Cursive handwriting is dying. But some politicians refuse to accept it.

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8 жыл бұрын

The bizarre fight over cursive handwriting, explained in 2 minutes.
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Eleven US states have either passed laws or amended the Common Core curriculum to require teachers to cover cursive handwriting in elementary schools. This came in response to the Common Core standards, released in 2010, which require keyboarding skills, but do not mention handwriting or cursive specifically. Advocates for cursive instruction worry that kids will not be able to read founding documents like the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence if they don't learn cursive. But it appears that they are fighting the inevitable.
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@ukeleledotlove
@ukeleledotlove 8 жыл бұрын
I will forever be cursed with a half cursive, half print hybrid penmanship.
@OverLordthe1st
@OverLordthe1st 8 жыл бұрын
OMG yes but I don't mind I gotten use to it and low key like it
@kramdwar
@kramdwar 8 жыл бұрын
+Emma Cox I literally (like 2 seconds ago) just realized I write the same way
@Nif3
@Nif3 8 жыл бұрын
+Emma Cox Know that somewhere out there, I share your pain every day of my life.
@mysteriousmango6467
@mysteriousmango6467 8 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@Deadlyaztec27
@Deadlyaztec27 8 жыл бұрын
Same.
@sinabonz8108
@sinabonz8108 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps dying in the US but where I live everyone writes in cursive
@bahamakazi
@bahamakazi 5 жыл бұрын
Smdumpster it really sucks I love to write in cursive but no one can read it :/
@sinabonz8108
@sinabonz8108 5 жыл бұрын
Cali Man oh my bad, let me correct that
@sinabonz8108
@sinabonz8108 5 жыл бұрын
jake black I don’t think anything truly dies because their will always be a minority that still does things that are “obsolete” and practicality doesn’t have to be the reason for something to stay, some people would just like to write in cursive for the fun of it.
@griotrott3790
@griotrott3790 5 жыл бұрын
Observing the "best" handwriting today I think this is inferior to the best examples from that of the past BUT I regard the efforts to produce better stuff on boards and "showcards" cursive style by the best of todays exponents has developed and is to my mind superior. to that we did in the past. Just my opinion !
@jocelyncooper1738
@jocelyncooper1738 5 жыл бұрын
Bahamakazi none of my classmates can read my handwriting so I have to write in print. I feel you.
@megaagentj2248
@megaagentj2248 3 жыл бұрын
I personally find cursive just faster because you need to take less breaks.
@Iris-ft3lr
@Iris-ft3lr 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's so much faster! I always write cursive, it makes my handwriting neat
@rubenaalexander5007
@rubenaalexander5007 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the reason my handwriting is so untidy is because I write quickly. It's "cursive" because well, I learned to write that way, but also because all my letters are joined together and I don't feel like lifting the pen off the paper.
@jamiegreenberg8476
@jamiegreenberg8476 3 жыл бұрын
for me cursive actually takes more time bc i have to remember how to write certain letters and it makes my garbage handwriting look even worse haha
@jackielam195
@jackielam195 3 жыл бұрын
I write with a hybrid of regular and cursive, so I can write fast but people can also read it
@adina4718
@adina4718 3 жыл бұрын
hebrew "cursive": *blinks*
@AelwynMr
@AelwynMr 2 жыл бұрын
In Italy this often happens: pupils are taught cursive in elementary school. Then their cursive deteriorates and becomes illegible. By middle school, they switch to print. Then in high school as they need to take notes quickly and not lifting the pen is just more comfortable, they start joining letters in their own way and in fact develop a new cursive that is illegible to anybody but (sometimes) themselves. As a teacher.
@ceve
@ceve 2 жыл бұрын
This is me
@YellawayHD
@YellawayHD 2 жыл бұрын
This is the same thing that happens in Ireland. We’re taught cursive, but eventually we just switch to whatever hybrid of cursive and print or solely cursive or solely print that works best for us.
@aretorta
@aretorta 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same in Portugal. Personally, I use type-font to distinguish formulas and technical thing amidst the text. It comes in handy when you're a chemist and people need to recognize formulas quickly amidst your notes.
@phantommangagirl
@phantommangagirl 2 жыл бұрын
This is both of my parents.
@LlamasAtMidnight
@LlamasAtMidnight 2 жыл бұрын
Me
@adub4ever
@adub4ever 8 жыл бұрын
We should be teaching the metric system, not cursive handwriting.
@shuaizhao4538
@shuaizhao4538 8 жыл бұрын
Can't agree more.
@rideroundandstuff
@rideroundandstuff 8 жыл бұрын
+adub4ever In Europe (and I guess in many other countries too) we just learn both ;-)
@raimaelsmag4417
@raimaelsmag4417 8 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't appreciate you switching to metric after it took me so long to memorize that 1mile = 1,6km. All that effort spent for nothing?
@emma99hg
@emma99hg 8 жыл бұрын
+adub4ever Both should be taught.
@CookieMonsterNoVeggi
@CookieMonsterNoVeggi 8 жыл бұрын
+adub4ever But the great thing about the Metric system is that there isn't much to figure out. everything is base 10.
@randomcomment232
@randomcomment232 3 жыл бұрын
this must be an American thing, everyone in the UK at least writes cursive
@jeanmariegaillard545
@jeanmariegaillard545 3 жыл бұрын
pupils are learning print writing in most of the key stages now.
@laking09_57
@laking09_57 3 жыл бұрын
Most kids in primary write in print and in secondary there’s a large variation in the way ppl write
@tiffanyzhang4544
@tiffanyzhang4544 3 жыл бұрын
In second grade in Maryland, you had to write in print and only print
@natasha-ut7si
@natasha-ut7si 3 жыл бұрын
@@laking09_57 at my secondary about 3 quarters of students write in print and only about one quarter in cursive... I use cursive because I find it faster
@mahalisyarifuddin
@mahalisyarifuddin 3 жыл бұрын
Indonesian here, and children here are not taught to write in cursive anymore nowadays compared to my era.
@samuelzachariev
@samuelzachariev 3 жыл бұрын
Europeans watching this: 👁👄👁 People who write in Cyrillic watching this: 👁👄👁
@rifting1224
@rifting1224 3 жыл бұрын
Cyrillic cursives are just whole another level...
@Sam67515
@Sam67515 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still shocked that America is like this .... I’m european
@MrIse2
@MrIse2 3 жыл бұрын
Someone who thought cyrillic cursive was The Only Proper Way to write, and, after twenty-ish years of turning fansy curves into scribbled mess just to write things faster, realised that writing without it makes everything faster and readable: -_-
@jackgreen9917
@jackgreen9917 3 жыл бұрын
​@Cookie Monster my favourite cyrillic cursive is шиншила решила вызвать машину
@acasualcactus5878
@acasualcactus5878 2 жыл бұрын
Лыжник зовут душа звание вообще вдвоём за дулами дул Фрейд.
@sm_mikhailovna5126
@sm_mikhailovna5126 3 жыл бұрын
"Cursive handwriting is dying" My school in the Philippines where everyone is writing only in cursive: 👁️👄👁️
@bruh-zn8ju
@bruh-zn8ju 3 жыл бұрын
We're in online school bruh
@sm_mikhailovna5126
@sm_mikhailovna5126 3 жыл бұрын
@@bruh-zn8ju before covid-19 bruh
@user-yh7nf3qe8u
@user-yh7nf3qe8u 3 жыл бұрын
Haitian school cursive only
@winchesterchua3390
@winchesterchua3390 3 жыл бұрын
I only wrote cursive in 2nd and 3rd grade cuz it was required. As I grew older I went back to print handwriting.
@jinri_p1042
@jinri_p1042 3 жыл бұрын
you're probs in grade school then bc we definitely don't write in curvise once we're in junior high - college
@bejaromero2523
@bejaromero2523 6 жыл бұрын
I think cursive, once you master it, is way faster than print-your hand never leaves the page, you never have a disconnect, there is just a smooth flow from one word to the next
@natalieandrew7573
@natalieandrew7573 5 жыл бұрын
Blessed Rose exactly. I learnt cursive when I was in primary school when I lived in the UK, and I’m one of the only kids at my school (I’m in 10th grade) now.
@fangirlfortheages5940
@fangirlfortheages5940 5 жыл бұрын
I do print but my hand never leaves the page either way so it’s just messy
@katya_fhs
@katya_fhs 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is people don't need to do a lot of handwriting nowadays, so most will never master it. Most of the handwriting people do nowadays is to fill out forms (which most of the times require that you do them in print), write out notes, short messages, label stuff, but it's so minimal that it doesn't really matter which method is faster: print is almost always easier to read.
