Crusader Kings 2 vs. Crusader Kings 3 -- should you buy CK2 or CK3?

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HeyCara

HeyCara

3 жыл бұрын

A ton of people were asking me my thoughts on the differences between Crusader Kings 2 and Crusader Kings 3, in this video I cover the main changes from CK2 to CK3, which game is better, and even which game you should try.
If you would like to check out Crusader Kings 2, which is a pretty revealing, enlightening, and sometimes pretty brutal game, you can check it out here: store.steampowered.com/app/20...
And if you'd like to check out the incredible, timely, and insane game Crusader Kings 3, you can find it here: store.steampowered.com/app/11...
And if you're new to my channel, try checking out some of my newest videos: • Playlist
Thanks for watching! This was CARA, and I'll see you in the next video!
#CrusaderKings2 #CrusaderKings3 #CK2 #CK3

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@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
hi everyone! here are some of my thoughts on the differences between crusader kings 3, and crusader kings 2. i'd love to hear if any of y'all have any other thoughts!
@sluggo2385
@sluggo2385 3 жыл бұрын
They removed secret societies :(
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
well no, they just didn't add those in, lol. but i get what you mean, like the tone of the game is a lot more serious
@user-lq3op9gy4o
@user-lq3op9gy4o 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyCara I hope you were sponsored by Paradox and get converted to Taoism.
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
why taoism specifically?
@user-lq3op9gy4o
@user-lq3op9gy4o 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyCara I am from Asia and I barely see anyone interact with Asia in these games. I know its Medieval and all that but the sandbox nature is what appeals to me. But play whatever, I am just a viewer. I find Taoism to be the religion that is rather rare in CK3 so that is interesting to me and I know a little bit about it.
@dannyboybogdan2356
@dannyboybogdan2356 3 жыл бұрын
Every now and again I find myself gazing upon the slow turn of a season, in awe wondering 'where have the years gone?'. Then I look at my nearly 2000 hours of ck2 and suddenly I know...
@mrshpee2835
@mrshpee2835 3 жыл бұрын
Everything that is missing in ck3 will eventually be added as a dlc, it's just a matter of time before ck3 is a direct upgrade to ck2
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
i agree, and i think that's also true for pretty much all of the mods in ck2
@DewiiEsq
@DewiiEsq 3 жыл бұрын
It’ll take years though :( I just want to play as the byzzies with actual flavor :((((
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
patience is a virtue... and it gives you some buffs to your stats, lol
@KeinNiemand
@KeinNiemand 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why I will wait a few years before buying CK3 when it's on sale, with the added benefit that it will probably be 50-75% off in a few years.
@Armlace
@Armlace 3 жыл бұрын
It already is a direct upgrade. Its only really missing republics(which were badly done in CK2), nomads(which were also badly done in CK2) and secret societies.
@marcosanz4088
@marcosanz4088 3 жыл бұрын
CARA: "The map looks better" 100 years border-gore: "Kill me pls"
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
lol it's border gore.. but it's nice and pretty border gore. like wearing a flannel top 😅
@ojgfhuebsrnvn2781
@ojgfhuebsrnvn2781 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Map is the biggest problem of CK3 in my opinion. It looks pretty but its not comfortable to use it. -There are much less types of Map. - Zooming out camera inevitably changes map, however thats not what always needed - CK2 is much more recognizable. I mean its easier to see borders, some key points etc. Overall CK3 is a good game and has a lot of new mechanics that i like and wanted in CK2 but for now, i do still prefer CK2 for the reason mentioned in the video, a bit less sims game. Somehow in CK3 i end up not caring about who is in my court at all. They work fine whether they like me or hate me and didn't feel significant increase of assassinating attempts
@j-ahmed9983
@j-ahmed9983 3 жыл бұрын
Dude CK3 has a map thats WAY bigger
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
that's true! the world does feel a lot bigger in ck3, especially for wars and stuff
@logan13231
@logan13231 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. I've been on the fence since I already have CK2 and played it but didn't really get all the way into it. The RPG aspects about CK3 you noted pushed me over the edge to buy it. Interested to see your other videos now. Well done!
