Here's my review of the Hoka Speedgoat 6, this midsole is rough! What do you guys think of the shoe?
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@ChristianRunsNY2 ай бұрын
Take me back to the Speedgoat 4 and EVO Speedgoat days!
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
1000%!
@ruiseverino76092 ай бұрын
The Evo Speedgoat as to be the best ever shoe Hoka have done. I still have one pair and everytime I run in them is like I'm getting one step closer to their end 😢
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
I just found a new pair of EVO’s on poshmark and have run in them twice, really weird how Hoka didn’t want to keep making that shoe and improving on it.
@ruiseverino76092 ай бұрын
@@swiftcolin 100% Dificult to understand you right. Its already their best shoe without much improvement on it.
@alpyoruk5 күн бұрын
Super honest and within just 5 minutes got the complete pros&cons. Thanks for the review. That midsole is a game loser, Hoka's main strength seems to be completely diminished, that posh ride... What a wrong design change descision...
@swiftcolin5 күн бұрын
Yea they definitely didn’t work for me unfortunately
@PhotoColinАй бұрын
From one Colin to another - thank you sir! Talked my self* out of 'em after trying on this week...
@swiftcolinАй бұрын
No prob Colin!
@davebrown11002 ай бұрын
I’m glad you said all this, as I loved my SG 4, just can’t get hold of them anymore.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Same! Grabbed a couple pairs when the 5’s came out and found a pair of EVO’s on poshmark luckily
@SimosKitiris2 ай бұрын
Same here - they were the best. SG5 upper sucked and I was hoping they fixed this but sad to see that the midsole changed for the worse. I have 2 pairs of Mafate 4, they are good shoes and don't have the problems SG5 had.
@AlasdairHood-bv1id2 ай бұрын
Totally agree on the midsole. It’s like cardboard compared to previous models. I’ve had multiple pairs of SG 2,3,4 and 5’s and irrespective of other issues - especially with the uppers, they’ve always had an all-day, plush ride that set them apart from other trail shoes. Now it’s gone, so has their differentiation and relevance. Super disappointing as it feels like the upper is going to work better on this model. Having to rethink what to wear on long days now.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Okay, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this! Definitely unfortunate, usually have to wait a couple years for a new model.
@leorunsoregon208213 күн бұрын
Damn:/ was looking forward to the 6s. I’ve used the same pair of the 5s for 3 50ks, many miles on trials and they have been great. I’ll be picking up another pair of the 5s while they’re still in stock and on sale 😂
@swiftcolin12 күн бұрын
If you like a dense midsole you may like them, not for me though.
@gabrielcontreras3993Ай бұрын
Great review! I recently purchased SG5 and really like them for daily trail runs. Don’t have experience with other SG but do have MS4 and love them. I would never purchase NORDA or SPEEDLAND because of ridiculous price! Yes I can get them but I would feel stupid to. Like cycling equipment, prices vary because of brands which I don’t get out of principle. A set of MAAP kit can cost about $600, no problem and thanks
@swiftcolinАй бұрын
Great points! Thanks for watching too
@Mark_Hemmings2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review Colin!
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@marcsyrene37812 ай бұрын
Bummer about the midsole. New upper with the SG4 midsole for the 7. Gonna have to find a new shoe now. The 5 midsole sucked compared to the 4. Hoka people want soft cush! By mile 13 in the Imogene pass run the bottom of my feet were killing me in the 5's.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Agreed, thinking of trying the Brooks Caldera 7
@ErrorMoose27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review
@swiftcolin26 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tomharvey-run2 ай бұрын
I bypassed the Speedgoat altogether and went straight for the Mafate Speed 4. Love it.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
If I go with a Hoka trial show again, it will be the Mafate!
@tomharvey-run2 ай бұрын
@@swiftcolin if they could shave off 25g it would be perfect. So comfortable with great midsole/grip
@twoseat22 ай бұрын
Same here. Loved the 2,3,4. Was disappointed with upper and grip on the 5. Will skip the 6 also. Too bad, SG was the absolute go to trail shoe for so many!
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Let’s hope the 7 is awesome
@user-tb6kc1bm8m2 ай бұрын
D problem is that these companies try to b cool and make ass from recycled crap rather than improve performance n quality
@seanwise74642 ай бұрын
I swore by the SG 2’s and 4’s for anything trail, 5 was a big disappointment all around and looks like the 6 is no better so I won’t even waste my time on them. Oddly the Zegama 2 seems to have swooped in to fill that void for me - really liking that one so far.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Would love to try the Zegama 2!
@grahmdoughty2 ай бұрын
@@swiftcolin I'll be curious what you think. To me they're worse in every way vs. the Zegama 1 (besides the Vibram), heavy and hot and less stable
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Might have to wait for the price to come down, but I loved the zegama 1 too except for the traction.
