Crusades against Finnish pagans - History of Finland Animated Pt 4

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Anttimation

9 ай бұрын

#finnishmythology #finnishhistory #historyoffinland
This animated series covers the history of Finland and the Finns. In this third episode we will look at the beginning of the Middle Ages. This era is characterized by the so called Crusades against the pagan Finns. What were these Crusades really, and what did they lead to? Let's find out.
0:00 Viking Age ends
0:40 Christian Scandinavians continue raiding and colonizing
01:35 Legendary three Swedish Crusades
03:22 Swedish invasion of Finland and spread of Christianity
06:35 Crusade Era ends with the treaty of Nöteborg in 1323
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@WMfin
@WMfin 9 ай бұрын
This is the jam! Shout-out to my man Ukko-Nooa who indeed was a decent man!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Although his alleged contribution to the genetic health of the Earth's fauna is... Questionable
@DevoteeofThunor
@DevoteeofThunor 3 ай бұрын
I'm curious to know are you a Finnish pagan?If so do you make offerings to your ancestral deities and spirits?​@Anttimation
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 10 күн бұрын
@@DevoteeofThunor it is only now that I see your question 😅 But no, I don't worship anything (nor do we know much of how it would have been done in the past anyway) but I might offer some beer to Ukko on Midsummer for example :D
@helkdona226
@helkdona226 8 ай бұрын
As I am a Canadian and can not speak Finnish it makes it hard to learn anything about my ancestors so I really appreciate your channel
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
Glad you've found your way here then!
@helkdona226
@helkdona226 8 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation I'll be waiting to see what's next
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 9 ай бұрын
Lalli should be a Finnish Saint. Dude came home to find a bishop had robbed his wife and him from their winter supplies. They would have starved during the winter, if Lalli didn't go and get the food back.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
I think he is seen more as a hero these days. Definitely more than in the middle ages 😅 Tuomas Heikkilä has written a book about it. Has some of my illustration too.
@zacp2770
@zacp2770 9 ай бұрын
​@@Anttimationwhats the book called? And is there an english translation?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
@@zacp2770 Lalli - kansallispahiksen muotokuva. No English translation I'm afraid :(
@cheersbro7347
@cheersbro7347 9 ай бұрын
They used the same tactic against us hungarians a 200 years prior to that. Our word “ördög” means a type of evil monster in our onw forgotten mythology but today it just means the devil.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Ördög sounds brutal. I wonder what it's like.
@SatumainenOlento
@SatumainenOlento 9 ай бұрын
Ördög! Sounds very powerful!
@waynesmith3767
@waynesmith3767 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant animation and excellent, witty narrative; as soon as I consult a cardiologist I will view it again as well as revisit your previous videos.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Haha thank you! Yeah better take it easy. I don't want any lawsuits over potential cardiovascular symptoms.
@karneh855
@karneh855 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you still use my song! Great video as always. -Karneh
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! It fits like an axehead though a bishop's neck!
@karneh855
@karneh855 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation hahah, awesome!
@herrakaarme
@herrakaarme 9 ай бұрын
A splendid video, as always! It's indeed quite annoying to speak of Finland when there was no Finland, or it was just a tiny fraction of the land southwest (now called Finland Proper). Having watched a whole bunch of history videos over the years and written dozens of comments, it's bothersome, to say the least. It gets old to always write something along the lines of "the area now called Finland". Thus I won't blame you for taking the shortcut. It doesn't even cause any misunderstandings, after all.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching again! Yeah. I'll stick to mentioning it every now and then. It gets pointed out in the comments very often 😅
@antcommander1367
@antcommander1367 9 ай бұрын
eikä kristin uskonto ole ''vapauttanneet'' suomea vanhoista uskomuksista kusten ei myöskään irlantia. vanhanhat uskomukset pysyy tiukasti kansan perinteesssä,. kuten saunatonttu ja maan väet. Not even a Christian's sword can break us We will fight forever Now our songs to the gods are refreshed So raise your glass!... - sahti waari by turisas
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Ja hyvä että ovat säilyneet Tavallaan näillä videoilla yritän säilyttää edelleen ja tuoda KZfaqa katselevien tietoisuuteen.
@Sienisota
@Sienisota 9 ай бұрын
Tonttu on ruotsalainen. Meillä oli Väki, ja hiidet ja pirut.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
@@Sienisota haltiat, maahiset, ja muut. Mutta on tontut ja näkit olleet täällä sen verran kauan, että mielestäni voi laskea hyvin mukaan.
@zapfsaeule2
@zapfsaeule2 7 ай бұрын
It's so interesting and so well explained and the visualization is so brilliant as always!
