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I wish you did a separate tier list for casual gamers that wont have those Archboss OP weapons or just wont "p2w" in TL...

Thank you for all the content over the years... be it bdo, LostArk, TL or whatever... It's always good quality stuff you put out there. And not like 10 Tier lists within the last week just to fetch more viewers, like a shitload of other channels push out right now... Keep up the good work. And i wish you a lovely global-start in 2 months 🙂

Watched this being recorded, had HIGH hopes that this list would help me finally Settle on my Class Pick... But NOOO... BOTH my top picks have the SAME Scores (High scores at that!) so... Thanks for the Great Video that didn't help ME at all, lolrip... teehee... TL BETA HYPE!

Totally new to this game (interested due to my GW2 WvW love) and this was really useful. Thanks guys!!

I guess you'll have to do another tierlist once they release next update in KR haha

so does it matter which weapon you have set as your primary and secondary? for example is SNS GS better than GS SNS or the other way around?

Which weapon combos are good/trash without the Archboss weapons?

Epic tier list, thanks!! Thumbs up.

Another Bow/Staff issue that can disappoint some players is the lack of mobility. The passives requires to not move to max out the dps

I know you didn't go over Staff/Wand dps but where would that land for PvE?

Watch in live too, i think that video will help me to choose weapons xD nice video kanon

I'm new, I really enjoyed watching this, it was long but interesting, I'm coming from deceased new world, I hope you do another video near global release with the upcoming skill update if it changes alot of the builds, I'm torn between sns greatsword and crossbow dagger.

Wand/sns with wand in main hand or sns as main you were talking about? Thank you in advance 🙏🏻

Thank you for this video. It represents my idea of what I want to play.

Very good video, thanks for this content. I have a question that I haven't seen anyone address, does it matter to do the build if I have, for example, daggers in my main hand and a crossbow in my secondary hand and vice versa? I have seen guides and according to the order of the weapons, different abilities are assigned and I want to be sure of the differences to choose the order correctly,what position is better un dagger and crossbow? thank you!!

Are you able to build into 3 weapons? For example can you play sword n shield / greatsword and also level up a wand for later use?

@Kanon, how does Wrice have Inject Venom on his first skill slot and Lighting Infusion on his last? It's the same skill but Lighting Infusion is a skill expression.. :/

Do you have any ideas how the spear is gonna play? I would love some Dragoon stuff from ffxiv. However, the class I am looking forward to the most is the Redmage surely. Some spells for range dsp and heals, a rapier for close combat.

to sum up since you want to be efficient theres literrally only 3 "classes" : tank "knight" (shield with gs or wand for high survability), healer "mage" (staff wand for support) and dps "rogue" (dagger with cb for high crit).

So casters are unplayable atm as dps ? Kinda sad.... WE need more caster weapons...

hi, how good is a full evasion tank sns/dagger after the patch. i search some infos but all what i see ist oneshot staff/dagger crossbow/dagger or gs/dagger. is the time over for outtanking someone and the game is works pvp wise only with this 3 wombocombo oneshot classes. have sns dagger any kill/survival potential? hope for a answer. thx

I continue to be undecided, in a start, Leveling, where I wanted to use sword and shield and then at 50 move to a Paladin build, would it be better to use daggers or greatsword? I've used both lightning daggers, poison daggers, and ice greatswords, but which is better at leveling?

Does it matter which weapon you use primary? For example SnS/GS or GS/SnS? Between this combination which is better?

Shield sword + wand is a healer or a tank in pve dungeons?

Is bow/wand seriously THAT BAD? I was planning on playing bow/wand as a support/healer while still maintaining a bit of damage and range via the bow. The way this list explains it is basically "Don't bother." after it's all summed up. I get that Staff/Wand or Wand/Staff is going to be better because of the MP related passives and stuff, but is it seriously the difference between a 1 out of 5 for bow/wand and a 5 out of 5 for staff/wand? Something seems really odd about that to me.

If someone is playing with a controller like on console, would that be particularly limiting for certain combos? Like Crossbow/Dagger for example. Which combo would feel best on a controller?

Does the Bellandir xbow still usable after nerf? how much tick (so stack x3) per second does it?

great info. how to made money ? any passive income ? afk activitys , best spots ?

We didn't need dps in L2 because you down people in 0.5sec xD Jokes aside I haven't played TL yet but I feel this is a great vid to have an overview of the interclass meta and their respective possibilities/roles. From everything being said I get the feeling in a group theres a lot of value in varying classes rather than just ctrl c ctrl v the same meta build on everyone, at least in small scale pvp ? Ie bow staff + bow dagger would be of more use than 2 bow staff overall, am I wrong to think that ?

