Cucuruz Doan's Island: Why a Gundam Remake is NOT the way (But This Is) | Cucuruz Doan Exploration

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Abhsalonikas

Abhsalonikas

Күн бұрын

MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM CUCURUZ DOAN'S ISLAND is an anime movie directed by Yoshikazu Yasuhiko that adapts the 15th episode of the original Mobile Suit Gundam series which aired more than 40 years ago. The episode's story was super interesting, but it was brutally outshined by the quality of certain parts of its animation. What's really amazing of the movie is that it expands and adapts that specific story element instead of going all the way and remaking the plot.
My name is Absa, and in this video I'll try to explore why I think that the way the Cucuruz Doan's Island movie story was presented is the best way to revisit the original series. A sporadic, in-depth, nonlinear exploration instead of a full-on reboot of the entire show.
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@tomhuynh3867
@tomhuynh3867 Жыл бұрын
The origins manga version need to be completely animated. So far there are 6 OVA covering Char and Sayla’s Arc. The rest would be Amuro’s story from where the original 1979 series started.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
My guess is that they will make changes to the origin manga so that it fits better in the UC timeline. I’m pretty sure that they make changes to the lore, but they tend to adapt each of these stories to make it fit in the main canon. So you can watch Origin and go to Zeta without any contradictions.
@Cagliostro81
@Cagliostro81 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasffrench3639 Having read the entire thing I can say they really don’t need to change much, if anything.
@rockyoh
@rockyoh Жыл бұрын
Unlike US and rest of world, in Japan chief director is hated by those who loves 70, 80s version. So it's very unlikely to be made to full animated series.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
@@rockyoh who?
@rockyoh
@rockyoh Жыл бұрын
@@thomasffrench3639 yasuhiko yoshikazu
@zetarise9376
@zetarise9376 Жыл бұрын
Had friends come to see the movie with me: Roommate who I've had watch most of UC, another who has watched Hathaways Flash, then one who never watched anything. Doan's Island was a good movie for all of us and got to then recommend some for the two to watch more UC stuff!
@MachRacer4
@MachRacer4 Жыл бұрын
Another example I can think of that could justify making more, reimagining’s, of the original series is the Starblazers: Space Battleship Yamato 2199-2202 series where they took the old story, added some new characters and story, and updated the animation, but the over all story remains much as it did in the 1970’s and 1980’s.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that most remakes in general need to remix the story. You can keep most of the characters the same such as Sayla, Amuro, and Fraw Bow, but you can add more stuff to Hayato, Kai, and the Bright Mirai relationship. Maybe take out the guy who Mirai is arranged with and make the conflict between Bright and Sleger. I think it would be fun to play with some of the relationships and character arcs which don’t fundamentally change the story or universe, but the character interactions and development.
@Baddest_of_Men
@Baddest_of_Men Жыл бұрын
If you ask me, I think that there should be a remake of the original, but instead following the events of the manga, since the timeline is different. That, and I'd like to see who Sunrise would cast for every character if they were to replace them. They already got Toshihiko Seki to replace Shuichi Ikeda in some cases, and I think that he does a good job. Not sure what they'd do about the rest, though.
@videojosh20
@videojosh20 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your premise! The animation and character decisions are clearly from another time, so I would love a reimagining of the original in the way that you explain that updates these two aspects specifically. Besides, imagine the Gunpla we would get..
@JTMC93
@JTMC93 Жыл бұрын
Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin manga is a complete reimagining of the original anime. Only the prequel parts for Char were adapted into Anime. Technically the movie version of Cucuruz Doan's Island is the Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin: Cucuruz Doan's Island. It is the same alternative timeline as The Origin not the original UC timeline.
@jovenc4508
@jovenc4508 Жыл бұрын
Even though I've never seen the original version of this movie I still went and watched it in the theater and I was not disappointed.
@renzocater3089
@renzocater3089 Жыл бұрын
This is like "saying you like an updated Gundam without directly saying you like an updated Gundam"
@addiecore
@addiecore Жыл бұрын
I would mind a new adaption of the Ramba Ral Arc, although Gundam 79 covered the material pretty perfectly already. And the Origin OVA already established Ramba's situation with Zeon and relationship with Hamon. Watching the Blue Giant fight was my favorite arc of the series. The Gouf gets all the best pilots and fights.
@comradefreedom8275
@comradefreedom8275 Жыл бұрын
I showed this to my mom and her SO, and they both enjoyed it. It was a very lighthearted and wholesome movie.
@vagabond4576
@vagabond4576 Жыл бұрын
There would be a lot of people new to gundam that would not have a taste for the original unless the animations have been updated. So I would be okay with that too because its a good way to get people into it if they want to start off with the original story.
@Dave_Haro
@Dave_Haro Жыл бұрын
I think a remake, with this new style would be great, keeping the same story but updating and adding some details to make the story richer for new fans to see, we already like gundam but many people have asked me where to start, a remake of the original would be a great starting point
@bonoandlavin
@bonoandlavin Жыл бұрын
This ep in the original series was the one that I love the most and think about the most
@Fate025
@Fate025 Жыл бұрын
never even knew of this movie till I saw this video on my recommended! Definitely going to watch the movie next!
