After buying a lot of over 200 uncleaned Roman coins, I try to see if I can uncover the history underneath a century of dirt, silt and grime!
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@catherinerandall19666 ай бұрын
How fascinating Alex! When I was a kid on west coast of Vancouver Island we dug a huge hole in our carport. Digging our way to China no doubt? We found a hoard of what we called very strange pennies. Turned out to be Spanish coins dated 1760's The Spaniards had come up the west coast. Surprising how far up from the Alberni canal that the hoard was. This Piqued a lifelong interest in antiquities for me.
@JeanStAubin-nl9uo6 ай бұрын
That is so cool!
@christinemarsh48276 ай бұрын
What an amazing find! Thank you for sharing. 😊
@rubyrose248816 ай бұрын
The straight of Juan de Fuca is called that for a reason...
@robertrichard27396 ай бұрын
hint: when cleaning never us metal on metal, toothpicks work quite well and are a lot kinder to the coin
@eddieboulos67916 ай бұрын
14:10 this is a Justin II and sophia coin and its from the Byzantine empire between 565 to 578 A.D
@frankkelly22456 ай бұрын
I dunno. Doesn’t look it. Couple hundred years after the others too.
@jazzjohannes6 ай бұрын
I agree @eddieboulos6791 , and if you search the coin talk website, there is a whole page full of people submitting their variations and more information around it.
@SwirlingSoul6 ай бұрын
12 years.. such a short period of history and there it is, a real coin from way back then. I wonder how many coins from us will ever be found.. I mean, we mostly pay digitally now. Cash is getting more rare by the day. Future archeologists might assume we reverted to "no money just trade" or something. Would WE assign our ancestors computer skills and digital money?
@l.m.24046 ай бұрын
@SwirlingSoul I suppose that up to certain decades, pennies will be found everywhere. In middens, dumps, churches, the mysterious horizontal tunnels dotted near historical sites, etc. Of course, in a drought stricken future, future humans have no idea what wishing wells are. 😅😂🤣
@Hannibalian3 ай бұрын
that can't be justin ii, looks to me like an isaurian or later, definitely not before. the art style is very similar to that of leo iii/constantine v-.
@jameshorsted54892 ай бұрын
I feel sad that you used chemicals on those Roman coins. Distilled water only, I have cleaned hundreds of roman coins, Each one can take up to 4 to 6 hours if you have the patience, Using chemicals causes pitting on the coin and it does not look good, Do it properly & you will be rewarded Love your work.🙂
@laurigardner62276 ай бұрын
The unknown coin is probably an early Byzantine coin - I don't know which one it is. The M, means it's 40 nummi, according to the Greek numbering system. These are also known as follis. The follis was reintroduced as a large bronze coin (40 nummi) in 498, with the coinage reform of Anastasius, which included a series of bronze denominations with their values marked in Greek numerals. Edit: Based on the crosses above their heads, my guess is the two figures are Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine, from 610-641. It's similar to a follis from Nikomedia.
@Snarkapotamus6 ай бұрын
Constantine was my guess given the crosses...
@cherylross27186 ай бұрын
I asked my cousin whom collects ancient coins, before I read your comment. He seems to have the same answer. I'm sure Alex will appreciate this, and run with it.
@janegrieve6 ай бұрын
Oh no you have ruined them 😮🙈
@scotmhead6 ай бұрын
This is one of my areas of expertise, been cleaning ancients for 20 years and the golden age is gone. Now uncleaned coins are picked over so badly you really do get mostly junk unless you know where a few good sources are. Reall the goal is to preserve the coin with its green/brown/black smooth patina, because the patina has displaced the surface detail in most cases. Your solution stripped the patina leaving not many good coins. The one at 6:58 looks a bit better because it has silver content. Its an Antoninianus of emperor Aurelian. The coin at 8:10 looks like Valens (can't read the legend completely) and is a common late Roman empire type. Stripped of patina its not much more than a curiousity but its got nice detail for the type. 12:28 is a campgate of Constantine I and you can see the mint mark, it was struck at Siscia. Your enigma coins is certainly a Byzantine follis, the two figures on the from could be a number of combinations of rulers, the reverse appears to be way off-centered (not uncommon), the large M is the denomination mark (follis) but it also appears to possibly be overstruck on a predecessor's coin. Not sure. But certainly Byzantine.
