LOL This guy's performance in the Broncos went down as soon as he started Crossfitting XD

It's funny how Knowshon did Crossfit, then sat out a bunch of games, healed up, stopped doing Crossfit, went back to his regular routine, and then was able to start playing again.

Start from square 1: A healthy, strong, athletic base, bury yourself into the ground practicing half reps, reps to failure, burning out your CNS, ruin your bar speed, ruin your explosive power, repeatedly fatigue your tendons, detrain into a slow twink with an elevated resting HR and rhabdo...sounds great for football.

Matt Chan's black voice is fucking hilarious.

I'm not going to sit here and call anyone stupid, but let me just post something for all to see... Knowshown Moreno (KM) Was drafted in 2009. In 2009, he played in all 16 games of his rookie year and started 9 games total. He rushed for 947 yards and 7 TDs, and also had 2 receiving TDs. Not a bad rookie year. In 2010, He played and started 13 games. He had 779 yards and 5 TDs, Also had 3 TDs receiving. Not bad, but not as good as we hoped he would do. Shortly after the end of the 2010 season, Moreno dropped in weight from around 220 to about 195, specifically to train in cross-fit. He spent the 2011 season on and off the bench due to a nagging hamstring injury all season, only had 179 yards rushing, and no TDs. 2012, his second straight year training with Cross-fit, was no different. Not only was his hamstring still bothering him, but he ended up tearing his ACL. And if you look it up, there are specific studies that talk about how a lot of cross-fit lifts not only take flexibility out of your muscles, but it also destroys a lot of muscle stamina. Shortly after 2012, KM was quoted saying that he "had put cross-fit training in his rear view mirror" and that it just wasn't for him. In 2013, after gaining his weight back and going back to more of a power lifting mentality, he had a breakout year, and the best year of his young career. He rushed for 1,038 yards and 10 TDs. He also had over 500 receiving yards and added 3 more touchdowns. He played in all 16 games as well. The statistics don't lie. Cross-fit, in my opinion, is not for sports like football. If you like cross-fit, good for you. But if you want to get bigger and stronger, just get in the gym and lift weights. Look up some body builders like Kai Greene or Jay Cutler and tell me if you would rather look like them or look like Matt Chan.

I would expect kshon to be box squatting way more I'm surprised. That's only like 345.

You couldn't be more correct, I have this exact conversation at least once a week!

him and peyton r gonna light up the NFL this year

I LOVE crossfit, best workout you can do, you got a bunch of people pushing with you, your fucking screaming pushing pumping each other up in a positive way I just love it hahaha great video

Great fantasy pick this year !

Matt Chan's mustache lifts more than I do.

i wish a crossfit gym was in michian i would love to get into this this is my kind stuff i need something like this

I'm a fellow instructor and incorporate two or three crossfit wods into my weekly training. I'd like to know which ones you find to be good. I like doing Grace 5-10 minute after finishing up heavy deads, I like Helen for general conditioning, and Fran as a finisher after a heavy pushing\pulling day. Are these good in your opinion? Any other worth?

Knowshon had an ACL tear in August of 2010... one year before he started CrossFitting. His ACL/hamstring continued to be an issue but it was before CF and continued after CF. Do your research and don't just look for stones to throw.

KnowMo a blast from the past. Blew out his ACL from CF. XD

Glad to see him have some success now. Just stay healthy!!!

Yep glad to see him being a beast now!

Dumbell curls, can't quite say we even do those. The clean or the clean & jerk replace a dumbell curl. We have dumbells, but unless you are doing them yourself, a static movement such as the dumbell curl, is not included in a wod.

Both of these dudes seem cool as hell.

I love Matt Chan, and I don't know why but he reminds me of Andy Bernard from the Office.

Wow, this man should make vids/instructions vids of excercises, I liked the lunge with bench,

We do max deadlifts, front squats, back squats, snatch, squat snatch, clean & jerk...etc. Crossfit is strength training, endurance training, agility, speed, flexibility (mostly upper body flexibility) all rolled up into one program. You never do the same thing in the same combinations, each day is different.

good observation, never thought about that

Great piece

What the hell is going on with that box squat?? Are they actually trying to fuck up his discs???

Many strength and conditioning Coaches are implementing this into team work outs to do something different. The workouts are brutal. Kid played D1 ball,he has some stories. He does cross fit now to stay in shape as he is done with football, With right trainer it can be extreme.

I just found it thank u :)

In football curls help you develop arm under speed.That is the position you take as a lineman or WR going into a blocking position. You need to drive both arms from your sided to up to chest level. The defender is taught to push your arms down.So,the bicep comes into play. Many people believe that bicep is all show no go,but it plays an important role in sports.

