Another Gospel with Alisa Childers | 🎙 Podcast

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Cross Examined

Cross Examined

3 жыл бұрын

There is a far deeper problem than atheism infecting the church. Alisa Childers, a Christian singer with ZOEgirl, almost got infected herself. She was challenged to renounce the true gospel and adopt another gospel- that of progressive Christianity. She joins Frank to tell her story and discuss her fabulous new book “Another Gospel,” which is part autobiographical and part apologetics.
Among the issues they cover:
How did your pastor try to convert away from the true Gospel?
What is progressive and Christian about progressive Christianity?
What are the basic beliefs of progressive Christianity?
What the signs of a person or church-going in that direction?
Why do people become progressive Christians?
How is progressive Christianity more intolerant than true Christianity?
What are its racist and Marxist roots?
What evidence do we have that the early Christians were conservative, not progressive?
How do you reach out to those who consider themselves progressive Christians?
Get the book! Here’s Frank’s endorsement: "I love this book! Alisa Childers takes you on a captivating journey from her unreflective conservative Christian faith to the cliff of another gospel and then back home to the true Jesus. Along the way, she deconstructs progressive Christianity with wit, insight, and easy-to-remember evidence. Another Gospel? will inoculate you from a temptation far more seductive than atheism. And it’s an enjoyable read too!"
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@Georgios1821
@Georgios1821 3 жыл бұрын
Dr.Turek, You have literally save my faith,because before I found your channel my faith was based only on my personal relationship with God and it was hard for me to explain some things. It was hard for me to put my mind in order as far as its concerning God,Christianity and Science,but now I have learned and understood from your videos so much and now I can prove to anyone that what I believe is based on evidence,solid facts and logical assumptions. And as thus I can spread the Truth,have successful debates and help everyone to come closer to God and strengthen their faith. May God bless you. Best wishes from Hellas🇬🇷☦
@breatheeasily4013
@breatheeasily4013 3 жыл бұрын
Same. God Speed
@jeffphelps1355
@jeffphelps1355 3 жыл бұрын
amen to that, Dr. Turek's teaching has given a rational perceptive on the Gospel.
@itsJPhere
@itsJPhere 3 жыл бұрын
What evidence exactly are you talking about?
@MartinKrupinsky
@MartinKrupinsky 3 жыл бұрын
Same 🙋‍♂️😁
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
A special new flavor of kool-aid.
@mbwilson8592
@mbwilson8592 3 жыл бұрын
Based on my own experience over the last few years, I think the "Christian light/dumbed down" version being preached in some churches, is directly related to the desire to bring more money in the doors. Operating as businesses above anything else. I was shocked and disgusted to learn how many churches in my area, took paycheck protection money- which locked them into having to follow the government rules for reopening. All the while, continuing to accept tithe money while keeping their doors closed. Really scary how easy it was for the government to gain massive power of the churches.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
Jesus willingly laid down His life and He raised it back. Self sacrifice is Biblical, amen!
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
So the story goes.
@guitarplyr327
@guitarplyr327 3 жыл бұрын
God sacrificed himself to himself? Cool
@guitarplyr327
@guitarplyr327 3 жыл бұрын
@G Will huh?
@dorianjohnson8480
@dorianjohnson8480 3 жыл бұрын
Churches don’t preach the gospel anymore and this is how false gospels really gain a footing. We’re too busy doing 5 part series on dating and self-help sermons for how we can have our best life now.
@elsablue3646
@elsablue3646 3 жыл бұрын
That's why my family has been out of the organized churches. How do you follow the Holy Spirit if you plan out each service and have churchianity instead of Jesus Christ the living God!
@adamjohns78
@adamjohns78 3 жыл бұрын
Really great conversation! I know a few who are really going down that road, and hopefully I’ll be able to apply some of these principles to intervene!
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
This lady quit that course after just 4 months because it was causing her to doubt. Yeh, education will do that with unreasonable beliefs.
@NewCreationInChrist896
@NewCreationInChrist896 3 жыл бұрын
Seek God’s will daily.🙏🙌 📖 1 John 1:8-10 Titus 2:11-15
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
If god is present in my body digesting my food replacing my cells and forming my thoughts how must I seek his will?
@36742650885
@36742650885 2 жыл бұрын
Please pray for me everyone that reads this I need deliverance
@KnighteMinistriez
@KnighteMinistriez 3 жыл бұрын
Good points. Great podcast, I love this ministry. Keep up the good work. God bless you.
