agree completely

As soon as the guy flats from the small blind with QJs and then says the BB is always squeezing you know it’s going to be a good one.

Just from the title alone you know it’s going to be good. Hopefully this caller is willing to learn from his mistakes.

I didnt understand whats meant by that. Somethings wrong with the hero or somethings wrong that villian is calling?

@@godwin0605if you’re betting for value you should be happy if you get called. If you’re not, you shouldn’t have bet.

It does that mean you shouldn’t bet the flush with a paired board because there is the possibility you are beaten - or more a productive of betting out in that situation when the board pairing hits villain’s range.

I could tell the caller was playing scared right from the start. He was playing pot control from the first moment, and clearly trying to lock up his 3k win and big stack.

I don't think it's that bad in a live game against a bad player... except the river. Could have bet smaller turn to just go for value with a smaller bet river to get called by a king (or aces with the Ah?) or maybe bigger to jam for pot on the river if my opponent calls too much.

@@Jermo484 lol I was just trying to throw a Bart-ism out there! 😂

Not if he called the river, max value

From the beginning! Fold or three bet.

Out to lunchhhhhhhhhh😂

I think it’s perfectly fine not to have a plan or a goal for the whole hand. But it is important to know what you would do after each action you make, and how you would respond. Or to think about the next community card and what you would do on an x.

Agreed, that’s the most visible hand that takes this line. I think KQ might even take this line sometimes when checked to OTR to fold out small flushes

I'd be surprised if villain thinks he's bluffing betting with AhKx here

Agree with Epic, don't think villian is shoving with trips as a bluff, it's for value just happened to get the best hand to fold

Yeah 98% of the time that's the play. There are some boards that it might make sense to lead on but that sure as hell wasn't one of them.

That’s why i like the check call on river, chances are if you bet you only get rrtaised by hands that beat you. But bet fold seems bad. If he was anything but super agro, you can check fold/ bet fold. But let him hang himself if that’s his style . If he has it he has it. But he would call / reraise if he does anyway. But the most likely way he goes all in on the river where ypu win is by letting him bluff,

My thoughts exactly. You only VPIP when you have a clear advantage in the hand. I don't see how he has any advantages here, and is clearly scared of playing against the guy on his right. I think he thought the original raiser was a donk and that's why he is involved.

Justifying every fear

This maniac opponent is what makes this a pretty easy call too.

I totally agree with this. Sometimes in poker you have a very good hand that obligates you to call.

My thought exactly. If you got it you got but I could never fold this.

You can't win 51% of the time w/o losing 49% 😉😉

What is wrong with being scared on a call? Does it mean you need to play better hands or pick better spots,?

I think villain has it 100% of the time here, villain was led into on the flop and turn and just called so he definitely has all the nutted hands here and i'm not sure why you think villain would play any other line here in position. Villains line makes absolute sense. I'm not saying Hero played this well at all but i think if you're snapping the river all the time you'll be shown a better hand than QhJh a lot of the timr

@@seanariamd9581 agreed. Steph must be a fish

Perfect spot to do it as well. An open from a guy he describes as playing every hand and a 3-bet from a guy he does describes as squeezing every hand. Their ranges are so weak.

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj exactly

Not a common play but if you're gonna balance your AA/KK range it's the time do it I guess

Snap call. Nothing beats him here

Meh I think he is playing it like a scared AK. Or AQ with a heart that took a shot repping AK.

That plus the opponent was a maniac.

@@jamesbell1613 And a maniac would lead with a draw so he would think that's what the hero did... but he would also value-own himself on that river.

That's what I was thinking. You can't fold here because you either look like you're semi-bluffing with Ah, or are playing scared with a small flush or AKo. So a maniacal player will smell blood.

@@Adam-fb5nt Horrible fold against the maniac. I almost feel it's redundant to find out what he had, although it is annoying not knowing.

This line is good if you want to induce an all in and plan to call it

If this hand is played normally, all the chips should be in the middle by the turn. I know the BB is aggressive, but theres not many natural full houses that matches any 3-bet squeeze range. Pocket 4s and 6s is most Likely just calling, K6 and K4? Nah… dont think so. Pocket Ks? Only one combo. At the river you are blocking full houses with Your J as well. Cant really fold there either. Better flushes? Hard to have that too. Must-call that all in boy.