@dazdarren99262 ай бұрын
Your point about wondering if you received a dud based on the midsole comments might be worth bringing to Hoka’s attention. Maybe send the shoe back for them to inspect? Based on your comments I’m not buying it despite being a huge speedgoat fan
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Might be worth checking out!
@lej65502 ай бұрын
I like the 5s except for the uppers. Seems I’ll look for something else after they are done.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
They definitely improved the upper, but the midsole is boring
@MarkCrowe-kq6ce2 ай бұрын
I had two pairs of 4's (wore them out) have two pairs of fives (pretty shredded now) getting the 6's soon
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Let me know what you think of the 6’s
@MarkCrowe-kq6ce2 ай бұрын
@swiftcolin so had my first run in the SG6 today and WoW, I flew. I did 12miles in my 5's then jumped in my 6's for the last 6miles...they were like the lighter, race version 🫶👌🫶
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
@MarkCrowe-kq6ce glad they’re working for you!
@ruiseverino76092 ай бұрын
Seems like I'm going to by pass the SG6 buy I couple of 5's and wait for the 7's....
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Probably a good call if you like the 5’s
@runswithhorses12 ай бұрын
I ran in SG 3 and 4 and swore I would run in Speedgoat forever. Then version 5 came out and Hoka ruined the cushion. It sounds as if version 6 is not even worth a try so have moved onto an entirely different brand. Hoka- bring back the cushions of Speedgoat 3 or 4 and I will come back in a heartbeat!
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@jakevs627118 күн бұрын
@runwithorses1 what do you run with now? Im feeling the same as you. Thinking of going Mafate 4. Bought the SG6s today but definitely going to return them after seeing all these reviews. SG4s were my fav!
@runswithhorses117 күн бұрын
@@jakevs6271I am running in Nike Zygama. The foot bed is not my favorite but I am doing fine in them. I also fairly like the Saucony Trabuco max except I can feel the ground a bit much. Tried the Hoka Mofate and was disappointed as they lacked the cushion and bounce of SG 4.
@runswithhorses117 күн бұрын
@@jakevs6271 I now am running in Nike Zygama and they are fine. The foot bed is not the best shape for me but they are working well. I also have a pair of Saucony Trabuco Max 2 that feel good except I get too much ground feel while running on gravel roads and the Zygamas have more cushion/bounce. I bought the Hoka Mofate 4 and was disappointed in the lack of bounce and firmer cushion so they are retired with low miles as walking shoes. Some say they like the Mofate as well as the older SG versions but I don't see it. Never thought I could like a pair of Nikes, but they are my SG replacement shoe for now. I also have a pair of New Balance Fresh Foams which are super cushioned but I accidentally bought them a size too small. I think they are worth another try in the correct size. I think the cushion may have been enough to slow my pace a little, but for training I am more concerned about keeping my aging joints happy. For now, it is Nike Zygama.
@rmsrmsrmsrms2 ай бұрын
The Speedgoat line is dead for me after the 5. I loved the 2 and the EVO, the 5 was an attempt to cheaply lowball the EVO, and was a miserable failure.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
lol I see no lies
@Rainyfeels2 ай бұрын
I've only put 20km into my SG6 and for me the midsole is very very stiff. I think the shape and vibe of the shoe has moved back towards the SG4 but let's see if the midsole softens at all.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
They don’t feel much different after 100k but hopefully they soften up for you!
@Rainyfeels2 ай бұрын
@@swiftcolin I'm honestly really struggling to find the right shoe this season. Right now the best I have are the Mafate 4 but I can't fit my insoles in there and they are a bit thin width ways. I have 1 SG4 left unused still. Any recommendations? I just want a wideish cushioned grippy rockered trail shoe that can take technical terrain?
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Not sure if you’ve tried the North Face Vectiv Enduris 3, but they do pretty well in all those categories
@chrisottenstroer72022 ай бұрын
I value your reviews. So disappointed to hear this about the SG6… the SG5 for rolling carriage trail was fine but the midsole seems to go flat after 75miles. Can’t get the SG4 anymore. The Mafate 4 has been great for me on technical trails. What do you turn to for a cushioned every day non technical trainer?
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Right now I’m using my last two pairs of SG4’s, so I’m on the search for a new one. I just got the Brooks Caldera 7 but having to send them back because they run a little short, 10.5 usually fits me in every brand, but might try an 11 in the Caldera 7.
@pete8012 ай бұрын
Great review. Think I'll skip this version
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Don’t blame you lol
@chrisx2186Ай бұрын
Agree, the midsole is trash. Super firm, definitely not that marshmallow feel that Hoka is known for. The tongue is still not long enough or padded enough. I did 30 miles on them and then returned them. I am now in the Mafate Speed 4. I have been wearing Speedgoats since version 1. The best versions were the 2, 3 and the Evo. Maybe Hoka will get it right on the 7.
