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Thanks for this review 👍😉

Wow.. Many many years ago I clearly chose Crosman over a Gamo breakbarrel.. Never regretted my .177 Crosman Phantom, which shoots fantastic.. But, nowadays; I'd absolutely go with a Gamo Swarm breakbarrel over something like this rifle featured here..

When you get one and have the time, review the relatively new Hastan SpeedFire Magnum 1250 .22. Only multi-shot break barrel magnum on the market besides Gamo's version. Very few reviews on it, probably not a good sign.

Hi Rick. You shoud not use a phone to measure the loudnes of a gun shot. It can't measure the short peak in loudness. Keep up the good work!

Finally not a a Gamo

I purchased a Steel eagle a number of years ago and I had high hopes it was going to be a real step forward for Crosman, turned out to be the only rifle I couldn't get to shoot well in my life time. I tried everything conceivable but to no avail, it has since went to the garbage pile as I wouldn't even keep it for parts, as I doubt I will ever purchase another one

Looks almost identical to my Benjamin Vaporizer 177. Edit: just realized crosman made Benjamin lol. Anyways besides it being a heavier rifle its a great gun. It was my first rifle .. then i bought the Gamo Magnum in 22. At 10m i can put 3 shots in the same hole .. pretty accurate gun. Scope is pretty decent too.. definitely better than the Gamo scope. Only negative i havw is its heavy.

Sounds like you have a bad gas ram I believe that’s the slowest 22 cal gas ram gun I’ve seen anybody do a review on

That's a bit weird Rick. I was just looking at this Crosman last night and checking out reviews. Today you have the review I was looking for. Saved me some trouble. They have refurbished models on sale pretty cheap, but now I remember why I stick with Spanish, German or UK made breakbarrels. Would love to see a review on the Norica ZRS that Pyramid Air now offers. Very interesting zero recoil system but a but pricey.

Yeah you might have gotten a bad one plus it sitting around so long is it good for the seals out-of-the-box mine was getting just under 15 foot-pounds of energy and 177 and 10 out of 12 shots were at a bottle top size at 25 yards the only bad thing that happened to me was the scope but it came with broke but it's shooting much better now that it is broken in

You're not the only one who's had a bad experience with that gun

Thanks Rick , but ho hum actually dosed off .Less talk more rock .

Hey Rick, will you make a video on the new hatsan zada.

Ok wish I would have seen this review earlier, my first air gun when I got back into them was the MAG-FIRE in a .177 ... Had the same problem, clean the barrel and all. What I found out is (before I got sick), Is that the baffle system in it is a poor design... the flip back and forth, with no were for the air to go... (the Benjamin Prowler has the same design...) that one does not shoot good either... What I end up doing is drilling relief holes in the shroud... 4 on the top pointing at an angle forward like an air stripper, 3 on each side on the 1st 3 indented slots... now I measured them out, so they matched the baffle pointing out in the shroud... The groupings got a lot better, however still only a 10/15-yard air gun... Seen you-tube later were someone just drilled out the 4 dented slots at the end of the muzzle... will be trying that on the Benjamin... FYI the Benjamin trail has a different baffle... but has different threading and will not screw on the MAG-FIRE or Benjamin Prowler... All in all, almost gave up on air gunning because of this non-American made air gun.... JUST SAYING... Big C 😎, FYI my $70 Gamo Rocket (Real springer,) will shoot rings around the Crosman...👍

Had the Vaporizer for Pest control and it was a powerful rifle but man alive it was pellet PICKY! I recommend Gamo and save up for a more expensive scope and you’ll be content 👍

For some weird reason , the .177 Mag Fire Mission performs to specifications. Thanks for the review, .22 would've been a disappointment. I Want FPE !

Thanks and nice job Rick! Ship it back! Bad rifle! With the cocking being so light you got a bad one. Crosman's "Quality Control" has really gone down since the holding group Velocity Outdoors took over! The Crosman Extreme in .177 my friend has is a very good 30 yard break barrel.

That looks like the same stock as the Benjamin Steel Eagle. I'm wondering how it compares, since my Steel Eagle works well. Especially with the Benjamin Discover 14.3 grain pellets.

I appreciate the video. Maybe it’s just me and my debilitating ADD, but it was torture.

DB is actually dB. A subtle, but important distinction.

I got one three weeks ago, and it is very powerful and accurate. At 50 yards, without the scope on it, bullseye . the pallets went right through a 1 inch board with ease but not a 2 inch board 😅. I love it 👏.

I’ve had so many Crosman lemons. The first generation NP guns were particularly bad. 🍋

I have a Benjamin Rushmore which is basically the twin to the trail xl and at 15 yards I can't get it to group at all ! I've tried 36 different pellets in it with no luck ! I just don't get it my trail xl in 25 cal is a great shooter at 45 yards ! Rick if it's a good review or a bad review the truth needs to be told about a airgun !

hey Rick i have the crossman benjamin trail np2 and it is a great back yard plinker and very accurate and quiet..i love it,looks like crossman have been getting worse to be honest. like you i love the gamo stuff,i have 4 gamo swarms and you just cant beat them if you are looking for multi shot break barrels with quality.