@metaldiver
@metaldiver 9 ай бұрын
Wow, great video. This is the type of videos what i really like🙂
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! That is very good to hear. I like making them!
@LaurenRantala
@LaurenRantala 9 ай бұрын
So cool! Thanks for making these!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
My pleasure tbh. Thanks for watching!
@OldForestBushcraft
@OldForestBushcraft 5 ай бұрын
Ah, great stuff! Thanx for the video!
@Aenar147
@Aenar147 9 ай бұрын
Great video, happy to be early on new part
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
An early bird catches a Swedish invader... Or something
@sh-zn4wm
@sh-zn4wm 9 ай бұрын
Never stop. Thanks for this. I want more
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! We have a saying, "never stop the madness ja kohta vedetään taas!"
@sh-zn4wm
@sh-zn4wm 8 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation kohta
@lajosalfoldi9395
@lajosalfoldi9395 5 ай бұрын
I’m Hungarian and my name is Lajos, but my nickname is Lali and it’s pronounced almost identically like you said it in the video! Lajos is considered for an old traditional male name in our culture and same applies for the nickname Lali. It’s truly interesting to see and hear about these historical moments that shaped today’s Finland and the history and language (sort of) we share.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 5 ай бұрын
Well now you share a nickname with a mythical Finnish villain-turned-hero 👌
@tzimisce1753
@tzimisce1753 9 ай бұрын
Very cool! Well done!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Valmentaja
@Valmentaja 9 ай бұрын
This was a very good one!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Ja hyvä kun kommentoit, sain taas muistutuksen hoitaa emojit kuntoon. Yksi uusi jäsenkin näytti putkahtaneen tästä videosta.
@Valmentaja
@Valmentaja 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Todellakin, kyl noita omia juttuja kannattaa mainostaa säännöllisesti
@MooseDuckVlogs
@MooseDuckVlogs 9 ай бұрын
Kiitos for the Video.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Eipä mitään! Hyvä että maistuu! Thanks for watching again 🙌
@pyrrhusofepirus8491
@pyrrhusofepirus8491 2 ай бұрын
5:10 I always find Christio-Pagan syncretism really interesting, I recall the Teutonic Knights who fought the pagan Prussians, Balts and Lithuanians (and kept fighting the Lithuanians due to not trusting their conversion due to previous incidents), slowly incorporating pagan practices, including separating a portion of battle-loot to be offered to God, and mercy-killing the injured on and off the battlefield.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 ай бұрын
Yes! Almost like we as humans adopted new things we discover from others... :D
@Redlurk3
@Redlurk3 9 ай бұрын
JOO! More Anttimation!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Rest assured, there will be!
@user-mg2ip8cr8z
@user-mg2ip8cr8z 9 ай бұрын
we often learn about how the Lithuanians are Europe's last Pagans . How ever this is not so , the eastern Finns of the Volga region = Mari , Udmurt & Mordvinia's are in fact the last standing . Half of Mari are still practicing there ancestoral faith = Chi Mari Yula , while of the other half most are syncretic practicing both religions . They still have a priesthood the Karts & practice there religion in sacred groves . The Udmurt's are largely Christian but there is a small Pagan minority .
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
We had a band of Udmurts playing in high school and telling about their culture. It was pretty cool. Much of the studying of Finnish mythology was/is done by comparing it with that of the related peoples'. When it comes to the last pagans, I guess we are usually thinking from a present day nation state point of view.
@hakosaari
@hakosaari 9 ай бұрын
Great stuff! Trolled 2 when?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Cheers! It's been delayed quite a bit. First I moved to Greece a year and a half ago and now moving back. Been busy with work the past year and the opposite this year so hunting for projects... It's about 80% done though and hopefully out by the end of the year!
@hakosaari
@hakosaari 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Take your time :) I'm looking forward to read it! The work thing is a bummer, what kind of projects are you looking for?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
@@hakosaari I do mostly explainer and ad animations. Done a bit more illustration this year and trying to find sponsors for these videos 🤓
@hakosaari
@hakosaari 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Awesome! Good luck with the project hunt. Very cool that you've done more illustrating!