@melindamercier6811
@melindamercier6811 3 жыл бұрын
13:33 I completely agree. It’s the answer to this question that is the one I can’t find any semblance of logic in with regard to the “progressive” church.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
A true Christian switches off the logic circuits of the cerebral cortex when discussing religion. I know what I'm talking about. My mother and sister are devout Catholics.
@nofrownzone9282
@nofrownzone9282 3 жыл бұрын
I like gospel/jazz, though I struggle with them for my channel, keep up the great work
@petarvasiljevic8764
@petarvasiljevic8764 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@jeffphelps1355
@jeffphelps1355 3 жыл бұрын
Faith = salvation = works
@justinmay8161
@justinmay8161 3 жыл бұрын
Frank the biggest problem we face in the church today, is the Word of Faith and progressive wolves that are inside the church. Most of the word believes those devils are the face of Christianity. It's very saddening.
@richardolivarri7928
@richardolivarri7928 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! But what exactly do you define as being progressive?
@justinmay8161
@justinmay8161 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardolivarri7928 Their quest to discredit the inerrancy of scripture, to deny the diety of christ, the authority of scripture, and several other aspects of historical christianity. That's the liberal church. Now, Word of Faith, their twisting of scripture is atrocious as well. That's the Joel Osteens and Kenneth Copelands, the world views them as the faces of the church as well 😒 Its heartbreaking
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, God does nothing. But keep on praying that he will one day
@justinmay8161
@justinmay8161 3 жыл бұрын
@Hi obviously I speak of the leaders of these churches. They are either willfully ignorant of the word, or intentionally deceptive for their own gain. The regular church goer follows their leader, so it's hard to blame them for trusting someone they hold in such high esteem, my heart goes out to them 😔 But we can reach them, some folks are willing to listen and aren't afraid to ask questions or question doctrine.
@low_budget-wojak
@low_budget-wojak 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@pescatoralpursuit1726
@pescatoralpursuit1726 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Dr Turek errs slightly in taking an adversarial stance.
@christeenasnyder
@christeenasnyder 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the way to play Spot The Lie, once more is knowledge in Christ of the Bible.
@StarCaptainClanner
@StarCaptainClanner 3 жыл бұрын
The question of why do they view the Christ through the lens of victimhood I think is based on 2 points: 1. They do not believe that sin separates us from God. (See Mrs. Childers remark on the story of Eden). The question then is: If sin does not separate us from God, why was Christ crucified? There answer has to be something evil. For instance 'We wanted out pound of flesh' as Mrs. Childers says. So God in his holiness, condescends to give us something evil? Instead of standing against sin, he gives into it? 2. Punishment for sin. Because of the first issue, then punishment for sin either doesn't exist in their worldviews, or they believe that it is only for specific people that are deemed evil. Barring the massive amount of questions that that proposition begs, in the end we are believing in two different deities. One who states that sin is wrong and because of it we are damned unless we seek forgiveness through the Son, by faith. The other that believes that sin is a minor issue that requires no atonement. If the two points above are believed, they then think of an innocent man who suffered for no reason. Therefore, he is a victim of some kind of cosmic cruelty. What a god they serve.
@ishiftfocus1769
@ishiftfocus1769 3 жыл бұрын
It is not the gospel of salvation merely to believe in Jesus; the devils do that (Mark 1:24, James 2:19). It is not the gospel to love Jesus with all our heart; the Muslims do that as well. “Making Jesus Lord” is something the Mormons include in their theology, and every good Hindu “accepts” Jesus (they accept thousands of gods). None of the beliefs above can save you from God’s rightful judgment against our sins. Paul clearly states the gospel of our salvation in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4. “… Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: …” - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 It was through Christ’s death that our sin is removed and we are justified. “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” - 2 Corinthians 5:21 We receive righteous standing with God by faith. “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:” - Romans 5:1 Belief in this gospel alone will save you and give you the grace of eternal life (Rom 6:23). First, we hear this gospel of grace. Second, we trust it, then we are saved: no more, no less. “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise…” - Ephesians 1:13
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
I knew this was going to be a long sermon. Who cares what these long ago cult members wrote in their ancient scrolls. I use my critical thinking to make decisions based on results.
