He's playing with Arnold again! :P

Respect 🫡

Hello, LCTuba, are you by any chance a grad of Luther College in Decorah, Iowa?? I was a tuba in Noble's band in the 1960s. I persuaded W. Noble to buy the last 3 copies ever made of the Holton-York 6/4-size tubas, exact copies of Arnold Jacobs' horn. Unfortunately, Noble (no common sense) wouldn't buy cases, so the horns kicked around unprotected for 35+ years until F. Nyline foolishly sold them to Floyd Cooley (San Fran Symph) who cut them down to CC and sold them to a municipal band in Washington state. I'll never forgive Noble & Nyline for this stupendous blunder. In 1966, the LC Band played "Sensemaya" (tuba solo) in Lincoln Center featuring Walter Passmore on the Holton-York tuba; get the recording from Luther if it is still available. Luther, by now, SHOULD have digitized all of Noble's recordings so they could make them available on CD. But you know Luther; their attitude is "Noble's dead and gone; his work no longer matters." Maybe you and some other LC grads can persuade Luther otherwise. Please reply if you are a Luther grad. Thanks.

Yeah, I'm amazed it wasn't out there sooner.

@@johncanry2601 Well, this section certainly played louder and more aggressively than any section I can recall hearing since. You'd need to hear them live to make an informed comment, and I did many times. Philadelphia in the early 1980s also had a monster trombone section that was comparable to this one.

Of course, they weren't only very loud, they were also clean and their intonation was very good. Picking out an out-of-tune spot here and there is small potatoes and still a normal occurrence in professional brass sections. In person they were consistently breathtaking.

Pittsburgh in 1990's had a great section with Murray Crewe on Bass Trombone

@@bdc1117 Intonation probably helps a lot with the projection

saul rosa, is that true?

Word?

These recordings were originally released on CD but you'd be hard pressed to find one nowadays. I don't think they've manufactured this CD since the 70's.

+MastodonRockss i hate when that happens, o well thanks anyway! at least i got this link

MastodonRockss CD wasn't invented until 1994*

Angel Sanchez I think you can buy this CD on WindSong Press (Brian Frederikson's website). Edit: actually, I just looked, and I couldn't find it there. I'm sure I've seen it somewhere... I'll keep looking and try to remember where.

CD’s nutz

I don't know for sure. The part is probably written in alto clef, but judging by the timbre, I'd say he's probably still playing it on a tenor. Most of the trombone parts he wrote for in alto clef are still easily doable on a tenor, but this particular piece does sound pretty high.

The timbre seemed me too light and brilliant to be a tenor, but I couldn't know. Thanks for the answer :)

Fabrizio Monticelli Mmm, you could be right, it's hard to tell. But yeah, no knowing for sure. Maybe ask Jay Friedman.

+Fabrizio Monticelli Probably not in 1971, alto trombone wasn't really in vogue back then.

I've asked Jay Friedman and he confirmed that was a tenor. You thought right

No euph in orchestra. Only sometimes.

there is a euphonium in the planets excerpt, if you listen closely. but yes, orchestral low brass sections do not have euphonium full-time... that's for wind bands. what a shame

I wish euphoniums were in orchestra

To which piece?

Wagner

@@adhanda2017 How would you know that?

OK you win. I haven't heard anyone play it that slow..

Each to his own. I prefer the bright brassy sound to modern playing... after all they are 4th 5th and 6th trumpet... never understood the obsession with dark mellow sound.

@@steffenmrsk4720 tuba:

CSO recorded fountains of rome and so did Vienna, At times, I like Vienna’s darker mellower sound but at times I like CSO.

@@steffenmrsk4720 Thats the point of these instruments, if you want a bright brash sound, trombones can play with that tone, but in a delicate piece it won’t really fit in the texture, these instruments are supposed to be able to have these different color of sounds otherwise it’s just boring.