@fortunewrangler8524
@fortunewrangler8524 2 ай бұрын
My Grandma Saari (who had a BornAgainPagan bumper sticker on her truck my whole childhood) was first generation Finnish-American. She was my closest family member. Her parents and her dads brother invaded Michigan. Then after they had 8 living kids they move to California around 1950. But, they moved to Quincy where there is still plenty of snow, fir and pine so they could be loggers. I'm only 25% Finnish but that's the most out of the 10 other "nationalities" I'm told I'm a mutt of. I was raise more over with the redwoods and ocean. But, I would go visit my more Finnish family as a kid. We even went ice fishing New Years day 1999. Wake up when it's dark and go hangout on a frozen lake. I don't know, it seemed sorta Finnish. Anyway, could you do one on the history of the Sauna? Have you done one?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! A sauna video has been in the back of my head for a long time, and needs to be made at some point, better sooner than later...
@user-yd2xm2mb3z
@user-yd2xm2mb3z 6 ай бұрын
Hahahaha the translations are the best part of this video!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 6 ай бұрын
Haha glad to hear 😁
@nerdwisdomyo9563
@nerdwisdomyo9563 9 ай бұрын
I just love the realistic cloths armor weapons fortresses etc. I used to be really into swords and castles and stuff, i even have gambeson, dude gambeson needs more love its so cool
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
I got into that stuff as a small kid. Still haven't outgrown it nor do I have any plans to do so 😁
@nerdwisdomyo9563
@nerdwisdomyo9563 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation same! tho im super rusty and don’t really watch that stuff anymore, maybe i should go on another metatron and shadiversity binge
@user-kk5zp5sd9r
@user-kk5zp5sd9r 3 ай бұрын
This is a rather accurate narrative of Finnish history. The anti-church agenda makes it less professional, however. Colonialisation and conversion happened, and that is a historical fact for good and bad. It took place some 1000 years ago, so you already by now you can have some objectivity vis-a-vis it.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 3 ай бұрын
Thanks fir watching and commenting! I will try to be more objective re: church when religion is no longer a sacred get-out-of-jail card and excuse for horrible behavior in society :)
@PoppopPoppipappaa-vo7in
@PoppopPoppipappaa-vo7in 11 күн бұрын
2:35 Why does he being a decent man for putting his bag on rack sound so controversial
@ilokivi
@ilokivi 7 ай бұрын
Kiitos tästä videosta, kaptionit ovat aivan oikein ja tosi hauskaa. Ovatko loppuväriset ruotsalaiset, vai vain taiteellinen? En ole varma, vain utelias.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
Kiitos! En ihan ymmärtänyt kysymystä 🤔 Tarkoitatko sinistä ja keltaista? Ne on siksi, että näyttävät hyvältä, ei Ruotsin takia. Mutta sopii sinänsä kun Ruotsin vallan ajasta puhutaan.
@gabrielgabriel5177
@gabrielgabriel5177 7 ай бұрын
Historiallinen puoli kertomuksissasi on ihan hyvää ja videosi ovat todella mielenkiintoisia. Tosin oma subjektiivinen kristinuskon vastainen kantasi näkyy näkyvästi läpi. Itse ajattelen, että harmi että Venäjä ei saanut syvemmin juurrutettua pyhää ortodoksisuutta koko suomeen, mutta kunnia Jumalalle ortodoksinen Kirkko edelleen on suomessa ☦️🇫🇮💪
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
Juu uskonto on paskaa, enkä yritä sitä peitellä. Vastustan kanssa Venäjän juurruttamaa... kaikkea ;)
@gabrielgabriel5177
@gabrielgabriel5177 7 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation joo jokaisella saa olla omat mielipiteensä. Ja jokainen saa myös tehä sellasia videoja ku haluaa. Mut Ihan vaan vaan vinkkinä et jos haluat mahdollisimman uskottavan esityksen historiasta niin sen tulisi olla myös mahdollisimman objektiivinen eikä pitöö sisällään vanhvoja mielipiteitä ja kannanottoja. Muuten ei länsikään ole yhtään sen parempi. Ja uskonnottomuus on nimenomaan modernia länsimaista rationalismia jonka propagandaa suomen koulujärjestelmä on tukenut jo vuosikymmeniä.
@manumainio3451
@manumainio3451 4 ай бұрын
Ihan rehellisestihän se kertoo. Ei keskiajan kristittyjen teoissa ole mitään juhlimista. Ensin pyydät objektiivisuutta, mutta sitten kutsut koulujen rationalismia propagandaksi. Ei selkeästi ryssän tukijalla paljoa päässä liiku.