@maxdax1966
@maxdax1966 5 жыл бұрын
Love cursive writing.. Helped my dyslexia as I use the more creative side of my brain. Slows down my thinking and hand to eye coordination helps memorise the facts I'm writing. The process is promotes mindfulness as well as creative thinking. Im surprised the producer says there is little evidence in favour of cursive writing. A quick KZfaq search though not particularly scientific brings up a huge amount of pro handwriting Ted talks etc.
@ollierowan9767
@ollierowan9767 5 жыл бұрын
Natalie Andrew tbh I always found that for me, cursive takes longer because I prefer for it to look “”correct”” and so I spend a while on each letter. plus I make more spelling mistakes when doing cursive. I don’t know why.
@pierreboillot9296
@pierreboillot9296 3 жыл бұрын
In France everybody writes in cursive, we're taught to write cursive at a young age so it's natural for almost everyone.
@yurisantos8125
@yurisantos8125 3 жыл бұрын
in Brazil too, i believe that only in america they don't write like this we use cursive for everything and its kinda weird see a person that don't use it
@meameam
@meameam 3 жыл бұрын
In Italy too. It sounds so strange when American people say they can't read cursive, let alone write it.
@anyasolovey17
@anyasolovey17 3 жыл бұрын
Same in Russian speaking countries, all the homework we ever had was always written by us in cursive. The only time we were allowed to write in print was English class 😅 but cursive looks really great, very elegant, for both Cyrillic and Latin 😊
@Bakura-wb6ds
@Bakura-wb6ds 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a smart idea compared to the USA where they teach it to us after we learn to write print. (Like if the government is so concerned about the students writing in cursive then they should make us learn cursive at a young age)
@sm_mikhailovna5126
@sm_mikhailovna5126 3 жыл бұрын
Here in the Philippines too
@தமிழோன்
@தமிழோன் 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 90s kid who studied in India. I'm not sure about now, but in the 90s, cursive writing was compulsory in the Indian schools (at least in Tamil Nadu). Because of that, I still write in cursive. When I wrote a farewell note to one of my ex-colleagues, my other officemates bantered me saying "oh look, a royal scroll written by Prince Mithun himself". 😂
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 10 ай бұрын
Good for you! Shrug off their jest and let not their banter deter your value.
@Ryan197_
@Ryan197_ 7 ай бұрын
Cursive is still compulsory, at least here in Delhi
@TakiMitsuha2016
@TakiMitsuha2016 4 ай бұрын
​@@Ryan197_not only delhi all india
@Ryan197_
@Ryan197_ 4 ай бұрын
@@TakiMitsuha2016 yeah.
@Dimension2364
@Dimension2364 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany it is totaly normal to learn cursive handwiting. I like it a lot. Not only because it helps me to write faster (especially while taking notes) but also because research shows it‘s positive effects on the brain. Cursive handwriting activates as many brain-regions as playing an instrument. It helps in developing complex thoughts and creative ideas.
@tamastasi428
@tamastasi428 3 жыл бұрын
Literally every modern country except for the US: *uses cursive very frequently* Vox: Let's face it...cursive is dying.
@tamastasi428
@tamastasi428 3 жыл бұрын
Can somebody explain me btw how is writing in a more printed form faster than writing in cursive? Cursive is cursive because it's faster to write
@joshyd7327
@joshyd7327 3 жыл бұрын
its an american channel
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD 3 жыл бұрын
@@tamastasi428 It's only faster if you're more used to it, otherwise there's no reason why printed couldn't be equally fast.
@Ashwin-ksr
@Ashwin-ksr 3 жыл бұрын
@@CapitanNaufrago And also learn division to use Imperial system.
@howdy01
@howdy01 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Australia and they don’t use cursive. We use what’s called ‘at least readable’
@TheRealAThom
@TheRealAThom 7 жыл бұрын
I think cursive should be taught in art class instead of english. Typography is a wide art form, including calligraphy, hand lettering, type design, page layout, and much more.
@thatone8432
@thatone8432 6 жыл бұрын
Huh, that’s actually a good idea
@markovnikovaddition5226
@markovnikovaddition5226 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea - I use cursive because I like it, can do it quickly, and I like the aesthetic result. I do wish they had an option to learn more about typography as an artform - we only got as much as "No Comic Sans allowed for typed assignments".
@NatureShy
@NatureShy 6 жыл бұрын
To be honest, general graphic design classes should be taught as a gen ed common core subject. It’s sickening that so many people don’t understand basic fundamentals of design, and yet we go through extravagant amounts of energy to teach students higher levels of math-math that is utterly useless in life unless you are a mathematician or scientist. Unlike high levels of math, design is used in virtually every subject taught in schools. It is seen in every aspect of your everyday life, and not understanding basic fundamentals of design detracts from one’s ability to comprehend the world.
@WolfieRAWKs
@WolfieRAWKs 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, advanced algebra, trigonometry, and yes, even calculus, are just as present in our daily lives even if you (personally, but also the general population) don't recognize it at first glance. Physics is all about that kind of stuff, and we all move and are affected by our world, so math is rather important. Math also gives us a better understanding of our financial status. Frankly, I was extremely upset/disappointed that we weren't required to learn things related to saving money, doing taxes, or buying stocks. However, I do agree that a general education graphic design course would be an extremely beneficial course. I saw a resumé written entirely comic sans.
@thackythac
@thackythac 6 жыл бұрын
I could see that too. Art class seems reasonable for teaching cursive.
@Dan-kr9bm
@Dan-kr9bm 3 жыл бұрын
It's simply quicker and more comfortable than writing out every single letter individually. What are you on about with the only reasons being tradition and patriotism or whatever?
@sofijasofija2867
@sofijasofija2867 3 жыл бұрын
Plus, it's like learning about art history, makes you cultured
@stephcurry9524
@stephcurry9524 3 жыл бұрын
How about we read things that are actually legible instead of just guessing
@dddCL
@dddCL 3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@gimmeabreakplease3634
@gimmeabreakplease3634 2 жыл бұрын
I learned cursive in Elementary school. But as a teen I decided I wanted to improve my cursive handwriting to form a better signature. I ended up looking up cursive alphabets online and practicing them, the result of this was just a combination of all the methods, which too be honest looks really unique and somewhat informal. I'm really glad I did it to be honest, I have a style that's probably like no other.
@Sunevey
@Sunevey 4 ай бұрын
Handwriting style reveal?
@amandasmith593
@amandasmith593 8 жыл бұрын
In elementary school, my teachers told me that I had to learn cursive because it was faster and because it would be required in high school and in college. In my case, neither of these turned out to be true. I wrote slower when writing cursive because I couldn't legibly write in cursive unless I went at a snail's pace. Writing at a normal pace turned my script into an indecipherable series of loops. Once I got to high school, my teachers all required that essays be either typed or printed. They would not even accept cursive. The same was true in college.
@igotpixelated7829
@igotpixelated7829 8 жыл бұрын
Idk how it works for others but I write faster in cursive.
@0Clewi0
@0Clewi0 7 жыл бұрын
Probably for people that has bad handwritting (myself included) cursive is too impractical, personally I learned handwriting first and struggle a lot with calligrafy and writting speed until 6-7 grade where we learn printing. Now at university test are handwrited however you want and works are done on computers.
@DrewArdner
@DrewArdner 7 жыл бұрын
I personally, when handwriting anything, sort of blend a mixture of cursive techniques and print style together. I don't necessarily use cursive letters or things of the like, but rather, between certain letter combinations, I tend to blend them together, joining them with bridges or things like that, but most of the writing is just printed. I'm terribly slow at writing straight cursive, and this is just the style that developed from me learning how to write quickly and legibly for myself and to a lesser extent, others as well. It's not the prettiest writing, but it get's the job done. I have yet to run into a situation where I'm required to use cursive exclusively, unlike what I was taught would be the case throughout elementary.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 7 жыл бұрын
Looking back a lot of what I learned in primary (elementary) school was pretty much pure lies. Same in high school and college. Teachers telling me things would be a certain way when I was older that turned out to be completely not true.
@jessesimpson2509
@jessesimpson2509 7 жыл бұрын
Drew Ardner Same
@gralha_
@gralha_ 7 жыл бұрын
Is this some sort of american thing? I don't see why i would not use cursive
@livamilAVA
@livamilAVA 7 жыл бұрын
right? Why is this even an issue? Europeans all right cursive and none cursive
@blackninjamaw829
@blackninjamaw829 7 жыл бұрын
News flash: not everybody is a European, this is talking about America.