@user-lb9dr1tp1i
@user-lb9dr1tp1i 3 жыл бұрын
The bad portraits were why i couldn't take the Italians, vikings and Irish seriously in ck2
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
potato kings 2
@djaevlenselv
@djaevlenselv 3 жыл бұрын
Mediterraneans/Iberians ended up some of the best looking portraits after the update. Before that, though... * shudder *
@user-lb9dr1tp1i
@user-lb9dr1tp1i 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyCara rotten potato kings
@infinitememegod
@infinitememegod 3 жыл бұрын
Mongol potrait dlc
@HH-ni5hm
@HH-ni5hm 3 жыл бұрын
The Irish... ughh 🤢
@autonomyseeker6082
@autonomyseeker6082 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Thanks for the info about trying it out for cheap :) Gonna go try CK3 out now
@akshaydabhadkarofficial5104
@akshaydabhadkarofficial5104 3 жыл бұрын
New to CK3 and CK in general. Loving it so far with 40 hours. Your videos help a lot. I really liked the fact that they focused on making the vanilla game robust and feature packed. (CK2 players know better but i don't seem to miss any significant gameplay aspects in CK3). DLC features need to be optional and core gameplay features should be provided as free updates. I hope Paradox understands this. BTW opening CK2 after 30 hours of CK3 showed me how much of a difference a great UI can make for a new player. That tooltips within tooltips feature has spoiled me and I want all other strategy games to implement it somehow(I even tried hovering on CIV6 tooltips only to be disappointed lol!)......
@japp3playzz
@japp3playzz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you convinced me to get CK2 :D
@shashwatsinha2704
@shashwatsinha2704 3 жыл бұрын
Ck2 has more start dates(with DLC).
@Dithrick
@Dithrick 3 жыл бұрын
The 769 date was my favorite with shattered realms.
@jz9991z
@jz9991z 3 жыл бұрын
For CK3, i think the ai is much smarter. I was in a civil war and all of a sudden, many foreign rulers just declared war on me.
@asasas9146
@asasas9146 3 жыл бұрын
That happens too in Ck2, they can smell your lack of troops and will act accordingly if they had the right casus belli. This is better noticed with shattered world mods, when a count managed to capture a few counties in a blitz it gets immediately gangbanged by his neighbours, first the strongest ones, that finished up his army, and when he had literally no army, everybody joined the party and they just cease to exist. And it happened always, with a 100% chance. (It helps that they added a new casus belli in the mod, to conquer 1 county even if same religion). The biggest problem with the AI in CK2 as i see, is that they cant declare wars if they had levies raised, wich basically means that the bigger an AI empire becomes, the more useless it is, because they are losing precious time moving their entire army to crush some random revolts, while not doing absolutely nothing more while the player expands. And not to mention that even if they outnumber (and outclass) the rebels 30 to 1, they will raise every single levy on the realm, so there is a potential bankrupt, wich forbids them from declaring new wars as well. I had no idea how this works on CK3 though, i hope that they find some clever alternative.
@jz9991z
@jz9991z 3 жыл бұрын
@@asasas9146 Neither the player nor the AI can declare war with their levies raised because it would give a lot of advantages if either of them has already moved their troops to their foe's territory. This mechanic still exists in CK3 unfortunately. I think they can fix it if they use the EU4 mechanic where war can be declared as long as they are not standing on their target's territory.
@asasas9146
@asasas9146 3 жыл бұрын
@@jz9991z Yes, but as you know, the player can deal far better with this than the AI: You can declare multiple wars, you had mercenaries and retinues, spawned troops in some occasions, you can just dissolve your levies temporarily if an opportunity arises etc... The EU4 solution looks great, does the AI declare wars even when already in one? And can they deal with the economic problems of having all their troops raised for such a long time?
@jz9991z
@jz9991z 3 жыл бұрын
@@asasas9146 In EU4, the AI takes different approaches depending on their rulers' personalities (not without expansions). This is similar to CK. Normally, they would just dismiss most of their raised troops to lower their maintenance costs. Another approach would be limiting the maintenance costs you provide to your armies instead of dismissing them, but the morale will be affected. So far, I haven't seen AI taking the second approach though.
@1992zorro
@1992zorro 2 жыл бұрын
AI better in CK3. Just try going on a crusade for fun and witness the worst AI to ever exist. They will go to the Gulf of Persia and die for the holy water (Attrition)
@donjasjit
@donjasjit 3 жыл бұрын
You explained the differences very well. Thanks.
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
thank you! i tried my best, haha
@GrayLensman51
@GrayLensman51 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about CK3 coming out is that now I can play CK2 WITHOUT anymore DLCs and updates coming out to change how it works.
@lazyapes3787
@lazyapes3787 3 жыл бұрын
Great work!!!
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@finalchapter24k
@finalchapter24k 3 жыл бұрын
What is the music track @4:00 ?
