Throgg don’t care throgg want spider

THE HERO AIS SO DUMB

So biggest question, what about Season 3?

SEASON 2 WHEN IM GOING TO SPAM THIS TILL ITS ANNOUNCED!!!

And there's a dfference His brother couldn't even run, if he could he would be alive :v

Julius fought valiantly, Julius fought nobly, Julius fought honourably. And Julius died.

Weeeeell To be fair, the odds were heavily stacked against him

Julius was revealed to have a very similar character to Shun, and no, he wouldn't have run. And the story punishes noble thoughtless actions like that.

@@leonel392 yeah lol, in the novel im pretty sure she just orbital strikes him, i dont remember 100% tho.

damn right good choises

That's so true

Kuniko episodes aren't unlimited budget works their unlimited spider works

Is this a good opportunity to mention that Wrath is basically an Archer ripoff?

Domain Expansion: Infinite Budget

Spoiler One became nothing more than another statistic, the other became a god. Hmm. I wonder if that means something.

He ran because he knew who she is. But that didn't help

To be fair with Julius, this poor guy was totally beaten up and didn't even had the time to think about running away before being Thanosed XD

Well to be fair to Julius, he was actually doing pretty damn well during the battle until White walked on to it.

Yeah, Julius was an idealist but not an Idiot. He is actually a rather decent character when you get his story proper even knowing acting how he did "the brave unshakable hero" would get him killed young the moment he ran into something stronger than him. Yet he felt giving his one life in exchange for all the people he could save by standing tall even when running might be in his best interest was something worth doing, the sacking of Vampy's home town - the horrors of war that happened to it he blames on himself for having failed to take a stand or even consider what his siding with the attacking army meant. Julius was the type who knew he would die and decided being an actual hero "a symbol of hope amidst the evils and savagery of the world" was worth his life saving the many his fighting would spare cowering behind him. Shun is just starstruck blinded without even knowing the reality of Julius' grim resolve, would Julius have run from Sophia in Shun's situation? No however he would have certainly been urging his companions to flee as well as actually having a discussion with the chatty super vamp instead of yelling emotional bile and swinging a sword around like a club.

..... fair enough

Oka

Lol

Obviously because of the demon queen who wouldn't want to be

Shun:i have blue hair and a brother complex Demon lord:we have a spider *by majority vote, Demon army wins*

that implies Shun had a functioning brain

Shun: Do you maybe want to elaborate on that. Considering you guys killed my father, brother, took over my kingdom. And all the evidence is against you? Kyouya: Naaa

@@TheAniSi why waste time with an ant at this point

Me: That’s not bad that’s just what war is I mean it’s still pretty bad, but don’t pretend you’ve never killed anyone

Fr

Oni-sama

Fr he simps for his brother more than his little sister Simps him. You know it sorta seems like simping runs in the family

@@Youthinasiaa Nah the sister is worse, she even killed her own father because of her "love" for her brother, Shun is dumb but he is not a psycho.

@@Dangsm she was under mind-control and hypnosis??

Onichan daiskie

im stuck at volume 10 is sophia still stronger than warth ?

@@abdouaboud7490 Not sure, but it’s almost not worth mentioning. Either one is so hopelessly powerful Shun’s party could never do a thing. And even if they could, you know…wrath.

@@abdouaboud7490 there probably still about the same.

@@yorunoryu4764 base stats would be sophia but wrath has a bigger boost with his "berserk enhancements".

@@abdouaboud7490 spoiler, wrath with his skill has 99,999 stats(stronger then the demon king on her best day)

That is way everyone hates Shun

That’s what Sophia was talking about right after that line.

Also, (spoiler alert - just in case) that literally what Kumoko says to him in their first fight & she also says something to the tune off "you sound like some generic isekai protagonist." P.s. he totally is!

@@vicente2044 trust me especially those that read the WN hates Shun with a passion. He’s a brother simp, hero-complex, ignorant but then super mega ignorant idiot.

@Imouto Therapy: Agreed, It's as Sophia said mr hero's lived a cozy and cushy life since he was born. What's more...he's got the nerve to talk about the world when he's BARLEY been out in it.!

They’ve known the truth for years, while these guys were either obliviously living cushy noble lives or being constantly lied to about almost everything.