@chuiga2935
@chuiga2935 9 ай бұрын
Ristiretket, pakanauskontojen hävitys ja noitavainot on kyllä semmoisia asioita jotka pistää kyseenalaistamaan että onko kristinusko edes pyhä ja hyvä uskonto. Millainen jumala antaa ihmisten tappaa omissa nimissään kokonaisia kyliä. Laumojen hallitsemistahan tuo on. Pistää kuitenkin veren kiehumaan, että hyvää tekevät tietäjät, myrrysmiehet, noidat jne eivät saaneet jatkaa (virallisesti, joskus siitä joutui oikeuteen ja saattoi saada rangaistukseksi kuoleman pahimpien vainojen aikaan) kansalaisten auttamista ja parantamista vaan siksi että koko kansa piti saada liekaan. Mietin usein että miten kuinka monimuotoinen ja luonnonläheinen monikin eri kulttuuri saattaisi olla tänä päivänä ilman pakanauskontojen hävitystä. Mitä traditioita ja asioita meillä olisi (juhlapyhät aikalailla tietysti samat, kirkkohan nekin omi) jokapäiväisessä elämässämme, näkisimmekö maailmaa myös enemmän hieman henkisestä näkökulmasta? Itse pidän muinaisuskontoja todella mielenkiintoisena aiheena ja kansanuskomukset ovat toinen joista on hauska lueskella. Sori tämmöinen kärkäs kommentti :D
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Kiitos kommentista! Ei haittaa ollenkaan :) Täysin samaa mieltä. Koitan edes hiukan rajoittaa omien mielipiteideni sullomista videoihin, niin kristinuskon kritiikki rajoittuu lähinnä vitseihin.
@chuiga2935
@chuiga2935 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Täysin ymmärrettävää että miksi :'D
@SatumainenOlento
@SatumainenOlento 9 ай бұрын
Erinomainen kommentti!!!
@ollikoskiniemi6221
@ollikoskiniemi6221 6 ай бұрын
Tuohon on yksinkertainen vastaus. Jumala ei hyväksy mitään murhaa. Jumala antoi ihmiselle vapaan tahdon, jotta ihminen voisi olla oma yksilö, harjoittaa moraalia sekä lähestyä Jumalaa omasta tahdostaan. Ihmisen pahuus on vapaan tahdon hinta. Mikään murha ei ole moraalisesti hyväksyttyä kristinuskossa, eikä ole ikinä ollut kristinuskolle. Jotkut hölmöt saattavat tehdä väärää Jumalan nimessä, mutta se itse on suuri synti, "älä käytä väärin Jumalan nimeä".
@ollikoskiniemi6221
@ollikoskiniemi6221 6 ай бұрын
Muutenkin ristiretket ja pakanauskontojen hävitys on kristinuskon näkökulmasta hyvä asia, niin pitkään kun ketään ei murhata tai kenellekkään ei tehdä muuta pahaa tai pakkokäännytetä. On muutenkin järkeenkäymätöntä kutsua kristinuskoa epäpyhäksi tai "huonoksi" uskonnoksi, koska kristinusko itse on kristillisessä yhteiskunnassa ja kristillisessä perinteessä pyhyyden ja hyvyyden määrittäjä.
@vasara2385
@vasara2385 8 ай бұрын
Finns (like most other Europeans for that matter) were divided between different tribes during that time, but there still existed some sort of common Finnish cultural identity already during the Merovingian period (8th century). So calling these tribes Finns is not really wrong.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. Not entirely right either but I go with it for the sake of convenience.
@vasara2385
@vasara2385 7 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Well, all these tribes had the exact same origin anyway, and the tribal divisions happened within the area that is now Finland. Finns arrived at Finland’s southwestern coast from northern Estonia. Some stayed in southwestern Finland, some went north to Satakunta, Ostrobothnia and southern Lapland, and some went east to Tavastia and Karelia. Later during the Middle Ages, some peasants from southern Tavastia and Karelia went to the Lakeland area in eastern Finland to settle these sparsely populated areas at the request by the Swedish crown who wanted to expand the territory of the realm as a buffer against Novgorod/Russia. Later during the 1600s, there were also migrations to Ingria from the Lakeland area. This is at least how I understand it.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
@@vasara2385 Yes, it is the history of these ancestors of ours that this series covers. I'm not disagreeing with you at all! To add to the soup, and another why I say it's not entirely correct to say Finns in the context of Iron Age/Middle Ages is that 'Finns' is often used in the sources but sometimes refers specifically to Finns in (today's) Finland proper, sometimes to Sami/Lapps etc, who at the time didn't identify as one people although from today's POV we could (justifiably) say so.