@jabberjaw1067
@jabberjaw1067 3 жыл бұрын
John McCarther says the scripture says woman aren't to speak in church. Would be great if you could do a session on that topic. 1 Corinthians 14 34
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
This is Saul of Tarsus expressing his feelings toward women in his role as a founder of a new religious cult. 1 Corinthians 14 34 Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.… Yahweh did not care much for women either. Genesis 3:16 To the woman He said: "I will sharply increase your pain in childbirth; in pain you will bring forth children. You will desire your husband, and he will rule over you." 1 Corinthians 11:5 And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for it is just as if her head were shaved.
@lilacDaisy111
@lilacDaisy111 3 жыл бұрын
Does The Gospel Coalition fit this mould?
@jessitabonita
@jessitabonita 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing how ... interesting... Tim Keller specifically has been lately, and the numerous articles I see there that fit the CRT social justice gospell more than The Gospel, I would say perhaps.
@pescatoralpursuit1726
@pescatoralpursuit1726 3 жыл бұрын
Progressivism has the correct diagnosis but the wrong prescription for treatment. It recognizes that the love of God in the church has been replaced with legalism, but rather than return to the Lord, the source of love, it turns to the world's counterfeit of love which is politically correct permissability. Legalism has paved the way for Progressivism. Word of Faith taught us not to identify our faith with the transformation that occurs through fellowship and intimacy with the Lord, but rather place God outside of our hearts as a deal-maker or waiter, whose job is to procure for us the things we desire for an affluent lifestyle. As our hearts dried up for lack of fellowship with Holy Spirit, we turned to serving God according to rules which is legalism. Legalism is morphing into the Progressivism we see as a backlash, recognizing the love of God has been replaced with judgemental legalism, but rather than return to the love of fellowship with the Lord, it has in error sought instead the counterfeit love of the world which is politically correct permissability.
@kurtgundy
@kurtgundy 3 жыл бұрын
Do they belief in the Trinity?
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "Praxeas", though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine. The Holy Trinity became Church dogma in the third century. Praxeas was a Monarchian from Asia Minor who lived in the end of the 2nd century/beginning of the 3rd century. He believed in the unity of the Godhead and vehemently disagreed with any attempt at division of the personalities or personages of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the Christian Church. Wikipedia
@kurtgundy
@kurtgundy 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRichardWiley 3rd century? Really? That's interesting. Because Jesus defended the idea in the Gospels. So much for trusting Wikipedia.
@kurtgundy
@kurtgundy 3 жыл бұрын
@G Will And by the way, since God never changes, we should expect to find references in the OT. And SURPRISE. We do indeed. One of my favorites is Isaiah 48:15-16. The LORD God is speaking and says...the LORD has sent me with His Spirit.... What? The LORD sends the LORD with the Spirit of the LORD? Yes, you read that right. What do you suppose that means, Muslims, JW's, unitarians, progressive Christians?
@2012Jubilee
@2012Jubilee 3 жыл бұрын
Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) 1:2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the communities of Galatia: 1:3 Grace [be] to you and peace from God the Father, and [from] our Lord Christ Jesus, 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the Will of God and our (adopted) Father: 1:5 To Whom [be] glory for ever and ever. Amen. 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel (christianity): 1:7 Which is not another (because they "call" it christianity); but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the [True] gospel of Christ. 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you (to be "True to The Covenant" - "Covenanters"), let him be accursed. 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or [does] God [through me]? Or do I seek to please men? For if I yet PLEASED men, I should NOT be the servant of Christ. 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not from man. 1:12 For I neither received it from man, neither was I taught [it], except by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
@carlandre8610
@carlandre8610 3 жыл бұрын
Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand. Seek ye first The Kingdom of God and his Righteousness. Jesus is the Door the way to this Kingdom he is the King of Kings. You can be part of that Kingdom. You can have everlasting life. Jesus has paid the price for your Sin. Repent agree with God confess I e. Agree with God that you are a sinner. Trust in Jesus's work on the cross. You can be forgiven and made righteous that is Good News you can be free from sin, and be perfected, what good news you get adopted into God's Family.
@DarthVader99447
@DarthVader99447 3 жыл бұрын
If Jesus is God then why he said in gospel of mark chapter 13 verse 32 "and for the day or the hour, nobody knows when it will come. Not even the son nor the angels but only the father". Now if Jesus is God then why he said that he doesn't know the hour? God is all knowing. So Jesus should have known this if he was God. And it is clearly mentioned in book of acts chapter 2 verse 22 "ye men of Israel listen to this. Jesus of Nazareth a man approved of God amongst to you by wonders and miracles and signs which God did by him and you are witness to it". Read carefully "Jesus of Nazareth a man approved of God" not God approved of man but a man approved of God amongst to you by wonders and miracles and signs which God did by him and you are witness to it. Jesus says in gospel of john chapter 17 verse 3 "and this life eternal that you know the only true God and Jesus christ whom you have sent". Now if Jesus is God then why he said that God sent him? Please answer these
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
Read “How Jesus became god” by Bart Ehrman. It will answer all of your questions.