I grew up loving Crosman products. I'm starting to avoid them as a rule. As a Canadian who until recently had to endure the < 500fps rule for pellet rifles, Crosman always ended up with ~420fps on their "495fps" rifles, adding insult to the toy-like velocities they defaulted to. I dare anyone on this entire planet to use any alloy pellet in the Crosman F11 I have & get anything > 450fps. I got 449fps with a 9.7gr alloy pellet once, and that only after I shimmed it 3mm. I don't think you can get a smaller .22 pellet. Now that I've got my gun license, I can buy any pellet rifle I want - and I was looking at this one due to the 'QuietFire' suppression on the barrel since I need something quiet. I thought ok, 975fps, should get 900fps with lead pellets ~14.3gr, subsonic, just what I need. Now I'm seeing sub-700 velocities, 16ft-lbs, 83 dB, huge groupings at 15yards (14.3gr Crosman Premier hollow point pellets), cheap mags with picky compartments, not to mention sharp edges & a lousy trigger - I can't think of a single reason to get this rifle. Then I watched a review of a Gamo Swarm Magnum G3. It shot the same pellets at 997fps, 28.8 ft-lbs, only 72 dB consistently, tight groupings at 30yards (14.6gr H&N Trophy pellets), mags aren't as picky with pellet types or weights. I've heard a lot of claims of Gamo owners on Reddit about Gamo being of questionable quality, but if something breaks, it's not exactly a huge investment - and at least you're getting performance while it lasts. And maybe Gamo have upped their game, who knows - but it's worth the risk, IMO. All brands do the "Alloy pellets in an ideal scenario where the planets align just right...." velocities, but there should be a recognized standard that prevents them from printing an "up to" velocity if it's not true. Consensus from reviewers seems to suggest we subtract ~30% of 'up to' velocity when using regular-joe pellets. The manufacturer should have to prove the max velocity once, identify the pellet used, at what altitude, etc. At this point, Gamo or Crosman can say "up to 3000fps" & they'd get away with it. With my new patented "NAH, UH, PROVE IT!" (NUPI) rating, if they can't prove the speed, they don't get to claim it. The Crosman Mag Fire .22 Ultra has NUPI velocity of 692 fps, 15.2 ft-lbs which I saw on another channel.

To me it sounds like my son's toy rifle.

I'm a PCP guy but wanted something for my granddaughters to shoot, learn gun safety and responsibility,I bought the Gamo viper last week because of the Mag system, and love it and now glad didn't buy the crosman, the storm was $50 more but fit-and-finish is everything to me.

Hello from Alberta Rick , I have a gamo speedster , when i cock the gun sometimes the pellets fall out of the mag before the probe can push the pellet into the barrel , any thoughts on whats happening?

Please update if you get an exchange.

So you can return it.

Try FX pellets 16 grain

I just got a Magfire Extreme and it was an inaccurate garbage pile of a gun. Just sent it back today. I’ll never buy another Crosman Magfire type airgun.

Honestly? My Gamo Swarm (gen 2) in .22 was firing similarly at 10 yards (if not worse). I cleaned the barrel - and it began shooting in to a single hole. You've gotta clean the gun to make it a fair review.

Price $?

Another excellent review made by you. An excellent review...of a bad airgun. None, and I mean N O N E of its features justifies the word "Ultra" being a part of its name. Sorry Crossman, you used to be among the best airgun producers...

Aren't you supposed to clean the barrel of ANY new gun out of the box before first use? Don't these need about 100 rounds to "break in" to achieve their best accuracy?

Glad I didn’t waste money on break barrels and went to PCP!

the mag kicks out every 3 pellet

I wouldn't take a Crosman if you gave it to me. They still making rifles where the scope rails fall off?

The magnum (GAMO) that you and your friend recommended me in one of your videos is PURE CRAP specially the 177 that shoots all over the 5.5 shoots better but not even good maybe 3 stars i ended up giving them away 🤔🤔🤔

Seems to be a lot of crosman butthurt here. Note on the triggers, the bearing mod alone just reduces pretravel and does not reduce the safety of the mechanism. Besides that, i can say from my own experience that gamos have consistently improved upon themselves over the last 15 years while crosman has remained the same old pigs in fancier, cheaper, more tacticool dress. Even their centerpoint brand scopes have gone down the toilet since they dumped leapers as their manufacturer in 2012. Gamo is not my absolute favorite, and i personally have no use for the swarm mech, but they absolutely blow crosman/benjamin out of the water in value and performance.

This dude give himself a expert tittle but he basically says everything that is printed in the manuals 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

How much did Gamo pay you for this review ? Seems you had made you're mind up before you even stareted

When i watched this, i feel like you approached this like a newbe instead of someone with the experience you have. Was kinda disappointing. Then you had your typical gamo commercial inserted in there. You know darn well the gun needs break in time, and search for your good pellet. You did not go into this video with the enthusiasm you have for your gamos.

sounds like this gun sucks honestly. i do like crossman pellets though mine always seems very uniform in my gamo.

Wait do you have to reload it after every shot? WTF!

11:26 Wow that is so weak I doubt you could hurt someone point blank firing it in their eye lol!

Got one and it's garbage too, what a waste of time and money

This is most lame air gun, I don’t take it even you give me for free

I don't believe a thing that you say watch your videos from as far back as 14 years ago

It's obvious that you are on the payroll for Gamo.

To much talking in here that it gets boring sorry

Gamo fan boy . You just stick with a vise locking down a pcp then u could hit something. Just messing with u . But u need to shoot more to get skills. Not with a gun locked down all u do is literally pull a trigger. You'll learn to shoot get some skills