Yeah for the Android guys I mean, this is huge! In fact it has made me think about revisiting Android and doing a couple of videos because even though the couple of livestreams I did with Android were disastrous because of the latency issue, they get quite a few views. There’s a market there for sure. But for iOS users with our 20 billion AUV3’s…. It’s a bit pants. The sounds though dude - the DX7 sounds in particular are so good - and I’ve got a TX7 here. Takes me back - I feel 15 again!!!! 😂

I’m seeing a lot of comments like this today Colin. It’s a shame. Cubasis 3, once Steinberg got it stable, was such a great step forward for mobile music making. But it hasn’t moved forward for too long. I’m sure Steinberg have heard us on this now so it will be interesting to see what happens. ✌️

I’ve never liked the multiple take approach so it’s not something that has ever really bothered me be but I’m very aware of peoples complaints about this and I do agree that it’s something they ought to develop. For me though, I find I get a far better end result doing a take at a time - it’s just how I work - I’m always pushing myself to be able to execute the performance without comping, timing, tuning. It’s important to me. ✌️

They really do - the stock sounds in Cubasis aren’t really all that but my god these are good.

Cubasis 3 is great on a phone! You know, back when I was on an iPhone 8 it handled Cubasis 3 better than my iPad did at the time. Sadly it only had a small memory but it was super useful for starting projects. I keep meaning to use the phone more ins my demos because I think people like to see it and Cubasis 3 runs amazingly well on this iPhone 14 Plus. Mental when you think about it.

@@JamieMallender just remembering that 4GBs of RAM was top-end in 2004 is also mind-blowing. And you needed a lift to carry 5MB in the 50’s 🤣

@@3rdPersonProductions amazing isn’t it! I bought a 2TB external drive recently for less than the price of a tank of petrol and it’s so small I’m scared of losing it. 😂

@@JamieMallender Yes! We want back the clunky machines we used to complain about needing! 🤪

@@3rdPersonProductions 😂😂😂😂

I totally get that dude. I’ve found recently I’ve been revisiting a lot of old projects. Things keep coming to mind that were promising but didn’t get finished. Maybe something I did to demo an app that could’ve become a track.

Yeah me too, I’m really enjoying those sounds. Thank you so much for watching and taking time to comment. Have an awesome day! ✌️

This is something I wonder about often. I use Cubase 13 Pro on the desktop but do a lot more production on the iPad. I would love to see full Cubase on the iPad. My M1 beats the crap out of my desktop - and my desktop is better than machines a lot of people use for music production. But I think there are 2 concerns. The first is purely about real estate. How would Cubase be redesigned to fit all of that information and all those deep dive menus on an iPad sized screen? And, the price. In my opinion, iOS music is held back because the big names don’t port the well known big production apps over from desktop because they don’t think it is worth it financially. This is because on iOS there is a culture of cheap and cheerful apps and when something amazing comes along that costs a little more there is outrage. iOS musicians would expect it to be cheaper than on desktop and then freak out every time a new version comes out and you have to pay to upgrade. In time of course, this will all change but it will take time and this is why I don’t think we’ll see Cubase just yet. I don’t have any insider knowledge about that though - it’s just my thoughts - and I have been known to be wrong.

@@JamieMallender Steinberg always seems to find an innovative way to do things and when I look at what Apple did with Logic Pro on iPad my ideas just flow. Like I know Steinberg’s version of a professional mobile DAW would be insane. I also compare what Blackmagic Design did with Divinci Resolve OMG !! Never thought possible with such a large interface from desktop to iPad would this even work. They’ve even just released dedicated controller for color grading on your iPad. I feel like this is a huge miss for Steinberg if they don’t get pass the Cubasis years. I love Cubasis personally use it all the time but it just leaves so much more to be desired.

I’m also having trouble installing it, it keeps popping up with the same message as yours. Hopefully it’s just because everyone is trying to download it at the moment.

I eventually managed it, after 20 attempts. Strangely, this was on my newer iPad which is an M2. My older one did it first time.

Glad you finally got it sorted Mick. A few people have posted about this problem. Not sure what’s going on but they all seem to be getting there eventually. I really don’t know what it could be.

