Building the line along the Belt Railway of Chicago whould be a breeze! It paralells Cicero avenue for the most part, and would still have a good connection to Metra.

This is very similar to the Mid-City Transitway that was proposed a while back, alongside an underused rail corridor roughly two blocks east of Cicero. I believe the plan was to connect to the Blue Line around Montrose or Jefferson Park, which would've given O'Hare and Midway a much-needed direct transit connection. I also believe the plan was to extend this line, as well as the Orange Line, to Ford City Mall around 76th Street.

It's interesting to suggest Cicero Ave. It is a State highway that sometimes acts like highway, with not a lot of density on it. In my opinion I think down Western ave would be more beneficial and would still connect almost all the lines. But on Western it would have to be a cut and cover Subway.

I agree that the best choice for a crosstown CTA line is via the Belt Railway of Chicago. It would offer the city enormous new redevelopment opportunities. Maybe run thence along the Skokie Valley trail (ex CNW Mayfair-St. Francis bypass direct to the Yellow line. )

You mentioned subway being costlier but better than elevated to avoid noise near residential, but looking at Cicero Ave it looks like it's all commercial or industrial along most of its length, with residential half a block away or more. Modern elevated concrete structures, like DC's metro, are much quieter and can be built faster. Tunneling is expensive and cut/cover disrupts traffic/building access/trees more than building an elevated viaduct, so I think construction should opt for els. I've thought of what a non-loop line could look like before but as a non-local I thought a line along Kedzie that jogs over to Kimball to end at the brown line terminus would be nice. Admittedly it's a smaller road than Cicero and would miss the connection to MD-W and MD-N lines.

It would have been nice to show the location of the stops you suggest instead of stock footage of scenery passing by the train window.

1) that is why a Western BRT route is being proposed. If a Cicero rapid transit was ever built from North Ave to Montrose would need a few more stops as it is a denser area. I used to live 1 block away from Cicero btwn Diversey and Belmont so I know of what i speak.

A serious transit agency would have active proposals for both Cicero and Western Aves…as well a bunch of other projects like 63rd, Lawrence, etc. In the current environment, it takes about a decade to go from planning to building a major project. Having *none* of these projects in the works means the system will be stuck in the past for decades to come.

The Green Line was moved from street-level to the CNW trackage in 1962. The Cicero Line could be built along the existing Chicago Belt Railway right of way which parallels Cicero Avenue about two blocks east. This is roughly where Richard J. Daley wanted to put in the Crosstown Expwy back in the late 1960s. Nice video. Thanks for sharing.

In reference to the the line not necessarily having the demand: They did a study for a crosstown line, and they found out that the line would be both expensive and WELL used. Needless to say, they figured they couldn't get the money and left it at that. Of course, they ended up spending one billion dollars to build the Millennial Park, and that could have at least gotten the Cicero portion of the Crosstown built (what you suggested, although they thought about going down the railroad right of way for that).

I like your proposal for the most part. However, it leaves out the South Side. Perhaps after the Midway-Jefferson Park portion is built, the line could be extended southeast to connect with Metra lines at 79th/Kedzie and 87th/Vincennes, then the Red Line at 95th/State, finally terminating at the Metra Electric at 111th St in Pullman. I know this "pie in the sky," but one can dream.

Let's get this done.

I like that this proposal provides some areas that are further away from existing rail lines than others. A line along Cicero could create an incentive for new housing. With the Brown Line extension, it makes a great connection for Midway and O'Hare that doesn't require going through the loop.

AGREED. I'd also hugely appreciate some BRT to improve west/east connection. Going from the far north to O'Hare is a nightmare, because you HAVE to go to the loop and then take the Blue line northwest.

