The South China Sea and Asia Pacific in Transition: Exploring Options for Managing Disputes

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Center for Strategic & International Studies

Center for Strategic & International Studies

8 жыл бұрын

The CSIS Southeast Asia Program hosted its second annual conference on Maritime Security in the South China Sea June 27-28, 2012. (Read more at csis.org/events/south-china-s...)

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@user-mx1ye3ne3o
@user-mx1ye3ne3o 2 ай бұрын
China keep on insisting on history that has no legal basis. Fishermen from nations around that sea ventured in that area before, not only chinese. Indonesians, Malaysians, Vietnamese, Brunei and Filipinos were fishing in that sea long long time ago. It is only China that claimed they owned the entire sea. UNCLOS was approved and signed by almost all nations purposely to avoid misunderstanding among nations when it comes to territorial seas. But because of China's greediness they violated it. Peace and stability in the region will only achieve if China obey international law (UNCLOS).
@GinalynSerrano-xn9hs
@GinalynSerrano-xn9hs Ай бұрын
The Vietnam man is a brilliant one
@boogieman4170
@boogieman4170 Ай бұрын
WHat can you do with the western designed law if we don’t follow?
@renatopagsuguiron9430
@renatopagsuguiron9430 15 күн бұрын
Is watching Glory to God 🙏
@antonioaguilar2392
@antonioaguilar2392 Ай бұрын
Where and when did the Chinese so called 9 dashline was ever established and accepted by international order, even before the Spanish era and even before world war 2 or at least after world war 2 and the UN established, the EEZ established or UNCLOS established.
@user-mx1ye3ne3o
@user-mx1ye3ne3o 2 ай бұрын
China's representative explanations of their nine dash line is hard to understand bec it is not in accordance with international law.
@zanekameafraginal7655
@zanekameafraginal7655 Ай бұрын
China will not listen to International Law
@turongguro4080
@turongguro4080 Ай бұрын
China insisted what there want, The important are WE/ or Everybody must follow the international Law, according to UNCLOS.
@a27642487
@a27642487 Ай бұрын
美國遵守了?
@Minnie--ru2ew
@Minnie--ru2ew Ай бұрын
@@a27642487US is not a signatory of UNCLOS? What is your contention with the US? Did the US encroach any islands or shoals in the South East Asian countries?
@Minnie--ru2ew
@Minnie--ru2ew Ай бұрын
The treaty of Paris in 1898 then the Treaty of Washington in 1900 between the US and Spain gives clarity to the maritime zones. And in 1930 the treaty of Britain also clarified the Treaty of Washington.
@GeorgeSchumpf
@GeorgeSchumpf Ай бұрын
You claim the Ching dynasty delineated a U-shaped map line showing sovergnty of most of the the south china sea. Please tell me where, what historical maps? Former Justice Carpio asserts that all historical maps of China, predating 1947 show Hunan as the southernmost part of china.
@alpioinguillo9762
@alpioinguillo9762 Ай бұрын
Good Question,,,, What is the meaning for understanding
@davidjagan2794
@davidjagan2794 Ай бұрын
The law is very important in all matters. The history is not important bcoz its very confused the people. For example just like we make boundary, that must use law to defend or protect your borders or lands taken by somebody freely. In that case, we need law of land from Land & Survey Dept. for get it grant . The same also in South China Sea dispute, that why the International Law must very important in that matter.
@gloriabort8422
@gloriabort8422 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear the Philippines speak .
@phamhuytu7701
@phamhuytu7701 8 жыл бұрын
Hainan (Chinese: 海南; pinyin: About this sound Hǎinán (help·info) ; Hainanese: Hái-nâm; Jyutping: Hoi2 Naam4; literally: "South of the Sea [Qiongzhou Strait]") is the smallest and southernmost province of the People's Republic of China (PRC). The name "Hainan" also refers to Hainan Island (海南岛, Hǎinán Dǎo), the main island of the province. Hainan is located in the South China Sea, separated from Guangdong's Leizhou Peninsula to the north by the shallow and narrow Qiongzhou Strait. Hainan was part of Guangdong Province until 1988, when the island became part of the newly created Hainan Province (海南省, Hǎinán Shěng). The province has an area of 33,920 square kilometers (13,100 sq mi) and is China's southernmost province From: Wikimedia
@user-me6gi2hu4f
@user-me6gi2hu4f 2 ай бұрын
You're not from the bullied country. That's very sure. How will you explain of China's dredging and degradation of eco and maritime system of the Phil. How about the infiltrators and spies Ang illegals and fugitives of China,. Eat your words man.