​@@goodsuggestionbutno6783 Exactly. After flop check-raise, turn is an easy jam. Villain's AK and all his AhXx hands are in hell. Any semi-strong king like KQ no heart needs to fold but can villain lay down such a hand knowing I could have the stiff ace of hearts myself? These kinds of tough spots are where weak players make big errors and increase our profits. If you like your hand out of position, force money into the pot. Don't wait. Nothing good is going to happen by waiting in most situations OOP.

And basically no logical boats. He could have the one combo of kings or the one combo of KJ suited. The opponent played it horrendously if he has 4s or 6s and probably shouldn't have just flatted the lead and the turn bet with the nut flush. I know the opponent is probably just bad, but there's no logical way we're beat except two combos.

Yeah I was going to say it seems like he is playing too high of stakes and is making bad plays because of it.

@@buzz4162 I was playing based on lies, give me a break

why do you deserve a break

@@mynameissteve9984 no worries we’ve all been there.

@@spoder22 PArents fucking sold me, I didnt do shit. My first memory is mom shutting windows to beat me at 4 yo , Look i never complain but a break is deserved i did th whole 2016 psychosis and now again , i took more punishment then any single one of you fucks.

I would definitely agree with the idea that donk betting in general allows the opponent to simply play better vs you. There are exceptions but I think most players add it as a tool because they think it's fancy but in practice is just makes them even easier to read than they think it does. (I also think this is a really good example of that because I do think it's very likely hero got pushed off a better hand.)

Thats what id say if i bluffed

I would also be pissed if I had the nut flush or quads and the guy just hero check folds a monster like a total nit. So I would make him wonder if he got bluffed.

For sure, but you gotta know that its a double bluff fake out spot, if you actually work with live reads effectively it's a super strong move. I'd only ever do it in this spot if I'm leaning towards a call cos I wouldn't want villains to know I made such a strong fold but definitely made some crazy calls and folds based on live tells, specifically involving showing my hand. (Home Games only, in my state casino hand is dead if you show like this [because it's to elicit a reaction!!])

I've showed pocket 99 in a 3bet pot. It was an overpair to the flop and I folded on the flop and then showed to get a reaction. Villian was a beginning player and a supernit so I knew I made a good fold. Some hands later I got in a hand with a different player and I called a river allin with pocket 4 beating his A high. I had only been player maybe 30 min. and knew villian could act on my perceived willingness to overfold. He also seemed to have a physical tell which weighted me towards calling. This was showing my hand after the hand was over which is different than showing during the hand for a reaction which has become poor edicate. I see it mostly like in this caller's example after they have tanked for a very long time to prove why they need to take so long more than trying to get a reaction. If your opponent has a propensity for physical tells, you can get the same information by cutting out your chips and look like your going to make a call and watch their reaction.

I kind of agree. He sets himself up for a pot sized jam on the river with a hand that isn't comfortable with pot sized jam. Just a bad betting in general.

Check calling the river would have made some sense against this maniac.

@James Bell Checking the river only makes sense if you are fully prepared to call any bet. Otherwise you have shown incredible strength the entire hand why stop betting. If you were going to start playing just to defend you should have done it when the board paired on the turn.

Are you playing online poker?

Fold

practice paying attention to other people's hands. Try to build an image of the other players in your head.

@@pot_kivach160 no..... this is live at casinos

Also.... I find tht live cash 1-3, everyone/many just limp calls.... with all kinds of hands from strong to trash.... this feels much different than these videos.....

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I think he was saying to have some trappy flats with the intention to back raise with a big pair, not the QJ suited

@@souljah8720 yeah I think QJ is probably too out of line. But feels like some Axs could be thrown in there along with AA/KK.

There are too many wrongs here. Lol 1) this hand is good to fold without contemplating what BB might do or not do. 2) if SB wants to enter the pot ANYWAY, and knows BB is going to 3bet, then it is only a good move to 3bet himself!! Why? BB might: a) folded. B) just called C) 4bet - then SB must fold (or shove 😂) 3) calling with this hand while OOP is bad move. Cuz most of the time SB will be humiliated. That's why calling here in any case! makes no sense in my books, anyway. . To answer your Q direcrly: Bart (vehemently) disagreed that SB should called if he knew BB would've raised and strongly advised a fold. I don't think it's a good advise, depending on what SB WANTS to do with his hand (JQs). See my comment above. Like I said: the hand is to fold, however, it is playable (not a garbage) depending on personal preferance. I respect Caller's choice (even though I disagreed with). Hope this helps.

Someone else to 3bet on your behalf?? I can see that useful only if you're holding AA. In ALL other situations, it's damaging.