@darkranger116
@darkranger116 4 ай бұрын
Honestly was wondering what the differences would be. Im coming from total war, so i definitely need that combat element with thought engagement. It seems like at this point, CK2 has a better/more immersive in-game battle & war system, but CK3 currently has the Crusader Wars mod, that allows you to fight battles in Total War Attila when your character is leading an army. CK3 also has a cool City Sprawl mod that's supposed to give campaign map models to the buildings you've constructed in your provinces. So i'm thinking CK3 on a 50% off sale is the way to go right now. Great review, still valid 3 years later.
@dougsheltonds
@dougsheltonds 3 жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed ... mainly because you saved me $52 with the xbox game pass idea. Thanks
@Ezrajal
@Ezrajal 3 жыл бұрын
I miss societies and artifacts from ck2's dlc. But the whole witch path is new and interesting for me in CK3. Excited to see what more expansions to throw my wallet at has to offer later.
@shodan2002
@shodan2002 2 жыл бұрын
Societies are are one of my favorite things
@gogogomes7025
@gogogomes7025 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's a nice video, it answers averything i wanted to know, since after HoI4 (that even after this whole time i can make my self like it) and Imperator ( who gave everyone a collective meltdown about mana) i expected Paradox to fudge this one up aswell, but it does sound good enough for me to give it a try.
@elastichedgehog6339
@elastichedgehog6339 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, keep it up!
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a bunch!
@multigamer4385
@multigamer4385 2 жыл бұрын
I got ck2 for free and can i play mods on it vanilla or do i need dlcs?
@sergodobro2569
@sergodobro2569 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I don't like the interface in ck3, ck2's just looks better for me! Also the map looked a bit more unique, telling you that it's not just another map game, it is the Crusader Kings 2!
@TheOfficalBiggestBird
@TheOfficalBiggestBird 2 жыл бұрын
I am gonna wait for a year or two to get either ck3 and or ck2 when ck3 gets at least half way fleshed out
@rikumajumder1558
@rikumajumder1558 3 жыл бұрын
You sold me on CKIII as a complete newbie to this franchise. If I end up loving CKIII then I would later buy CKII just to see how it was.
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 2 ай бұрын
Thoughts?
@rdevil5330
@rdevil5330 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!
@actionhanz3420
@actionhanz3420 3 жыл бұрын
this video makes a correct assessment. if i could add my thoughts, i would say anyone new to paradox games obviously should just stay away (lol) or if you must, then just play ck3. but for veterans it is not worth getting right now. personally, i am not impressed at all and i think once the hype has settled, many will realise the game is pretty basic and just a waiting room for the eventual overpriced DLCs. can't really blame them to go where the money is. after all, whalehunting your fan base to extinction is how it's done these days. as far as paradox releases go, it went pretty well and i am glad it is no imperator rome disapointment.
@shodan2002
@shodan2002 2 жыл бұрын
Both cost a million dollars but ck2 has better dlcs
@VonBlade
@VonBlade 3 жыл бұрын
Still think it's a bit overpriced right now, but then I'm poor and know it'll be TrainSim levels of DLC eventually. I can tolerate CK2 looking less nice, because I'm old so graphics aren't that vital (although not CK1 graphics, ugh). CK2 is free, so anyone remotely interested in a taster should try it, but I found it almost incomprehensible until I'd watched 10 hours of video tutorials. So it's not for the impatient. CK3 isn't free, but, as you said, already looks better and doesn't crawl to 1fps once things begin to get complicated. The banners and massive windows are a bit of a turn off, but hey. (as for the actual video, perhaps a tiny bit less frenetic cuts and more of a "this is the world map of CK2 .. this is CK3".. "here is a portrait in CK2.. here in CK3" etc might help people not used to both games spot the differences, but you know what you're doing)
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the input! and for me, having advanced character models does help me feel more in touch with the in game world, even if it is just an aesthetic thing
@ThierryRathon
@ThierryRathon 3 жыл бұрын
The Xbox PC Game pass is 1 dollar for this month ..and you can play CK3 royal edition with it. I believe it's $1 this month, $4 next month. Then it goes back to $12/month again.
@ZunaZurugi
@ZunaZurugi 3 жыл бұрын
Its also much easier to get into. I have only a couple dozens hours in CK2 and after a while not playing it, returning to it and im lost again :D but CK3 i didnt even play the Tutorial and feels like i understand most of the things going on and what options i have. The new UI and info boxes helps ATON !
@Heldermaior
@Heldermaior 3 жыл бұрын
CK3 is basically an evolution of CK2. Looks better, easier to get into. However, speaking as a veteran of CK2 with basically all the DLCs, the differences in gameplay once you know what you are doing are not that big imho. In fact, CK2 might be better in some ways. So if you are new to the series, get the 3rd installment. If you are a CK2 veteran, wait for a sale as the experience is pretty much the same sans some of the more exotic options of CK2 with DLC.