@lllXanderlll
@lllXanderlll Жыл бұрын
Speaking of new series changing things that reminds me of something I heard in regard to 08 MS Group and how it actually retconned the EF to have mass production model Gundams. Which struck me as odd when I was watching the 08 MS series but I didn't realize it was a retcon and tbh it seems like an odd change to make
@rapidemboar4625
@rapidemboar4625 Жыл бұрын
At least the Gundam Ground Types have the justification of being effectively GM Ground Types built from spare Gundam parts. Gundam Thunderbolt's pretty much on another technological level for a story set in the One-Year War. Really, old Gundam is absolutely filled with retcons as spinoffs like 8th MS Team, War in the Pocket, and Stardust Memory keep getting released, and at times referencing designs from other manga, artbooks, and even video games.
@thequestbro
@thequestbro Жыл бұрын
They aren't real Gundam. They are pretty much GMs purpose built to make Zeon shit themselves.
@cliffwoodbury5319
@cliffwoodbury5319 Жыл бұрын
I like transformers but i never dove past the movies, but looking at Gundam, Voltron and Mazinger has me wanting to dive deep into every single one of their universes!!!
@lukedelameter7961
@lukedelameter7961 Жыл бұрын
I’d definitely recommend diving deeper into any of the series. Transformers Prime and Animated are easily one of my favorite shows, period.
@issaknifeprty
@issaknifeprty Жыл бұрын
The thing about remakes is that the original will still remain. I’m all for a remake if it means more people getting into the series. Origin was a good start.
@cpt191021
@cpt191021 Жыл бұрын
i dint know even know this existed so excited to see. man i have so much gundam to watch i took a 5 year break expecting maybe 2-3 season of stuff, come back and its like the gundam library is twice as big lol
@BLAZE084
@BLAZE084 Жыл бұрын
6:00 Stardust Memory [UC0083] takes place before Zeta [UC0087]... I don't see how you can call it filler when it's telling an original story while acting as a sort of prequel to Zeta kind of like the Gundam The Origin OVAs. From that perspective The Origin OVA 1-5 [Char's backstory] should also be considered filler.
@JTMC93
@JTMC93 Жыл бұрын
because it is filling in the timeline.
@BLAZE084
@BLAZE084 Жыл бұрын
@@JTMC93 The way he phrases it makes it sound like these other series in the timeline are just flat and uninteresting. Why label these as filler whilst praising this one like it isn't exactly that: more filler. It's rather contradictory and conveys a confusing message in regards to previous shows in the UC timeline.
@SupremeKingToshiro
@SupremeKingToshiro Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly down for both
@DaiSenshiMounir
@DaiSenshiMounir Жыл бұрын
I loved the movie. I watched a blu ray rip some months back and unfortunately caught covid right before the theatrical release stateside, perhaps i might be able to catch a showing this weekend... The comedy aspect was one thing i didnt expect but it worked. Sleggar's return was welcomed as well as that beautiful Sleggar's GM kit ALSO by the end of the movie i realized that this was supposed to be Toru Furuya's last performance as Amuro and was genuinely impressed at how youthful he sounded. Not once did i think about the age of the voice actor because i wasnt 100% sure it was him til that fact popped back into my head
@badaisembuang1489
@badaisembuang1489 Жыл бұрын
is that true that this one is the last of toru furuyas voice as amuro ,, sad to hear that thought
@DaiSenshiMounir
@DaiSenshiMounir Жыл бұрын
@@badaisembuang1489 "may be the last time I voice a 15-year-old Amuro in a film." is the quote and i ran with speculation for a while so i could be wrong, only time will tell.
@badaisembuang1489
@badaisembuang1489 Жыл бұрын
@@DaiSenshiMounir Lets Hope so , amuro also say in the previous comment ( before cucuruz Doan ) that “ this Will be the last time he become amuro voices in younger version” ,,,, Lets Hope he never quit become Voice actor of amuro , because his Voice is legit and legend
@affanmahdhir1793
@affanmahdhir1793 Жыл бұрын
I want a CCA remake, dont change anything except the animation so i can see Nu and the ReGZ fights in glorious animation
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
Adapt Beltorchika's children instead...But keep the Sazabi, the Nightingale is an overengineered mess.