@kit60416 ай бұрын
I'm glad you said this, I saw this video and was cringing when I started to see raw copper.
@poephila6 ай бұрын
Honest question (I don’t know much on this topic!): why is some amount of patina desirable and increases the value of the coin? Presumably all coins in their new condition wouldn’t have had any, so I’m curious to know!
@scotmhead6 ай бұрын
@@poephila It is because the patina has displaced the originl surface, the detail is usually preserved in the patina. Take the patina off and you remove some or all of the design on the coin and are left with a rough surface, or a lunar-like pitted slug. It is sometimes not the case, occasionally you get a decent coin when you remove the patina, but it is garish and gaudy as bare metal, so most who do remove the patina darken the coin with a false patina, which should always be disclosed if you sell the coin. These bronzes were usually silver washed and appeared silver in color, not bronze, so its impossible to re-silver them, so we generally preserve the patina. There is a great beauty in a nice, smooth, glossy, emerald green patina.
@poephila6 ай бұрын
@scotmhead That is so interesting! Thank you so much for the explanation. You did mention the loss of details in your first comment but I understand better now. I also had no idea about silver washing, it's fascinating. I know a little bit more today!
@DavidCooper716 ай бұрын
What solution do you use to preserve old coins? @@scotmhead
@NitrousDiecast6 ай бұрын
I like these types of episodes, seeing these coins is very interesting!
@Thinking.Of.Some.Handle6 ай бұрын
Don't use metal scrapers!!
@lynnefoster96 ай бұрын
I just came across your channel last week and I have been home all week sick so I have gone all the way back to the beginning. I am up to five years. I love your finds and how your whole family pitched in.
@jeanniescrochetcreations49786 ай бұрын
How cool!!please do another video to update us with the coin info! Very interesting and cool! Maybe it was from the templar age
@randybehenna30816 ай бұрын
No matter what I am watching your channel comes on I watch
@LurkerSmurf6 ай бұрын
What a fascinating project! Thanks for pointing out that you only did this because the coins had no value otherwise. You know to never, ever clean a coin that's worth something.
@favouritemoon41336 ай бұрын
What a great episode! I've followed you for a few years now, and you're still full of surprises.
@berthagreen16206 ай бұрын
Wow. That was interesting. Can’t wait to hear the history.
@normafleming25186 ай бұрын
I love that you work to find new and interesting content to show us. I loved this.
@johnrandle30026 ай бұрын
Use a toothpick for scraping
@gioiacasterline48356 ай бұрын
Love old coins so amazing
@beverlyparrott38906 ай бұрын
Very interesting Alex. One time I got a Jerusalem coin in Jesus time and I gave to my sister . Love old coins❤😊
@Bob_the_bottleman6 ай бұрын
Cool coins Alex!! Nice bit of history there.
@GuyWithTheDogs6 ай бұрын
The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true! Right? But wait! There's been a change! The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon! The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!
@susanorr75356 ай бұрын
Excellent history knowledge!
@caperguy20006 ай бұрын
I wonder if you used an ultrasonic cleaner with your solution
@michaelmathews2956 ай бұрын
It would work well with cleaning all the jewelry that you pick up. I have one for cleaning carburetors on motorcycles.
@rikspector6 ай бұрын
Alexander, That looked like fun, tedious but fun:) Cheers, Rik Spector
@pamelaarescurrinaga82016 ай бұрын
Interesting post. Thanks for including us
@user-in8ep9tz9r6 ай бұрын
I too love holding something someone in the past held. Excellent video ❤
@carolynsimone86476 ай бұрын
Amazing video...i know nothing about coinsbut throughly enjoyed and the time period is amazing ....🥰🥰
@davidlj536 ай бұрын
Very interesting, I love this kind of history!
@paulotts6 ай бұрын
15:00 I noticed you occasionally turning this coin to the reverse and then rolling it (to see which way is right side up). If it's a coin, the reverse would flip top over bottom to remain properly viewable. If it's a token, turn it side to side for the coin to remain properly viewable.
@spud42426 ай бұрын
maybe on US coins but not all nations past or present do it the same way as the us. in fact current AUSTRALIAN coins need to be rotated left to right.
@paulotts6 ай бұрын
@@spud4242 Correction accepted. Thank you.
@CatsMeowPaw29 күн бұрын
When cleaning ancient coins you should try and leave as much of the green/black patina as possible. Scraping away until you get to the underlying copper greatly reduces the value of the coin.