And what sport do curls help you in?

Louie Simmons can explain this a lot better than I. By pounding out those style work outs, you're never going to get stronger. You just can't generate enough force. You will get faster and build youre endurance for those activities, but you'll flatten out. By omiting the heavy squat, deadlift and even bench you're cutting you're training short.

this guy is one of the few very talented trainers affiliated with crossfit. i see trash form and many injuries that i treat due to crossfitting. he should be the standard for their coaches, smart, good cueing, observent of form, good job matt chan.

We do strength as only "part" of crossfit. Like maxing out for example. We have max out days also. Like I said though, that's just one small part of the total package.

it just goes to show you that no matter what level you are at, keeping an open mind can only help you

I crossfit...3 months in, I love IT. It forces me to reach down into my soul and be and strive for my best, it has helped me to find a better me. I laugh when I read and hear about people scoffing, and hating. Everyone has an opinion, wants to critque. The old saying remains true, dont knock it till you rock it. In my box, the first rule is to leave your ego at the door. When people dont do this they get hurt. Dont try to overdo it, you know your body....push yourself but be smart.

Crossfit is essentially the training form that follows the saying "jack of all trades, master of none". Being a professional athlete u are a master at your specialized sport

This is EXACTLY what Crossfit is all about, there's room for all. Awesome video!

crossfit has its benefits but at then end of the day as a pro athlete there are better things to be doing

Yes, this is just the beginning!!

Love #27 Can't wait for my session at 0700 Pledge Fitness Training in Downey Ca

That's cool!

Curls help in kick boxing and bjj. For kick boxing it helps your clinch and control for knees.... in bjj it helps close guard and also helps defend against getting your arm ripped off in an arm bar... also the additional girth will help in defense as well for bjj and kick boxing. Judo and most martial arts use many push and pull motions that benefit from strong biceps. In basketball bicep strength helps will pulling down rebounds and stripping the ball in basketball AND football.

I struggle with thrusters too, can anyone let me know how to loosen up the back that matt chan talks about?

i would be interested to know how his season went and how he performed and how different he felt and how he thinks he performed.

This is the most logical comment against crossfit i have read. I like you, well played sir! (I am a crossfitter, I don't do 1000000000 reps).

that's gotta be awesome to workout with a NFL

pretty cool vid

6:20's comment is spot on. An athlete that already has elite fitness but not familiar with our techniques. Some Crossfit enthusiasts get caught up in their own hype and claim to be "fitter" than pro athletes. Those type of cross fitters can attract negative attention

CrossFit is great and all, but it has no place in the world of strength athletes who require training specificity and power, over endurance and exercise variation.

I agree with you 1000%

i do agree that some of the things done in crossfit workouts in a bit out there and at times does seem to lack reward, but overall i think its a good program. that is just my opinion though. what works for me may not work for others as we all know.

first year with crossfit 159 rush yards, first year after he stopped doing crossfit and went back to his former training he had over 1000 rush yards

oh jesus no they're starting to take the real athletes. first klokov now this. it's all over.

Knowshon seems like a real cool dude

Good Luck, K-Shon!

Maybe I should do some more curls.. Should I eat 17 pizzas and drink 5 protein shakes after I do a few sets of curls too? Would that help me be more like you?

Sorry might be a misinterpretation on my part but did you say crossfit outstrips olympic weightlifting for explosive strength and lean muscle???

Curls helps work and improve 4 muscles on your arm. Biceps Brachii, Brachialis( muscle underneath lower part of the biceps), Brachioradialis (muscle at the outer side of the lower arm and forearm), and your Stabilizers.( stabilizers help fixate the shoulders, scapula, and wrists) Although there are better excercises for improving these muscles, curls do benefit many athletes from variety of sports. Track; arm strength and position is very important to a track sprinter. Shot-put, baseball...

JThank gaaaaddd my high school we did cross fit combined with swimming.

how good is crossfit for earning muscles?

Love the Broncos, Love Chan!

I have a question, have you considered this plan called the MegaMax Muscle Maker? (google it). My friend says it helps people bulk up.

Oh I see. Well again, thats a bit of a flexibility issue but having a bit of experience with heavy front squats I can definitely relate. Your upper back really has to stabilise the weight, but as it gets heavier your legs might be able to handle the weight but your upper back not (definitely for me as my legs are kind of way ahead of my upper body). I've had times where once I hit the bottom and come up my elbows are a lot lower than what they should be.

They both get their power from their superb moustaches.