@kinjapleb4228
@kinjapleb4228 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, kinda didn't like CCA as much as people hype it up. The fights are killer but honestly there needed to be a better bridge between ZZ and CCA, it honestly felt like it came out of nowhere and I didn't like the focus on the new characters. Honestly the only CCA remake that would happen is if the whole UC gets rebooted, and in that case I def think the creators would keep the same amazing ending but I have a feeling the protags of the older series might show up again and have a bigger part in the story
@arx3516
@arx3516 Жыл бұрын
I'd like a retelling of the One Year War from the Super Robot Wars 30 timeline, where the Earth Federation had to face Zeon, an alien invasion and dr. Hell's conquest all at the same time.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
I actually kinda agree with this. I’m not opposed to a full on remake as I think the original is a fantastic anime, but has some flaws that can be improved and even mix up some character dynamics to make it more interesting. It can bring 0079 to a new generation, and I kinda like when remakes do that. However, this can be great in order to expand on stuff, but not have a replacement for the original series, and it can be really cool to see a modern reimagining of iconic storylines in modern era, while also incentivizing people to watch the original show.
@loganswalk8621
@loganswalk8621 Жыл бұрын
I know people are spilt on remakes but in my opinion if any series would benefit from a remake it would the early U.C specifically the original,Zeta and ZZ they started in 1979 and ended in 1987. All I'm really asking is a modern retelling of those series with some streamlining as it would be a great way to introduce a new generation to the universal century.
@kennyfox7055
@kennyfox7055 Жыл бұрын
I think remastering the animation of the original gundam series would be a great idea since the it's reaching its 40 anniversary
@cpt191021
@cpt191021 Жыл бұрын
so much of it is perfect it cant be remade any better. agree
@Jojo_Bee
@Jojo_Bee Жыл бұрын
Pause at 0:45. That distorted look of Gundam RX-78-2 is why I want a remake of the original series. I'd really like to see him rendered properly as show in 1:13 instead. This isn't about there's "nothing new" to the original story to remake. Of course, we don't want to mess that up. But this is to better immerse myself to the real robot that Gundam is. I find the current rendering style, so much better and Grampa Gundam DESERVES more of it. The story telling can be made more grim. Presence of blood, gore, dark lights, shadows, more detailed grime and debris, eyes of characters that show more fear (example for that is Thunderbolt). My 2 cents.
@porkflaps4717
@porkflaps4717 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. So far Gundam has been in good hands, and a remake of 0079 should NEVER HAPPEN. Tell other stories, can be from other perspectives.. there's plenty going on that could pop in and out of the OYW that we've seen where certain scenes can be remade without remaking the entire thing. Plus, 0079 is a masterpiece why mess with it? It set the gold standard for every single Gundam series that has been made. Good luck topping that, unless its an exact copy just updated animation. I don't see the upside.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
Eh a remake is better than yet another side story in the 0080s again. We already have a thousand side stories with the one year war and the wars with Neo Zeon. I mean what would be best is a post-Zeon story in the 0100s, but a remake would be second best. We don’t need a remake by the way, because the original is great
@torokun
@torokun Жыл бұрын
I watched it here in Korea on the opening day. Although I agree with your overall sentiment, I walked away thinking why was this necessary to make into a feature? The whole thing felt like overblown Netflix episode rather than something worth watching on a big screen.
@bigoz169
@bigoz169 11 ай бұрын
Remaking Space Battleship Yamato AKA Star Blazers extremely successful I don't understand after the big success of "The Origin" and now Cucuruz I don't understand why the hesitation on remaking the series and continuing where Origin left off.
@solitaregames
@solitaregames Жыл бұрын
I wonder how they manage to voice Bright Noa? Did they re used old voice files or got a new voice actor?
@Saddawg-cz7yw
@Saddawg-cz7yw Жыл бұрын
Ken Narita has been the new VA for Bright since Unicorn. Pretty sure he's recasted here also.
@solitaregames
@solitaregames Жыл бұрын
@@Saddawg-cz7yw I am surprised Bright it still alive in unicorn. Isnt that like, many many years after One year war? I havent seen Gundam unicorn.
@Saddawg-cz7yw
@Saddawg-cz7yw Жыл бұрын
@@solitaregames Unicorn is set in '96 just 17 years after OYW Bright according to TV canon is 19 by 0079 so he's just 36 by unicorn.
@solitaregames
@solitaregames Жыл бұрын
@@Saddawg-cz7yw what? Isnt Unicorn after char's counter attack? And after victory gundam? And after F91?
@GojirajJr
@GojirajJr Жыл бұрын
F91 and Victory happened during UC 0123 and UC 0153 respectively, so no, Unicorn does not take place after Victory and F91
@nestorsolera6788
@nestorsolera6788 Жыл бұрын
I was crying with final battle.
@LadCarmichael
@LadCarmichael Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that I don't like reboots that add nothing to the story, but in my mind, a lot of the UC timeline has merits in getting reboots. We saw with Gundam the Origin how much the manga adaptations added to the story, and personally I think Char Deleted Affair, and the following Define, which rewrites the events of Zeta, are worth getting their own adaptation as well, seeing how much they add to Char and the other characters. Deleted Affair particularly changed a lot of things on how i view Char Counterattack.