@jinxedfates
@jinxedfates Жыл бұрын
finally someone else sees the sims comparison (as a life long sins player)
@acewhisper788
@acewhisper788 3 жыл бұрын
Both. Ck2 is free and more full and you can play the DLC if a friend has them and hosts. Ck3 is new and going in a separate direction to 2 and doesn't need to be restarted every desync or misclick of a menu.
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
ck3 is definitely trying to become it's own sort of thing, which isn't a bad thing 😊 that sync thing does sound annoying though 😅
@felixdaniellajarathen5308
@felixdaniellajarathen5308 3 жыл бұрын
And ck3 run 5 fps on my pc
@ken-yo2hz
@ken-yo2hz 3 жыл бұрын
Abathur Is it intensive?
@GappyYT
@GappyYT 3 жыл бұрын
early gang Great video btw
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! and since you're here early, what do you think?
@GappyYT
@GappyYT 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice that you made an comparison video, so people can decide if it's worth buying for them. Personally I agree with what's said in this video and think if you like CK2 and have the money you should buy CK3 because it improves on the roleplay aspect a lot. I've only played around 10 hours so far but definitely think it was worth the money. It''s still gonna be difficult for somebody who's never played CK before but it's a little easier cuz the tooltips are better. Worth buying imo and good video :)
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
i think so too! and yeah, it's definitely not an EASIER game, but it is a lot more ACCESSIBLE, which is an important difference 😅 i do wonder what they're planning to do for the DLCs though..
@GappyYT
@GappyYT 3 жыл бұрын
You're right it is more accessible. But regarding DLC I think there is room for some very cool features with government types and stuff so I have hope that they come out with something good and not sunset invasion 2.0 lol
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
haha, that would be like hella funny though 😂 my guess is that it's going to be like republic governments and a trade system, but it could be anything else
@retronull4722
@retronull4722 3 жыл бұрын
my pc is a potato so i cant really play ck3, so ill just watch this to see what im missing out on
@filosofishinchan6304
@filosofishinchan6304 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Cara ~ please dont change your voice tune
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
aw, thanks!
@thickac7579
@thickac7579 3 жыл бұрын
In it's current state ck3 is basically like the tutorial with limited features for ck2 , if that tutorial was made for 5 year olds with a learning disability. In full honesty it is the most disappointing game for me this year. When i hear a sequel i understand it as an upgrade not this. What i think they are doing is basically reselling us ck2 all over again with all the dlc and that crap. Even then this game won't be much better than ck2 , because it is simplistic in it's nature and can not provide you with a challenge. You can go from count to emperor AND reform your religion in 2 hours tops, without using any exploits whatsoever, once you do that you basically have nothing to do since there are like 3 events that repeat over and over again.
@korpiz
@korpiz 2 жыл бұрын
Janet, is that you?
@foniks100
@foniks100 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest concern about the game so far. The border is shit. When you pick a kingdom or a empire it is hard to see which areas you own and it is annoying you have to zoom all the way in to see castles when you attack someone. Casus belli for you and you and you, everyone here is a casus belli take it. Annoying as fuck.
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
i disagree, i think the map and the way it shows you information is so much nicer to look at and easier to understand
@foniks100
@foniks100 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyCara I played more and I can agree the other maps are better (faith, cultures and development). I still think the main map is shit (Realms) Too many countries get the same color and the way you look at uncreated kingdoms and empires are stupid.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
@@HeyCara The Map în ck3 îs awful
@moulinexm7600
@moulinexm7600 3 жыл бұрын
So I have CK2 with many DLC. Is it worth investing in CK3 now ? In other words is CK3 base game more complete than CK2 base game ?
@PROEVOLUTION1
@PROEVOLUTION1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@claudius_drusus_
@claudius_drusus_ 2 жыл бұрын
It's not. It has far less role play elements.
@youtubeadministration8037
@youtubeadministration8037 3 жыл бұрын
I choose Victoria 2
@ZuluRed123
@ZuluRed123 3 жыл бұрын
ck2 is free though you dont buy it ?
@lukemurphy6244
@lukemurphy6244 3 жыл бұрын
I got 3 months on game pass for 1 euro. Thanks. 👍🏻
@ihatemotionblur_3255
@ihatemotionblur_3255 3 жыл бұрын
ck2 costs a lot more with more content, while ck3 has so much less content but its so much cheaper
@c2h7rt
@c2h7rt 3 жыл бұрын
crusader kings 2 with horse lords dlc and with hip mod. 👍
@thewise3551
@thewise3551 Жыл бұрын
Boobs is this the only thing ck3 does that ck2 doesn’t.