@eduardodelfin9162
@eduardodelfin9162 21 күн бұрын
If we follow China's logic Africa should own the whole world.
@emelitaregalado-dejesus4987
@emelitaregalado-dejesus4987 9 ай бұрын
Good Job Sir.😊😊😊😊
@gloriabort8422
@gloriabort8422 2 жыл бұрын
Omg 😳! What happened to this man from Indonesia???
@RamonBarra-pz6ot
@RamonBarra-pz6ot 6 күн бұрын
Archipelagic Yes and Philippine is an Archipelago. Applying the core of conduct on maritime. Is there a stardard to operate?
@user-ns9zn2vo9x
@user-ns9zn2vo9x Ай бұрын
Good point from the Philippines representative.
@boogieman4170
@boogieman4170 Ай бұрын
Filipino has zero point!
@user-ns9zn2vo9x
@user-ns9zn2vo9x Ай бұрын
@@boogieman4170 bad point for you.
@eggnoy
@eggnoy Ай бұрын
​@@boogieman4170CCP troll
@hengmooihua7750
@hengmooihua7750 Ай бұрын
I hope that the South China Sea dispute can be settled as soon as possible. We Asian are peace loving people n we would like settled this in peaceful way. I think we can all solve this by more meetings n vote for the best solution. I hope US will not interfere in this matter as it will complicated matters.
@jerrycuandosoriano
@jerrycuandosoriano 21 күн бұрын
Communist China if you want to make deal and talk to them they infliment their evil tactics of double standard,what I mean is what is been negotiated and talk is closed and both party agreed Communist China do not Follow it,in short explanation Communist China system is what they say is different of what they do,to gain big advantage on that negotiation..
@zanekameafraginal7655
@zanekameafraginal7655 Ай бұрын
Interesting discussions and Dialoque to claimant and non claimant.
@erniep8214
@erniep8214 Ай бұрын
In both Ching and Ming dynasties China's boarder is demarcated by the province of Hainan as its most southern part of the country, never it mentioned that it owned the whole China Sea as defined in 9 dashed line claim.
@Minnie--ru2ew
@Minnie--ru2ew Ай бұрын
The Indonesian speaker makes more sense in his response.
@marbygerodias3966
@marbygerodias3966 Ай бұрын
ur argument is the history in 1947, before 1947 did you ever think the people in the philiipines is already fishing in that disputed islands? u cant compare ur 1947 history and the law that was established to respect the economic zone of each country. only issue her is that you have put bounderies and restrict pilipino fisherfolks to freely fish in the EEZ. ur just doing ur claims now because ur now one of the superpower. lets switch situations. philippines is the super power and ur not. are you ok that we claim the whole south china sea and put bounderies in your fisherfolks? disrespect the law of the sea? and watercannon ur chinese boats. what would you feel? i guess the same thing we are doing right now. reaching out other countries for support of our claims.
@andoxcv
@andoxcv Ай бұрын
Hahaha it is so hard to defend Chinese 9 dash line as it has no legal basis but a whim, i feel bad for the Chinese rep
@RamonBarra-pz6ot
@RamonBarra-pz6ot 6 күн бұрын
The UN must have a sanction on not recognizing the the dicesion they awarded , what are the sanction of the UN. For peace accords. They must issue a record to all the parties. So they must obey.
@nilacolinares1487
@nilacolinares1487 20 күн бұрын
Legality is all that matters not imaginary history before people exist
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
%100
@gerardodemesa6936
@gerardodemesa6936 Ай бұрын
China is to far away you can see the map
@anisfaozan3372
@anisfaozan3372 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Indonesia.......
@anisfaozan3372
@anisfaozan3372 8 жыл бұрын
Claim south china sea make china as a common enemy in the region.....
@anisfaozan3372
@anisfaozan3372 8 жыл бұрын
+dragondescendant1 You need to consult a mental hospital for psychiatric ... I feel sorry for you and hopefully get well soon
@anisfaozan3372
@anisfaozan3372 8 жыл бұрын
+dragondescendant1 Thank you for your concern ... I appreciate the other perspective
@dragondescendant1
@dragondescendant1 8 жыл бұрын
Anis Faozan don't mention it.
@phamhuytu7701
@phamhuytu7701 8 жыл бұрын
Asean have to unite, be careful with China lie
@zanekameafraginal7655
@zanekameafraginal7655 Ай бұрын
How to talk to a country who dont respect International Law.
@SAM_Felipe
@SAM_Felipe 15 күн бұрын
This Chinese rep is like the drunk guy in a wedding.