@kurt8510
@kurt8510 Жыл бұрын
So can you get this on DVD or blu-ray
@billozer0761
@billozer0761 Жыл бұрын
It will be out on Amazon Prime later this year. I think it will get a blu ray release too
@mattluna09
@mattluna09 Жыл бұрын
We’re can I watch it
@ronniec8218
@ronniec8218 Жыл бұрын
they should at least do something with double zeta Gundam
@xxSturdyWingsxx
@xxSturdyWingsxx Жыл бұрын
Crazy there’s still no compilation movies for ZZ. In truth it’s one of the least liked UC shows so it’s unlikely for them to revisit it even tho I’d like to see it.
@pinkt1t5
@pinkt1t5 Жыл бұрын
where do i even buy this movie??
@AndrewDasilvaPLT
@AndrewDasilvaPLT Ай бұрын
Can we get an episode about needing salt?
@upsidedownmachiatto2670
@upsidedownmachiatto2670 Жыл бұрын
I really just want updated visuals. The story can be the same.
@theburningcoder5859
@theburningcoder5859 Жыл бұрын
Great video man but I do have to disagree with you. While I understand your fears with remakes, I think it is different case with Gundam. The Gundam franchise is so large that most people who try to get in to it give up. Having a series everyone can point to point to as the definitive starting place would be huge for getting more people into Gundam. Right now, if you were to go on a forum and ask where to start with Gundam you would get way to many response. You would get a purist telling you watch the original show and another telling you the 3 remake movies are fine. The zommer says IBO and the millennial says Wing. The dragonball fan says G fighter, the Code Geass fan says 00 and the Ghibli fan says Turn A. You might also hear War in a pocket or Thunderbolt for some reason. I would say The Origin because it's U.C, it's a prequel to 1979, it's short, and it's probably the best anime thats come out in the last decade with the exception being Vinland Saga maybe? The problem with Origin is that it works best when you've already seen the original show. I showed it to my friends and they really liked it but I had to explain to explain a lot. While it's ideal to start with the original show, it's very difficult to convince newcomers to watch something that's old and long. While the complication movies help a little, the dated visuals aren't helping at all. approach
@frankjaeger2565
@frankjaeger2565 Жыл бұрын
Origin is not a prequel to the original show, it's an adaptation of Yasuhiko's manga. This movie follows up on Origin, and keeps on contradicting Tomino's version of the story
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
@@frankjaeger2565 that’s like saying that the Invasion of the Body Snatchers contradicts the original. It’s stupid and obvious.
@frankjaeger2565
@frankjaeger2565 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasffrench3639 it is obvious, yet plenty of people insist that Origin is totally canon, like the guy I was responding to...
@eitanr
@eitanr Жыл бұрын
Modern flaky anime fans would have trouble watching the original series. Cheesiness, quirky characters, and an overarching serious tone may be an acquired taste, but it's worth it.
@tomrenjie
@tomrenjie Жыл бұрын
Did I just see Sleggar Law on Earth?!?
@wahwah59
@wahwah59 3 ай бұрын
4:43 that clip on the right, which series does it come from? It looks better than the original
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 11 күн бұрын
I think it's from the first episode of 0079. There are a few shots, especially early in the show, that look strangely good. It might be from the movie edit of 0079 though, they did some new animation for that too.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
I really want tonsee Origin adapted in full.
@bluekashus2499
@bluekashus2499 Жыл бұрын
They need to remake Double Zeta and add Amuro to it. They could easily have it mesh with CCA better.
@ElEscolta
@ElEscolta Жыл бұрын
You using the reanimated game cutscenes from the original series made me think that a movie version of the trilogy using them would be cool, maybe like what zeta ANT did. Anyway, i agreed, i would rather prefer they make new series that tackle new themes and stories (So far GWicth is fucking great) Tho, maybe if they where to reanimating some episodes, or maybe the whole series but keeping the original voice work could work for an interesting idea (?)
@marvelboi3416
@marvelboi3416 4 ай бұрын
The only changes they have made was not having Ryu in this but switching him with Lt. Slugger instead.... I thought the animation was pristine just like on MSG: Origins and the movie was magnificent......Don't count your blessings too soon because there will be a remake in the future to keep it subpar with the new animation like MSG: Origin, Cucuruz Doan's Island and Hathaway.
@OneAzzholesOpinion
@OneAzzholesOpinion Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a new series set in the one yar war but focused on a front-line unit of normal humans with no space magic BS Mary Sue characters, in the same vein as 8th MS Team but set in space or on the moon. Get gritty with it, maybe follow a mercenary unit ala Area 88 or something. The OYW and UC timeline is definitely the richest and most interesting canvass on which to paint a new story.
@ShiRoaNanaya
@ShiRoaNanaya Жыл бұрын
Instead of a full on remake, Sunrise should do like an alternate timeline whereas it's a mix of the Origin and the old novel version of Mobile Suit Gundam (the one where Amuro and Sayla has a relationship, and has a more tragic ending). Basically have the art style, and mobile suits of the Origin while having a mix of the story telling with the old novel. Idk what do you guys think?