Actually a lot when lifting things, it's really useful. Don't say bodybuildling is useless, don't say crossfit is useless. It are seperate sports

While you may be correct most fitness facilities are staffed by trainers that do not really now about Exercise and Sport Science.

Depends on what you mean by muscles. Crossfit probably isn't for someone who wants to bulk up a lot, because the intense cardo aspect of it uses a lot of calories. On the other hand, if you want to build lean muscle and improve explosive strength, than Crossfit far outstrips traditional weightlifting.

Great video, I love the time aspect and trying to finish the workout in faster times. The stuff is brutal though.

A friend of mine is a CrossFit Trainer and he guided me through every workout. We hit gym 6 days a week, 5 days of Olympic lifting followed by the daily WOD. 1 day of active recovery and stretching and 1 day of complete rest. Last but not least.. I ate extremely healthy.

So, did he continue to do it this past summer? Because he tore his ACL the season after this was filmed.

the stash makes the video

yea the thrusters are hard, what ones the thruster again ?

what is the song at the very start?

where is this gym?

Like? What other type of program trains people to be like an athlete? I only know of Crossfit that does this. It uses olympic lifts in the workout. It's like how a Military person would train for combat. There is no use to be able to bench x amount of weight, or squat x amount of weight to people like a boxer, martial artist, military, basketball player...etc. Stamina, endurance, speed, agility and strength are all important to someone like that. Just slow heavy weights does not aid that

love crossfit

That's one thing that is definitely needed in Crossfit. Diversity!

it took MacGahee to get injured for Knowshon to get more reps. Hope he can continue to play well and start there or anywhere else.

Does any one knows what is the name of his his shoes on 1.59?

any athlete whether it be basketball or football or whatever, has a lot to gain from crossfit, dont let anyone tell you otherwise, i play basketball for a living and have see the best results ever since starting crossfit, strength wise and self image wise.

damn dude how long have you been bulking? lmao

All dat power you could gain.

That's just it though. Deadlift would be followed by an 800m run, Burpees then a set of double unders or some wallballs. Then you would have to repeat that either as many times as possible for a give time, or a specified number of rounds as fast as you can. He may be able to do 1000lbs but can he do 500lbs with everything else listed for 5 rounds in under 8min. Those are just hypothetical numbers but you get the idea.

Should also add that I personally love Crossfit as a supplement to our specific disciplines training and respect the hard work 99% of cross fitters put in

indeed my friend

Pretty sure they don't as we have dumbells there. You kind of just have to do that on your own though if you want, as it's not included in WODs. Crossfit WODs involve compounded body movements (i.e. Thruster is a movement that involves the whole body). Nothing about dumbell curls is aerobic or compounded. It's sitting there and curling and that's it, no heavy oxygen demand for the muscles. Getting Bulk is not in a Crossfit WOD. Stamina, agility, speed and strength usually are one in a WOD

For all those people talking about how crossfit increases injuries, I have a question for you - what causes more injuries: crossfit or football?

It's completely open source, anyone can go to the website and see the WOD and do it. I did it on my own for 6mnths. the "Open" does cost 20 bucks to post your scores and qualify for the games though...

Wait I'm not sure I understand, he got to 40 strict or kipping pull ups??

"HOW MANY??"! lol!

Of course Knowshon makes it looks good, he's a professional with years of proper training.

amen

Not really it all depends on what your goals are. I’m more into the traditional bodybuilding style of working out because that’s what’s going to give me the results I want...the look and body I want. I have nothing against crossfit, done it a few times and it’s a hell of a workout but it’s not going to get me where I want to be

This is where you fail to understand what Crossfit programs are like. I can tell you haven't experienced a crossfit program based on your comment. We do max days as well. Endurance is NOT the only part of Crossfit. You build strength by doing 1 rep maxes. I weighed about 235lbs when I started Crossfit. I'm down like 215 and I deadlift 440lbs. The heavy lift is not Omitted in Crossfit. It's a "part" of the program, but not the only part like regular weightlifting (one dimensional).

WORD!

Colleges have the best as many pro's do not like the program their strength coach uses and they use their college coach,do their own thing or do not lift. Walter Payton developed his own program. One portion called Payton's hill was renown as he would bring in team mates and other athletes to run up the side of a hill that was unbelievably steep.

Is it a coincidence that knowshon Moreno had his best season after ( 2012 ) starting CROSSFIT I think not!!!

Hello, have you wondered this thing called the Max Muscle Method? (do a google search). My coworker says it gets people stronger.

damn your squats went up by 135? How were you able to learn a lot of the Olympic lifts that Crossfit requires?

thanks for the info (seriously, i didn't know that) i'm going to bang some of these out

...yes.