@gralha_
@gralha_ 7 жыл бұрын
***** The whole reason for cursive to exist is that it's faster and easier
@gralha_
@gralha_ 7 жыл бұрын
***** But I did
@Lewisking50
@Lewisking50 7 жыл бұрын
I learned print first, then cursive and wrote with it for 4-5 years but switched back to print because my handwriting was so horrible, the teachers could barely read it. (I have very shaky hands)
@Melissa0774
@Melissa0774 2 жыл бұрын
I actually learned the Palmer method in third grade and that was in a New Jersey public school in 1995. And I'm glad I did because I like the extra loops on the letters. I developed a distinctive way of signing my name, where I make the loop on the M into a huge spiral and sometimes I add a huge spiral to the beginning letter of my last name too. I would've never discovered that if I'd been taught the boring D'nelian method, which is what they taught in the school I transferred to the next year. That second school also had a writing curriculum called "Handwriting Without Tears" and when I saw that I thought, "Give me a break! Who is crying when their learning to write? Are they serious?" My teacher even managed to fit in teaching us how to write calligraphy too, that year. I don't get why so many people think the Palmer method and teaching cursive in general is such a big deal. And I was struggling with an undiagnosed learning disability at the time, yet I still thought that. It's important for kids to learn cursive so that they can make a legal signature, that over time, will become distinctive and unique for each person.
@MarvinClarence
@MarvinClarence 2 жыл бұрын
That’s great! The Palmer method is a derivative of Spencerian script, so we can see where these ‘extra loops’ came from. As for me, I picked up Spencerian script during my free time and I’ve been using it for many purposes ever since!
@childrenofscarlet6164
@childrenofscarlet6164 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see a Palmer method writer. I’m not from the USA but I’m intrigued from seeing a bunch of palmer method alphabets on the internet because i think they are so elegant looking. It’s pretty hard learning the pure arm movement that the manuals demand and now i basically just write by using a combination of fingers, wrist, and a bit of arm movement. I’ve followed a bunch of channels on this site about palmer method such as perfect biscuits who is like me, learned the method himself and made some tutorials on the movements. I also really love the look of spencerian script and i’m currently trying to learn it little by little with an oblique holder.
@Melissa0774
@Melissa0774 2 жыл бұрын
@@childrenofscarlet6164 I don't know what you're doing, but for the type of writing I was taught, you don't really need to do any special arm movements. It just involves adding some extra loops to the letters, which is not a big deal.
@childrenofscarlet6164
@childrenofscarlet6164 2 жыл бұрын
@@Melissa0774 idk, i have been learning from old manuals that are available online and some youtubers and they insist on doing the script primarily with your whole arm (no fingers or wrist, like writing it as if your arm is some sort of a machine the moves the pen). Nowadays i don’t do it anymore but back when i was first learning it felt like i was re-learning how to write and it made me really frustrated (the reason i just write with a combination of fingers and wrist most of the times these days).
@Melissa0774
@Melissa0774 2 жыл бұрын
@@childrenofscarlet6164 I never heard of the arm movement thing. I don't think it matters how you hold the pen or pencil or how you move. All that matters is that you can make legible writing that looks the way you want it to, in a way that feels comfortable. My mom used to tell me I'm holding the pencil the wrong way when I write because apparently, I don't pinch it between my thumb and pointer finger, I guess. But no one else ever told me that. Just do whatever works for you.
@thallesbragalopesdearaujo9126
@thallesbragalopesdearaujo9126 2 жыл бұрын
Dying in the US. In Brazil, where I was born, live and teach Portuguese, everyone write in cursive, even the small children.
@paulinaruiz928
@paulinaruiz928 7 жыл бұрын
It's more important to teach children to learn how to read cursive than to write cursive in my opinion
@darlingthimblemoon4658
@darlingthimblemoon4658 6 жыл бұрын
Burg Skeletal, my children get sent home homework that asks for their spelling to be put into fancy letters... It's a pain because in the state we live in cursive isn't required. If they knew how to write in cursive they could read my handwriting, also. I can wrote in print but I have to really focus on it or my hand will want to swirl and loop the letters. It isn't stupid...there is a barrier between my children and I because some moron thought that it shouldn't be required anymore.
@aikisu13
@aikisu13 6 жыл бұрын
Burg Skeletal phones and books and computers have their own way for writing that font that we read isn't natural to how it is easiest for us to write. Look that the Russian language they write one way but the text printed is another. It is the same for us cursive is how we are meant to write and if children were only taught to write that way It wouldn't be an issue
@deathofgames694
@deathofgames694 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. No reason to get rid of it.
@evelyngomez6560
@evelyngomez6560 6 жыл бұрын
Paulina Ruiz then who will write the script to be able to read
@deathofgames694
@deathofgames694 6 жыл бұрын
Why are we letting common core tell us how to write? Cursive still exists all over the place. Youre just going to have people at a disadvantage if you dont teach them. This video probably sponsored by common core
@tonipwneroni9846
@tonipwneroni9846 8 жыл бұрын
When I was in primary school, (private institution, 1990s and early 2000s, Australia) if we handed in our work without using cursive, it wasn't marked...... Now everyone always comments on how "fancy" my handwriting is. A Swedish exchange student once described it as "the penmanship of a elven princess" lol
@ericstorm4613
@ericstorm4613 7 жыл бұрын
Show, show!
@TheImpiroGirl
@TheImpiroGirl 7 жыл бұрын
This was the same thing for me in the early 2000s in Denmark, this seems pretty common
@Cat-eq5jj
@Cat-eq5jj 7 жыл бұрын
I'm in 8th grade right now and in primary school all the teachers would go on about cursive being really important in high school and that we had to learn it. Now two years later I've never had to worry about it.
@SpaceElf
@SpaceElf 7 жыл бұрын
I learned to write exclusively in cursive at an Australian Catholic School. I write it perfectly. Most of the time I have to read it for people around my age, 22.
@shabdulishinde3685
@shabdulishinde3685 7 жыл бұрын
Toni Pwneroni we had a similar rule too but i think it was because i studied in a convent school i think. I'm indian.
@justinian-the-great
@justinian-the-great 3 жыл бұрын
You know, it's even weirder here in Serbia. As serbian language uses 2 writing systems (and it's the only language in the Western world to do so), Cyrillic and Latin, we have a strange paradox, where cursive Cyrillic is used often, but like NOBODY writes cursive Latin! In fact, I'm not even sure that most of the people know how to write cursive Latin, although of course we all know how to read it!
@1000eau
@1000eau 3 жыл бұрын
So, how do you do in everyday life ? Does it means everyone uses 2 alphabets ? Does it depends on regions (like some region using latin and the other cyrillic) or does it depends on context ?
@zoltanlak4912
@zoltanlak4912 2 жыл бұрын
@@1000eau Depends on regions, at least I saw more cyrillic signs, menus at restaurants, ads, etc. in middle and south Serbia, but on the north, there's less cyrillic and more latin, but legal documents, applications, new educational books, ads are almost always in cyrillic. I'm a minority here, so a use 3 alphabets and two languages in the everyday life, so it's a bit complicated.
@vojtastruhar8950
@vojtastruhar8950 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone in Czech Republic writes cursive too. And I think it is taught as a primary option in schools, that is in like 1st grade. I personally use it because it is faster. Not necessarily prettier, but faster and still quite readable.
@valarkov6455
@valarkov6455 8 ай бұрын
Vsaď boty. 🇨🇿
@NatexWarrior
@NatexWarrior 5 жыл бұрын
"What are you talking about cursive is taught and required in my other country" Video literally only talking about the United States
@PatheticTV
@PatheticTV 3 жыл бұрын
Where I live in Hong Kong, no English is written in cursive. Never.
@alexiacaceda1421
@alexiacaceda1421 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Peru and is normal to write in cursive....
@sodium6841
@sodium6841 3 жыл бұрын
Um, are you sure? At least we still have to learn it and some of us still use it
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but like so many American things, it talks about the US as if it was the whole world. ...It's kind of a common attitude though. Here in Argentina, people from Buenos Aires always talk about things from Buenos Aires like the whole country was like that. When you're at the top...
@alexiacaceda1421
@alexiacaceda1421 3 жыл бұрын
@@sodium6841 I use it ......It's more comfortable
@SputonyPlays
@SputonyPlays 7 жыл бұрын
Middle school teacher says "Cursive is important if you want to do well in high school." Gets to high school. "You may write in print or cursive. Whatever you like." Me: -__-
@elio_fay
@elio_fay 6 жыл бұрын
Sputony Same with our school but we can't use cursive for exams.
@minecraftminertime
@minecraftminertime 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can't even use cursive in school.
@asrr62
@asrr62 6 жыл бұрын
yeah haha!!!!!!! but to this day i find cursive illegible.
@ambercolored3090
@ambercolored3090 6 жыл бұрын
who tf said that u needed to learn cursive if u wanted to be successful tf
@xxjr8axx
@xxjr8axx 3 жыл бұрын
yea a lot of my teachers lied to me too.
@lexus8018
@lexus8018 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Vox allways forgets that places outside the US exist.
@girlsquad224
@girlsquad224 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. True. This is just a very american problem.