@eitanr
@eitanr Жыл бұрын
That would be really cool
@jamesbrick250
@jamesbrick250 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wished Sunrise to remake the original from the Gundam the Origin manga as the most fleshed version of 0079.
@falkyrie5228
@falkyrie5228 Жыл бұрын
1:14 So... A good remake?
@frankjaeger2565
@frankjaeger2565 Жыл бұрын
07:22 how are they intact when they already have Sleggar on boars, the war is going on differently, the mobile suits and uniforms are different, they're Journey to the Federation base takes a different route.... This movie is a follow up to the Origin ova, which already contradicted the original show
@Solbrave00
@Solbrave00 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the remake/ reboot subject...i wouldn't mind a remake of seed/seed destiny
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A Жыл бұрын
Original planned SEED ending: Kira, Lacus, Cagalli and the rest of TSA dies, leaving Athrun as the sole survivor, missing an arm and a leg.
@Solbrave00
@Solbrave00 Жыл бұрын
@@Joshua_N-A what about destiny?
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A Жыл бұрын
@@Solbrave00 plot wise, the beginning looks similar to Stardust Memory instead of Zeta and SM starts just a few years after 0079 while Destiny begins 2 years later after SEED and like Kou, Shinn is a rookie. Characters like Mare Strode, Riika Sheder and Courtney Heironimus should be in the Minerva with Mare and Shinn butting heads on who should be the designated pilot of the Impulse, much like how Monsha and Kou except Mare isn't a womanizer. Depending on the planned endings of SEED: no. 1 is Kira dies, Athrun maimed with most of the main cast including Cagalli and Lacus are spared, where 2 is every main cast dies except Athrun, still maimed, Shinn would still be the MC from start to finish in Destiny but the story would be written differently especially in the second half with the first half is CE version of Stardust Memory but more refined than the original. That's my take on it btw. Stargazer showed it got that potential to be the greatest AU.
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 11 күн бұрын
@@Joshua_N-A I was pretty weirded out that that didn't happen in the anime, it felt like they were on a suicide mission.
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 10 күн бұрын
@@henryfleischer404 not to mention 3 ships without any support. Fall of Orb and limited numbers of Astrays that managed to escape, those who are close to Siegel are either be arrested or dead and Archangel is labelled as deserter. What they did in SEED would be suicidal in other media. The last few episodes of Gundam 00 season 1 is probably the closest thing to that.
@ohmywingz
@ohmywingz Жыл бұрын
Just remained the whole series
@gundamace2037
@gundamace2037 Жыл бұрын
Where can we catch this movie? I can find a stream anywhere from any stream services. I see several release dates not nothing concrete. anyone have an idea? U.S. release and where to stream?
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
There were screenings a few days ago, but only for two days
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
@flamestoyershadowkill6400 Жыл бұрын
as long a you do not break continuity or thematic ethos then things go decently.
@joshkelso123
@joshkelso123 Жыл бұрын
I felt like they changed alot of the personalities or traits of the white base crew. Did u see it sub or dub?
@joshkelso123
@joshkelso123 Жыл бұрын
@@Gundam79 I saw it in theaters on the 28th in dub actually
@flaviomolina7165
@flaviomolina7165 Жыл бұрын
theyre pretty close to the origin manga version
@joshkelso123
@joshkelso123 Жыл бұрын
@@flaviomolina7165 yea, ur right. Just how some of the characters acted throw me off especially after finishing the original one. Bright was a bit different, even slugger
@jrickducking6685
@jrickducking6685 Жыл бұрын
@@joshkelso123 Slegger isn't supposed to appear until white base go to jaburo after operation Odessa This implies that ryu died or was temporary/ indefinitely discharged after the battle of loum and was replaced by slegger
@joshkelso123
@joshkelso123 Жыл бұрын
@@jrickducking6685 that's right...
@brianortega3225
@brianortega3225 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely think a remake would go a long way. I was not a fan of Curucruz Doan's Island and besides the humor, though it was very ok.
@YuusukeOnodera
@YuusukeOnodera Жыл бұрын
This was the remake of the episode 15 of the original anime, whose title by chance was Curucruz Doan's Island, which was not released in home video outside Japan at Tomino's request, because he deemed that the original episode had a poor animation quality.
@alcardespear2446
@alcardespear2446 Жыл бұрын
You must be young chekov from star trek
@TheLVJ
@TheLVJ Жыл бұрын
The Origin anime and Cucuruz Doan's Island are companions to the manga, only. There are too many anachronisms, incongruencies, and blatant contradiction to UC lore for them to fit in with either 1979 anime or film trilogy in any reasonable sense.
@frankjaeger2565
@frankjaeger2565 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who makes sense
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
And?
@TheLVJ
@TheLVJ Жыл бұрын
Okay?
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLVJ who said that it needed to have the same events? It’s a remake/adaptation, changes are inevitable
@TheLVJ
@TheLVJ Жыл бұрын
@@thomasffrench3639 I don't think you understand how an established continuity and canon are supposed to work.
@alfianfawzi2064
@alfianfawzi2064 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I like Zeta New Translation's ending more than the original.
