If that disqualifies then I guess no record holder would ever upload their videos online in fear of such controversy.

if it is canceled then he will just get a sub .7 next

"a bit lower in TPS, with only 13"

New idea for 2x2 event. No inspection allowed, and the event is reborn.

7:37 if his timer starts are this consistently "bad" throughout the average, it's likely that the 0.92 average also had similar timer starts.

There's an additional precedent with sliding timer starts specifically; Ellery Dillon did the same thing in 2022 on a 0.53 single and 1.5 official average. If you frame counted the solves, they were all around 0.2 slower, and it was clear from looking at the video that he was using sliding starts. When I emailed WRC about this, they reached the same conclusion; if it can't be caught in real time, it would stand. This problem has always existed, and this WR is finally making everyone aware of it.

Man Yiheng just can’t get a win 😭

Not being able to use frame-by-frame analysis for an event that is completed in under one second is absolutely ludicrous

excellent video! I think this is the most comprehensive thing I have seen online so far discussing Yiheng's timer starts

Such an amazing video, putting all of the controversy and confusion into one place, you're the goat

1:57 I didn't even know about that!!!

I really appreciate you taking a look at this and talking about it cube master!

Zayn has plot armor

in 2x2 do they know the full solution during inspection? considering how fast the solves are I can't imagine they can react to the new cube positions

isn’t there display lag though? anyway i think this is a similar situation with what happened with yusheng du, world record drops a lot by someone unexpected, then everyone starts saying that the wr has to be fake or something was illegal imo if zayn got this record the controversy would be much smaller

Just curious whether people use the same methodology to analyze other people's solves (e.g. Zayn's, Nigel's) , and what are the results?

then why tf my 6 second skewb average still up where i chopped the timer on every solve

How about WIDENING the buttons on the timer. Yes I know this will restart the world records again but if that can eliminate questionable stop timer issues with hand contact with the cube while pressing the timer at the same time then that's one suggestion that might solve that. Plus having the timer so wide that a new "sweeping" technique would be implemented to start the timer while having to reach for the cube and make a clear distinction that you haven't touched the cube at the same time as the timer should help clear up this issue. But that's just my perspective.

in the fourth solve, there is a seven mover, by cancelling into an LEG-1 when making the orange side

Amazing video!

LESS GO ANOTHER CUBE MASTER VID

I was at the zayn competition I was mid solve and dropped the cube from the commotion great first competition tho I got to meet zay n he was nice

STOP THE CONTROVERSY JUST LET HIM TAKE THE WIN

2 by 2 has been crazy the past couple months. Also in the solve where the cube seems to move after the solve, is the cube touching the timer? Is that not a plus 2?

I'm new to this competition.... is there a minimum number of spins for the world record?

you should do a video about the mirror sq1 and sq0

Brilliant and informative video, especially on the Russian NR as an example to prove yiheng’s WR would probably stand. Interesting fact, if we framecount Zayn’s 0.92 and yiheng’s 0.78 avg, zayn actually has a faster avg than yiheng

I love how casually you say 19 tps 💀

Can't wait till Yiheng gets back to concentrating on 3x3, revealing his 20 tps and ZBLL skills 🙃🙂 👍

Is it possible that there’s a little delay from timer to the big display? If so the frame-to-frame video analysis is not very precise.

how do you set your timer for live?

The outro music starts playing

Did anyone notice the 7 mover on solve 4😮

Look how much time consuming it is to stop the timer. Yiheng solves the whole cube in 0.58 seconds but after he stops the timer it was 0 78 😮

If this gets disqualified then so many other records will have to be disqualified for illegal timer stops and starts so i think this video is nitpicking the sovles frame by frame and going too in depth. At full speed Yihengs solves are fine. So this wr average shouldn't get disqualified in my opinion!

Lets go my video was used in a cube master vid!!!! (Im fine with it btw)

We could be frame by from, f**k that we could go…

So for the timer start problem, you kind of need to go back a couple of frames to see the actual timer start, since the thing is that the display of the timer has an around .2 lag, so when HIS timer starts, the display only starts after .2 seconds. And the only reason this is suspicious is because of the perspective the spectators are videoing, which does not allow for a good view of the hands on the timer. This issue is because that, frankly speaking, the wca people just don't want chinese cubers dominating stuff like 2x2. If timer starts and stops will be framecounted and scrutinized, just use framecounting for timing. even though his timer starts are not AS good, they are still allowed by the wca. If the wca DQs this world record, imagine the uproar it will cause... Edit: now chinese cubers will just use 144p vids for evidence that they got the record... so sad...

We can go frame by frame fuck that we go n for n 😂

Insane!

My idea is the frame by frame scrutiny should apply only for WR/CR/NR type solves. Basically the solves that matter the most. That way we make judicious use of delegate's time and aren't wasting it on any random 8 second solve

Bruh just let him have his time he's clearly solving it in that time there's no need to "technically 🤓" the situation

5:42 We can go Turn by Turn F that, we can go Frame by Frame🎤

The only way I could win a cube competition is if it was for the longest time to solve a cube! 🤣

wow i cant belive the record was just beat

3:26 is quite egregious, not only is he touching the cube before the timer starts he actually gets more than one full move before the timer starts. It looks like his wrists are still on the timer while he's grabbing the cube hence why the timer doesn't start. I get not doing frame by frame analysis but there's gotta be a line drawn for this.

I kinda hope this happens so that 2x2 can continue being an event

whyh are alll of his averags in 2x2 a contrvoersy lmao

7:52 is this actually happening?? 2x2 will be removed?

