😂😂😂

It’s a bit sad you prefer someone lie…

No

they still cant detect it i think this is mainly for content creators who openly use it... The content creators who don't admit it will still use it and get away with it.

Nice copy paste bro

from the dev's ive discussed this with.....they can detect it. Not sure it will matter, but at least they finally took a stance on it.

@@CronusChronicles true bro i feel like any stance is better then no stance. On the other hand will they just be giving out bans to people or will they try to to make cronus useless in there game because theres an age old debate why stop the cheats when you can ban them and make them rebuy all dlc again etc... like is this for more money or do they really want to stop cheaters lol

W bungie

I appreciate prayers, as they are a form of hopefulness which can dictate and direct behaviors. With that being said, I’m not directly hurt by this ban. If you are praying for someone to be hurt, I would call question to the root of your faith

Already did actually. Cronus “the good, the bad, and the ugly” video. My k/d actor went up after I stopped using it. I equate it to having to play harder versus having fake confidence to take every silly gun fight lol

Lots of reasons actually. Main one being my game sense has become more lazy.

and you seem comfortable with your own confirmation bias's. You dont follow this channel (apparently) so you dont know this. I havent used a zen in trials or comp pvp for months now. I show how it works in private lobby's and thats it. I stopped using it....and no one could even tell the difference. Kind of silly, right? Now, did we know it was cheating? No, absolutely not. But after this recent twab, yes, we know its considered cheating now. And I will refer to it as such. You spoke from subjectiveness, and you happen to be correct this time. But you didnt really know. I took the opposite side and gave my reasons backed with facts (facts at the time, this has been changed obviously). I will move forward accordingly.

@@CronusChronicles prob went up after all the others couldn’t use it

@@cat11112222 correct. But not by much. Also, I tend to do a lot of silly things in this game. I don’t track K/D as seriously as the top dudes. But I do take comp matches serious so if you want a look at those stats (I’m ascended 3), I believe those to be an accurate picture of my current “skill”

Same concept, different application. We aren’t sure how far Bungie will push the phrase “advanced macro” just yet

Nothing but.karens

Meanwhile we got mass shootings going on and you care about A modded controller

@@Exposingfrauds143 I assume you use a zen or something similar, can you explain to me why you use it?

ROFL How many people have razer products, 100% you can have macros on them. 99% of gaming specific peripherals can record macros. "BAN THEM, BAN HAMMER, EXECUTE THEM ALL", well where do you start and where do you end? Cos razer could definitely give you drop shot, strafe shot, any of the skating etc etc etc.

of course not. Its officially banned. My narrative has been the same for 2 years now dude. You havent been around except for a few videos.

@@CronusChronicles hey buddy, I've been following your channel for years. I started watch to learn what advantages a zen users had over myself and a general player. Don't get me wrong, I respect your position, being open and honest about the device and the game

I appreciate it dude. Zen will probably still be an issue tbh. but i wont post videos in support of it any longer.

I stand by my opinion that until quite recently, this was not considered cheating. I dont care what people on the internet think, who have done little to no research or have had ZERO personal experience testing a product. I havent flipped on anything. Ive had the same stance for years now. It CAN be used for accessbility and ive worked with people that specifically use it for that. It CAN be used as a comp advantage and plenty of people have used it that way without ANY punishment....meaning it can and probably should be viewed as permissible until stated otherwise. And NOW that an official policy statement has come out from Bungie considering this device to be cheating if used in the competitive context, then i will and have admitted that my argument was incorrect. I appreciate the 5 minutes you watched of my videos before making your incredibly informed opinion though.

@@CronusChronicles Now I can respect your first part of your comment here and I do wish you had stated this in the video, that despite these changes you still stand by your opinion. But you didn't. See you have this way of trying to sherk responsibility for making videos promoting, endorsing and teaching people how to use this product despite knowing exactly what most people use it for. But suddenly it's not cool because papa Bungie decided it wasn't. You didn't come to any sudden realization that this device was bad, you only changed your opinion on competitive usage, despite all the arguments and general sentiments, because a videogame company said "no no". This issue is you claim to be transparent but obviously tell half truths and deflect responsibility for your continued promotion of this product. Cronus has never been advertised as a gaming aid, thats always been a shield created by its userbase to try and keep it from getting banned.

@@Imagine_Trying this is silly. You are seriously trying to tell me what my own opinion is? You live in a silly world my dude. You are no longer worth wasting time on so Best of luck to you.

They don’t seem to be able to detect anything from what I’ve read in the forums. There is an update coming to the D2 game pack soon so they may have taken it down for now. Doom eternal is a good back up game pack

@@CronusChronicles Ok, thanks for the quick reply 👍

coaching, literally anything else, is and has always been my preference. lol

@@CronusChronicles Im super happy for you man! So is the plan to focus on gaming and coaching knowing that you're not at a competitive disadvantage by leaving cronus /xim behind? (and not putting your players at a disadvantage?) Im genuinely curious how easy you feel like a transition out of relying on these is going to be for you and yours?