@@coltonwilliams4153 And most of that can be blamed onto Filimos, and the Word of God religion they grew up in. Especially Filimos who likely already has an understanding of the world and also probably how dangerous her father and the Elves are to the world.

@@mintbot4657 Oh no, she’s the one who was lied to the most. 9/10 of the things she’s been told growing up was either a straight up lie, or wrong information given to her by the clueless elves who bought into the whole “elves advocate world peace” spiel.

@@coltonwilliams4153 Really? Consider she's a ruler, I presume she must have some knowledge or at least have gotten the Taboo Skill.

@@mintbot4657 Just having Taboo doesn’t mean anything. If she hasn’t maxed it out, then it’s nothing more than a time bomb in her brain. Threatening, but ultimately harmless.

the dude has server anger problems not an issue of being a compulsive lair

Wait a minute... thats a tfs reference

"Protagonist"

Not like he asked for the job. Give the kid a break.

Well Shun is written to be unlikable, he is there to mock the hero trope characters, in quite a few other isekai you might see characters just like Shun but the thing that seperates them from Shun is that what they do works; for Shun it doesnt, and thats the entire point Sophia even calls out his power of friendship thing

@@Bluesit32 If he stops being stereotyped, I'll think about it.

Can you pls spoil His past im very interested

Then there is Potimas saying he can "escape" death, and the whole sus robots thing that follows this... the Elves definitely don't have those giant red flags.

@@DoomsdayR3sistance Usually when people start talking about ‘escaping death’, that means that they’re involved with lich fuckery or body snatching.

@@coltonwilliams4153 Spoilers: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's body snatching, the elves were created by Potimas using himself as a model so he could use their bodies as his own body (we haven't seen his real body yet) and he takes control of one of the elves as his main fake body while the other can be used to recolect info because they have a part of his soul.

@@soedragons3582 Spoilers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Isn't his real body a humanoid Gloria unit?

@@joshuaarnett762 spoilers No I'm pretty sure his main body was on the ship

teacher who is also an elf

Around elves, watch yourselves.

Teacher is 10000 IQ

cut the teacher some slack, just imagine having to live as potimas son, without any of the outside context, in an entirely new world, her decissions are bad but I cant feel bad for her, I can only feel pity

@@christophersutterlin6945 True, though I still wish to see Kumoko/Shiraori just sit down with Oka and reveal the full context of everything. Oka's gonna be in for a real shocker.

And Oka (the Teacher) just went any yoinked most off the former students, now strangers from their lifes. Either by obducting them or buying them like Slaves and forcibly hold them Hostage and force them to live a Agrarian Lifestyle when many probably couldve been great influences and forces of good in their respective lifes...But because one deluded woman cant let go she destroyed that for many.

They were all reincarnated at the same time, it's just Kumoko was grinding levels from Day 1, being born a spider and able to move and act immediately. While the kids who reincarnated as humans had the misfortunate of having to grow like them.

@@66Roses while they were all reincarnated at the same time not all of them were born at the same time. kumoko due to being a spider hatched about 6 month before the others and fei due to being a dragon took much longer than anyone else. by the time the other started getting born kumoko was allready slaying dragons.

Besides, why fight yourself when you have mooks to do it for you. Plus, there’s always the chance that Schlain could pull off a miracle and push Wrath hard enough that he loses control. It’s a small chance, but still a chance, and Wrath’s power is way too unstable to go taking risks like that.

Oh, I see what you did there. Heh heh heh!

He doesn’t need reinforcement, he just likes to see the people of that world die

@@iamlerb94 of course he doesn't need reinforcement. He looks like he could killed most of them in a blink. But, command has it's perks.

He brought them just for the shier numbers. Also, for them to die in battle)

Shun: Shun Yes!!!

Shun: SHUN YES!!!!

Sophia: Shun, no.

Is it me or Kyouya and he were like, the best friends of the class cliche ? Kyouya : Shun pls no. Also basically my internal conflict about what is right and what is wrong : Kumiko knows things because of the forbidden skill, she's in the side of the demons, then the demons are right. Also teacher's been tricked so she's nice too.

@@coltonwilliams4153 Sophia, facepalming to blood and minor concussion: How is this guy still alive?