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 2 ай бұрын
Lol
@rabbaniazzahra1784
@rabbaniazzahra1784 5 ай бұрын
CK3 is better than CK2, but since CK2 is older it has more depth to it. but of course depth can be added overtime, so sooner or later CK2 wont be a competition
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 2 ай бұрын
Would totally disagree. Even at the 3 year mark, CK2 had way more than CK3 has now. CK3 just got plagues lol CK2 at 3 years old was a way better game. How many more DLC will it take to get a proper Byzantium? A proper HRE? Venice? Republics? Only thing better about ck3 is the graphics, puddle deep otherwise
@viligerm6592
@viligerm6592 Жыл бұрын
I like ck2 because theres more randumb stuff you can do (like marry a god damn horse) for me ck3 has an amazing atmosphere but it is kinda bland so i hope paradox add more fun things to do
@SuperLexxe
@SuperLexxe 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't CK2 free tho
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
the base game is, but not the DLCs
@Chad6o
@Chad6o 3 жыл бұрын
the base game is free, however it's very poor without the game play features add with dlc. In the end, even on sale, your looking at a couple hundred bucks.
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
exactly! the game's basically incomplete without the DLCs
@Himmyjewett
@Himmyjewett 3 жыл бұрын
Still free
@interestingusername1049
@interestingusername1049 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone Ck2 is free on steam.
@f1nger605
@f1nger605 3 жыл бұрын
Also there's more naked people in CK3.
@SuperDarkMan12TV
@SuperDarkMan12TV 3 жыл бұрын
CK3 is a better version of CK2 imo.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@gogogomes7025
@gogogomes7025 3 жыл бұрын
I know a way try them, For even cheaper 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️
@tomerisraeli2206
@tomerisraeli2206 3 жыл бұрын
Cs2 free on steam (dlc will cost ya)
@Mantid539
@Mantid539 3 жыл бұрын
Can you buy the game for me
@Redheisenberg
@Redheisenberg 3 жыл бұрын
Just pirate it. No drm
@liamgriffiths5289
@liamgriffiths5289 3 жыл бұрын
@@Redheisenberg where did you pirate it from
@PROEVOLUTION1
@PROEVOLUTION1 3 жыл бұрын
@@liamgriffiths5289 skidrow igggames rutor etc etc
@claudius_drusus_
@claudius_drusus_ 2 жыл бұрын
Don't pirate. That's stealing.
@uncleclem7381
@uncleclem7381 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudius_drusus_ Piracy is a victimless crime
@bushlak
@bushlak 9 ай бұрын
как у тебя с таким голосом столько подписчиков, я не понимаю
@blackbreakfast1256
@blackbreakfast1256 3 жыл бұрын
ck2 is free atm
@Infidi
@Infidi Жыл бұрын
ck2 has HIP... need I speak more?
@ezekiel8492
@ezekiel8492 3 жыл бұрын
I think the answer here is def ck 3, yes 2 has more content but 2 also had a lifespan of 8 years with a shit ton of dlc. I bet that when ck 3 will have more dlc that the question which one to buy will be non existent
@arseniox
@arseniox 3 жыл бұрын
CK2 it's free.
@Yourebeautyfull
@Yourebeautyfull 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this game before it became free... All I wanted in CKII was some less ugly portraits, so I downloaded a mod but it glitched with the hair and made everyone bald, which i hated, so I tried to turn it off but now all the faces are gone entirely. Either I have everyone bald or just a pair of eyes sticking out of a cloud and shit like that, it 's really game breaking for me and I just gave up on it. Why could they not have put in some decent faces in the first place without selling it for a 20 dollar dlc package?? I hate these developers for luring me into a game that is trying to rip me off so much that it caused me to break it in order to fix it. I probably would have loved this game but I absolutely just can't find a sense of immersion when the entire world is bald, fuck your overpriced dlc motherfuckers!
@kylro6021
@kylro6021 3 жыл бұрын
Thats when you hop on the pirate ship and get to downloading baby
@carltonleboss
@carltonleboss 3 жыл бұрын
CK3 feels a lot more complicated than CK2 though
@HeyCara
@HeyCara 3 жыл бұрын
do you really think so? i actually thought it was way easier to get into, although maybe that's just because i had experience with ck2 🙇🏻‍♀️
@carltonleboss
@carltonleboss 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyCara Now that I think about it, it seems to be less complicated than Ck2 in many areas. I have around 300 hours in Ck2, so I am definitely uses to it. I think I will enjoy Ck3 when I eventually buy it
@tylerbook3300
@tylerbook3300 11 ай бұрын
woman narrator
когда достали одноклассники!
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