What about this video makes you think these devices are going to be "left behind'??? Its identified to the system as a generic xinput device, all its software is on the device so, battle.eye, EASY, or any other anti hack software has nothing to detect. Literally you have to be a streamer, showing your in game id and admitting your using the device to get banned. Don't be ignorant.

I actually tested that out btw. I got an account restriction. I think some of the bungie security team are actually subs to my channel. lol

@@CronusChronicles Yeah, and bungie will no doubt send out a message saying we have banned 'SEVERAL' players since we made the change.....a win for them. As per conversation on this video, there are possibly 100's of thousands of players using this device. I bought one to see what the hype was about. It may be enough for an average player to rank a bit higher. But would a pro player use one to get an edge? HELL NO. The device is hit and miss. Aim assist locks on to the wrong target, the settings for auto fire etc are build specific, you change a weapon,your auto fire isn't in sync anymore so you get stutter or have to change a profile (with only 10 profile slots you'd need one device per game really), drop shot strafe shot is ALWAYS on, sometimes the device even resets half way through a match. It's not the same as hacking, and whether people know what they are talking about or not, its hacking which is the problem with gaming, not macro enabled devices, which i might add, ALL RAZER PRODUCTS ARE.

I don’t know how much of this was external devices, SBMM, or just more improper among player base. There are also a ton of cheesy things in PvP to take advantage of. It’s a little short sighted for everyone to think Cronus was the biggest and only problem here. I do get the feeling a lot of people are going to be disappointing when they are still losing to better PvP players, even without a Cronus

@@CronusChronicles Nah, play trials this week on PC, one in 3 games you will get a sniper with 95% HS accuracy obviously using a xim... how do you out skill that? For console, sure, they may have a valid use but for PC, literally no reason to use them as windows natively support controllers so people using xims on PC are not doing it for "accessibility" problems and should get immediately banned. I'm a legit mmk top 5% player in trials so I can say for sure that you cant out skill that. Even with the recoil advantage, at best you would get a trade so how is that fair.

I personally fee snipers are my hardest opponents and I almost never challenge them. Everyone seems to always pick me lol

I don’t know. I’ve found headphone in COD with directional audio to be a huge advantage. I don’t know what the extent for indirect advantages are at this moment

I am. Would you like to see a resume? =p

@@CronusChronicles No, what I would like to see is all the money you made through destroying the community of several video games, be donated to the several game developers. Your entire scam to be ceased, along with a public apology to the good honest true gamers. If you do consider yourself a coach, how is telling people to cheat ok? It's like telling your student that it's ok to cut corners.

@@aaronsake3876 only apologize if you make a mistake, which I didn’t. I knew what I was posting and that I could be wrong about it. I owned up to being wrong also. And do you think I’m making millions off YT or something?

@@CronusChronicles Dude, however you go about this, your influencing the gaming community to cheat. Yeah, you've done something wrong. This does not need an explanation.

I’m still getting gunned by Zens.

@@bizmircskill issue

Saying my name would give me and my channel more traffic, so they tend to avoid that. The KZfaqrs that prefer to lie about these things for views would also prefer to me to make more content though....so they can piggy back off that content for views. Its a funny situation to be a part of lol

what would you like to see? I have idea's, but am open to feedback and suggestions

Get a Xim just don’t macro

@@CronusChronicleshas destiny banned anyone yet? Ive been looking into it quite a bit and havent seen anything about anyone actually getting banned?

@lostmytoaster2352 no one has been banned that I am aware of

Meanwhile we got mass shootings going on And you Care about a petty mod For a video game That realistically means nothing

I did recently start playing a lil fortnite cus they said they will ban zen users. Only problem is fortnite is boring af.

As far as I can tell, no they haven’t banned anyone

It all depends on how you have it set up. But from my understanding, as long as you don’t use “advanced macros” in the comp environment, then you are ok

@@CronusChronicles oh thx,i dont even use paddles behind.i just like the feeling of this controller and thats it.

Lol you are good to go then

False. They’re dangerous and illegal.

No one has been banned that I am aware of. I’m not sure when they are going to update the game pack for light fall. I believe COD became a priority and once that settles, they will update the others

@@CronusChronicles ok, COD already solved it with the patch from 3 days ago

No one has been banned. Seems like the notice was just fluff.

it was just bs @@CronusChronicles

Its identified as a generic Xinput device, no way of distinguishing between a $3 chinese controller or cronus/xim

I believe so. But I’m not 100% sure

That video was actually the 3rd one that got out front and center. First one was 2-3 years ago. I’m actually genuinely curious why it took so long for them to make a statement/official stance. There were definitely more angry people from Immortal video though….like…..angry to the point of death threats. Lol people are crazy sometimes

Wym??

Not that I’ve seen. Should be fine. If you get a plum code error, then I think that’s a warning. If not, you are good to go

Believe this or not, I do understand the implications. I dont believe there is any real way of stopping the progression of such devices though either. Its the same thing with sports and fitness unfortunately.