Julius was a real hero though. He grew with his every mistake and honestly he was one of the best written "Hero" characters I have ever seen. Not to mention, he was also a man of culture. Too bad he needed to die. If you ask me, there is nothing wrong with admiring Julius. But what Shun is doing isn't just admiring. He is copying him, trying to act like him. The problem is he isn't even aware of his surroundings. He isn't aware of the consequences of his actions. He just simply doesn't have enough character to be like Julius. That's why all he is and all he could ever be is a clown.

@@bedirhansaglam4066 Thank you for writing. I honestly don’t know enough about Julius because so far he’s only been in a few scenes.

@@bedirhansaglam4066 Yeah, Shun doesn’t have the resolve to forge his own path, instead he clings to his view of his older brother and his earthly ideals to simulate what a hero should be like in his eyes instead of actually doing the right thing.

@@exoticcats6119 We get the story of Julius in vol 11 and 12. When Shun declared himself to be a discount Julius, he had no idea how right he was. He's badly imitating Julius without having a firm grasp on how Julius would actually act if he were in the same situation. Julius made damn sure to never just follow one side blindly. If he were in this situation, he'd try to talk it out and gain a better understanding of the circumstances before picking an unwinnable fight.

@@bedirhansaglam4066 "he was also a man of culture" What do you mean by that??

The elves killed his best friend because he had an OP skill.

White _did_ put a spider in his brain... He was self destructive before that, but likely wouldn't have acted the same way without it. He probably ended up in a better way with his things went down than if he'd been left to his own devices.

It’s mostly fun for us

Whats stranger is that they lived 15 years in another world with Memories of their first life but have no emotional growth nor are acclimatized to the new customs, they think and act using morals from Japan a place they have left for 15 years that is almost equal to the entire life they stayed there, they act like people who where isekai a week ago, oka is a exception since she refuses her self for years already in Japan and clings desperatly to her former identity justifying anything with the excuse she is a teacher protecting her students

@@MegaRyuki technically in the LN Shun had the realization about that after almost getting people killed and getting yelled at by old-man-guide in the labirynth, didn't change all that much about his behaviour tho.

@@cathulionetharn5139 him and everyone else, cause they the girls behave like a field trip, shun plays fantasy hero and the shield dude has no opinion nor personality

@@MegaRyuki a thing only an anime-only could believe. its not like all the girls were talking behind shun's back about how they shouldn't trust their teacher or the elves or anything like that. it's not like hyrince has a whole identity complex and is almost always putting on an act.

it's still a spider storyline tho

I’m assuming it will all tie up. We can assume that this takes place right now and the spider storyline takes place in the past. The pink chick who’s with the demon lord is obviously the spider lol.

I totally agree. Even so it is interesting to see how eventually her actions lead to these events in the future I rather have some more Spider screen time.

(SPOILER ALERT) Well at least we're gonna end this season with Arachne-Kumoko, based on where they left off from her side of the story.

@@Lil_Thiccy Whenever we see the Demon Human War it is the present. Anytime we see Kumoko as a spider it is in the past.

@@rnell1472 im pretty sure they are talking about wrath

best bactstory - debaiteble, couse of kumo, ariel, ext.

@@redkraken6516 OP said “out of the male characters”.

@@nocturneshine2941 Ups...

I prefer Sophia

Well... In all fairness, you can't really expect Shun to be particularily tolerant towards the demon army. Like, would you trust any organization that gives a guy like Hugo any measure of power?

@@darthplagueis13 And also the organization which is responsible for your brother´s death?

The guy's only corncer is to live up to his brother legacy he didn't care about anything else

​@@darthplagueis13 Maybe not tolerant, but he should care more about his friends, not some empty ideals. He doesn't fight alone, and doesn't throw only his life away by attacking foes out of their reach with no plan whatsoever. His decision making process is careless and dangerous, and he is too prideful. I just usually skip to next scene when he starts talking.

The anime doesn't really do into it, but Shun's narrowmindedness comes from him basically having been sheltered by his family.

I'd love to see more realistic smart isekai mc's. Like Jobless Reincarnation

His brother got killed, maybe it's best NOT to do what he would?

I’m just happy they call him out for it and tell him/beat it into him that he’s an idiot

@@JamesTheTurnbull i mean as far as i am concerned Kumoko is the only mc of this story......

I think shun was created to make fun of many isekaizs protagonists

Sounds like it came from my kind of story. Where is that from?