@laurigardner62276 ай бұрын
These look mostly as metal detector finds, and by just looking at them in their rougher shape, they are late Roman and early Byzantine coins.
@nancycornett99496 ай бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@dananderson1285 ай бұрын
Great episode.
@MargieBenson-dv9ek6 ай бұрын
Those are awesome, thank you for sharing ❤
@heathernolan9026 ай бұрын
What a fun treasure hunt!
@randytim5126 ай бұрын
Totally enjoyable video!
@RitaVernoy6 ай бұрын
Fascinating! I’m a history geek.😊
@henrys36296 ай бұрын
Years ago I bought one of these lots. So many of the coins were broken or very tiny. I think your coins are nicer. I didn't know about the cleaning solution.
@michaelripley45286 ай бұрын
Fun to Watch the process! And how Nice the Crud preserved Them💯 Did you rinse of in water to stop the process??😁
@vec42536 ай бұрын
Very Interesting!
@diyshiitake67336 ай бұрын
Those coins are gorgeous!!!!
@JeanStAubin-nl9uo6 ай бұрын
This was fascinating!
@dianavanderclute43226 ай бұрын
The coins are awesome.......imagine Roman history coming alive to tell stories thanks to Alex! Alex, mudlarkers in England use a solution with electric wire and they come out almost totally clean. Just a thought.
@janvafa99596 ай бұрын
Electrolysis… fun science project!
@kathleenmartin74984 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of ancient Roman coins too, so I'm anxious to see what happens!!!
@frankiecarrel97946 ай бұрын
This was absolutely amazing. I watched it when you found them but I don't know but I finished it because I live in a nursing sometime and I had to stop because they need me to do something.😊
@theresa51686 ай бұрын
Hello Everyone, I watch a mudlarking group that might have a idea what coin that is, Si-Finds And Nicola White are a group of people who collect from the River Thames and several other places. They might have a clue. Chill Bill, Nugget Noggin are also enthusiastic about coins. British Museum of Artifacts, (is a good guess on the title there), might have a clue too. Very historically accurate attempt by the whole group. Really enjoyed the video. And I will be glad to watch again.
@ruthie6004 ай бұрын
love watching Nicola White and Si-finds!
@maddieadams756 ай бұрын
Fascinating thanks for sharing ❤
@CathyMiller07116 ай бұрын
So interesting. Thanks!
@Onemanshowforever6 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
@madelynl.53516 ай бұрын
It’s the age-old argument between leaving the age patina on the coin or removing the dirt and polishing it up. You have many numismatists (coin experts?) leaving comments. They are the experts. Interesting vid.
@EagleEyes7776 ай бұрын
About 35 years ago at Birks Jewelers store, they brought in sunken treaure from an old ship. You could view these gold coins or buy one, which was very expensive back then
@christinemarsh48276 ай бұрын
Fascinating!
@laraemitchell90646 ай бұрын
Sounds like about the right time frame for when the treasures from the shipwreck “Atocha” were on display. I saw a similar display at a jewelry store in Boise. Incredible Spanish treasure. Gold, silver, coins, emeralds. Amazing things that were on the Atocha, sunk in a storm in the Caribbean in 1622 and found after years of searching by the Fisher family.
@marystrenke30506 ай бұрын
So fascinating to me- such history 😮
@janeysiegrist50616 ай бұрын
Very cool Alex 😎
@lynnedelacy28416 ай бұрын
It looked like one of the coins was clipped - this was done at one time when coins were actually made of precious metals and people took clippings This was stopped as the coins were potentially getting devalued and the use of base metals introduced
@laurigardner62276 ай бұрын
Shaving coins was common up until the late middle ages, which is why weight was a more common way to measure the worth of coinage. As the Roman Empire began to suffer from inflation, commodity currency became fiat currency, which lead to the devaluation of the metal content in the money. Clipping was used to check the metal content inside a coin, and also to round out a transaction, which is why smaller coins would be clipped. Going back to shaving of coins for their metal content, people who did this illegal practice in the late middle ages were known as chiselers, which is where we get the word chiseler for a penny-pinching miser.
@laurelshugars28666 ай бұрын
You know your product better than I do, but I am surprised that you never replaced the old murky stuff with a new bath. Also, if you have the patience for it, you might want to try gently bouncing a medium to soft straight bristle brush on the coins while they are in the bath.
