Thank you very much for the feedback iniBuilds! As I tend to state in my videos, unfortunately the best I can do most of the time (when it comes to these more unusual aircraft), is to make an educated guess regarding the flight model etc. I’m quite surprised by the aileron authority issue (I’m genuinely curious to know why being upside-down, reduces aileron effectiveness to that point?), but far be it for me to question those who have actually flown the Taifun haha. I think the ground trim option will be a good one. I would assume (though perhaps I am wrong) that most Bf108 operators would have adjusted the aircraft’s trim tabs for straight and level flight. Even if that isn’t the case, it will make the aircraft more pleasant to fly in the sim. I’ve pinned this comment, so that hopefully viewers can get a more rounded picture of the product (it’s always very helpful when devs can chip-in and give such feedback, so thanks for that!). Cheers and all the best : )

You and me both, CurleeToes! : )

I’ve been asking for the 109 since the dawn of this simulator

Thanks very much for the info Daniel, very interesting (you’re a much better tour guide than me haha). I did actually learn that the castle / palace was built by Ludwig II, but then his name completely escaped me as we came overhead XD That other stuff is very interesting though, as I say. It would have been cool to check out Hohenschwangau also then, though I don’t recall that one being modelled in the sim. . . Thanks very much! Will do and all the best : )

Thanks very much Rafael! I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight / scenery and indeed that you’re enjoying the content in general : ) Much appreciated. Happy flying and all the best!

You’re most welcome Conleth! Have the FBW team given any details, as to when they expect that chunky monkey to be released haha? All the best : )

Thanks very much DT, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! IniBuilds have stated, that most of the behaviours I encountered during the video are “true to life” of the real-world aircraft, though the dev will apparently be offering an option via the tablet, that allows the user to select whether the rolling tendency is modelled or not (a reasonable concession for the sim I think, otherwise the Taifun just isn’t that pleasant to fly with typical sim hardware). I’m not sure as to whether the product has been updated yet - I haven’t had a chance to look myself. Cheers again and all the best! : )

Thank you very much sir, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! Very high praise indeed and much appreciated haha - it’s always great to hear that someone is enjoying the content. I do verrrry occasionally do group flights, but we’re only taking about 1 a year roughly haha. Partly it’s a time issue - I generally don’t have the time to organise these things, but also there seems to be very limited appetite for such events (usually I can only string together a handful of participants at best). I do have a “group flights” sever on my Discord, so it’s worth keeping an eye out there and I’m sure I will organise something before the end of the year haha. The channel membership is really just there for those that are interested, though there are some associated “benefits”, including an early-access video playlist, a private Discord “lounge” and the occasional private post / update etc. Thanks very much once again and all the best! : )

Hi Damon, Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it. I did actually custom load the aircraft ahead of the flight; just 2 in the front and a small amount of luggage down the back. I have heard that aileron trim does the trick on the Bf108 (I only tried rudder trim), so I shall have to give that a go. I don’t regret my purchase either, but given the number / quality of addons we have available to us now within the sim, I can’t see that the Taifun is going to be garnering much of my attention (sadly). Cheers and all the best! : )

Thanks very much Kiwicomm, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I’m very much planning on reviewing the the ATR, hopefully (work permitting) not too long after it’s released. The ATR is an aircraft I have no prior experience with, in any sim, so I’m very much looking forward to getting stuck in and NZ does once again sound like the perfect location for a flight! ; ) Cheers and all the best!

Apparently the real bird is only rated for 7kt crosswind. Or so I heard. Definitely fly this one in calm weather.

7kt is a fair bit if the wind isn't directly abeam, I'd be surprised if the model could handle even that.

Haha, I don’t think that’s entirely unfair RD XD The Taifun is one of those aircraft that just looks like it would be a joy to fly and sadly that’s just so far from being the case currently (I wasn’t kidding, when I said I had a stiff arm / back at the end of the flight haha). Now of course, looks aren’t everything and it may well be that the aircraft had its vices, but one doesn’t need to be have been born in the 1910’s and be called Hans, to know that the flight model has some very strange behaviours currently. I’d like to think that iniBuilds will continue to work on the Bf108, but if the P-40 is anything to go by, we aren’t going to be getting any drastic updates, sadly. . . Thanks for your thoughts. All the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I've read some flight tests since ( sadly no flight tests with data yet ) and they all paint a picture of a pretty sporty aircraft with some good handling, but of it's time. It does not have a constant speed prop ( I can't remember if the ini one does ), and it has some squishy landing gear which I think they made an attempt at. There was a note somewhere about some rather interesting ground handling. If I could find a flight test from the RAE or NACA with some instrument traces then I'd have a go at it, but there's little to start with unlike say, the FI Spitfire which is bang on in a lot of areas already.