@@Schinak Dawn of War: Dark Crusade Commander voice lines when invading strongholds in the campaign. In this case Eliphas the Inheritor when breaching the last bastion of the Space Marines stronghold in North Vandea.

@@rustkarl Ahahaha that is beautiful

@@Schinak Look up BigDickCheny’s video titled ‘Dark Crusade - Brothers’. You can hear the magnificence in all its baritone glory.

…isn’t this exactly what happened to the Emperor of Mankind in Warhammer 40k?

Fairy Tale disagrees

Well, it's more that the Power of Friendship isn't a substitute for actual Power in this setting. And Sophia's faced a harsher training regimen than any of them can imagine on her way to power.

Hey, technically, Wrath and Sophia used their power of friendship to beat them.* *Even if this said friendship is because they both love their "Masters" xD

@@pitioti Their master, it's the same, Shiro :v

Minor spoiler Wrath: wow this is nostalgic. But, uh, what happened the last time _I_ trusted and loved the people around me? *flashback to traumatic screaming and being driven to near insanity by his own rage* “... yeaaaah I think I’m gonna stick to the exploding swords.”

I was hoping for 26 instead of 24 ;w;

What a scary group 😅 but the best group indeed 😍

Wrath: Shun, buddy. You and Kanata are my bois! But if you keep being stupid, I’mma have to hurt you ‘til you stop, okay? Don’t take us down that road, bro.

Wrath best boi

Next season gonna give us a lot more best boy too.

INDEEED BEST BOYYYYY

Rip in pieces

I've said that every time I saw him on screen, I don't know why but I'm not a huge fan of his personality for some reason 🙁

Shun is probably more dense, than Ichika - if that´s even possible.

Always has been.

When isn't he dumb?

That’s because he is, or else something worse would’ve happened.

He is chill. Ice cold chill.

Trust me, he can do a Gate of Babylon card on them with Exploding Swords... what he just did is like a tap on the head is what he can do to his former classmates.

I mean, you'll know when he stops being chill.

@@dungeonguy88 yeah, the exploding swords tend to be a bit of a giveaway

That's the thing with the Hero title, it would force the fight to be more fair

Shopia is not even a comander)))

Not that he could win even with that

I don't care if it is an spolier, but please tell me. Is Shun potential death a part of Potimas plan?

@@vicente2044 No idea. The most favorable outcome for him would most likely be Schlain dying while killing Ariel. Otherwise, I don’t think he has a use for him.

AHHHAHHAHAHHA

Thank You. Some people just seem illiterate

This is true. But then we wouldn’t have drama.

Ya even the main character was confused after seeing how they acted in the LN

Charging in without thinking. Yep that's shun for ya

Shun’s like: “At least I have chicken.”

@@edwinpalin5116 it describes him very well

@@edwinpalin5116 Down to being what amounts to a bumrushing tactless Paladin.

Was that an sao airbridged refrence?

He's right though, considering the things Julius actually did in his story.

@@aethix1986 ok. But shun is still failure

@@aethix1986 But Julius wouldn't even attack her He knows what will happen if he dies, so he probably would talk to her before, and after he understand the situation he would make a decision. That is Julius the hero

As long as Julius had more than two braincells, he would've asked more about the elves being a threat to the world and realized the demon army doesn't have bad motoves.

@@jonquilgemstone He would have asked more maybe, but I don't think he would have ever been on board with the whole genocide thing.

And if it werent for Kumoko stopping her Vesige he wouldve died in Alroe already lol

Wrath has the worst story :(

@@groudonvert7286 Nah, his story is great What happened to him it's the worst, but he is great :v

@@leonel392 i think he meant that

Them elf lies, ya know? Good riddance to them being genocided.

Yes.

Shiro kinda wants to do that tho. Not explicit destroying the world, but wiping out all lifeforms on it.

@@Darthrath666 Not exactly, she wants to SAVE the world, but the way to do that is to wipe out a large majority of life from the world. So genociding the elves and killing half of humanity would do it. Even though in the end, Shiro would rather just go to some dark corner at the edge of existence away from everyone and stay there.

@@MegamanZXOmega She wants to shut down the system forcefully, which will inevitable obliterate the souls of every living being on that planet. So even if her plan is successful, then there's no life left on that planet.

can't wait

Everyone died! The end

@@alessandromaccaroni8481 then they all got Reincarnated in Another World

Yessss gotta have the gang all in one place

She is already walking to them. But will the studio show us their meeting in next episode or in episode 1 of a possible season 2?