@linwill1720
@linwill1720 2 жыл бұрын
Or, it's just made for American audiences. Hence, they showed a map of the states, not the world's countries.
@--------04
@--------04 2 жыл бұрын
@@linwill1720 yes, but they have said that in the end is useless teach at the students how to learn cursive, but if the rest of word use cursive is really this useless?
@Bender1
@Bender1 10 ай бұрын
​@@--------04Yes, it's fairly useless. How many of those countries actually matter? I mean 17% of the world speaks English, what does it matter if another country is using cursive? Unless I speak that language then it means nothing to me.
@nictheartist
@nictheartist 3 жыл бұрын
I - as a lefty - learned to write with my right hand when going to school in Germany, because it eliminated the issue of smudging when writing with a fountain pen, which, from maybe the second or third year in primary school, was the type of pen that everyone had to write with. Ballpoint pens were not allowed. When I went to high school in the US agreed around 16/17, I really enjoyed using a ballpoint pen, because I found the flow when writing a lot easier. After school, I didn't do much handwriting at all, hardly ever any cursive, for over 20 years. I recently completely relearned cursive handwriting, because I realized that I was completely incapable of writing legibly, and at reasonable speed, when writing by hand, and I've switched back to left-handed writing. It is indeed possible to write nicely with your left hand, just not with a fountain pen. It also takes practice, and if you think that your handwriting is terrible, just work on a style you like and practice. A lot.
@thegreatchaos13
@thegreatchaos13 2 жыл бұрын
You: I like the flow of ballpoint pens. Me: why am I getting hand cramps with my ballpoint pen? I am going to switch to fountain.
@Imbatmn57
@Imbatmn57 6 жыл бұрын
cursive is faster to write because you don't have to lift your pen/pencil off the paper each time
@AJJJJJJJJJJJJ
@AJJJJJJJJJJJJ 6 жыл бұрын
thats not the point ... its students that are forced to learn cursive and the fact that its pretty much hard to read
@Mxceo
@Mxceo 6 жыл бұрын
AJ GAMING its not hard to read if you know how to write it
@ifeellikeimdrowning1139
@ifeellikeimdrowning1139 6 жыл бұрын
AJ GAMING in Brazil people learn cursive first, and I didn't find it difficult, not at all
@youngzm
@youngzm 6 жыл бұрын
60-75 words per minute? Those are rookie numbers.
@lilafay6995
@lilafay6995 6 жыл бұрын
Exsacly. It's easier for me to write in cursive in class or if I'm in a hurry. Plus it seems to take more effert to write in print most of the time.
@theorosef
@theorosef 6 жыл бұрын
for some people, writing in cursive is quicker. personally, I write in non-cursive, but when I write quickly, some letters just tend to link together naturally.
@kadencewong9864
@kadencewong9864 6 жыл бұрын
faeriedoodles same
@poofbomb-minecraftmore1883
@poofbomb-minecraftmore1883 6 жыл бұрын
why does the e just naturally flow into this o? I DONT KNOW IT JUST DOES
@shelbiminer2318
@shelbiminer2318 6 жыл бұрын
Most of the time when I write the word the the he link
@agustinvenegas5238
@agustinvenegas5238 6 жыл бұрын
faeriedoodles same, but when that happens even I can't read my handwriting
@jasonlee5953
@jasonlee5953 6 жыл бұрын
Same 😂 My words could literally be written in both
@peppernation9213
@peppernation9213 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in USA in 1969 so of course I learned cursive. My son was born in 1994. I noticed he did not use cursive hardly at all. Son is now 27 yo and he still prints for the most part. Honestly I didn’t know what was happening or why he was doing it but now this video it is shedding light on the reason.
@dunexapa1016
@dunexapa1016 2 жыл бұрын
What has been lost is not just cursive handwriting but the beautiful penmanship that commonly existed on a wide scale basis. It is unquestionably with a sense of nostalgia that I look a specimens of handwriting from the earlier parts of the last century.
@JuanVilorio
@JuanVilorio 7 жыл бұрын
Ten years from now we will start writing in emoji
@richardcheese8095
@richardcheese8095 6 жыл бұрын
like the emoji movie
@Silkendrum
@Silkendrum 6 жыл бұрын
Writing in emoji? Isn't that called hieroglyphics? We are devolving!
@thelawyerdoggo
@thelawyerdoggo 6 жыл бұрын
wingdings
@MelissaPerez24
@MelissaPerez24 6 жыл бұрын
GOOD LORD NO ITS SO GROSS
@rev15clashroyale14
@rev15clashroyale14 6 жыл бұрын
They already do in Asia
@rideroundandstuff
@rideroundandstuff 8 жыл бұрын
Isn’t cursive faster? I write pretty much everything in print now that I don’t have to write much by hand anymore, but if I’d have to write an essay by hand again, I’d switch over to cursive.
@Vox
@Vox 8 жыл бұрын
+Horst Wrabetz It's faster to write if you're well-practiced. But then it takes much longer to read.
@rideroundandstuff
@rideroundandstuff 8 жыл бұрын
+Vox Yeah of course you have to be well-practiced. Like with everything else. But it definitely doesn’t take longer to read. Why would teachers want their students to write cursive then? To waste more time reading their stuff? Don’t get me wrong, I really don’t mind if cursive is taught to children or not. But your arguments seem pretty biased and not entirely thought through ;-)
@IbervilleMusic
@IbervilleMusic 8 жыл бұрын
+Arnau Mas yeah, once I had learned how to write cursive, I never wrote straight print ever again unless specifically asked to (filling forms, mainly). A combination of the two systems is the most intelligible and fast way to write. I'm not saying they should absolutely enforce it on kids, but I certainly don't regret learning it.
@Westfalll14
@Westfalll14 8 жыл бұрын
I can type 70+ words per minute. If you can write that fast I'm impressed.
@Fullchaos40
@Fullchaos40 8 жыл бұрын
+Horst Wrabetz Honesly cursive and print quickly devolve into a hybrid style. Some letters are quicker in print and others are quicker in cursive.
@Edward-qx3ev
@Edward-qx3ev 3 жыл бұрын
I could never write in cursive anyway because my hand writing was that bad...
@ericmoser8064
@ericmoser8064 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who never learned cursive, the text in this video was not easy to read
@Janpre2001
@Janpre2001 2 жыл бұрын
Because you were either never learned to write in cursive, you cannot identify many of the letters when they are in cursive.
@jacktraveller8290
@jacktraveller8290 8 жыл бұрын
As a kid (in the UK), I was taught cursive and used it all through primary school. When I got to secondary school and use of cursive was no longer enforced I went through a period of printing in capitals. Now Im an adult my handwriting is a weird mix of printing and cursive that doesnt follow any pattern, some parts of sentences are joined up, some are just capitals. Sometimes I catch myself changing from cursive to printing mid word. Oops.
@Jan96106
@Jan96106 8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Traveller According to handwriting experts, that's supposed to be a sign of intelligence. (I do the same.)
@jacktraveller8290
@jacktraveller8290 8 жыл бұрын
Hooray!
@Saggg
@Saggg 8 жыл бұрын
Imo handwriting experts are bullshit. When you thnk about it, the idea that handwriting says anything about your character is silly.
@joking2052
@joking2052 8 жыл бұрын
Same
@Jan96106
@Jan96106 8 жыл бұрын
Everything you say and do says something about your character. And others notice even if we don't.
@Trufflechip
@Trufflechip 6 жыл бұрын
I was originally taught print in 1st 2nd and 3rd grade then in 4th we spent the entire year learning how to write in cursive and now thanks to that my handwriting is a mess. It's like half cursive half print and even I can barely read it
@rikumachida4811
@rikumachida4811 6 жыл бұрын
ArtisticAlbino Me too it's so stupid
@baconwizard
@baconwizard 6 жыл бұрын
Over in England we start learning it in 2nd grade
@sajeelk
@sajeelk 6 жыл бұрын
From 2nd grade to 5th grade, we got points off for not writing in cursive, so know I also have half cursive half print handwriting
@flatplant
@flatplant 6 жыл бұрын
It's actually not stupid lots of people will mix cursive and printing together it's really whatever is most efficient for you and as long as people can understand what the shapes you're making or supposed to mean it's not really a problem
@majj6598
@majj6598 6 жыл бұрын
I learnt cursive in year 3, I think people in the UK learnt cursive around year 2-4.
@TurboKingCandy
@TurboKingCandy 2 жыл бұрын
After elementary school, I never used cursive for anything except my signature. Though, in my last year of college, I noticed my writing had evolved to fit the pace of note taking by adopting some kind of primitive version of cursive. I guess there’s some utility for hand writing, but really its that skill which is dying out anyway.
@tolemem
@tolemem 2 жыл бұрын
I have not used cursive since elementary either. When asked to sign my name for my driver's license and passport, I just printed it. My print does not connect the letters, but to maintain speed it becomes extremely illegible.