I know they can’t really do it for reasons: Takes longer, Hardware needed, Makes future competition results incompatible with previous ones. but they should just film at 1000fps, and time starts from when you touch it, to when you’re not touching it.

if this record counts i wouldnt be surprised to see many people recreating these starts

Yoo nice vid

Why only 2x2? 😂😅

I swear bro is insane I mean 19 tps that's crazy

the thing is a rule is a rule you can't change a rule for annything exept if it is generalised that it is legal so i think it should be canceld even tho it is still crayze fas

Are they really taking off 2x2 from the WCA next year??? I couldn’t find anything about it onlinr

Its sometimes sad how so many people get so controversial

Mom look I'm on TV

Not every solve is filmed, so you can't use film to void a record.

Do you want to collaborate😊

I’ll Come Back Tomorrow To See Did Yiheng Crush The Wr Or Zayn Can Take The Biggest Sigh of Relief 😮‍💨

If records shouldn't be analyzed frame by frame, then this 100% counts.

1 example could be those who just want to solve the cube but dont want to get better

4th solve with negative time start should be an obvious +2

7:36 😅😅😅

Hmm… what about introducing a “minimum distance” that the cube has to be placed away from the Stackmat timer? What if people adapt and do forearm sliding timer starts? 🤣 But also, if the cube has to be so far away… how does this affect previous solves in history?

atp im everywhere 💀istg i look so stupid

Hey mate, not sure if you'll see this but I'd love to watch this on my stream on Wednesday night, would. that be OK with you? Please let me know! 🙏

A year ago, the world record for average time was 1.01 and it was crazy. How is speedcubing growing so fast?

Record or not, it’s still fast AF 🤣

Are his parents forcing him to cube?

Bro they disqualify every Yiheng WR just for him to break it again 2 weeks later.

0.78???????

7:52 Wait what?!

Bye 2x2!

If the 0.78 get disqualified Yiheng is going to be world record holder to, because he got a 0.92 in the second round of the comp, so it’s going to be tied with Zayn

lol some parts of this video are speedup to make the video creator look like as he could do it as fast as the kid lol

I don’t understand why something shouldn’t be overturned with slow mo. Slow motion shows us what actually happened, as opposed to the limitations of the naked eye. That’s why they use it in the mlb all the time

Last time an event got so fast that it was virtually impossible to judge without slow-motion, the WCA removed the event. That obviously shouldn't happen here because of how big a staple 2x2 is, but that does mean there's now no reason Magic can't come back.

I'm not that worried about Yiheng's record and the controversy. He obviously has the skill for another 2x2 WR, and as long as the regulations about timer start and ends are made clearer in the future and Yiheng doesn't do anything funny when the rules are clear, he's still the best in my opinion (so far).

So they made rules back then, people acepted it and moved yet now that yiheng's solve can be backed up by that same rule people are completely ignoring it or saying it shouldn't count as a rule. Isnt this the exact definition of bipolar? Having two faces, they respected one person yet disrespected another when both were under the same circumstances. Yiheng's solve counts and it counts, its stated by the rules of WCA themselves, blame it on WCA if you want but you cant change his record out of nowhere, change the rule if you must but its too late already, yiheng's record stands

All I’m saying is replay review

The frame by frame stuff is stupid because there is a small delay between the timer starting and it showing up on the display thing. If you look at most solves, it looks like the timers on the display thing seem to start and end about .1 seconds after the solver starts and stops the timer.

its very clear that most people in these comments care more about yiheng getting a record than the actual integrity of that record. implement 4pad at this point because more and more people are gonna start using these illegal stops and starts in sprint events, and tbh the wca shouldnt be about who can start/stop the timer the fastest, and at least 4pad standardizes timer starts to some extent

*Wooooooo! I've always maintained that Wang's one of the biggest cheaters in cubing history. It's sad because he's really good. If you look at the very beginning of the video, set the video on the slowest setting, and watch as his hands are sliding, keeping the clock from starting just yet. Look at the main clock and it hasn't even started until after he has already picked up the cube!!??* *I read body language, and I'm telling you, he's the biggest cheater in Rubik's cubing history. Wang's always, always looking for a way to cut corners. His Parents or teams have probably taught him from birth how to cheat.*

Chill I just found out Yiheng broke the record

🛝🛝🛝🛝

The timer starts are literally fine. Going frame-by-frame and saying it "should" be this or that when going backwards is not the way to determine anything here

Give this kid a break man

yiheng presents a very good case for why fast cubers shouldn't record their solves

As a Zayn fan and fellow northeastern 2x2 solver, I hope this is disqualified (and I don't to trash talk yiheng or anything), but I highly doubt it's gonna happen, given the fact that he's been using these starts and stops for soooo long now and no one cared until it caused controversy. And two more random thoughts: 1. the person who first brought up the discussion was Ibrahim Khanani, who I believe is Zayn and Hassan's brother. This makes it slightly biased, and again, I am "for Zayn" 2. 2x2 is not over. I refuse to accept that. People can keep trying to beat their own times, and eventually this record will be beaten. (For my fellow 2x2 mains, the removal message, is, simply put, a JOKE)

yay i thought i would never suceed in lie because of this 11 year old

Hes a kid, are we really considering taking away a record we definitely derserves? Yiheng is the goat.

They should just use smart cubes, start and stop when the first move starts and ends when the cube is solved. This milliseconds difference between your hand slapping the "cup stack timer" is just silly. It is no longer about how fast you solve the cube, it's how good are you at slapping the timer.

#JusticeForYiheng. this record is 100% legit.

all timer starts and stops are like this

Shi would be so funny if it god disqualified

Bruh

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