@jeanadamsick98546 ай бұрын
COOL!!! Do take care. Fl., USA
@sabrown35516 ай бұрын
You need a magnifying glass to see the coins
@margoakley23456 ай бұрын
The portcullis you showed on some of the coins was still on British three penny bits until they went out of mint in the 1960s!
@gaile22416 ай бұрын
This is so interesting for me
@laurensouthgate24586 ай бұрын
I did enjoy this .
@kaytiej83116 ай бұрын
Fascinating stuff.
@chrislongbeard6 ай бұрын
The coins look in better shape than some currently in circulation.
@lindaedwards23426 ай бұрын
It's like traveling back in time
@theresa51686 ай бұрын
By the way Si-Finds had a video he used a Silicone nib pen to remove more residue with. Fun one to watch. You might like it too.
@smu72706 ай бұрын
Really cool!
@ClassicalNumismatics2 ай бұрын
Ouch! You dont depatinate ancient coins like this! 😭
@patriciawilliamsn96056 ай бұрын
That cleaning stuff was fantastic
@sheelfjohnson6 ай бұрын
You might want to get one of those cell phone microscopes that you can attach over your phone camera. You can get some pretty good pictures using that. Plus it's fun to mess around with. ☺️
@lauraleecreations32176 ай бұрын
This is very interesting
@barefootminis6 ай бұрын
I too enjoyed this.
@LJ-qk8ui6 ай бұрын
How fascinating!
@clairedesrosiers73986 ай бұрын
Fun haul to check one by one’s.. left over can be for art, craft, display… to be reuse in a nice way! Do not discard
@ginameyer88326 ай бұрын
wow!!! so amazing
@katwitanruna6 ай бұрын
Just started watching, if it doesn’t work I bet you know an artist who could use them!
@SwirlingSoul6 ай бұрын
That was SO interesting to see!! I can never get enough of ancient history. I mean, a coin in the era that Jesus was walking around? That's such a special time to have an actual, real artefact from! I can't help but imagine you with the loup to the eye to see what's on the coins. My grandfather was a gold and silver smith, and he used to have this loup he could clamp with his eyebrow and cheek, he sort of just "popped it on his eye", to inspect whatever he was working on. A very happy memory. I miss my grandpa. If it were my choice, I'd want to see every single one of those coins close up in all angles, and if that video would be three hours long, I'd be still watching intently. All this, just to say, that was awesome to see, thank you! 🥰
@user-gd9xf9zs9r6 ай бұрын
Find them quite often in the uk metal detecting.
@gailjohnston61026 ай бұрын
Interesting, leaves a lot of questions.
@michaelbreski73566 ай бұрын
Hey Alex would electrolysis work? You can make a small tank pretty easy with an old battery charger.
@nelliehedrick31476 ай бұрын
Very interesting....❤
@GSXR750ization6 ай бұрын
Real interesting to watch. I know cleaning old coins is usually a huge no no. But like these being just not identifiable junk I'm sure you cannot go backwards. For people like me who aren't as worried about investment value and just fascinated in holding something close to 2000 years old is very cool. If you are actually to get your money back would be super interested. To hold a coin that could have been in circulation while Jesus walked to earth would be super interesting to me. The opportunity to see something that he could have seen. Not the exact coin but just the image. Really cool.
@scotmhead6 ай бұрын
Cleaning is almost always necessary for ancient coins, except for gold coins they will all have need for conserving. Especially bronze coins, the goal there is to gently remove the dirt and mineralization slowly over time (sometimes days, sometimes it takes months or years) to reveal the coin with its patina intact. Its an enjoyable hobby but the coins available to conserve these days are typically not very interesting coins, just late Roman bronzes of which there are millions upon millions.
@loucilehall92816 ай бұрын
How about putting the rough one in a fresh batch of the rust remover and they may be better
@caladonia686 ай бұрын
It is probably Theodosious and Justina. He was the last Byzantine Emperor to rule over a sort of unified Empire. His wife Justina was a co-ruler who helped keep him in power during the nucca riots.
@caladonia686 ай бұрын
BTW this is Alex and Amanda from Leavenworth.