@ziji6261
@ziji6261 2 жыл бұрын
As a gen z who writes spencerian, I can't tell you how frustrating it is when someone can't read your writing.
@thegreatchaos13
@thegreatchaos13 2 жыл бұрын
Teachers: I can't read your writing. Me: HOW CAN YOU NOT READ IT? IT'S ONLY COPPERPLATE!
@GiaIsNotHere
@GiaIsNotHere Жыл бұрын
As also a gen z it really is because when I was in 2nd grade my teacher taught my class how to do cursive and that was the only class in the entire school that taught cursive (I did stop using cursive and went back to print for a couple of years cuz no one besides my mother was able do decipher cursive)so when I write in cursive now my classmates will be all confused and ask me to read out loud to them what my papers says
@Reshirami
@Reshirami 6 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the problem with cursive. I live in France and in first grade we all learned to write in cursive and to read either in cursive or print, there was nothing difficult about it. Some people decide to write in print as they get older but everyone can read cursive handwriting. When foreigners can't read my cursive handwriting it feels like they're uneducated. (I know they aren't but it's a basic thing in my country.)
@FalconFlyer75
@FalconFlyer75 6 жыл бұрын
same story with me, grew up in Canada Learned how to print first, then in Elementary school they more or less force u to do cursive, and then around middle school u get to take your pick, me personally I prefer printing but I am able to read cursive.
@MGustave
@MGustave 6 жыл бұрын
Same in the U.K. If somebodu couldnt write in cursive, even of their handwriting was terrible, theyd probably be seen as very uneducated. It really is one of the very first things we learn. Only the Americans could decide that writing in print fashion was better.
@EC2019
@EC2019 5 жыл бұрын
Thing is, there's a particular French lettering (and numbering) handwriting style which is not used anywhere else. Texts written out in French look entirely different from the cursive style we expect here in Ireland, for example. The number 1 written in the French style looks like nothing we have ever been taught, and is genuinely illegible until someone teaches you what that shape is supposed to represent. Our French teacher, though not a native speaker, had adopted this script himself and familiarised us with it. Even our French textbooks had the postcard and letter-writing samples written out in French style cursive handwriting to add authenticity. That may be more why your foreign friends can't read it, rather than them being uneducated. They just didn't "speak your language" of handwriting. Present them with the cursive form they've been exposed to locally and they will be able to read it. (Of course if their native language does not use Roman letters, forget it).
@samuelbarth1813
@samuelbarth1813 5 жыл бұрын
É Caoimhe I'm french and my american friends can read my cursive writing, so I'm not sure we have a different way of writing.
@Ju-lj5ff
@Ju-lj5ff 5 жыл бұрын
I'm French too and I totally agree. Once I had a young American teacher (in her 20s) and she couldn't read our handwriting. I'm in college, we don't use cursive but everyone has its own particular handwriting with a base of cursive, some have round or sharp handwritings with some letters in print and some in cursive. I don't think it's very difficult to read but for some reason she had a really hard time.
@ArrKayCee
@ArrKayCee 7 жыл бұрын
Instead of learning cursive we should teach kids another language in 2-4th grade.
@wtblack5
@wtblack5 7 жыл бұрын
Impossible, a 1 to 1 translation is easy to be taught in 1-2 years to 3rd graders, but not language...
@ArrKayCee
@ArrKayCee 7 жыл бұрын
totally possible. start them early as they're learning English and it works just fine. Lots of other countries do that
@shaqman5335
@shaqman5335 7 жыл бұрын
morroco teaches their kids arabic and french
@Lewisking50
@Lewisking50 7 жыл бұрын
I started learning English from 3rd grade on, helped a lot even though it was obviously not the entire language.
@imfromconnecticut4009
@imfromconnecticut4009 7 жыл бұрын
I've been learning Spanish since Kindergarten.....
@mi-y
@mi-y 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have cursive writing. But after seeing those western studytubers notes which are in print letters and overly aesthetic, I started writing in print letters to be minimal and aesthetic and now my friends, family and teachers scold me for writing like that since our boards will cut off marks if not in cursive handwriting (cuz it'll be considered good writing) I want to change my habit again ughh I'm working on it.
@thebagelboyjr9351
@thebagelboyjr9351 3 жыл бұрын
I’m the only person in my school who writes in cursive. Everyone is shocked and most people make fun of me for it D: Tbh I just like it because I can go faster without having to lift up my pencil every time for a new letter ~ I can just loop it all together - Plus it just looks nice and formal 👍
@isafox4443
@isafox4443 6 ай бұрын
It really shocks me how you can get mocked for writing in cursive! I’m French and it so common here, even those who use script don’t really notice that someone else’s handwriting is cursive But you’re so right! It’s much more faster and efficient to write that way!
@boggybolt6782
@boggybolt6782 7 жыл бұрын
i write cursive not because i like it, i do, nor because all the girls like it, but because it's much faster. it's faster for me to just write a single loooong line connecting all of the letters than every single time pull the pen up when i need to draw a different letter, or a different part of a letter.
@cindylei7393
@cindylei7393 7 жыл бұрын
I feel that writing legible cursive takes way more time. I write in print a lot faster than in cursive. I don't have all too much trouble reading cursive but I still hate reading it. With cursive, I got to go slow if anyone wants to read it. Type on the other hand, is WHAM and done.
@boggybolt6782
@boggybolt6782 7 жыл бұрын
it's the way you were taught. In my country(Croatia) cursive writing is HEAVILY encouraged, and you are forced to write it in all of your notebooks. That's why i write cursive faster. I just haven't trained that much writing normal letters.
@cindylei7393
@cindylei7393 7 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Where I'm from, I was never even taught how to hold a pencil.
@groszak1
@groszak1 7 жыл бұрын
It's faster for me just to write single letters (similar to what you read right now) than both letters and linkings. Also it's nicer. In fact, I made a computer font called "Custom Font" which is monospaced and based on my handwriting.
@groszak1
@groszak1 7 жыл бұрын
In my school in Poland I don't write cursive and I didn't have any troubles regarding writing.
@saintsnation2971
@saintsnation2971 3 жыл бұрын
Cursive was the first handwriting. My teachers be like: "I can't read your cursive handwriting!" Alo my teachers: why aren't you writing in cursive???"
@hewhoyeet4953
@hewhoyeet4953 3 жыл бұрын
In my place, its actually a nicer way to tell you that you have a bad writing
@TheGuindo
@TheGuindo 3 жыл бұрын
lol my 4th grade teacher required all of us to write all our assignments in cursive and then would complain that my cursive was too hard to read. MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr 3 жыл бұрын
Ye Almost none but one teachers do that Even today
@theragingplatypus4743
@theragingplatypus4743 3 жыл бұрын
No, cursive was not the first handwriting. Print came long before cursive. Cuneiform and other writing before that.
@letyourselfrest8932
@letyourselfrest8932 3 жыл бұрын
yesss im in highschool now and none of my teachers can read my cursive, they think it looks pretty tho
@ZadenZane
@ZadenZane 2 жыл бұрын
When I was at school in Britain we learned "joined-up handwriting" as it was called (nobody ever used the term "cursive") but in most areas of England, including where I grew up, we simply joined up the same stick letters we learned to write in, there were no special letter forms. Later on I met kids with weird handwriting styles, for example lowercase K looked like capital R with a long stalk coming out of the top. Also some of them wrote lowercase R in a 1930s kind of way. But I was never taught this, and I learned my letters in the 1970s! BTW: The weird style of writing was called "Marion Richardson," I was told.
@xviicass
@xviicass 3 жыл бұрын
been writing cursive since the 3rd grade! 18 now and i’m glad i’ve kept practicing it for years! very beautiful writing
@mgglorym1571
@mgglorym1571 2 жыл бұрын
I wrote cursive since grade 2 and I'm 12 na
@speedyspin
@speedyspin Жыл бұрын
@@mgglorym1571 mmmm is weird cuz everybody say "I wrote since 2nd grade".... I learn in 1st grade, actually this is one of the first things we learn at school. (read-write) and sounds very obvious
@northdestiny2575
@northdestiny2575 7 жыл бұрын
Cursive is dying in the US, other parts of the world still use it extensively. It doesn't actually make you write slower if you get used to it.
@pinklady7184
@pinklady7184 6 жыл бұрын
North Destiny cursive is taught to kids of all ages in Ireland and UK.
@TRUMP-lw1rq
@TRUMP-lw1rq 6 жыл бұрын
I would hardly call the use “extensive”, especially among the current generation
@stefanoscuotto3497
@stefanoscuotto3497 6 жыл бұрын
Dylan Gill As an italian i can tell you that here in Italy it's unthinkable not knowing how to write cursive after first grade. In Europe we learn to write cursive and read both cursive and printed characters between preschool and first grade. I think that no one who's born after the 80s/90s has troubles typing. I don't recall any cases of children stressing learning how to write so i don't understand why you guys are losing a skill.