@swiftcolinАй бұрын
Sure hope the 7 is awesome
@randmcnally.2 ай бұрын
There is a wide in the SG6. Sounds like you should try another 100km in those ;)
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Haha maybe that would do the trick
@lavatinman10 күн бұрын
I noticed this and recently tried them on at the shop. The wide fit me perfect and the grip on them seems nice and soft, perfect for slick rock. I will probably gamble with these for the more technical mountain trails.
@SumukhDhawadeАй бұрын
can you please review agility peak 5
@swiftcolinАй бұрын
I would if they sent some to me lol
@willedwards44782 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. How would you compare this to the Caldera 6?
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Caldera 6 felt way better underfoot, softer and bouncier midsole for sure, but similar overall feel when it comes to fit and stack height.
@youpigirl57312 ай бұрын
@@swiftcolin je préfère les Caldera, surtout en fit avant pied, meme si elles sont un peu justes encore pour moi, les speed goat sont beaucoup trop étroites aux métatarses. Mais surtout, en terme d'adhérence elles ne sont vraiment pas top, malgré l'estampille "vibram". Non, vraiment, Hoka en trail, pas pour moi. j'hésite à me tourner vers Craft qui restent encore trop lourdes pour moi
@runswithdogs30692 ай бұрын
guess i will be stocking up on 5's
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
If you like the 5 it’s probably a good idea.
@kozakon22 ай бұрын
@@swiftcolin or switch to Mafates?
@123krisby2 ай бұрын
Thank you. What's your view on the stinson 7?
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
I’ve never tried the Stinson, looks like an interesting shoe though
@123krisby2 ай бұрын
@@swiftcolin yeah I heard great things would love to hear your opinion 🙌🏼🙌🏼🔥
@Rainyfeels2 ай бұрын
I'm honestly really struggling to find the right shoe this season. Right now the best I have are the Mafate 4 but I can't fit my insoles in there and they are a bit thin width ways. I have 1 SG4 left unused still. Any recommendations? I just want a wideish cushioned grippy rockered trail shoe that can take technical terrain?
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
I’d go with that last pair of SG4 for sure, I’ve also heard great things about the Nike Zegama 2 so far, just wish they were a little less expensive or I would try them.
@chris.schmied2 ай бұрын
Try the Asics Trabuco Max 3. I love mine.
@Rainyfeels2 ай бұрын
@@chris.schmied Thanks for the recommendation. I've tried them on at the store and the stack height is pretty huge so I'm worried about technical alpine terrain in them.
@chris.schmied2 ай бұрын
@@Rainyfeels I will do a review on them soon. I use them for technical runs here in the alps. I find them very stable. But that’s for my style of running. The Speedgoat 5 was terrible for me on technical terrain.
@Rainyfeels2 ай бұрын
@@chris.schmied Interesting, maybe I'll give it a try then? Any other favourites? I have fairly wide feet and have struggled a bunch - don't want 0 drops Altra etc.
@alehax27Ай бұрын
Disappointing to hear about the midsole. Everyone says the same thing. I love the 5s. Won't be buying the 6
@swiftcolinАй бұрын
Yea I was bummed, but I think they would work if you like firm midsoles.
@allthingsel995Ай бұрын
I am no longer a hoka customer. After 10 years of competitive running, and probably over 20+ pairs of specifically hoka shoes, they ruined their line up with the Challengers 7s being like rounded hard sketchers and the speedgoat 6s were an epic failure from wearing the lugs out in one backyard ultra and feeling sloppy almost immediately from the backs of the shoe being mis shaped, whyyyyy did they make this silly heel resting pop up area??? It looks like a reverse elf shoe.
@allthingsel995Ай бұрын
I am now officially only backing up Salomon. The ultra glides and aero glides are perfect and last over 2000km to a pair.
@swiftcolinАй бұрын
I was thinking of grabbing a pair of ultra glides too.
@ErrorMoose27 күн бұрын
Story as old as time. Big company buys smaller company making quality product and drives it into the ground for profit.
@swell_tuna2 ай бұрын
Way to shit on my parade. Just got a pair.
@swiftcolin2 ай бұрын
Haha hopefully they work for you!
@alaskahudson2 ай бұрын
Mine are sitting at home in my mailbox. Hopefully the wide version I ordered fits my feet.
@sevenfrommatthewАй бұрын
Just got a pair but just walking around my house I can tell what he is saying is true. May return today. Like others, I’m struggling to get a good trail shoe.
@ashleya.1080Ай бұрын
Oh wow a man not liking vibrant colors what a surprise. That’s why it’s so difficult to get fun shoes. Most of them being some sort of shade of grey or brown, ugh.
@swiftcolinАй бұрын
I love vibrant colours, but this combo is horrendous, also Hoka always has crazy colours to pick from!
@AaronVetsАй бұрын
🤡
@lavatinman10 күн бұрын
I know. I am tired of boring shoes. I like Saucony for the varied colorways.