Thank you. That’s a massive compliment coming from you. Hope you’re super well and smashing. I haven’t seen your Cubasis 3 video yet, I’m going to watch it later while I’m doing my chores. 💜💜💜💜

I’m glad you mentioned that - it was just a little improvisation. I had to make this video in no time at all so really relied heavily on jamming things out quickly. But that little melody is stuck in my head. That’ll have to become something.

@@JamieMallender I'll give you 6 months - if it's not released, I'm stealing it! So I'm changing my opinion on the update, thank you so much Steinberg for releasing the update, it was worth it to force Jamie create this melody!!!!

My pleasure David! Hope you’re ok my friend. 💜

Spam away sunshine - you’re my favourite spammer! 😂😂

Thank you for watching my friend! Yeah that makes sense actually - I thought it was brave of Steinberg to go for authenticity over the show me the money approach. ✌️✌️

I guess some people never recorded in a proper studio or to actual tape. I think with piano rolls, you get used to one so a new one is a bit frustrating just because it is different. Yes, the chord pads are ace! ✌️✌️

@JamieMallender I didn't learn how to properly play drums or piano so everything that isn't guitar or singing is heavily edited in piano roll. But that's what it is. Either record just guitar or try to have full production with drums and everything. At least drums. I've been using FL Studio since it was barely more than drum machine. Now I am experimenting with Cubasis. It doesn't seem to record multiple tracks when on loop but that's not an issue to me. Also doesn't seem to be able to multiply midi by dragging. It kinda has vintage look and isn't very visual. I messed with it for two days. Hopefully something good come out of it. 🙂❤️🍀

@aspirativemusicproduction2135 Steinberg have always keep their software plain looking. They don’t provide those kind of tools that throw loops and samples and midi parts and ideas at you. They provide a blank page for you to paint on with your own creativity. I like that. Both midi and audio duplicate if you drag the handle on the right hand side of the part. Cubasis 3 isn’t designed to loop record. ✌️✌️

My pleasure! Thank you for watching!

Thank you Mark. There’s some great sounds here :)

Absolutely 100% agreed young man. I do love Cubasis 3 though. The interface really works for me. I do hope they’ve heard us now at Steinberg. But more importantly dude, I hope you’re well and groovy and have a wonderful Christmas x

It’s a good point. I kind of work around it but it’s particularly frustrating when you’re recording slap bass. The input level has to be just right. It can mean a lot of test takes and deleting. ✌️✌️

Well, they’ve definitely heard ups now so I feel that the next update will make or break the future of the app and will certainly be a deciding factor for me about the future 🙂

@@JamieMallender Yes we will have to see. I did buy these cool new synths though, because they sound phenomenal and for now I am still mostly a Cubasis boy hahah 👍👍 It has treated me well with most of my productions. But there already have been songs that i produced for which i was forced to record it in Garageband for Mac, simply for the fact that it supports tempo changes. And there are more tracks that i need to record with tempo tracks, so again i won’t produce those in Cubasis and will have to most likely do them in Logic Pro. Steinberg is really starting to push users away to other DAWs by not implementing basic features that people really need.

@@EdBMetal this is definitely the case and at the risk of upsetting them, which I really did not want to do as I am a huge fan and do have a bit of a relationship with them - I decided the correct thing for me to do was to make that clear to them in this video. I may not be particularly well embraced by the iOS community nor a big KZfaqr but if I can use my platform such as it is to achieve that - I’ve at least done something good for the community, and for Steinberg.

@@JamieMallender i completely understand what you mean Jamie. And i also hope we don’t upset them or thst it affects your relationship with them. It is only meant as constructive criticism and practical feedback. People have been requesring rgis for so long, even MobileMusicPro which is a big supported of Cubasis. But our requests seem to have been not heard, or maybe even ignored. But I really hope they do something with this input because i would hate being pushed away since i love using Cubasis. But i keep running constantly into the same frustrations as my fast collection of AUv3’s keeps growing. It become such a pain to scroll through this crazy long list just to find a plugin. It really ruins a smooth workflow and the user experience.

I really wish I had an Atari ST with the original Cubase on sometimes… it would make a great nostalgia video! Thank you for watching and taking time to comment young man. ✌️

@@JamieMallender I still have än Atari ste with steinberg pro 24

@@madvikins that’s so cool man. So many things I wish I’d kept….

Thanks Nino! ✌️✌️

Agreed! Are you using iOS or Android?