@striker7469
@striker7469 Жыл бұрын
Fucking cool!
@andrewmackemzie4565
@andrewmackemzie4565 Жыл бұрын
Who died and made you boss of ms Gundam?
@akiraman008
@akiraman008 Жыл бұрын
Could've have just said since this is the Gundam the origin version of Doan island just adapt the rest of the origin manga
@JosephJoboLicayan
@JosephJoboLicayan Жыл бұрын
Interesting opinion but you have to remember that the vast majority of the fanbase is in favor of a remake of Mobile Suit Gundam (MSG). Although MSG is easily regarded as a classic, time has not been very kind to it as the 1979 animation makes it hard to watch with modern audiences. I wont sugarcoat it, many parts of the original anime had some bad animation and alot of things they animated simply didnt age that well. You cant attract new fans to the franchise if youre gonna be presenting them with something thats unpalatable in the 2020s, even many fans of Gundam are turned off by the aged animation and will just opt for the trilogy instead. Not everyone is a hardcore purist that can enjoy an anime released in 1979. An Origin remake of the MSG TV anime gives an opportunity for everyone to experience what they love about Gundam all over again. The best part is, it comes from a familiar story but with some modern paint which will attract not just the massive UC fanbase, but also bring a new generation of fans to the franchise. Not only does it make sense from the standpoint of the fans (it is what the community wants), but it also makes a lot of business sense for Bandai to milk kits out of (money is more important to companies than art). Although yes, I agree that the approach taken by Cucuruz Doans Island (CDI) is a very interesting and wonderful approach to remaking, its pretty much just a taste for when the actual Origin remake takes centerstage. But the truth is, ever since the prequel arc of the Origin anime finished, its pretty much an open secret that Bandai has been developing the Origin Remake anime. Evidence of this is how Sunrise released that little teaser of the Origin Gundam getting up from the trailer from MSG's first episode but also in UC Engage and CDI using the designs from Origin and not from MSG. It doesnt make too much sense to use the Origin style for one-offs unless its Thunderbolt, which is also set on an adjacent/parallel UC-timeline. Bandai is simply waiting for the perfect moment to drop this enormous cash cow, which might possibly become bigger than Unicorn was. TLDR: At this point, an Origin anime remake is inevitable and Bandai is in no rush, just waiting for the perfect time.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
People watch the original Star Wars fine, and that’s aged as a movie as well. I’m not against a remake just because although I think the original anime is fantastic, it definitely has flaws that can improve in a remake. But you also have to admit that Star Wars can also benefit from a remake
@kinjapleb4228
@kinjapleb4228 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasffrench3639 I think the difference with Star Wars is there's not single element thats super outdated. Sure, some effects are off and the writing was a bit weird but Gundam 79 was just consistently terribly animated. The dramatic tension is also slightly different, and the pacing of the show can be weird. I guarantee if a reboot was made they'd put a heavy emphasis on Char's backstory, leading to a whole new generation of Char simps.
@xXswagy0l0blazeit420
@xXswagy0l0blazeit420 Жыл бұрын
They really did remake the plot for this movie. They didn't do plot expansion so much as change many, many things. Example: in the movie Cucuruz ruthlessly kills former friends and foe; in MSG, Cucuruz tries to avoid murder. Just one example of subtle characterization in MSG that is butchered in the Origin continuity The Origin animations are fantastic but I'm not a fan of the timeline, it's too different from UC.
@striker7469
@striker7469 Жыл бұрын
The real remake.
@marzbee115
@marzbee115 Жыл бұрын
I somewhat disagree. The original gundam is over 40 years old and the anime straight up just does not hold up. I want to get people in to the uc timeline from the start. I recommend them origin first, then... the original movies? bandai needs to do a full 50 episode reboot origins style and not movies of smaller events like doan's because the universal century is not a beginner friendly timeline mainly because of how old the anime is. I watched doan's island with my friend who is a newbie. I enjoyed it but he didn't because the movie doesn't do enough to give context to people who never watched the 1979 anime or movie trilogy. I do not want to gatekeep people out of the u.c. timeline. so in conclusion: animate more gundam origin bandai!
@r0w5tortion84
@r0w5tortion84 Жыл бұрын
Origin manga? I think it's completely free on comicwalker up to chapter ~90, and physically available in its entirety, and for me it's the best rendition of the OYW, even if the characters have somewhat different personalities
@mpo48
@mpo48 Жыл бұрын
Just deal with it and watch it, remakes ruin everything, you don't want anime to only be remakes like every american movie these days, stop trying to ruin everything by demanding reboots and remakes
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
Except it does hold up 40 years later. Yes the animation isn’t good, but people watch modern anime with terrible animation all the time. It’s not dated. It’s just flawed.