After editing the mod FM to loosen the handling, I can say the18 has gone from a disappointment to something of a favourite. Quite a transformation.

@@Karibanu The sounds are a bit wacky though... looping and not mixed well. But it does fly nice. Maybe I need to loosen the handling. I find the pitch axis needs a whole lot of input to do anything.

@@CCitis Yeah, it's very stiff/overstable, which not only makes it horrid in turbulence but harder and less entertaining to fly than it should be. It's actually a fairly agile aircraft ( aerobatic too ), but its also a 30s twin transport a/c and there are limits... Sounds aren't great, aren't awful enough to really bug me.

Hi Jeremy, That is actually one that I very much plan on covering, not least of all because I’ve been having a cracking time with the Beech 18 mod myself (it would be even better, if I could actually land the darn thing haha XD )! Most likely the next video will be a hardware review, but pending any other major product releases in the mean time, I’ll probably look at Beech 18 mod thereafter. Cheers for the suggestion. All the best : )

You’re most welcome Otohikoamv! Haha, well I haven’t flown too many virtual Messerschmitts previously, though I did spend quite a bit of time with the 109 in DCS and that thing was rather special (somehow, the feeling of flight in that thing, was just above and beyond most other virtual aircraft - especially in VR!). I don’t tend to do much in the way of aerobatics outside of my reviews and was really looking forward to picking up the 108 as a tourer also. To add to my findings during the review, apparently one can bind hardware to the aileron trim function and use that to null out the left wing down tendency (though that sounds like a bit of a workaround to me). Even then though, the pitchiness of the FM etc, does not make the Taifun particularly relaxing / enjoyable to fly (sadly). I wasn’t kidding when I said I had a stiff arm / back by the end of the flight - getting old sucks haha! XD I’m glad the review was useful at any rate. Hopefully iniBuilds will continue to work on the aircraft. Cheers and all the best! : )

Haha, I can relate! I was doing a bit of touring with the Ant's Aeroplanes Tiger Moth under the previous sim update, and also got a sore arm, especially in turbulence. It's gotten a little easier with the reduced turbulence settings in the latest sim update, but it can still be a handful. Granted, sometimes that's exactly what an aircraft needs to be (vintage helicopter or glider flying would be very strange if it didn't require a lot of input all the time!) - but something just feels off about 108 flying like that. So I'm still on the lookout for a more perfect 1930s (non-US-built) tourer. And no disrespect meant to the 109 (and the 110, and the 262) - I really have a soft spot for them as well, and they are rewarding to learn and fly. I agree that the DCS 109 is a spectacular plane, too. But they tend to be very unforgiving - I've snapped more virtual wings, gear struts, and other parts off Messerschmitts than any other airplanes over the years. 109s can be very nasty at the edges of their flight envelope, and consistently one of the hardest (simulated) planes to handle landing and on the ground in general. And being the energy fighter they are, they also take a lot of mental load to fight in compared to more of a classic turning fighter. So, they can be very nasty to fly, especially starting out, but very satisfying to get proficient in. Just not my first choice for a relaxing, scenic flight, that's for sure :)

Haha, I took the Tiger Moth on a bit of a trek around the Alps on one occasion, the flight became more of a chore than anything; having to constantly counter turbulence and search high / low for some ridge lift, in order to make it into the next valley. I think I’ll stick the rolling hills of England next time XD As much as I love the 109 in DCS, I never was much good at fighting with it. I think I played too many early generation flight sims and now all my brain can compute is a turning fight haha (I just don’t have the discipline to keep my speed up in an energy fight - I really should practice that. . .). Cheers once again! : )

Ah, well there you go haha! That was completely unintentional on my part, but I’m glad it tied in with the Xbox release ; ) I agree with yourself and others; fortunately, we’re finally in a position where there is now a good selection of solid addons available and simply being the newest addon, is no longer generally enough (I guess it’ll just be me that has to keep buying all the new addons, for the sake of review haha XD ). The Bf108 is okay in most respects, but hard to recommend against the likes of FlyingIron’s, Got Friends’ and even “Asobo’s” most recent efforts. I’m glad you enjoyed the review Péter, hope you’re enjoying the MD-500 also! Cheers : )

Ahh ok, thanks Gary! It didn’t look like there were any aileron trim controls in the cockpit, so I assume the aircraft didn’t have any such capability in reality (not that I’m averse to using it as a result). I did try using my hardware for rudder trim, to no avail, I’ll have to assign something to aileron trim instead then. . . Cheers for the info! Much appreciated : )