@@JamieMallender ios

Although it would be really nice to have those amp sims from Cubase in Cubasis 3, I totally agree, there are many 3rd party plugins available that are as good or superior. Do you use any of those? Like ToneX, Rhino, Tonestack Pro, Nembrini etc..

Gargle Pleb! 😂😂😂😂 I love it!

One hundred percent agree with Jamie on this update. The Lo-Fi Piano is nice and Hainbach, this will be my goto piano. However as Jamie says, Steinberg failed to add the features that users were really asking for. Sigh. So sorry Stineberg, nice, but no cigar.

I used to think that, but I have an M1 Pro now and the device has way more power than any software can actually make use of. I used to find the small screen size an issue but I don’t even notice it now because I’ve used it so much. I was thinking of doing a video with one of the Android devices I have lying around doing nothing here, just to show how good a production you can do with these new sounds.

​@@JamieMallender I still think that way with the Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+ *and* an iPad Pro M4. Too limiting, non-tactile, and claustrophobic. It's like painting the walls through a mail slot after using 43 in monitors. Even the smaller screens on the MPC doesn't give that feeling. Great for when you don't have anything other than a controller. We're not all the same.

Very nicely said my friend. I 100% agree with every word you said. ✌️✌️

You certainly can. The only thing it doesn’t have that causes me a problem, is tempo track. ✌️✌️

@JamieMallender I am trying to figure out what work flow is best for Cubasis. Coming from FL Studio the piano roll and automation seem to be the main issues to adjust to. In FL seem to be easier. And on android it has limitations which people on Apple don't seem to have.

@@aspirativemusicproduction2135 yes it’s a shame that Android is so limited for music production. Great consumer devices, but not great for creative people.

@JamieMallender I used to do more on Windows with FL and Mixcraft. Sinse sitting became very painful and impossible for me making music in my bed on Samsung is making it possible. I have to go around the limitations of mobile apps for now but limitations make you think more strategically. I've recorded more stuff on my phone than I ever recorded on my computer. As long as I have one finger working I can do something 🙂🙂🙂

Enjoy the wading my friend, there are many gems to be found. 🙂

That method doesn’t work for me but I know lots of people want that feature so they should add it, it’s a no-brainier really. ✌️✌️

I remember getting it for the C64 and being so excited - but it never played as nicely as the arcade version. And it was really hard. I seem to remember it played better on the spectrum although, it looked a bit pants. 😂

@@JamieMallender yeah, C64, that was were I played it. Was kinda hard. But lovely memories those are. Seems like AGES... actually is 😂

@hammingus makes me feel ancient 🤪😂😂🤪

Not to mention that if and when eventually Cubasis gets those features, it might also go the subscription route 😅

@@VirtualDarKness I think that would be the kiss of death to be honest. Subs are about as popular as crabs in iOS. I totally get your frustration. It’s hard to understand why Steinberg would make these choices, given the fact that they do welcome feedback

@@JamieMallender tiny follow up: the other reason is that I have a good amount of VST on PC already and just wanted something portable to use from the sofa. But with the laptop (windows) I'm also getting a WIDI bud pro, so I should be able to use iPhone / iPad as a touch MPE controller and sequencer and sounds and DAW features from laptop. Less portable for sure though

Thank you my friend! And thank you for watching. I am a big Cubase user and would love to be able to end my logic for iPad sub and just stick with Cubasis 3. We just need a few things. :)

Just an update Greg forwarded it to the mobile application development team at Steinberg… So your video is getting looked at by their team for actual changes. Fingers crossed. Talk to you later bud. Have a nice day.

@Cap10NRGMusic that’s utterly awesome buddy! Thank you for getting back to me and letting me know and thank you for doing this. Fingers crossed! ✌️🤞🤞✌️

I get it 😂 Since launch, Steinberg have pretty much done a big update twice a year with the occasional supplemental one with fixes. I think they are usually summer and then December. Steinberg do big updates rather than lots of little ones and they Implement these things very well. But this time they left it 10 months which had people worried. ✌️

Good comment

@@JamieMallender Exactly what we thought too! LOL

Yeah like, just internal stuff….. makes a lot of sense…. I could do that!

Quite a few people have said today, why not make these Cubasis IAPs standalone AUV3’s. It’s a good question. I love these new DX sounds - would love to use them in other DAWs

You know what, that’s exactly how ai feel. I WANT it to be the best DAW just like Cubase rules on desktop.