@alwaysawretch
@alwaysawretch 8 ай бұрын
what inspired noah's depiction at 2:32? he seems to be drawn as non-human
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
A more Neanderthal-like, strong, primordial build than modern (or Medieval like the rest of the video) humans
@CthulhuAteUs
@CthulhuAteUs 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this series. - Pagan American of Finnish decent, and a history buff.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Good to hear the effort is worth it 💪
@MessiahsandMythology
@MessiahsandMythology 9 ай бұрын
It should be noted that becoming a saint (on paper) is actually quite easy so long as you die doing something “in the name of God”. It’s more about WHAT you become saint of after you die. Best example is poor St. Polycarp, literally set on fire, doesn’t die from the 3rd degree burns, is then stabbed to finish the job, then he gets christened “Saint of Dysentery” Oh to die for such an honorific title…
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
You could do a video on the dude and the jokes would pretty much write themselves 😅
@MessiahsandMythology
@MessiahsandMythology 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation That’s… not a bad idea…
@Mik31276
@Mik31276 9 ай бұрын
I’d like to hear your take on the story of trolls hunting priests that Finntroll uses.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Me too tbh, I have not seen the source for that 😅
@Mik31276
@Mik31276 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Ok, thought was a deeper source. Well then, are you a fan of Finntroll?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Of course I am! 🤘 I'm not saying the story is false - I just haven't seen the source. Also worth noting that in medieval Swedish texts, 'troll' refers to a shaman/witch rather than a monster.
@hanbill
@hanbill 9 ай бұрын
Vihdoin pääsin tilailemaan, en malta odotella
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Kiitos paljon!
@easytiger6570
@easytiger6570 5 ай бұрын
0:35 Bro did Estonia dirty
@larrywave
@larrywave 9 ай бұрын
Itse en ole täysin vakuuttunut etteikö ristiretket olisi tapahtuneet mutta hyvä video joka tapauksessa 😄
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
Kiitos. Juu voi hyvin olla, ja varmasti on tapahtunut paljon uskomattomampia asioita kuin osaamme kuvitella. Mitä kauemmas mennään Suomen historiassa taaksepäin, sitä vähemmän yleensä tiedetään varmasti.
@pappapata
@pappapata 5 ай бұрын
I love how you do us dirty 😂🇸🇪👌🙏❣
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 5 ай бұрын
Haha, glad you could take it not seriously 😁
@manumainio3451
@manumainio3451 4 ай бұрын
You did yourselves dirty. We're just realistic.
@bpsalami9864
@bpsalami9864 8 ай бұрын
Is the Swedish-speaking population of Finland descendants of these invaders? They have unique Swedish dialects that aren't spoken anywhere else in the world, such as the dialects of Närpes and Jakobstad.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
Yes, they are. Descendants of invaders and settlers that have developed their unique "Moomin Swedish"
@bpsalami9864
@bpsalami9864 8 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation I hope those dialects don't extinct soon
@gabrielgabriel5177
@gabrielgabriel5177 7 ай бұрын
Glory to God orthodox church still exists in Finland ☦️☦️☦️♦️♦️♦️🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
@ollikoskiniemi6221
@ollikoskiniemi6221 6 ай бұрын
Calm down with the anti-christian remarks
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 6 ай бұрын
You think? 😁
@pekkaolavipiskunen4660
@pekkaolavipiskunen4660 4 ай бұрын
LALLI IS FINNISH SAINT NOT SHOULD B
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 4 ай бұрын
Is he? 🤔
@albertito77
@albertito77 9 ай бұрын
Christ is King y'all
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
King of what? The historical inspiration for the Bible's Jesus character was some insignificant doomsday prophet that one could find twelve in a dozen back in the day.
@albertito77
@albertito77 9 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation King of you bro. Accept it. The dozens of executed messiahs back in the first century amounted to nothing. Their followers disbanded once their guy was dead. There was something different about Jesus
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 9 ай бұрын
@@albertito77 something different than Muhammad, Thor, communism, Shiva...? No, all the same. Imaginary forces.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
Evidence of Exodus? 😂 Noah's ark found? 😂 Dear fellow human, it is not me who is in denial.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
@@itsZaxus so does Zeus, Ukko, Shiva, Sauron, Peter Pan and other imagined creatures. ;)
@Ciobanu23568
@Ciobanu23568 Ай бұрын
Jesus is king☦️Best pagan ritual is converting to Christianity😂😂😂
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Ай бұрын
Jesus, or the historical inspiration for the character, was a doomsday prophet and agitator. Not a king.
@gillisthom
@gillisthom 2 ай бұрын
Finland was like Wakanda until the Swedes arrived.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 ай бұрын
How is Wakanda?
@gillisthom
@gillisthom 2 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Very nice, albiet somehat expensive, hot, and humid
@user-gh1wk6xo4m
@user-gh1wk6xo4m 2 ай бұрын
Can you just give us the history and not your opinion?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 ай бұрын
I could, but prefer it this way
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