific skin, since Element Zero is fictitious and I would highly doubt we would ever discover it or its equivalent but it is utilized both inherently and through technological application.
@shanevonknuth
@shanevonknuth Ай бұрын
Watching your videos feels like hanging out with a friend's older sibling after school. Feels nerdy, warm, and like home.
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds Ай бұрын
Well, I’m definitely an OG nerd 😏😃
@nagillim7915
@nagillim7915 5 ай бұрын
My first introduction to magitech came from my childhood when i became a fan of He-Man and She-Ra. The cartoon shows never really did a deep-dive into the lore but as originally envisaged Eternia is a post-apocalyptic world where vast ancient civilisations were wiped out by terrible wars, and both the magic and technology of the series - and the macguffin of Castle Greyskull and the secrets of the universe hidden within - are the last vestiges of those ancient civilisations' wonders. Over time the ancient civilisations element has been mostly forgotten in the franchise by people who only grew up on the cartoons but it's still my favourite part.
@thiagom8478
@thiagom8478 5 ай бұрын
I didn't knew this element, beyond what is obvious. I know they have Conan (the Cimmerian created by Robert E Howard) as a source of inspiration. And I once noticed in the background of an episode of She-Ra an statue in a water fountain that strongly suggests to me some Gorean roots as well (it is a man capturing a woman, very John Norman style. And the public monument is in a random peasant village, nothing to suggest that was left there by the Horde). I also remember what I believe was the first episode of He-Man, that seemed a lot closer to Conan than anything else in the show. But I am not familiar with the original worldbuilding intended to the show. Those were better times, with less Specialist Professionals babbling pseudo-scientific rules about what children are supposed to be exposed to or not. Make sense to me that they could have elaborated a more interesting setting, despite the show being intended for young audiences mostly. Back them children could still read the Bible, Homer, and other very bloody tales without anyone think about if it was proper or not. Few people would dare to suggest editing the classics to make them less "problematic", by taking away things like violence, patriarcal notions, slavery and/or racism. Did they published this background elements at the time, or more recently?
@nagillim7915
@nagillim7915 5 ай бұрын
@@thiagom8478 - they did an encyclopedia, episode guides and other books a few years ago that revealed a lot of the background stuff. Some of it did make it into licensed media at the time like comics and picture books. And the original run of minicomics that came with the toys had some of it. They did a collected edition of those.
@thiagom8478
@thiagom8478 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, @@nagillim7915 .
@thatnerdygaywerewolf9559
@thatnerdygaywerewolf9559 4 ай бұрын
Magitek is one of my favorite fantasy aesthetics, with two of my favorite videogame franchises (Zelda and Xenoblade) exhibiting it in various ways (though more-so in Xenoblade than Zelda). While it doesn’t lean into this aspect directly, Xenoblade 1 can be considered to have the “democratization of magic” element, as the High Entia are the only ones who can directly wield ether. Everyone else has to use catalysts and technology to access its power, leading to things like rifles that fire healing bullets. But then on top of that, you have a special magitek sword that only certain people can use which is connected to ether on an even more fundamental level than even “natural mages”.
@exocosm-worldbuilding
@exocosm-worldbuilding 5 ай бұрын
A pet peeve I have about this subject is that in the many discussions of magic and technology on the internet (not specifically your video) I think it would be helpful to first define what is meant by technology. After all, technology is basically just the application of knowledge for practical purposes, so magic is commonly presented as a technology anyway. Often it seems as if technology is being used to refer to physical devices that anyone can use. However, most magic items would seem to fit this category already. Does that make a basic magic sword magic, technology or magitech? It is after all the combination of fictional magic with a real technology and anyone can use it. What about magic rings, potions and other assorted tropes? It's never been entirely clear to me where the boundaries are between magic, technology and magitech.
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 5 ай бұрын
It’s a very blurry line and one that I feel the world builder needs to draw in their story. I normally define tech as driven by science that someone in the world understands. Magic has something mysterious and inexplicable to it. Even if people in the world can use it, they don’t know everything about it. There’s a portion of it that just works this way or that way. Magitek is the gray and malleable border.
@cloutdemon3998
@cloutdemon3998 28 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this! Love your personality and content, very descriptive , thought provoking and wonderfully structured.
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 28 күн бұрын
Glad your enjoyed it!
@elgordo107able
@elgordo107able 5 ай бұрын
Ok, youtube no me avisó que esta serie continuaba, así que es hora de jugar un juego, juguemos a "¡Hora de ponerse al día!". Quejas y bromas a parte, uno de los temas que suele rondar mi cabeza cuando pienso en este genero es en mezclar la zoología especulativa, con la fantasía, responder a la pregunta de ¿Cómo sería la evolución de un mundo mágico? ¿Alguna idea?
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 5 ай бұрын
This was the principle of my science fantasy world. I built weird and wonderful creatures that have some science reason behind the way they look and their abilities(even if the science is shaky). So I have solar ants with glowing abdomens that shoot lasers and other crazy things like that (and there is a reason why they seem like earth creatures :) )
@elgordo107able
@elgordo107able 5 ай бұрын
@@JustInTimeWorlds Gracias, aunque estaba pensando más en cosas cómo, por ejemplo: ¿Cómo se verán los animales, cómo unicornios y orcos, dentro de 5 millones de años?
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 5 ай бұрын
@@elgordo107able ah! Well, that’s an interesting thought. It would depend on what makes them more likely to successfully procreate in the wild if they’re not domesticated and if they are domesticated, what the sentient species selects for in breeding them.
@elgordo107able
@elgordo107able 5 ай бұрын
@@JustInTimeWorlds A lo mejor los unicornios podrían desarrollar poderes de fuego para sobrevivir a una glaciación o algo así.
@lapiswolf2780
@lapiswolf2780 5 ай бұрын
When you mentioned magitech, i started thinking about Constructs and Zonai devices in The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, and *maybe* the Guardians and ancient and ancient dericed items and weapons created by the Sheikah tribe from 10,000 years prior in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Tears of the Kingdom takes place between ~5-7 years after Breath of the Wild.
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 5 ай бұрын
My head went to final fantasy, but Zelda is also a great example
@lapiswolf2780
@lapiswolf2780 5 ай бұрын
Speaking of The Legend of Zelda, there are similar robots in Skyward Sword in the ancient Lanayru region that used to mine time shift stones and can be reactivated with them. I heard these last 3 major games were directed or produced by the same person. @@JustInTimeWorlds
@ard52192
@ard52192 27 күн бұрын
And the alien spider/vampire People in Venice knew about it.. not the only one who can overcome the psychic paper.
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds 26 күн бұрын
I'd forgotten about them :)
@m3vm3
@m3vm3 Ай бұрын
why no one does theorization for the magic in marvel universe and comics and those other worlds without hard or soft magic stuff. its like writing is being subverted by this . almost every video ive seen when it speaks on magic and good writing follow the same ''ideology''
@JustInTimeWorlds
@JustInTimeWorlds Ай бұрын
I actually just find it useful as a point of discussion. As I said in my video on hard vs soft magic systems, the debate is silly. The magic system of a world is whatever the author needs it to be. But when discussing broad strokes, it helps to thing in terms of "harder magic systems work better if you want to do this" and "softer magic systems work better if you want to do that". It's not an ideology, it's just a tool for categorization and discussion.
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