If you go even more south on the cicero line at 95th a short walk and you would be at metra Oakawn station. And a multitude of bus routes at midway orange line

I used to live in Oak Park and work near O'Hare. A pain to drive, so I took, if I remember correctly, three connecting bus lines (including Pace) to do it. It was a pain in the butt because if I missed one of the buses, which happened the first week I tried this, I was stranded for an hour. So I switched to taking the Green line all the way downtown, then transferring to the Blue line - or, sometimes, just taking the Blue line from Oak Park - then catching a bus at Rosemont, or taking it all the way to O'Hare and catching a bus there. Also a pain in the butt, and it took so long. A crosstown connector line would have been an improvement, but still a bit of a pain - three trains and a bus. And I hated that job.

theres nothing out by cicero. western ave would be a better choice for this imo.

This is a really great idea. I feel light rail would be a better fit on this corridor.

Building this line would spur some development along the corridor, but also consider that this line would pass near the heavily populated Austin neighborhood so ridership may not be a large issue. I would also imagine some travelers would use this line to go between O'Hare and Midway airports.

You would want this to connect a second time to the blue line for a more direct connection to O'Hare, western Chicagoans would not have to go all the way downtown just to go back northwest and you would not have to use that secluded Metra stop (Metra North Central Line terminating at Antioch), on the east side of the parking garage at the airport train endstation to get into the various terminals, although you still could if you wanted a faster approach to the international terminal.

Well you do remember back about in the 2000s there was the x54 bus. I remember using that x54 bus. Unfortunately it got hacked in the February 2010 cuts. I think people did use it. It wasn't the busiest bus in the world but I know a lot of people did use it. I used to ride the x54 just to go out and have a nice bus ride. And I did write it from Jefferson Park down to Midway airport.

I agree that the rail corridor east of Cicero is the logical north-south route. But a great cross-town rapid transit line would not only connect Jefferson Park to Midway. It would also connect Midway to South Works, running east-west along 83rd or 87th or 95th street (or parallel rail corridors). It would connect to the Red Line and several Metra lines, ending with a connection to the Metra Electric South Chicago branch. Envisioning it this way, and starting on the Far South Side, would build a much broader political coalition to get this done.

A Cicero Ave. rapid transit line should access the rights of way of the Kenton Sub and the Cragin Industrial Lead. The initial operating segment should run from Jefferson Park to the north to Midway Airport to the south. Later, a southern extension should be built to Ford City, and continuing on to either the Oak Lawn Southwest Service station at 95th St. and 52nd Av. or a new Southwest Service station at Cicero Av. (approx. 93rd Pl.) Whenever possible, CTA rapid transit lines should locate their outer termini at or very near a Metra station, with that Metra line serving as a collector and disbursal point, increasing travel options.

I have been advocating in YT comments for a Cicero line for awhile and love the thought, but I'd turn it into an Outer Loop - North, I'd turn to follow Lawrence w/ connection to Kimball 🟤 Ravenswood Metra, and Lawrence 🔴. South, I'd bring it across 95th w/ multiple Metra connections & 95th 🔴 ending at S Chi 93rd Metra (there's also a RR ROW along 95th E of Dan Ryan). Lawrence would connect N Shore to ORD via Montrose 🔵 and alleviate heavy traffic on Lawrence. 95th would provide E/W ties to 95th 🔴 and connect S Shore to MDW.

I had this same idea when theorising good new lines! Im so glad more people agree with me, theres already a right of way there!

You said that a full subway along Cicero might not be feasible and the feds would push for light rail or worse bus rapid transit; so if I were the CTA I would push for a light metro like Vancouver's Skytrain with an eye towards converting the rest of the system to driverless automatic. I would also like to extend the Skokie Line up to the Wisconsin state line along the old interurban right of way, and maybe convert it to regional rail.

The silver line would use four door cars with 60’ car length.

Western Ave is a heavily used transit corridor, so I would personally choose that over Cicero. Maybe Pulaski Rd. But Cicero Ave might be too far west to get the ridership needed for the funding to get approved. But, this is just my two cents.