Hi Jigsaw, Well, that’s all that really matters haha! So long as you’re enjoying it, that’s the main thing. In fairness, it’s not that I dislike the aircraft, far from it, I just wish the flight model held up as well as the rest of the product. I did subsequently find out about the aileron trim trick but as you say, I’d rather hoped the iniBuilds ground crew might have taken care of the trim tabs for me XD Happy flying and all the best! : )

Haha, I have heard that the Taifun doesn’t handle well in turbulent conditions - I guess I got rather lucky on this flight then XD I’m sure I’ll spend some more time with the 108; I do hope iniBuilds see fit to tweak the flight model a little more though. Happy flying and all the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah, I guess, after watching your video, it does have some very strange characteristics. As I'm not a pilot I never know what is realistic or not. I tend to assume the developer knows better, but I guess that's not always true. I'm just a sucker for pretty vintage birds ha.

Haha, well most of my feedback for these sort of aircraft is an “educated guess” in fairness. Of course, it’s very hard to know how such a machine may have flown, especially when I haven’t really flown anything similar. That being said, most aircraft have certain similarities from one to the next and it’s usually apparent when something is “off”. The older the aircraft, the harder it is to really offer up any concrete critique though, as older aircraft did quite often have unusual flying characteristics, vices etc. iniBuilds actually left some informative feedback in the comments section. I’m not sure it 100% excuses the flight model, but it’s certainly very constructive and well worth a read. Like you, I certainly enjoy these sorts of vintage birds though! Cheers Gary : )

Indeed Deku! iniBuilds have been close with both the P-40 and the Taifun, to putting out some brilliant addons (considering the price). Unfortunately, I feel both offerings have been a little bit marred by their FM’s (which especially on release, have tended to have some rather fundamental flaws). I do hope the team continue working on the FM of the Taifun, as I’d love to spend some more time with the Bf108. I didn’t realise iniBuilds were going to be doing a Tornado also. That’s 3 we’ll have in development for the sim then (iniBuilds, India Foxt Echo and Just Flight), in true MSFS fashion XD Cheers, all the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations after careful review, I realize I've confused inibuilds for indiafoxtecho. Man, I was OUT of it that day lol. They ARE working on a A300-600F and a spartan 7w executive though.

Haha! Well I hope you’re feeling more compos mentis again now, DL : P I’m very much looking forward to the A300-600F! I’m undecided on the Spartan, but I’m sure it will be another beautiful looking / sounding model at the very least. Cheers : )

Indeed it is MZ! There’s definitely a certain grace / elegance to the Bf108’s design and iniBuilds have done a very nice job at capturing that : ) Cheers, all the best!

Haha, are you mocking my expert and historically accurate pronunciation, Jocking?! XD In fairness, I did take some time ahead of the video, to try and get the pronunciation correct, but as soon as I got into the flying, my brain almost entirely ditched that info haha. I tried. . . ha Cheers, all the best! : )

True Dream! Both in the sim and for sure in the real world also : )

i have flown for years with gliders over the south side of the Swiss/ItalianAlps. Yes, it is true, there is hardly a most scenic place where to fly ... huge Mountains, lakes, and plenty of wonderful airports. In Switzerland, after two years of MSFS only two small airport are missing, all the others, free or pay are there.

@@antonioiozzi291 Ah man I'd love to fly there. Only thing I ever do there is driving on the mountain passes and just going on vacations. Fortunately in two weeks I'll be driving through the Swiss and Italian Alps again though. But yup the Alps and southern Germany are basically my favourite place to fly in.

In the real world you have to consider the high altitude problem if you don't know the Alps (the rules for mountain flying in general) and the less hp you have with aspirated engines vs turbocharged. In 40 years I have seen a lot of inesperienced pilots (or even experienced ones) killed over the Alps. Bad wheather, wind and rotors play a big role in incidents.

@@antonioiozzi291 The Alps in general are a dangerous place. For flying, outdoor sports and so on. The weather is quite tricky too. It can switch up on you really fast. So having an IFR rating would probably be quite beneficial to have.

Cheers Sam, much appreciate! All the best : )

Same here Ryan, I am very much looking forward to both! : )

I’m not too sure about the ailerons, Norm. According to iniBuilds, the flight model mimics the real-world behaviour of the aircraft, as stated by real Bf108 pilots. I can’t quite wrap my head around why a loss of authority during inverted flight would take place, but perhaps I’m missing something. . . Either way though, as you say, a very beautiful looking / sounding model! Cheers, all the best : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Anyhow - I bought it, thanks to you 👊😎 and I really like it!