Hi James. Steinberg have an updated version of the importer available. I haven’t used it yet but it is meant to map the new Cubasis instruments to appropriate things in Cubase. Can’t wait to try it. The Halion download is 1.8 GB. Let me know if you have any probs. ✌️✌️

@@JamieMallender 1.8gb is pretty reasonable for the amount of presets I think! Great, will try that soon. Think I'll pick this up on Android shortly for the reason you mentioned in the video!

I think what we always have to remember is that the iOS market is still very small and not particularly profitable. The staff at Steinberg work incredibly hard but they’re only going to pour a limited amount of resources into Cubasis 3 from time to time because of the aforementioned reasons. They may have felt that they were far enough ahead and that they could leave it for a while, but they’ve left it too long. I think they’ve got the message about that now so we’ll have to see where they go next with it. I think it would be awesome if the new instruments were AUV3 and could be used in other DAWs but that then means more apps to maintain when clearly they are having enough difficulty dedicating enough time to what they have. I don’t think they are afraid of it getting too good and too close to Cubase because it’s a very long way off and Steinberg are the originators of the DAW. I’m sure they want to have the best iOS DAW but right now on iOS the software isn’t moving anything like as fast as the technology because it’s a tiny market.

I assume you mean 'beats' not 'bears', unless Yogi is in the house? 😁 I know you were asking Jamie but personally for me, CB3's user interface beats Logic by a long way. CB3 also has midi export and last I checcked Logic didn't. I ran out of memory easily with one midi import in Logic (with no real way to avoid it) while CB3 handled it fine. There were other factors but these came straight to mind and that's not allowing for the single price vs constant subscription aspect and subscription will always lose out for me.

@@Elwaves2925 Thanks , and yes I corrected, lol

@@WyattLite-n-inn Cool.

Thanks for watching my friend! Here’s my list - Cubasis 3 Advantages Over Logic Pro For iPad. 1. Cubasis 3 works on older, less powerful devices, and iPhones and many Android devices and projects can be bounced around between all of those platforms with 100% compatibility - and of course, I can send a project from any of those devices to Cubase on desktop. 2. Cubasis 3, on a more powerful iPad with Multi Core processing engaged handles a large project containing a lot of AUV3’s far better than Logic Pro For iPad does. 3. I suffer random crashes fairly often in LP4iP which I almost never experience in Cubasis 3 now. 4. Cubasis also supports IAA which to a lot of users is a huge bonus. 5. Midi mapping is possible in Cubasis 3 and is nicely implemented. 6. Whilst multi output AUV3s can be mapped to separate busses in LP4iP, it is tedious to implement but in Cubasis 3 you press one button and it’s all done for you. 7. Audio editing I find very slow in LP4iP - like if you have a lot of audio to chop up and introduce micro fades etc, you constantly have to dive the menus - plus the gimmicky trim button slows things down further and having to menu dive for a delete button or mute function. In Cubasis you can do all of this in the normal screen and it’s much quicker. 8. I can record stems from AUM into Cubasis 3 on separate tracks which I can not do in LP4iP. 9. It’s so easy to export midi from Cubasis 3. 10. Cubasis 3 isn’t a subscription model. I own it. I’ve already spent more on my logic subscription than it cost me to buy Cubasis 3 and updates are slow. Disappointingly slow. All of this said, I think that LP4iP has many advantages over Cubasis 3 but I think in the excitement of the new DAW and its deeper menu diving features, many iOS users have cast Cubasis 3 aside, and it does do a number of things better than logic.

The missed note is something that happens with certain AUV3’s but not others so is not a Cubasis problem, it’s about that particular Audio Unit. The limiting kind of sound you are experiencing is purely because you’re not using an interface - it’s an iOS thing, not a Cubasis thing. I used to spend a lot of time trying to tweak my midi to make it sound more human - I’ve done this in many DAWs over the years. Humanisation isn’t a feature DAWs tend to have strangely. It can be done in Cubase but it isn’t obvious. But I found ultimately that the quickest way is just to play it in - capture the human performance and then if it isn’t accurate enough, drag it into time but not perfectly :) ✌️