@TRUMP-lw1rq
@TRUMP-lw1rq 6 жыл бұрын
Stefano Scuotto because it’s no longer a skill, it’s useless
@VincenzoVaccarino
@VincenzoVaccarino 6 жыл бұрын
it's not useless, there are several situations in which it could be useful: some people write faster that way, and when you have no devices at hand, it is useful to have a way to write down things you can use fast.
@envious3409
@envious3409 7 жыл бұрын
I write much faster in cursive
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 7 жыл бұрын
I used to too. But it slowly faded out of existence for me
@Cat-eq5jj
@Cat-eq5jj 7 жыл бұрын
Same
@__nog642
@__nog642 7 жыл бұрын
That's not a reason to teach it in schools though. Kids can be taught to write just as fast without cursive.
@__nog642
@__nog642 7 жыл бұрын
***** But there's no need to use it.
@__nog642
@__nog642 7 жыл бұрын
The Hispanic weeaboo of Latin America Well texting is slower since you can only use two fingers. I'm sure there are people who can write faster than you can text.
@aryaa7334
@aryaa7334 3 жыл бұрын
"Cursive is dying" Me a 300 iq prodigy: *switches to Lucida in MS word*
@moriarty5863
@moriarty5863 3 жыл бұрын
I find it so much faster to write cursive, it just flows so much better since the letters are joined whereas if u write like a pleb then you have to lift up your pen after every letter
@ikzo5126
@ikzo5126 7 жыл бұрын
If I'm lazy, I use cursive. if I feel like writing, I use the normal handwriting.
@douglassiqueira2347
@douglassiqueira2347 6 жыл бұрын
DragonKnightz I'm the other way round.
@queenoftacos9059
@queenoftacos9059 6 жыл бұрын
DragonKnightz OMG SAMEEEEE
@rickrose5377
@rickrose5377 6 жыл бұрын
DragonKnightz The 'normal handwriting'? WTF are you talking about?
@risingstars3478
@risingstars3478 6 жыл бұрын
rick rose printing
@rickrose5377
@rickrose5377 6 жыл бұрын
Rising Star Y'think, RS? OMG, evidently, I'm a dinosaur.
@enviousleaf123
@enviousleaf123 7 жыл бұрын
how can you claim writing in cursive isn't practical? I was taught both in Europe and cursive was always much easier and faster to write in.
@justyonormalfangirl1138
@justyonormalfangirl1138 7 жыл бұрын
That's just depending on the person's handwriting. I know lots of people who have ugly handwriting even in print, but there are some things as students, teachers, or just a person in general where we need to write something quickly (like a note, or a letter, or idk... notes for school). This is where typing isn't as effective for the certain individual. I like drawing when I take notes and connecting stuff with arrows, but at the same time I want it all to happen fluidly and quickly... so I use cursive.
@linkin5961
@linkin5961 7 жыл бұрын
Saurabhav I'm from the U.S. and I think it's more of a now issue. When I was younger it was a requirement and taught in school. Same for my mom and dad. I love Their cursive writing. I prefer print but they both only write cursive.
@MrLorem64
@MrLorem64 7 жыл бұрын
Saurabhav cursive is horrible and slow, I never learnt it. In Europe we don't waste our time with it
@abcdefgold
@abcdefgold 7 жыл бұрын
You don't speak for all of Europe Lorem_64, plenty of European countries teach their children cursive. I learnt cursive, I live in Europe. Apparently the fastest handwriters write in a mix of cursive and print, joining only letters that make sense. In that case, it makes sense to learn to write in cursive.
@ethanm2597
@ethanm2597 7 жыл бұрын
If you never learned cursive, I'd be willing to hazard a guess as to why you write it slowly and horribly.
@minhanhbui3955
@minhanhbui3955 3 жыл бұрын
watched the entire thing and there are literally no politicians mentioned in this video im not sure what the title is supposed to reference now???
@lilacDaisy111
@lilacDaisy111 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't wait to go to 4th grade, because that's when they taught cursive writing. But it never looked the way I wanted, so I gave up. This year, at 47 years old, I decided to give it another go, remembering how to but needing to re-train my hand and mind. I didn't let myself write any other way, and after 4 months, it's so lovely, I just stare at the page, thinking EYE wrote that
@meems7519
@meems7519 4 жыл бұрын
Woah! Y'all learned cursive writing at 3rd grade?? We just jumped right into it from like a kindergarten age where we just learned it together with non-cursives
@jimmyohdez
@jimmyohdez 3 жыл бұрын
American schools focus heavily on typing skills these days. They do so so that you’re a good worker and make the government lots of tax money at your future desk job lol
@berryyy__
@berryyy__ 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyohdez that's unfortunate, we learnt cursive in kindergarten and typing skills eventually in school aswell lol
@yournemesis192
@yournemesis192 3 жыл бұрын
Never learned typing in school But that was before the internet
@Ashwin-ksr
@Ashwin-ksr 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyohdez I wish my school taught me how to type, but I learnt typing from leaving unfunny comments under unfunny youtube videos and Reddit posts, but my classmates are suffering because it takes them 3mins to write a simple function while I just breeze through it.
@zeljkarozman3084
@zeljkarozman3084 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, we constantly used cursive
@noeljrpantig4049
@noeljrpantig4049 3 жыл бұрын
Vox: Cursive writing is dying *when the teacher talks too fast while you're taking down notes* Me: No it isn't sweetie 👁👄👁
@noeljrpantig4049
@noeljrpantig4049 3 жыл бұрын
@lucy_Sinda exactly
@MayorVideo
@MayorVideo 2 жыл бұрын
lets all just use shorthand then
@sleeping4cat
@sleeping4cat 2 жыл бұрын
Vox was referring cursive writing in correct manner dying not incorrect way, LOL!
@--------04
@--------04 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeping4cat well, in the end the moral seem to be "isn't necessary teach the student how write cursive"
@Janpre2001
@Janpre2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@MayorVideo I learned shorthand as well as cursive and another form of shorthand called speed writing. I can write any of those faster than printing.
@jms876.
@jms876. 3 жыл бұрын
When you write in cursive it feels like your just gliding on the paper
@arlenemdlc9672
@arlenemdlc9672 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’m the only one who was never taught cursive,.
@rubenaalexander5007
@rubenaalexander5007 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at the fancy writing on wedding invitations and stuff, and then I looked at the small flourishes adults added onto their letters, and then bam, now I write in cursive. Plus, writing quickly makes all the letters joined together so it looks cursive by default.
@barroncohen295
@barroncohen295 6 жыл бұрын
I have dyslexia and by learning cursive it helped me with mixing up d and b because it made me think about what I wrote
@YAYGamingYourOwnSenpai
@YAYGamingYourOwnSenpai 8 жыл бұрын
I remember my teachers in elementary always saying "you will be using this for highschool and college!!!" They could never be more wrong...
@FrodoTheDog777
@FrodoTheDog777 8 жыл бұрын
+Himtion I heard that many many times, then when I got to high school, all assignments had to be typed and printed. Only tests were hand-written. Same with University.
@CookieMonsterNoVeggi
@CookieMonsterNoVeggi 8 жыл бұрын
+Himtion I think they just came from an era in which essays were actually hand written, so they were forecasting our experiences based upon theirs.
@HarryBalzak
@HarryBalzak 8 жыл бұрын
+Himtion They say that about everything and it is almost always bullshit. Same with homework. It does nothing but they pretend like it is a skill we will need. No one clocks out of work and keeps working when they get home, unless they want to. In defense of cursive, I can write very beautifully when I want to now, but I cannot remember the last time I needed to. I do not regret learning though. It is a great skill and impresses people(mostly chicks).
@destinylopez1677
@destinylopez1677 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah teachers were like, if you write in cursive, it's going in the trash.
@TheAkashicTraveller
@TheAkashicTraveller 8 жыл бұрын
+Harry Balzak Except teachers; they come home and mark yesterdays homework. Also a metric tonne of planning and other random paperwork.
@jusdamnte
@jusdamnte 2 жыл бұрын
Man, here in Brazil we are required to write manually in every single exam/test, and at least for me, until the high school I wasn't allowed to use anything but cursive (mine was real bad lol), this was like just before the rona, I don't think that things had changed much since then.
@mariaclaramajin9906
@mariaclaramajin9906 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, i never ever learnt to write in anything but cursive, box letters are too slow to write, too much of a hassle, meu consagrado
@kathleenguevara
@kathleenguevara 3 жыл бұрын
Cursive definitely helps you write faster, if you’re in a situation where you need to write. ✍️
@Thumbsupurbum
@Thumbsupurbum 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone should be taught how to write in wingdings instead.