@verawelshclark10506 ай бұрын
Awesome
@margaretlynch14946 ай бұрын
🙋♀️❤️. Be careful! Coins are addicting! ❤️❤️❤️
@huntercohen4613Ай бұрын
That was actually a really nice Emperor Aurelian Antoninianus coin
@nefariumxxx6 ай бұрын
On the junky ones there is no real harm in using a 9v or 12v wallwart / phone charger to perform electrolytic cleaning on them. I used to do it often. Just put the negative lead alligator clipped on the coin and the positive lead on a sacrificial metal object like old junk spoon or maybe a carbon rod if you have one. Leave them sitting in a cup of salt water, perhaps one tablespoon salt per cup. The coin will fizz with bubbles like alka seltzer and after ten minutes the crud just falls right off. Use more salt if you don't see fizzing start. Don't breath the vapors and wear gloves because of hydrogen gas and chromium being released. Pull the coin out every ten minutes and scrub with a plastic brush on a piece of wood in the sink. It will make a mess. Repeat the fizzy process a few times per coin to see what you have. After that I would throw them in a vibratory tumbler with (dry) black walnut shell grit for a few days. It really scrubs them and can create a more natural looking surface / glossy patina. Walnut shell grit is sold for cleaning brass shells for people who do reloading of ammo. Don't use the electrolytic procedure on silver plated coins because it will remove whatever remains of the silver.
@amysimpson6466 ай бұрын
If you put the solution and the coins in a old crockpot and leave them, the solution will work better and faster. Leave it in a well ventilated area to be safe.
@DawnDavidson6 ай бұрын
OMG! You are going to clean the coins?! I hope it’s with nothing more than a brush and some water.
@glenagarrett47046 ай бұрын
By accident I discovered a nice cleaner/polish for copper and silver, Mrs Meyers Clean Day Cream Cleaner with a soft toothbrush. It's a baking soda formula, works great on my copper and silver jewelry and pennies to remove light patina/tarnish and restore shine. I haven't tried it on really heavy copper patina but it worked well on a piece of blackened silver.
@corricatt6 ай бұрын
excellent advice!!!
@lindagarner13206 ай бұрын
16:00 I see you have the Pyrex Starburst on display.🇨🇦
@tomsmith74296 ай бұрын
The Alex version of the TikTok trend: 'This is my Roman Empire'
@flameguy341622 күн бұрын
Hundreds of millions of people died, while those pieces of struck metal stayed under the ground.
@laurareutter69286 ай бұрын
Interesting project but please use a toothbrush or bamboo skewers instead of metal for picking at the coins.
@patdriver56966 ай бұрын
You did very well young man. Perhaps using toothpicks for cleaning would be process you develop, for the restoration of the coins. Nevertheless, they are your coins now. It was a great find. Well done!
@xanselmox4 ай бұрын
(7:00) thats a fine coin!
@harleytwincam26 ай бұрын
The unidentified coin looks very similar to a gold coin with Leo IV The Khazar and Constantine VI from 778 AD I found on Thomas Numismatics.
@-Slinger-6 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could get some of the persistent crusting off by heating the coins and dropping them in cold water. Thermal shock the crap off :D
@crunchyfrog5556 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea na dprobably worth experimenting with. I might give it a go myself. Of course you'd have to be careful, but it could indeed help.
@michaelripley45286 ай бұрын
Not to much heat though🤷🏼♂️ Could be a funny experiment finding the balance… If the metal does not getting a blueing… Cooper reacts very fast on heat, and that blueing Can be hard to remove without hard polish🤷🏼♂️ Like his result though coin people might go🤯VANDALISM🤣 Most important is to rinse of with water to stop the process after that chem removal
@joshuajones9035Ай бұрын
rest in piece to any patina, plus that metal brush probably did a great job of tearing up some nice coins, its a shame when people who aren't know ledged in a hobby go and tear up pieces that someone with better knowledge could have done a really good job with
@dianeroseberry62546 ай бұрын
I looked online. Is it possible the coin you were wondering about is a Heraclius 613 ad Byzantine hexagram coin?
@ViKee0106 ай бұрын
It just amazes me to imagine who once held those coins in their hands. Just a person. Maybe even a Dad. But would you think they could have thought when holding it, who one day, would hold it again? I hope you get some info on these Alex. Just really fascinating. ✌🏻🤍
@Treebronx6 ай бұрын
I rather buy a lot then one old coin I find the history interesting and seeing something different then it being uncleaned