No

I thought i replied back to you. The email is on my channel page.

No

Because when all those advantages die, whose is left at the top? The people using aids to be better than they are or the people who were top% legit?

Are you in the field for coaching or personal training? Do you happen to train athletes who have multi-million dollar contracts, or perhaps you train people who have thousands of dollars of fitness sponsorships on the line? The main factor for these people keeping their contracts usually comes down to "what edge can I get?" As a side note, Im not longer in this field anymore. And you may be right....my mindset was being heavily influenced by the pressures of the type of work. But with that being said.....I still think Cronus should be available for people to use. I have my reasons for thinking this way....and all of those opinions are based off my own personal experiences with it. I respect your opinion dude. Thanks for commenting.

To be fair, I was raised to enjoy hard work, meaning I hate sitting and doing paperwork. I helped build houses in musician village after Katrina, I can weld, have even rebuilt engines, so long as I can work with my hands I’m happy. Sure I had to have surgery on my hands over the years and not all my fingers are 100%. My grip is in no way compromised but doing intricate things has to be done with my off hand 🤷‍♂️. My father was a personal trainer, now he has his own businesses: warehousing for high end and vintage vehicles, dabbles in flipping high priced vintage vehicles after getting them as close back to original. Granted he gets a quarter mil a year from inheritance now… his father made it so he had to have a successful enough business that he owns, making so much minimum for a few years, for him to receive inheritance in a specific sum per year 🤷‍♂️ my brother started his business at 18 to get ahead of that possibility 😂 he owns P3, small business but makes him 50,000 a year min. Despite being around people who typically cut corners to speed up work and having a somewhat bum hand, I never needed or wanted a handout to get better. I earn what I can with what I have. Who cares if you are top % in a video game, honestly…. For me it’s just a personal achievement, why everyone gotta get so butt hurt to need an advantage over others in a video game? It’s literally just entertainment, except for the actual pros. Why can’t they just put in the effort and reap the benefits? People in this day and age are truly mental.

TLDR, you sold yourself out and limited your own capacity to earn your way to the top and are encouraging others to do the same 💀

KinesioTherapist was my official title. Its just Corrective Exercise and Rehab. Worked in outpatient clinics for 7 years and then moved on to corporate wellness, then back to Strength and Conditioning Speciality work

@@CronusChronicles nice I've been watching your videos since I got the zen u taught me how to setup and fix its sad to see them all getting shutdown

@@Mattys91gt i hear you dude. That was always a possibiliity though. TOS and code of conduct rules can be changed to reflect new changes of direction or company culture (video game in this case lol). No biggy. I might start making videos now about how vpn's can be used for comp advantages....and how the YTers use them to circumvent SBMM parameters to get into bot lobbies so they can get good footage for their "weapon test" videos. =)

@@CronusChronicles yup I did it for years with my router for trials lobbies and getting Lunas howl and now it sits in my draw it was the nighthawk xr500

wouldn’t count on that

@@stephen0327 If you know Bungie, you know. They didn't give any clear plan, proof, or way of saying how they'll know or what they'll use to pick up on it. It's purely a discretion thing in the most seen scenarios (world's first, biggest streamers in trials). They'll only check those. For everyone else, seeing people get banned/restricted will be as common as the reporting system actually doing anything.

“Permissible” or “interruption” language is fun

it shouldnt be

They actually mentioned controllers but nothing specific.

Yup

You didn’t watch the video. And that’s ok dude. Best of luck to you anyway

hahaah like hopium. You didnt watch shit. Or anything he has ever put out there. I use his video of beating zen to do my carries in trials. I dont have one but he has always stood the position that fight fire with fire. I imagine if you actually watched anything your remark would be note worthy however it just comes off as pretentious and idiotic

​@@Rifredi as pretentious and idiotic as your current stance? Fighting fire is - fighting more evil with more evil. That doesn't justify anything, what are you a child?

Like the xim Matrix ?

Imagine carrying a about a modded controller when there's mass shootings going on

@@Exposingfrauds143 i agree with you, everyone would be safer if we all had firearms and were properly trained.

​@@Exposingfrauds143 Damn bruh, why care about anything at that point.

​@@brawnbayer4654 Glad to see another supporter of 2A rights under a Destiny video of all places.

@@thatoneswarmdrone6409 yeah, there isn't many of us in the community.

How?

@@None-93 so first of all the biggest thing is that Battleye isn’t even used off Console. Bungie doesn’t have a single thing in place for cheating on console. It’s simply plugged into your controller and it doesn’t appear as anything other than your controller input.

​@@Vysedragon they can detect the inputs coming from the controller silly

@@ulianassange2763 simply not possible on console

@@Vysedragon how can an online game not detect inputs being sent to them ?

So you seem pretty stuck on this 99% number. Let me clarify something. Between 30-57% of players have used some form of enhancement peripherals or attachments. This was based on a global survey of gamers

Lol. Master of personal training is a different but related area