@DarthVader99447
@DarthVader99447 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moist._Robot Listen pal, you can believe that the earth is flat but it will not change the reality. I can even prove scientifically and logically that Jesus was not God. Logically: If Jesus is really Almighty God then God is unjust. Because there are many people out there who doesn't even know Jesus's name. Now if they die without knowing Jesus, will they go to hell? They were innocent. They always helped others and did good deeds but they didn't know Jesus. Yet will they go to hell? If they do then God is unjust. Because there are many people out there who doesn't even know Jesus's name. But we all know that God is never unjust. Since God is never unjust, God cannot be Jesus. Almighty God is God. God is one and only. God is eternal. God doesn't beget nor is he begotten. There is nothing like him. Scientific: God's creation is matter. Now we all know that Jesus was made of atoms. Atoms are a creation of God. So do you think that God is created by his own creation? No. God doesn't have any spiritual body nor any physical body. Because all of them are the creation of God. Every physical body is made of atoms which are a creation of God. Every spiritual body is made of spiritual matter which are a creation of God. That's the reason why God doesn't have any physical body nor any spiritual body. But Jesus had a physical body. So Jesus cannot be God.
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarthVader99447 Yes you’re right. Barts book would show you why you’re right.
@DarthVader99447
@DarthVader99447 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moist._Robot Listen pal, Christians always use the Bible to prove the trinity or the divinity of Jesus. But when is comes to science and logic, every Christian fails. Because no Christian can ever prove trinity or the divinity of Jesus(scientifically and logically). I have presented my arguments to you, now you can even call Christian prince or David wood to refute my arguments. But I know they can't. Because the truth always wins.
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarthVader99447 I’m agreeing with you. Jesus wasn’t god. His followers made him into a god after his death just like Julius Caesar before him.
@carlandre8610
@carlandre8610 3 жыл бұрын
Phase one more wars earthquakes famine false Messiahs Phase 2 worldwide persecution of the church A falling away people waxing cold. We are seeing the Church following false prophets. The kind that tickle their ears. The remaining Children of God getting down to preaching the true Gospel to the world. The one Jesus Preached Repentance and the Kingdom and God's Righteousness.
@carlandre8610
@carlandre8610 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus the Christ 2 natures Jesus fully man and sinless Christ God the Son. True God. All rolled up in one. The Word made flesh.
@sovereignindividual2625
@sovereignindividual2625 3 жыл бұрын
God is upset. God's wrath
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
God's happiness depends on what what you do even though he knows what you will do before you do it. Makes sense.
@markmbugua2358
@markmbugua2358 3 жыл бұрын
its mostly witchcraft, the deception i mean
@sovereignindividual2625
@sovereignindividual2625 3 жыл бұрын
Which is worse God's strong delusion or Satan's deception?
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
If your god is omnipotent from whom does Satan take his orders?
@guitarplyr327
@guitarplyr327 3 жыл бұрын
Satan told me god is the bad guy and he tried to stop him.
@guitarplyr327
@guitarplyr327 3 жыл бұрын
@G Will atheism is a non belief in gods. So your statement is a contradiction.