I tried it last night I have to say im very intrigued

IM BALD

is this before the skill update or after?

Trying to find a good video on how hard is it to respec in this game. I don't mean stat points but to change one or both weapons you character use. Like I start as a staff/wand healer and then I realize I don't like it and I want to be a sns and dagger. Is it impossible? hard? easy?

Why can't I find the rating or any reviews of "Greatsword / Bow" ? 🤓 Can't you play that combo? 🤔 Has anyone tried it?

so other than the tank even in dungeons the dps should have at least 1 ranged weapon?

why there is no dagger main user? they always pick dagger as secondary only?

How about a great sword and wand? Is this viable

Question here. What the different if I pick GS+Sns instead of Sns+GS??? Hope you can see this!!

Greatsword aoe is crazy now

How will the update affect these takes?

Guys, would be Great to update information about Your opinions, maybe at least as a similar table, with skill adjustments from latest update. Plan to start playing on of.server in EU, so want to get deeper in our duo party build. Have been planning to run as SNS/dagger and Wand/staff. Now, with skill adjustments would like to know bout overall changes. Thank You

when is the new tier list coming?

Can we get an update on This since T&L 2.0 released?

As someone who never played T&L and hasnt really looked into it much all the abbreviations and most of the terms used dont really make sense to me, not a very newbie friendly video. Feels like it was made for people who are already invested and are playing the game currently.

ima go bow /staff to be a pve hero at the start getting lots of groups and invites to raids then switch to a dagger as a side weapon later on

i might rock bow staff on obt well see sounds spicy... but will go staff / dagger on release for bomber mansss

I wish you would have discussed Staff/Wand DPS. That's almost exclusively why I checked out this video.

LETTTSS GOOOOO!! Ty Kanon

I've always enjoyed 2 handed weapons kinda sad that there are no 2-handed hammer builds, but hearing that sns is this busted worries me because I was thinking of playing it, but the impending nerf is coming.

any guide build for the bow staff?

That was cool to listen to

Kanoldge & 2 gigachads made a video POG

Can help us with some builds for Wand/Dagger ???

what class has the most mobility ?

whats the lowest apm class?

The fact that everyone is essentially playing 2 builds is a huge turnoff. Classes and character customization is a huge part of an MMO for me.

why isn't anyone talking about Xbow-Wand

what's the rotation for xbow dagger

decisions decisions very hard to pick the starting class

So SnS GS is the same as GS SNS? 😅 I can't get my head around this. Or what's the difference?

How difficult is it to get those boss weapons on xbow/dagger?

Xbow dggr top follow any sns build then any weapon with dgger scndary The rest i dont really care.

so good

Where is Bow GS?

After beta, everything will change....

Will this be kept updated?

Damn.. you fucked up twice in one video. You didn't include healers and blew it off like it's not worth your time. You also scoffed at my beloved Tarisland? 😮😅😂

hate this video. I had a plan what i want to play, and now after watching i want to play it all. Literaly.

the moment I saw that the game is like new world(weapon based), lost all interest

Tier lists for beta tests now lmao?! Well I love the passion but all this is going to change with the new update to runes, skills, and artifacts in global launch.

Staff/Wand is the only magic dps in the game sadly, and you wont see me healing anyone ever with it :P Kinda sad its treated as a healer.... untill they add more mage weapons there is really nothing you can pair it with (And no Bow its not magic weapon)

I already see it coming 98% are going to be xbow/dagger.. how exciting

How the hell would you know that? Have you played at least 50h with each class? If no, your opinion is useless

3hr videooo 🧐🧐🧐

This will most likely be obsolete and irrelevant tier list after 24th. The new progression system might change certain builds and classes significantly.

i guess the name of teh game can be tank and liberty xd

So random question but the best of the best is sword shield and wand ? Or just great sword sword and shield??? I’m meta player so I wanna play tier 1 or tier 0

DUUUNNAAAAMISSSSSSSSSS

outdated. make a new one

Credit card is meta

These are weapons, not classes lol

Korean games are known for their imbalance towards daggers. They almost never severely cut (nerf) anything for strong classes and almost never greatly buff weak ones. During PVP tests the game was terribly unbalanced. The strongest were dagers and tanks.

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LEST GOOOO

Credit card is your best meta in lineage games

well, this Tierlist got outdated really fast. So this is before the big patch.

In short: there aren't even 10 viable classes and if you insist you won't be accepted into guilds or groups.😅😅😅😅

Class tier lists ruin games. Let people play the game how they want

crossbow dagger 5 in gvg? 4K views in 8 hours? please spam it euro boys, you'll lose this game once again, as all the other games before. bellandir only in your dreams this way

Standard click bait video, no Europe version for ps5. F..ng click bait