That's remind me Mario 64 speedrun, just glitching to the point

Honestly, the only reason the previous Heroes beat the Demon Lords was because of the special perk the title gives them. If it was strength and skill, then the Demon Lord would win every time. The Hero going against someone who outclasses all the previous Demon Lords when they don’t have the Demon Lord title? Nah, that ain’t happening.

I imagine Shiraori would "save" him from her grandmother

That’s because his hero title/skill is only useful against people with the Demon Lord title/skill. Other opponents would always have the upper hand because they don’t have that handicap.

@@michaelirazori9214 Don't confuse titles with skills. They're two seperate things. A lot of people can have a hero/demon lord skill. Only one person can have the hero/demon lord title. The hero title only works against the demon lord title, not the skill.

People bashed the human reincarnation subplot because they didn't understand that their was a pay-off to it, that being the eventual (and easily predictable) reveal that Kumoko becomes Shiraori/White. As such people that could not understand it was being done for a very specific payoff probably just thought it was annoying and less screen time for their favourite spider.

I would reccomend you to read the LN too, it'st so damn good! It contain even more twist and revelation and of course there are parts about the adaptation that are missing but honestly i think the anime did a great job adapting it!

I'm reading the LN now. It's so damn good. Especially because there's so many little things in the LN only that wasn't in the anime, it makes a lot of things more sense and a blast to read through :)

@@DoomsdayR3sistance The real reveal of the last episode is that the spider we all love is the true villain of Shun's story. When we understand this, it makes the story feels completely different.

Kyouya: Good thing I am your friend then, right?

Of course the big difference is that suzaku actually had a legit reason for doing that and grew out of it, where as shun is just an idiot

@@dylanpalton3331 Suzaku was still kind of like a really naïve Charlemagne SS corps soldiers thinking he could change the fricking whole facist empire colonising his country by serving him and getting promotions ! XD

That would require him to be able to think for himself by stopping to idolize his brother over anything and start to embrace the new life and world he lives in. Which I guess he never will do. None off it

She actually waao.. Oh ok, sorry

I mean technically she's in the episode. The opening, the ending.

@@mintbot4657 she'll have to be since it's the last episode

Well, Sophia is contemptuous of most of them. And Kyouya just wants to get things done.

@@dungeonguy88 Is not an excuse he could have simply explained to them I even think it would save them some time. In fact, from what I have read in Wikipedia, Kumo-shan herself will have to intervene to end these senseless fights and give a not very open but clearer explanation (Although I may have been wrong as I already said, I read it on Wikipedia).

@@juanbisonosuero3650 Oka didn't give him the chance to do it sadly :(

@@juanbisonosuero3650 I'm not really trying to excuse them not explaining themselves better. Neither Kyouya or Sophia are particularly well-balanced or entirely sane. And it causes a lot of problems when they actually need to talk to other.

Even though he seems calm right now, Kyouya/Wrath is not sane. Which make sense given everything he's been through.

IKR they fell like 10mins bruh

Having to wait another week for the final episode, wondering how they're going to split up the two timelines. I think we get to see Arachine Kumoko save Sophia and then transition to Shiro walking onto the battlefield to stop the fight. But I do think the episodes are too short.

She was in the episode ;^)

@@mintbot4657 I think it will be shuns side finding out that shiro is wakaba then a transition to kumokos arachne form. like a face reveal kind of thing

She was in this episode, talking aloud instead of just in her mind.

Not in this series

He would of teamed with the elf I he said that

I’ll live without.

@@wizlard6675 well there are some elves who have no Idea of Potimas plan ans stuff

@@rustkarlno you won't

Yeah, the Hero Title that Shun has is influencing his soul and personality warping his mind to be more fitting hero. You can kind of see it in how most of the others are somewhat more practical about this whole fight and are open to just walking away.

@@dungeonguy88 Also the authors hatred towards the hero trope, which denies Shun of any character development at all. Honestly, the author sucks for being so pathetic and ruining the entire human side just because of this.