It would be nice to have Skokie Swift Service Rush Hour service to the Loop and back Mondays-Fridays!

If you look at the map of the Chicago L, you will see that several lines run along Ashland Avenue (or more precisely, Paulina Avenue, which is one block west). The Brown Line, the original route of the Logan Square L (when it was a branch of the Garfield Park line), and of course the Pink Line all run along Paulina Avenue. Might there have been unfinished plans for a crosstown L along that route? It's too close to downtown for that purpose today, but I like the Belt Railway of Chicago route near Cicero Avenue.

full elevated

They can do a light rail line. It is cheaper than a subway line. They should see a feasibility study.

Cicero is too tight a road and too far west. Western Ave is a better choice. Also it doesn't need to be a full heavy metro compatible with the L. Light rail would work well with the likely passenger load. Use grade separation sparingly to jump over major intersections, crossing barriers for the rest. Operating speeds of ~45 mph are possible with adequate protection. Irving Park Road could host a similar build. The Belt Railway is in heavy use by freight trains. Take it over for a moderate demand transit line and that's a lot of new trucks on the road for not that many cars off the road. It is a wide corridor and could accommodate a transit line with a careful design, but the major railroad users are very uncooperative. Just because it's "already there" doesn't mean it's worth the bother to build out.

Elevated in Chicago is beautiful. It would be a great idea if it started at O’hare and ended at Midway. That crosstown service would be beneficial for so many and save a lot of time.

I love your ideas! Although, I'll admit, create a map at 3:41 and later because when you started naming streets, I got lost most of the time and started daydreaming of a circle line and Chicago hot dogs!

Bet it had an interurban on it once

If I-494 had been built, this line would probably already exist.

Western Avenue is the best corridor because it is parallel to Railroad Right of Way and within close proximity to destinations

vote is for Ashland

Chat Sports Music lol

Radial lines heavely depend on riders, no natural public. Little nearer to town include all lines but a car driven traffic will never change very fast !😊

This idea was thought of back in the 1970's but never materialized

Or there's the old Circle Line...

What about Mt Greenwood, Oak Park, and Evergreen Park?

Would be like 294

This will never happen btw

Essentially you want another Lake St style L lmao

Back in the 50s and early 60s the then Mayor Daily wanted all trains and expressways go into the city center. Thus they do. So this is really old news and the reason it does not exist is Mayor Daily.

Why the John Cena music?

CTA has a bunch of complaints about safety so building a new train line in some of Chicago’s most infamously dangerous neighborhoods wouldn’t be smart.

I vote for Western.

This sounds like ideas that would be on the STAR Line Chicago website. But there's no money to build it, and no demand. Ridership is going down as fewer people have to go to offices to do work. Bigger employers are fleeing the Loop as crime soars. Commuter lots such as in Riverdale are emptier than before Covid. Nor is the current commuter scheduling system workable as a public transit system. You have to have frequent trains (15-20 minutes apart) to get people out of their cars. It does no good to have hourly trains between rush hours (if even that); the wait time messes up people's entire days as they try making connections between trains, let alone trains and buses. Trusting the transit agencies with more taxpayer money is already a nightmare; I live near Metra's latest debacle of a warehouse in Harvey, where it's become a bottomless expensive pit of a project that now seems unneeded, and in true Illinois fashion, possibly payola to a Metra contractor while mysteriously nobody knows (or will admit) why Metra even bought the seriously dilapidated building in the first place. CTA blew through decades of tax money and funding sometimes with few positive outcomes. RTA can't even get the agencies on a single fare card system despite allegedly being an "Authority". It's "hub and spoke" commuter service, and downtown Chicago was always the hub. Cross-city transit was never really considered despite some lip service about it, is there even one through train that can take someone all the way across the city?

Far too west. Building along Western serves a much larger population. The Circle Line proposal numbers were already pushing the cost/benefit ratio.

The lines that are currently running on Chicago are fine we don't need other ones