@mpo48
@mpo48 Жыл бұрын
@Bionick Toa and i hope you wont have that remake
@mpo48
@mpo48 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasffrench3639 arguably modern animation sometimes looks even worse when its actually bad since you cant say its dated when the animators fuck up this time, same with special effects, 3d tends to look absolutely horrible when done badly, also saying older looking animation and art style is bad is stupid people watch the old star wars movies and they are not bothered by it looking dated, they are considered an important part of film history and respected, i just don't understand why it has to be any different with anime, why cant we respect the classic here?
@Riiludragon
@Riiludragon Жыл бұрын
it's "Cucuruz" not "Cucurux"
@J_Sergio
@J_Sergio Жыл бұрын
A huevo.... im the 260 like
@081Ghost
@081Ghost Жыл бұрын
Would love for them to do a Gundam Wing Re-imagining or remake. Tried to watch it again recently and the plot wasn't communicated properly I feel like
@holyordersol2668
@holyordersol2668 Жыл бұрын
Wing’s tv anime plot is definitely something that is too condensed and quick paced for the amount of events that occur in it. I’d love to have a Glory of Losers manga-to-anime adaptation of Wing, since that manga attempts to cohesively retell the plot with elements from all the other Wing materials.
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A Жыл бұрын
Glory of The Losers?
@081Ghost
@081Ghost Жыл бұрын
@Joshua N. Ajang it was a Manga that came out after talking about their origins as well as progressing the story after Endless Waltz
@CaffeinatedIce
@CaffeinatedIce Жыл бұрын
Or maybe you could just make a new universal century cut off from the old one and build it from the ground up.... Instead of trying to fit into old ass stories..... You know? And to consider origin as a prequel to the show is kinda wrong because of all the differences, origin strictly follows the origin timeline, and you'd have to use your own headcanon to connect origin and the original 0079 together, and not gonna lie, I've already do that, but instead of trying origin backwards into the old stuff, I tie it into new stuff that's also been modified to fit, like Char's Deleted Affair, Zeta Define and Stardust Memory Rebellion, and CCA Beltorchica's Children Modifications like art styles and plot stuff, some personal like my preferred replacement of Beltorchica's Children with Sayla, and some actual plot issues like M'Quve dying at Odessa in Origin and him dying right after A-Baoa Qu in Char's Deleted Affair which my headcanon just says M'Quve has a Twin, and besides- this version of M'Quve was kinda off character anyways
@luxeternity
@luxeternity Жыл бұрын
gundam remake is the way. I can't stand seeing something that should be metal but behave like plastic. no. gundam remake is a must
@Darth1Marik
@Darth1Marik Жыл бұрын
I disagree, where as I don't mind these OVAs or films to expand on cut original content or just new stuff for original characters a good reboot if done right can reignite the spark or introduce new fans to the series. I've had so many possible Gundam fans quit because the 1979 animation is just god awful. I hate that Sunrise outsourced to 3rd party animators who went and gave us things like Fat Gouf, or disproportionate Gundam on more then one frame. With as popular as Gundam us now and the success of certain series like Unicorn or The Origin OVAs it's absolutely possible to reboot the 1979 animation. It doesn't have to be a complete soulless reboot it can do so much more. I mean if it also doesn't have anything new so what? I think thats just your personal opinion when you say a reboot that has nothing new is bland. If something is old and outdated theres nothing wrong with giving it a shiny new coat of paint. As long as it's not like Berserk 2016 any 1979 Gundam reboot/remake or as you said a re-imagine will do just fine.
@cpt191021
@cpt191021 Жыл бұрын
i like the change i amuros eye color looks more new typish
@thirstyviaduct
@thirstyviaduct Жыл бұрын
I could have waited 7 years to watch this movie on KZfaq in 720p and saved my money instead
@zitimotleyxxjmxx
@zitimotleyxxjmxx Жыл бұрын
Stop touching the existing materials! We need crossbone and Sentinel anime
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A Жыл бұрын
Sentinel's rights is still with the magazine it was published in, I think. It won't be easy. BANDAI owns Sunrise so if the top execs want remakes, they will do remakes even if you're against it. Anime is global these days, no longer niche to consumers, especially the West particularly United States where it's one of the biggest market now.
@_gungrave_6802
@_gungrave_6802 Жыл бұрын
MSG needs a remake full stop as I don't care what anyone says. The original MSG series would benefit from some filler being removed, improved pacing, characterization improvements, and animation on the same level as the Origin OVA. I generally don't understand why some of the fanbase is against it because younger anime fans simply won't watch it because of the animation looks worse than some 60s era hanna barbera cartoons despite MSG being made in 1978/1979. Remember we are coming up on the 50th anniversary of the gundam franchise in 2029 so a remake with Origins animation would be Sunrise basically going balls deep to celebrate. It would also allow them to add in some OYW mobile suit designs that were used in later franchises and OVAs.