@@Darthrath666 I'd disagree with that assessment. So, I'm a Spider, so what? is meant to be a deconstruction of the classic Isekai genre, breaking down and pulling apart the cliches common to that kind of story. And part of a deconstruction usually lies in pointing out how unrealistic certain ideas or behavior in a story really is. To that end, having an in-universe reason for why an otherwise intelligent and educated young man suddenly is trying to act like a stereotypical hero is a part of that. Shun's behavior doesn't make sense for a regular Japanese student that's been thrown into another world. But that's how he would act as a protagonist in a normal Isekai story. And so this story actually looks for and provides a reason for why that is.

the white woman is kumoko

@@danielharaoui143 👀 *spoiler*

Hero title and mercy without heracy residence is a helluva drug

Lol

It will

Oh my God lol

😳 She’s more chunni than any of them! 😂

@@coltonwilliams4153 nah, because she is fully joking, they are all dead serious.

Honestly, the first half of this season was pretty enjoyable and it made me excited for the second half, and now I have not watched the last couple of episodes because I just can’t handle how poorly animated this is. Characters are literally just being dragged across the screen at points, which is honestly unacceptable, it probably would’ve been way higher quality if they did what Slime did and decided to put more than a week or two break between the two parts and instead did a month or two break.

They had some serious issues finishing this episode that caused a delay that's why the quality has been so low

Or just Ariel ^^

@@groudonvert7286 Ariel?

@@xer-xglitchasmodeussinoflu2068 the demon lord

@@groudonvert7286 Expect they don't have what other most isekai protagonist has like our spider protagonist

I'm sure that at least the members of the 10th army know that already.

You won't get any answers trough. Wait for 2nd and 3rd seasons.

Nah, there'll be a little more next week with the biggest reveal (that most people would have suspected).

It's not the same Katana. It was made from a dragon.

@@groudonvert7286 Really? Has been a while since I've been at that part in the story.

@@jf_kein_k8590 If I remember correctly, they say that in episode 21.The girl's staff is also made from a dragon.

@@groudonvert7286 Nope, all Katanas in the world were created by Kyouya, they only imbued some electric stuff on it

@@leonel392 i don't see why they should all be created by Kyouya, he's not the only japanese in the world XD

It's a big deal in the sense that Shun didn't know what happened to his best friend. And for his backstory (and Sophia's) you'll need to wait season 2 (if there'll be one) and Kyouya's backstory is the best of the show (in my opinion).

Yeah shun‘a mentioned him a lot so far, he’s the other guy who hung out with him and kanata

@@groudonvert7286 Seeing how much attention this adaptation is getting, it seems likely a season 2 is on the horizon.

@@joshuagross3151 I hope so... and hope that it will get a better studio.

@@groudonvert7286 I hope that they now are getting a bigger budget to work with

how exactly do you *“WATCH”* an LN?

@@SUSsykage watch the letters lol

@@dr.baygon6457 understandable, have a nice day…

@@SUSsykage read*

@@SUSsykage Typically, with your eyes. How do you read subs in a show?

I bet you´re not alone there. I started watching because the aspect of a person reincarnating as a spider which has to overcome its limits again and again to survive is much more interesting to me than the typical "hero chosen one" we normally see.

Do you want to see what happen to her in the present (after-cast scene) or in the past?

@@93Chowo well, that overcome thing ends here. In seasons 2 and 3 you will see big politics/strategies + drama/tragedy. Ou, but comedy still there too)

Yes, and they are, but not what she thinks they are

To be honest, from a completely neutral, uninformed perspective, the elves are completely shady, and the demons are evil. If I had to chose, I’d seriously go with Hyrince’s plan and bail after killing Hugo. Everything else is a whole lot of not my problem.

Oh you're gonna have to take sides eventually :)

@@coltonwilliams4153 Yeah, the Demons are mostly coming across as Evil because they aren't really explaining their position at all. Most of the Demon forces are as ignorant of what's going on as Shun. Meanwhile, Sophia, Kyouya, and the other top members that know what is going on aren't really inclined to explain themselves or explain themselves poorly.

@@dungeonguy88 In their defense, not only are they constantly being interrupted, but the vampire countess and the oni berserker aren’t exactly sane. Kinda gets in the way of giving decent explanations.

@@coltonwilliams4153 That's true. Most of the characters that know what's actually going on have various issues that make them...bad at actually explaining what's going on. Mostly due to their deeply-seated psychological issues.