Crude Luthier Vids: Intro to Chladni testing on a guitar

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Chuck Morrison

Chuck Morrison

Күн бұрын

This is how I locate resonance frequencies using the Chladni technique.

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@CMRWoodworks
@CMRWoodworks Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff. I will eventually get into this as I progress, I suppose.
@HalcyonGuitars
@HalcyonGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see a monopole shape at such low freqs…
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 2 жыл бұрын
I've made guitars that show monopole, long and cross dipoles below 100 Hz as well. Those aren't showing here on this redwood top.
@user-xs2nb6jz7c
@user-xs2nb6jz7c 8 ай бұрын
What is the power of you frequency generator set-up? Love you videos.
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 8 ай бұрын
I don't know what it's ouput is. I did use a kill-a-watt meter (on the input) and at the highest volume it drew ~75 watts for the loudest frequency. I never use it at full volume. I set it about 1/2 way, although I don't know if it's linear or logarithmic.
@willmorrison1022
@willmorrison1022 2 жыл бұрын
I have always found this to be fascinating. But I have one question: How would one do this on an arched top or back? I see all these Chladni patterns on violin tops but I can't figure out how the medium stays on the arched plates. Doesn't gravity have anything to say about this? There is some rather serious angling going on in a violin top, how do they keep it from just falling down to the rim of the plate? I have never understood this. And that's annoying, I have several arched tops that I would like to do this on, but can't figure out quite how. Any suggestions?
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 2 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it would depend on the type of material you use. I believe Cladni used iron filings, which may be rough enough to stick to sloped surfaces until vibrated off. I've tried several things that bounced right off a flat topped guitar. Thus my preference for course ground pepper. I'm guessing you'd have to ask a violin maker.
@Norm7264
@Norm7264 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand why the nodes at resonance are some distance away from the sides of the body. I would've expected that there would be zero displacement (=node) where the top meets the sides. Any insight? (or perhaps my expectation was wrong?)
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison Жыл бұрын
It is a bit odd on this particular instrument. I'm pretty sure that this is a result of the way I "squeezed" the X brace so that it is narrower than the standard angle. I also only used one finger brace on each side of the X. I have not seen the node line extend to where the top meets the sides on the fundamental frequency(s). It is usually 12-25 mm in from the sides, although that can very depending on the powder used and the amplitude and/or placement of the driver.The secondary harmonic that divides the top in two longitudinally usually gets much closer to the sides.
@Wdreynolds1979
@Wdreynolds1979 2 жыл бұрын
What model frequency generator do you have in this video? I recently decided to start testing my builds
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 2 жыл бұрын
I use a frequency generator built by Don Bradley, who is unfortunately no longer with us. If you have a way to amplify sound from your phone to a speaker, check out the luthierlab app. It has a lot of great functionality including a frequency generator.
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