I feel quite at home with the Cubasis piano roll now but I do still make slip ups. Occasionally shooting 3000 bars to the left 😂 I think you’re right - more gesture development would be nice. But yes, I love the interface. To me it’s just what a DAW should be. ✌️✌️

Kind of yes, and with a lot more presets covering very similar sounds. The difference with FM classics is that the presets are the original sounds from the DX7 and rom cards sounding the way they would have at the time if unaltered. That’s awesome to me but wouldn’t fascinate everyone. ✌️✌️

Hi Carl. If I had to choose….. FM Classics is my personal fave but the Halion Sonic Selection represents incredible value and to most people is possibly the most useful. If I can help you with your journey at any point just get in touch - I’ll do my best. ✌️✌️

@@JamieMallender Thank you for your reply, your comment coupled with my gut feelings agree. FM it is. Can alway add others as I move on down the road.

This is one of the big advantages with Cubasis 3 - it works on my ancient iPad, one that’s 6 years old, my old iPhones, my new one, the M1, the Android phones I keep for testing stuff on…. And yeah, no sub… ewwww… just did a small sick in my mouth 😂😂😂😂

Midi track or audio track?

@@JamieMallender hi! 👋 midi tracks On iPhone 14. Thanks 🙏

@@dereksoto5390 if the midi appears to be recording but then disappears after you hit stop then strictly this means that no midi is being received. Are you trying to record an app that you are playing with a controller? If not, what are you trying to record?

No update available in the play store?

It would be a bit of a monumental task though I would imagine, fitting all of that functionality on an iPad screen. I need 2 pc monitors for it as it is. Plus, the iOS community is not used to paying much for software. And it’s a fairly small user base and only the more powerful iPads would be able to take it…. I dunno…. I suppose it would all have to be redesigned for smaller screens. I would love it though if purchasing it on desktop meant you could use it on iPad for no extra charge - that’s what I would like to see across all software

I don’t think Steinberg really view that as a bug because it’s not really designed to do multi take feature as such. I know what you mean though. So many people have flagged that up they ought to fix it so you can use it properly ✌️

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!!

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When you say scale lock, do you mean like different scale options so you can set up the keyboard so you can only play that key? I don’t use anything like that myself but I understand the need. I suppose as you can’t use external software on Android you really need that built in. Good point, I’ll put that forward. Totally with you on the Sampler/drum machine. It’s way past time that they ought to have implemented this.

@@JamieMallender yes exactly and a tuner for samples and sounds so I can match the key fl studio mobile not look so eye pleasing or sound as good as cubasis but it's packed with features that makes music making easier on Android devices and less expensive too even zenbeats mobile a little more sound design friendly I just don't like roland penny pitching pocket for sounds for zc1 player mabe next update they will focus on more sound design and editing and helper tools in app especially for Android users

@@perceptionzzz I think that’s fair. There’s no point Steinberg making a DAW and making it Available on Android if they don’t add things to it to compensate for Androids limitations. You can’t just buy plugins so whilst the app works just as well as the iOS version, you can’t do a lot with it. If they added a few things like that it would rule on Android.

What do you mean my friend?

They are. I agree but I don’t think Cubasis would ever have a clip launcher. Cubase has never been that kind of DAW. Although who’s to say, it might be an idea to approach the iOS version that was as clip launching with a touch screen is pretty cool…. I do like them black keys though!!!! 😂😂😂😂 not that it makes my piano playing any better. ✌️🙂

😂😂😂😂😂.Bruh.You sure you use cubasis?Because cubasis covers whatever you say here with ease....

I’m afraid our friend here is right in everything he says. Cubasis has no clip launcher like Ableton or Logic or LK, there is no duplicate function like the one in Logic which is brilliantly implemented, you can’t assign a group of faders to move as one as Cubase has done for years, and you can’t assign a group of tracks to a collapsable folder like Logic or Cubase does.

@@JamieMallender so what?It is still the best mobile daw out there.No kiding.I have almost 10 daws in smartphone

@@user-vp9ub1fm8y it’s my favourite and in some ways it is the best. In other ways Logic Pro for iPad is better and has all the features we’ve been asking for in Cubasis for several years now. That’s kind of the point of the discussion. But our friend here pointed out some of the shortcomings and you replied with laughing emojis as though they are an idiot. You said that person was wrong about everything but in truth, they were right about everything.

Sorry 😂😁✌️👍

@@JamieMallenderlol