@CLSharpman5000
@CLSharpman5000 Жыл бұрын
I'll take anything dubbed in my native language for 200 Can't find nothin' but subs
@mee7er
@mee7er Жыл бұрын
The original Gundam is old as shit and has extremely uneven animation quality. It should get a modern remake. If you don’t want to see it then don’t watch it. But I know there’d be a lot of old fans who’d love to experience the show again and new Gundam fans who have not seen the original show because the poor animation is too high a barrier for entry.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
The Godfather is also old as shit, but a remake would literally make the entire world explode. Age is not a reason to remake. If they don’t want to watch the original it’s their loss. There’s so many other anime to watch you don’t need to watch Gundam.
@eitanr
@eitanr Жыл бұрын
Its uneven animation quality is part of its charm. Unintentionally, the changes in quality reflect the highs and lows of the White Base and its crew. The original series is not in dire need of a remake. It just so happens that a remake/reimagining would add richness to the existing story.
@kinjapleb4228
@kinjapleb4228 Жыл бұрын
@@eitanr I personally think the newer fans deserve a good starting point for the series, and the 79 Gundam is just outdated. The things with movies is that even if something looks slightly fake, if the story is good then a lot of people can still be invested in the story. For example, Jaws has an outdated shark model but the movie is still revered. Animation on the other hand is one of the most important part of an anime; it takes much more effort to relate to a drawing than an actual actor. This is why movies like Lion King start with really good and immersive visuals to make us feel like we're apart of this world. Gundam 79 just won't immerse modern viewers. And I personally don't see the issues with remakes, the original isn't affected at all. What I want for the series is for it to brought up as one of the greats, and for that it needs to have a wider reach. If the reboot sucks we still always have the original.
@eitanr
@eitanr Жыл бұрын
@@kinjapleb4228 Valid points
@Sighphi
@Sighphi Жыл бұрын
Rebuild was total crap. It was exactly what you said not to do.
@eitanr
@eitanr Жыл бұрын
Rebuild doesn't undermine the original Eva. It serves as an effective supplement. Cope.
@Garrettisonfire
@Garrettisonfire Жыл бұрын
They need to stop with this cgi bullshit and start animating again.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
It’s is animation
@stevenkimdmd
@stevenkimdmd Жыл бұрын
Another reboot? O...kay... Lack of creativity. That's all I have to say about that.
@Drago5899
@Drago5899 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind an animation of the origin manga, but only if they actually animate it. The CGI in this movie was so off putting i could not watch the mobile suit engagements. When the main attraction of Gundam is unwatchable, then you know you fked up.
@daytimelantern6570
@daytimelantern6570 Жыл бұрын
The cg wasn't that bad but man your missing out then
@biggussoupius9713
@biggussoupius9713 Жыл бұрын
This side story I found to be extremely disappointing, it just changed characters and their agency a lot, wasted the Southern Cross who also just felt out of place in an MSG79 main side story and is nowhere near to the quality of the qctual ORIGIN manga. Its sad because the ORIGIN retelling of 79 is 10/10 but the prequel and side stories are vastly weaker offerings but get animated.
@echs457
@echs457 Жыл бұрын
in my opinion, simply reanimate the original trilogy. then maybe do what they did with Greco and make 5 parts for zeta. OH and tweak it a bit so that zz is NO LONGER CANON
@koweedate
@koweedate Жыл бұрын
Then again Char's Counterattack and then from beyond that would be affected as well.
@echs457
@echs457 Жыл бұрын
@@koweedate if zz is not Canon? Take your jokes elsewhere please. The ending of zeta is literally the nail in the coffin for char and his plans to take over zeon.
@koweedate
@koweedate Жыл бұрын
@@echs457 i think you're the one who's joking though. then again, everything would lead to Correct Century anyway
@echs457
@echs457 Жыл бұрын
@@koweedate am I? I was unaware.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
@@echs457 eh it goes against the themes of Tomino’s story but why not?
@jasonreynolds6643
@jasonreynolds6643 Жыл бұрын
Don’t change the story. Just reanimate it with modern animation.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
So basically make it a waste of time to animate?
@eitanr
@eitanr Жыл бұрын
Yu Yu Hakusho
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A Жыл бұрын
Sounds like pulling what Capcom did to Resident Evil 1 for the Gamecube. Not only keeping the original contents but expand on it.
@frankjaeger2565
@frankjaeger2565 Жыл бұрын
This movie clearly doesn't take place in standard UC, the events are clearly going on differently than in the original series (they got Sleggar on board, just to name one). This movie is meant to follow Yasuhiko's vision of Gundam, not to complement the original works by Tomino, just like the Origin ova, thar already showed major inconsistencies with the original story. I also found this movie to be just boring, the tone in really bland, the characters are uninteresting and the fightings are not entertaining. I wouldn't recommend this movie unless you're a completionist when it comes to Gundam
@cpt191021
@cpt191021 Жыл бұрын
i guess they could remake it in the sense keep everything the same just update the artwork. but i aprreciate the drawn stuff the digital shit is starting to get old to be honest
@cpt191021
@cpt191021 Жыл бұрын
the most recent remaster of seed is AWFUL in dub they redubbed it and ruined it completley. taking things out chaning meanings etc..
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