@malcantara5293
@malcantara5293 Ай бұрын
If history is the basis mongolia should claim all of china. Italy should claim all of europe. Thats the logic of chinas explanation
@zanekameafraginal7655
@zanekameafraginal7655 Ай бұрын
Guns on the %ables meaning WILD WILD WEST OR GANGSTERISM..
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
May komitis i 🙋🏻
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
Nus level big kos xdizine peling gi
@RamonBarra-pz6ot
@RamonBarra-pz6ot 6 күн бұрын
The third party is sleeping long time ago they must maintain the rules they decide, Hindi yong when they give decision, bahala na si batman senyo , batman is iconic character , UN has the responsibilities to act in accordance with their decision on ruling , patulog-tulog kayo sa pansitan. It is all on your fault you do not do what you do. You must be refresh, reconstruct, repormat. Even , update you cannot feed.
@legpol
@legpol 6 жыл бұрын
If China wants to own the South China Sea, she should declare to the world that she supports similar claims by other countries, such as those bordering on the Pacific Ocean. If Japan claims she owns a thousand miles of the waters in the Pacific Ocean, China will support Japan's claim.
@rexquiban2919
@rexquiban2919 Ай бұрын
your're out of context sir, i have no idea what exactly you are trying to explain.
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
Welcome wscjsb sevisese rum official
@felixselorio7412
@felixselorio7412 28 күн бұрын
That is why you name every islets in chinese names then you call that as your own? you name south china sea it means you own it? You just tour to other places the places you step in is yours? according to yur History. you give gift to sultan the place you already purchase, is that your History?
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
B
@rhaymzcable9417
@rhaymzcable9417 8 жыл бұрын
sulu sea
@user-gx2ry6hf8s
@user-gx2ry6hf8s Ай бұрын
Modern World Times, let’s apply UNCLOS … not ancient Laws.
@felixselorio7412
@felixselorio7412 28 күн бұрын
Spratly is belong to Philippines why you say to drill in it? stick to your own EEZ. it is called west Philippines SEA.
@odettepaulin2262
@odettepaulin2262 8 жыл бұрын
what happen to this Dr. here..his out of context.
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
48,30 sen suhu Yami to
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
3yami my nento
@zhangmaverick
@zhangmaverick 8 жыл бұрын
it is "in accordance with law" that China will neither participate in nor accept a case at a UN arbitration court unilaterally initiated by the Philippines over disputes in the South China Sea. It added that the case lacks both legitimacy and justification. The Untied States and Japan are ignoring basic facts, making the groundless accusation, aiming to set China against neighbors. China has indisputable sovereignty over Nansha Island and adjacent waters, backed by historical and legal evidence. The construction on China's own territory is not against international law. Philippines' arbitration request is not meant to resolve disputes, but to negate China's right. The most important thing for international law is who defines the international law.
@phamhuytu7701
@phamhuytu7701 8 жыл бұрын
in fact, does china dare to join the court with Phillipine?
@zhangmaverick
@zhangmaverick 8 жыл бұрын
huy tú phạm The case you have mentioned is installed by the United States and idiots, It is not only beneath the International Law and norms, even more beneath the sensible level to discuss that if China will become the dominant power in Asia, because this case is a Pseudo-proposition to refute the rights of territories of China and it is far from the justification to joint the case.
@phamhuytu7701
@phamhuytu7701 8 жыл бұрын
if you say the lawcourt in The Hauge (Netherland) is not international law, so which one is international law? i went to many countries and people there they said that why China is one of 5 biggest member of United Nation and never follow the law. They have many map evidence prove that Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands are parts of Vietnam. On the other hand, the last torritory of China is Hainan island, nothing any more.
@zhangmaverick
@zhangmaverick 8 жыл бұрын
huy tú phạm This is the question you should go back to school starting from grade one to learn more so that you can tell the truth.
@phamhuytu7701
@phamhuytu7701 8 жыл бұрын
what is the truth here. The truth is China stole islands from other countries. You can travel to whole the world ask the people, nobody believe in China, i'm sure. I have some Chinese friends, actually, they are well educated and they do not believe your Government.
@romanoerive9467
@romanoerive9467 Ай бұрын
Very simple to resolve the problem if china respectfully the law of sea and sovereignty rights the neighbor countries No problem arises.
@felixselorio7412
@felixselorio7412 28 күн бұрын
China knows their history and wants other to study and know them. why Study the history of other country and consider them.
@odettepaulin2262
@odettepaulin2262 8 жыл бұрын
maybe this dr. is drunk....forgive me!..
@eggnoy
@eggnoy Ай бұрын
Chinese rep is basically telling a fictional story
@Minnie--ru2ew
@Minnie--ru2ew Ай бұрын
The Indonesian audience who spoke on raising hard issues with china especially, make a good question.