Ah well that’s great Norm haha! Happy flying : )

Hi Mike, The route is Füssen (EDGD) to St Johann (LOIJ). I tracked via Innsbruck, basically just following the contours of the valleys. Just note as well, the St Johann scenery is not default, it was a download from Flightsim.to. The route is well worth checking out! Very picturesque and not too long / not too short ; ) I’m glad you enjoyed the video / flight! I think either way, you’re better off saving your pennies when it comes to the Taifun haha (at least with the FM in its current state). All the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations ah right best save my QUID ATM.

Haha, it is indeed, Mike. The Taifun isn’t baaaad and I think iniBuilds may have updated the flight model a little bit but, there are numerous other addons that are more deserving of your money ; ) Many thanks again, much appreciated!

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for the reply and Ill wait till that dec holiday maybe Father Christmas will bring something :)

I believe you’re correct Norman, yes : ) All the best!

Haha! Indeed, I think that’s very fair criticism UG. Cheers, all the best! : )

I’m at a schloss for words

That is a shame Renegade, as I gather Hohenschwangau is a proper medieval castle. It would have been nice to check that out as well. . . Cheers, all the best! : )

Haha! You should know better than that by now, Roland : P In fairness, I don’t think anybody wants to wait a couple of weeks to find out whether or not a product is any good, hence why I made this a flight as much as a review. Making reviews is a funny thing though; a lot of people seem to watch them retrospectively (even when I get the video out the same day), which I would have thought renders the content rather useless, but if people are watching, who am I to complain haha! XD I really hope the FM gets some more care and attention, the Bf108 is otherwise a wonderful looking / sounding machine as you say. Flight models don’t seem to have been iniBuilds strong point in MSFS to date. . . Cheers once again! : )

Hello again Michael, Thanks very much, I’m really glad you enjoyed the route! The airfield ID’s are available in the video description (I try to include them there, when I remember haha). Departure was out of Füssen (EDGD) and arrival was into St Johann (LOIJ) - I tracked via Innsbruck (LOWI). Please just note, that the St Johann scenery is not native to the sim, it was a freeware scenery that I downloaded from Flightsim.to. I hope that helps. Cheers, happy flying and all the best! : )

Hi Jo, It does. There is an option (via the onboard tablet) to select a more modern avionics setup, which includes a com radio, transponder etc. I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )

Running the improvement mod?

Great stuff Guilherme! As Jeremy points out, there’s a superb improvement mod for the Beech 18, well worth checking out (if you haven’t tried it yourself already). Either way, enjoy the flight! : )

Hello David, I enjoy the A310, for its retro systems if nothing else, but I agree that even after the update, it’s pretty FPS hungry and the flight model feels strange in a couple of areas. I have to say, given how much praise there is for iniBuilds efforts in X-Plane, I was expecting slightly more from them in MSFS, specifically with regards to flight models (otherwise, they make some very nice products). Cheers, all the best! : )

Voice changer.

Hi Barrett, The RT effect is something I add during editing, using a program called Audacity. The effect can’t be created “on the fly”, so far as I’m aware, but I’d be happy to outline the details behind how to create it, should you so wish. Cheers and all the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes i would like to know more. i want something that i can add as a source in my streamlabs.

Hi Barrett, I actually made a short video (for someone else) regarding the technique. Feel free to give it a watch: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7SZf5hosMjNYqc.html Just be advised, I’ll be taking the video down in the coming days (so better to watch it sooner, rather than later). I hope that helps! Cheers : )

I’d say it’s a bit of both KAP; MSFS has twitchy handling characteristics at the best of times, but with the Bf108, this twitchiness is more pronounced still. I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )

Haha, it’s certainly a fair point Antonio! There are a large number of quality addons now available for the sim, so addons such as this, do somewhat struggle for a seat at the table (with a better flight model, the Bf108 would have been a great addon though). Cheers, all the best! : )

Haha, a very good point Chris! Admittedly, I didn’t consider that at the time, though I don’t believe that was the case / such drag is modelled. Others have reported that aileron trim can be used to null out the left rolling tendency (a hardware binding will need to be assigned though, since no such control exists on the aircraft). I gather iniBuilds are going to update the aircraft and allow users to choose whether or not the flight model displays the left wing heavy behaviour. This makes sense, as I would imagine in reality, a fixed trim tab would have been adjusted for level flight in the cruise. Thanks for your thoughts! All the best : )