@2012Jubilee
@2012Jubilee 3 жыл бұрын
The First Principle of God's Government - Theocracy:- Jesus said, "I am The Way, the Truth and the Life" and "no man comes to the Father except by me." How does that relate to the Song of Moses (the Mosaic Law in The Covenant)? The Covenant is called "The Way" in The Torah (Deuteronomy chapter 9 verses 12, 16 and 11:28 and 13:5 and 31:29) and Jesus was saying that he was a living demonstration of it (The Way) in action, demonstrating how YOU have to be if YOU want to survive and go home to Father. Again we have perfect harmony between the two "Songs" - The Song of Moses and the Song of The Lamb. Mankind over 6,000 years has never yet been clever enough; because he is "blinded" by his own arrogance and selfishness; to see the Wisdom of The Covenant and God's Laws and that they are the ONLY way to peace and harmony. Arrogance and ignorance are the two sides of Satan's coin. Humility and Wisdom are the two sides of God's coin. In the day that man, in his Satanically inspired (and copied) arrogance, thought himself to be wise (like Satan did), he became a fool; fooled and deceived by his own ignorance of his own arrogance: ignorance that he tries to conceal with his arrogance, even from himself (just like Satan does). The Laws and Principles of Government, given by the Ruler of The Universe, via Moses, are what have maintained peace in the Universe for Eternity. If you want to be pardoned and released from this lunatic-asylum prison-planet, and from your human organic-computer prison-cell (body) and go home, back out into the Universe, back to where you came from and live forever, with your real family and friends, then you have to learn those Laws and Principles here and PROVE that you can keep and live by them, here under all and extreme conditions and temptations, before you can be trusted and released. The Messiah said in Revelation chapter 2 verses 26, 28, "To him that overcomes and keeps MY works unto The End, ........ will I give the Morning Star." I will give you an easy illustration for you to be able to better understand this Universal Principle:- If you have a hundred people of whom you are one and each person puts themself first and is out-for-themself and what they can get, then all you will ever have is competition, strife, violence and war. The history of this planet is proof of that fact. The strong will oppress the weak. The rich will oppress the poor. The clever will oppress the not so clever and there will be continual struggle for survival, leading to crime, violence, war and eventually total annihilation - Armageddon. How can there possibly NOT be? On the other hand; as Jesus demonstrated when he gave his life voluntarily for the benefit of everyone else; if you take exactly the same hundred people of whom you are one and everybody, including you, now puts everyone else first, before their "Self", then each individual, including you, wins ninety-nine times, because each individual has ninety-nine other people putting them first. However, it will not work unless every single person does it, because one bad apple RUINS the whole barrel. To explain even more clearly still, in terms that everyone should be able to understand, if they want to understand, one human family can amass an absolute fortune, under selfish, fraudulent, illegal laws; in the space of two hundred Earth years; and, in so doing, make millions of other people POOR and miserable. Imagine what would happen IF they were NOT human and lived for ever (zillions of years). How many poor people, and wars, and how much havoc; strife and misery could they then create? That is why you were sent here and are still here on this prison-planet because you are NOT really human and have never RE-learned those "Universal Principles" as you were COMMANDED to "on pain of death" and if you were released YOU would cause the very havoc that I have just told you about. God explained to you, via Moses, that those of you who will not LIVE by those Principles and The Law will DIE by The Law, and, contrary (the opposite) to what you have been told by priests of all denominations, He always says what He means and HE MEANS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAYS. Perhaps now you can see why God abolished the and all priesthoods except for The High-Priest, for all time, after the order of Melchizedek. - JAH Copyright © 1997 - JAH - all rights reserved. Please access:- "The New Song" for the full New Song and complete explanation. In the very little time that you have left to learn the New Song, before Execution-Day arrives; for those who are still committing treason; you had, if YOU want to survive, better REPENT and start learning to sing The New Song, "for the Kingdom of God IS AT HAND." - on The Rock (Gibraltar) - FIRST (Isaiah 42). You will be unable to do that without reading, digesting and Living "The Way home or face The Fire" by this author - JAH.
@sovereignindividual2625
@sovereignindividual2625 3 жыл бұрын
The bible has inaccuracies
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 3 жыл бұрын
The bible has inaccuracies, barbarism, contradictions, genocides, betrayals, blood sacrifices, vicarious redemption, infinite regression, and logical fallacies on page after page. The authors did the best they could to promote their beliefs.
@mathmadeeasyph2633
@mathmadeeasyph2633 3 жыл бұрын
How you say so? In terms of history, the Bible is ancient.
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
@@mathmadeeasyph2633 There are older writings than that bible. The bible stole many earlier myths and stories.
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
@G Will Well done. You’ve cracked my pseudo-name. 👍😀 I’ve also been Frank Oakenfold, Frank Fleming, Frank Van Dyk, Frank Willet, Frank Whitehead, Frank Fontaine, plus several more.
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
@G Will That’s the one brother. 👍
@Moist._Robot
@Moist._Robot 3 жыл бұрын
This lady quit that course after just 4 months because it was causing her to doubt. Yeh, education will do that with unreasonable beliefs.
@ddrse
@ddrse 3 жыл бұрын
But you guys at cross-examined don't even worship God. I'm always besides myself with the things you guys say.
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