@Technogeek74
@Technogeek74 3 ай бұрын
The look on the Filipino’s face say’s it all- all I hear is Bs and blah blah blah from the Chinese rep. 😂
@leonilacolinares8471
@leonilacolinares8471 19 күн бұрын
China has big problem because of large population they need more place territory to feed and accomodate their people period.
@ramongabutina8015
@ramongabutina8015 Ай бұрын
The Fil spkr failed to mention the treaty of Washington which validated the Phil owns the Spratlys,Scarborough,others which China informed the Arbitral Court it recognizes.Historical basis is the basis of China's claim,following that,China should return governance to Mongolia which originally dominate China.
@fairplay873
@fairplay873 Ай бұрын
One of the Chinese narratives..... as if only the Chinese knows early fishing. You must be dreaming....
@boogieman4170
@boogieman4170 2 ай бұрын
China has the technology to Make rock habitable and grow plants !
@user-ns9zn2vo9x
@user-ns9zn2vo9x Ай бұрын
So you mean man made island?, bad for the marine life.
@alpioinguillo9762
@alpioinguillo9762 Ай бұрын
Technology and greed and power violates territories
@user-ry3fi2iw4e
@user-ry3fi2iw4e Ай бұрын
As if china don't respect the international law. China is the law. If the law is against china its not a law. If it favors china then its the law😅😅
@felixselorio7412
@felixselorio7412 28 күн бұрын
Your history has no legal basis. and of course you can create your own History to obligate your claim.
@dormamo6917
@dormamo6917 8 жыл бұрын
china cannot defend the legal status of the 9 dash line lol.
@asongslove
@asongslove 6 жыл бұрын
Talk to my hand
@legpol
@legpol 6 жыл бұрын
If drawing some lines on the map could determine sovereignty, then the Philippines should be allowed to own thousands of miles of the Pacific Ocean if it draws 9 dashes on her maps. Any other country may follow suit.
@Neveragainnnn
@Neveragainnnn 2 жыл бұрын
@@legpol correct… well said. China needs to reverse its absurd stand regarding the area.
@shahrizal-zt2qy
@shahrizal-zt2qy 25 күн бұрын
House leavel soping Discovery channel to king of people just different personle One of buding hoding ariyel aripot lot of people are going back NGOs 2 biliyon teliyon mega porjet mai porogese kateri gavemen Malaysia tu Goot seving pegabis hate bede di dunia ini
@starjosephlaw3907
@starjosephlaw3907 8 жыл бұрын
Do. most female prostitutes are comments are not Hurd.
@gregortega5260
@gregortega5260 25 күн бұрын
From china history of dynasties, no Chinese expedition reached the West Philippines Sea. The famous Chinese explorer Zheng He never ventured towards the Philippines. Chinese interest was to know more the developed culture of Europe. His successive expeditions were towards Europe. The Chinese have no interest with the archipelagic islanders on G-strings they consider lower culture. Therefore, china have no rights to claim the territory and intrude in the exclusive economic zone of the Philippines. All their interest is the oil and gas in the West Philippine Sea. The Chinese speaker is lying through his teeth.
@fairplay873
@fairplay873 Ай бұрын
Just go back to your own Chinese historical maps and you will know the answer. Don't be a storyteller to amaze your audience....
@gloriabort8422
@gloriabort8422 2 жыл бұрын
Philippines the best!
@a27642487
@a27642487 Ай бұрын
NO
@VinceeeVinceee
@VinceeeVinceee Ай бұрын
you said you been doing that for 20 years....c mon...tell that to china first...seems you dont know what you're talk8ng about...telll that to china!!
@Minnie--ru2ew
@Minnie--ru2ew Ай бұрын
He has no basis of proving his people we’re fishing in those contested areas. “We think more communications”. “We people are peaceful people”. - Your (china’s) actions are contrary to your words. Facts of the matter is, China has been bullying its neighbors. The 3rd speaker makes more sense. The rule of law should prevail. If can’t be resolved by the disputing parties.
@Minnie--ru2ew
@Minnie--ru2ew Ай бұрын
“That is a line demarcated by chinese government”. - huh? You’re making your own laws to encroach into your neighbors’ seas? Have you noticed the SEA nations’ reactions to how ridiculous you sound?
@jerrycuandosoriano
@jerrycuandosoriano 21 күн бұрын
All of this chinese spokesperson is not on the topic,historical rights is the only things he only insisting, what the topic is the law to follow in the sea,non sense explanation..
@DominadorNarag-md6hz
@DominadorNarag-md6hz Ай бұрын
china always wanted a divided ASEAN nation....🙄😏🙄😏
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