@dootthedooter
@dootthedooter 7 жыл бұрын
Its such as hassle writing my essays in wingdings
@Mr.FastZombie
@Mr.FastZombie 6 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE ON
@patriciaredmon3216
@patriciaredmon3216 6 жыл бұрын
Flintstoned : do only dingbats use windings or are they for each and every kind of miscreant?
@CRYGamer7
@CRYGamer7 5 жыл бұрын
As an Austrian, I cant even imagine how live without such an important skill. How can you even write fast, without this technique. In Austria, we are only using cursive handwriting.
@delfink4333
@delfink4333 4 жыл бұрын
CrytekFTW same in germany :)
@ninaninoca9407
@ninaninoca9407 4 жыл бұрын
My daughter is being taught only cursive at school, and it's painfully slow. Do you really think it's the fastest style, or have you just picked up speed by practicing that one the most?
@lkm_6689
@lkm_6689 4 жыл бұрын
Cursive slows me down lol
@delfink4333
@delfink4333 4 жыл бұрын
Nina Mermaid i learned it since 12 years, so I think it is practice
@robertstojs
@robertstojs 4 жыл бұрын
@@ninaninoca9407 Cursive was created with the intent of minimizing the time your pen is lifted from the paper while writing, it is faster than print by design, but it's important to learn slowly so your writing will be consistent and legible in the future. If your daughter is just starting with a worksheet it's important that she kicks bad habits like improper posture and grip early.
@-kingduckthexiii4938
@-kingduckthexiii4938 3 жыл бұрын
Even though cursive handwriting is dying in the US it still exists prominently in Europe.
@lunaleal9465
@lunaleal9465 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they don't do cursive in the United States, and it is really weird for me, i think they might be the only country on earth where students don't use cursive, I mean, i woudn't know how to take notes on classes if I wasn't taught cursive.
@JustOneGuy
@JustOneGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Man, Vox is like better and improved BuzzFeed.
@Dover939
@Dover939 8 жыл бұрын
+Bob Bobson Very slightly. Still too much feminist bullshit.
@Dover939
@Dover939 8 жыл бұрын
***** Feminism is no longer about that. You're thinking of egalitarianism. Women have had more rights and have been treated better for years.
@Dover939
@Dover939 8 жыл бұрын
***** I don't think you realize that feminism will not happen in male driven countries for decades to come, it's ingrained in law and culture. Being kidnapped or forcefully married is not exclusive to women. Men are sexualized CONSTANTLY, have you ever read a comic book? Men are catcalled CONSTANTLY, have you ever gone outside? Who is society? Because society doesn't fucking exist. Having imaginary problems doesn't help anyone. You can't just take a problem that effects everyone and try to say that it's a one sided issue. That is not ignorance, that is stupidity at it's definition.
@jovanj2717
@jovanj2717 7 жыл бұрын
That's like saying "Man, this pile of crap is like better and improved diarrhea."
@xioracky
@xioracky 6 жыл бұрын
you make that sound like a bad thing
@emanirenee
@emanirenee 7 жыл бұрын
I have written in cursive since middle school just because I have found it to be faster than print. My cursive may be trash but it sure is effective 😂
@bigombrello
@bigombrello 6 жыл бұрын
Same!
@glebsokolov8016
@glebsokolov8016 6 жыл бұрын
Emani Gilbert In Russia we must learn cursive and after moving to US I still use cursive lol
@JV-pu8kx
@JV-pu8kx 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason to learn cursive: how do you sign your name?
@atimholt
@atimholt 2 жыл бұрын
I learned cursive in school, but never got faster with it than with print. They taught us that it'd be important for later grades and later life, but it never became so. My print is vastly more legible, as well. I'm glad I can at least read cursive as well as I can read print, though.
@sicgc7658
@sicgc7658 7 жыл бұрын
I swear this is just an American issue, writing in cursive is much quicker and easier.
@__nog642
@__nog642 7 жыл бұрын
It's not really quicker and it's not easier to learn.
@sicgc7658
@sicgc7658 7 жыл бұрын
Neil Gupta It is much quicker; maybe not easier to read, but easier to learn.
@__nog642
@__nog642 7 жыл бұрын
Yoda I am It's not much quicker. And how is it easier to learn?
@sicgc7658
@sicgc7658 7 жыл бұрын
Neil Gupta Its still quicker; and its easier to learn as you write to your style, without learning each individual letter which takes longer to write and thus longer to learn.
@__nog642
@__nog642 7 жыл бұрын
Yoda I am It's not quicker. If you learned cursive, then of course you will write faster in cursive than in print. But someone who learned to print can write just as fast in print as you can in cursive. You can have a writing style in print too. You have to learn each individual letter when learning cursive too.
@robertog8008
@robertog8008 6 жыл бұрын
In Switzerland 🇨🇭 it’s different, we learn cursive as default and later if we want we can write in non cursive but most of us write in cursive here nowadays.
@LetsRockDaHouse
@LetsRockDaHouse 6 жыл бұрын
Roberto G same in Poland
@anapereira9887
@anapereira9887 6 жыл бұрын
Same in Portugal
@naomycosta6230
@naomycosta6230 6 жыл бұрын
Same in Brazil. I had no idea that people in USA were taught print before cursive. In Brazil if you are going to write a text in a exam or an essay, it must necessarily be in cursive. It is how the kids learn how to write.
@Tom19142
@Tom19142 6 жыл бұрын
Roberto G same in Italy
@henryvillafanebulloso1566
@henryvillafanebulloso1566 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to say "Same in Colombia" even though a lot of Colombians have a horrible handwritting. From what I can recall, I was kind of taught how to write in cursive but it wasn't that force and it was like the default, I remember that later on I was taught how to write in non cursive and I still find it very difficult and tyring compare to the cursive handwritting.
@film9491
@film9491 Жыл бұрын
In 3rd and 4th grade we were forced to learn cursive. In 5th grade the teacher told us never to use cursive again because she couldn’t read it
@TheTimsx
@TheTimsx 6 ай бұрын
As a European, I cannot grasp why some people don't write in cursive. Cursive is much better and it is unique to every writer.
@callumtanner1128
@callumtanner1128 6 жыл бұрын
In England we just call this joined up handwriting and is just writing regularly but adding lines between letters, not all this loopy stuff
@iridescent_skies
@iridescent_skies 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even need to be taught that, after using print for several years then being forced to use cursive for a year or two my handwriting became a sorta mixture of the two. Works though as it is legible and quick
@purexbleach84
@purexbleach84 5 жыл бұрын
Callum Tanner same in Australia as well
@Tezcax
@Tezcax 5 жыл бұрын
Vox is retarded, it's just some lines between letters that americans apparently cannot learn.
@shabina8527
@shabina8527 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tezcax No. In America you write cursive in a different way. Its not lines between letters. You write some letters completly different then in print.
@pragerrattler220780
@pragerrattler220780 5 жыл бұрын
@@shabina8527 we learn that too but it is Not difficult. And for Quick writing i prefer cursive to print
@visibleconfusion9894
@visibleconfusion9894 5 жыл бұрын
my hand writing is already barely understandable, if i use cursive it will just look like some strange alien writing
@Helperbot-2000
@Helperbot-2000 4 жыл бұрын
Same, except i can only write cursive, i have forgotten how to write print
@peterjansen7929
@peterjansen7929 3 жыл бұрын
@@Helperbot-2000 And I have almost forgotten how to write cursive, which I haven't used since 1980!
@someonestolemyname
@someonestolemyname 3 жыл бұрын
@@Helperbot-2000 Me too, I can only write the letters but not whole words with it since I still need to use them for distinguishing variables from formulas. Ironically because of my very bad hand dexterity I cannot make those sharp turns on print, which means my cursive is more legible than my print.
@ayanavade3742
@ayanavade3742 3 жыл бұрын
I never learned to write without cursive. It is strange for me to find out that cursive is actually so uncommon in the US.
@KatharineOsborne
@KatharineOsborne 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid I ended up not learning to write cursive because those lessons happened when I was in gifted classes. Didn’t really affect me; I can read cursive reasonably well, and figured out how to write most of it except the capital letters (I just use the print version which seems close enough). How often do I use it? Never. I also learned to write in near letter gothic in university and I do use that still for postal addresses as it’s super clear. Fun fact: cursive is more comfortable to write with a nibbed pen, while printing is easier with a ballpoint pen or pencil.
@emuriddle9364
@emuriddle9364 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that myself. Printed writing is usually in short motions. While cursive is more intricate.
@finlaymcewan
@finlaymcewan 8 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK we call it 'joined up' and 'not joined up' lol. I write joined up because it saves time
@mackrelburgess9087
@mackrelburgess9087 8 жыл бұрын
Same
@mikkyd9989
@mikkyd9989 8 жыл бұрын
+Finlay McEwan in australia we call it running writing
@finlaymcewan
@finlaymcewan 8 жыл бұрын
the more you know
@i_curious
@i_curious 8 жыл бұрын
+Mikky:D In India, its running handwriting! :)
@austininflorida
@austininflorida 8 жыл бұрын
That's odd, because most people I know who write in print don't really space out the letters anyway. We all tend to write 'joined up' when writing fast, but we usually just use print letters.
@perlajurado8953
@perlajurado8953 6 жыл бұрын
I learned cursive when i was little..ever since then i write no other way ...i get compliments on how my handwriting is so small...intricate..and beautiful... I really wish more people wrote in cursive..but i dont want it to be enforced on kids...
@smallkitten769
@smallkitten769 6 жыл бұрын
Same here. It's easier for me and saves me a lot of time. When I write really fast cursive saves my ass. I hate writing in print it slows me down a lot.
@redlock1353
@redlock1353 6 жыл бұрын
In my school writing cursive is mandatory on some subjects, but overall I don't have a problem with either. Just a few aesthetic weaknesses, but very readable. I have a really brilliant classmate who had to take three tests over because the teachers couldn't read his handwriting. It's interesting how the smartest people (doctors, engineers, lawyers) tend to have almost unreadable handwriting. Just an interesting thought.
@rileywyjb2901
@rileywyjb2901 6 жыл бұрын
lEo
@teaartist6455
@teaartist6455 6 жыл бұрын
Artists often have problems with handwriting. I can only assume it's because we're basically teaching ourselves to make lots of different lines on a regular basis while others kinda have fewer lines or sets of lines that they do over and over again and are thus more consistent since they are very used to making lines a certain way whereas with artists it tends to be all over the place.
@pwnerofwrlds
@pwnerofwrlds 6 жыл бұрын
... Why... do you... keep... putting three... dots.............?
@shackleton2
@shackleton2 3 ай бұрын
Curious. In my country, kids are only taught to write in cursive. I never learned to write in print at all. At school, any of us who even attempted it would get scolded.
@lillyc9283
@lillyc9283 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason my sister learned cursive was because her class for dyslexic children made her. I personally think it help her writing improve.
@vomray7421
@vomray7421 6 жыл бұрын
Cursive is beautiful and more easy to write...for me
@lapatata9837
@lapatata9837 6 жыл бұрын
Vyom Productions samee
@yidilau
@yidilau 6 жыл бұрын
Same I'm used to it but if I want to I change to print. 😕
@Faith-zv9xr
@Faith-zv9xr 6 жыл бұрын
it's way harder to read though
@aikisu13
@aikisu13 6 жыл бұрын
I write a cross between print and cursive. I was never taught it but I loved it so by default I tried to learn on my own. In the end I write a mix and switch sometimes I try to write cursive in my notes so I do and then other times I have print or a mix of the two on the same paper.
@ryantheready3066
@ryantheready3066 6 жыл бұрын
Faith Killick no really.
@carlosgeonzon7499
@carlosgeonzon7499 4 жыл бұрын
When i was still in my college years, my professor told me this about cursive writing: "It is necessary for a teacher to write in cursive because writing in cursive is much faster than in writing in print. When you will be assigned to places where there is no electricity or means of printing, writing in cursive is the quickest way to do your paper works".
@HeidiBird
@HeidiBird 2 жыл бұрын
THIS!
@HeartbeatCN
@HeartbeatCN 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't even true. A lot of people find writing in cursive more difficult and slow.
@Janpre2001
@Janpre2001 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@Janpre2001
@Janpre2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@HeartbeatCN Cursive writing is faster because you can write one word without taking your pen off the paper. Whereas printing you take your pen off the paper with each letter.
@speedyspin
@speedyspin Жыл бұрын
@@HeartbeatCN that's because they don't know how to write cursive
@Rod-bp8ow
@Rod-bp8ow 3 жыл бұрын
Writing in cursive is bringing the nobility, regal, royal, as well as the heavenly style of expressing oneself. It moves freely and full of design. It speaks ones creativity the way art leads you, the way it inclines one to cross boundaries and excel to the fullest. It is an honor, a gift, a memento, a treasure and certainties to be and being able to command the pen and languages the way it should, eloquence, realism, and art. Have cursive writing a part of your life and it shall bring thee into greater heights, phases of existence, where nature is and so as the flow of writing seamlessly admirable.
@RBRT02
@RBRT02 2 жыл бұрын
It started dying in 2002, that year I was born and I never accepted the rule of writing like that in school.
@natsunoneko
@natsunoneko 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting how this is taught later on in kids' education in the US. I am from Poland and here they just teach us to write cursive from the very beginning. Since it's first writing system we learn, there's no problem with it replacing something that was there before. Why not just do that? They will want you to write like that until 3rd, maybe 6th grade, around that time people start developing their own handwriting. Does anyone know the reason why in the US cursive isn't just taught from the start?
@bipedleek241
@bipedleek241 6 жыл бұрын
Dommie because they have one of the worst school systems in the world and only care about if you sing the pledge of allegiance or not
@darbyv8160
@darbyv8160 6 жыл бұрын
I formally learned it in 2nd grade at my school, but my mom and sister taught it to me when I was learning to wrote print so it was never really an issue for me.
@robertjohnston7341
@robertjohnston7341 6 жыл бұрын
Canadian schools also taught cursive right from the start back when I was a kid in the 80's, I still write primarily in cursive unless it's short notes to people who I know have trouble deciphering my handwriting.
@ujtelomvan0414
@ujtelomvan0414 6 жыл бұрын
In Hungary they teach cursive to everybody in elementary too. Than you can mix it up and create your own hand writing around 5th grade.
@Atomiks
@Atomiks 6 жыл бұрын
Dommie I think that the main reason Americans use print more often is because its a bit more "universal" of a design. I say that in quotes because everybody's print looks a bit different, but that fact that there is minimal variation makes it easier to see anybody's print and read it immediately.
@NolaGal2601
@NolaGal2601 6 жыл бұрын
When kids think cursive writing is a foreign language, there's something wrong.
@tahneethompson6012
@tahneethompson6012 6 жыл бұрын
NolaGal2601 it's called 'change' it's good to see you noticed it
@NolaGal2601
@NolaGal2601 6 жыл бұрын
Seeing English written in cursive and believing it to be a foreign language is "change"? That's laughable.
@avzarathustra6164
@avzarathustra6164 6 жыл бұрын
NolaGal2601 It actually is laughable, though.
@carlalorch8650
@carlalorch8650 6 жыл бұрын
I had that happen; I was writing and some kids noticed. They got very excited and asked me what I was doing because it looked really cool.
@avzarathustra6164
@avzarathustra6164 6 жыл бұрын
Harry Howlett lol
@politicoacademia
@politicoacademia 8 ай бұрын
In Quebec, Canada, we learned cursive in the 1st grade after learning how to write in kindergarten. I was forced to write in cursive until the 3rd grade where they would let us write in whichever style we wanted.
@boazchapman2353
@boazchapman2353 3 жыл бұрын
I was taught cursive in 1st grade. Don’t remember and can’t read cursive today
@jeremiemaranda1585
@jeremiemaranda1585 6 жыл бұрын
I remember how I was never taught print, we just went straight to cursive
@ellielouise6247
@ellielouise6247 7 жыл бұрын
I write in cursive (my school taught it for 6 years and my mum did calligraphy growing up). I've always received a mixed response to it, some have called it neat and 'Victorian-like' others called it 'doctor's handwriting' and I've had to read my work to people as they've never been taught to read cursive. I do it out of formality, to be honest, just like how someone would learn to speak in a way to sound polite, I personally think it looks more professional. I've seen more people gush about beautiful cursive than they ever have normal print. I would hate for it to no longer be taught, it's such a lovely tradition.
@wardarcher293
@wardarcher293 6 жыл бұрын
But it isn't the job of schools to pass on traditions, if you think your child should learn it then teach them, it's just not the responsibility of schools
@dabossbabie3605
@dabossbabie3605 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't use pure cursive but learning cursive has helped me alot to write quicker. a lot of the extra curves are useless, but the main idea of minimum strokes per word still holds in my writing. I find that people who use print oftentimes have a little struggle with letter spacing. Sometimes the letter spacing is way too wide and it's just a little weird yk, and not as efficient. Connectivity in cursive negates that a little I think, because you're forced to keep letters close together for the connections.
@ericjohnson288
@ericjohnson288 2 жыл бұрын
I learned cursive around when I was in 3rd grade, dropped it for 6 years, but then re-taught it to myself during my freshman year of high-school after a couple of teachers encouraged me to do so and I became disappointed with how difficult it was to read my own handwriting. I have used cursive for years since to this day and have even created my own style that suits me. I find that my cursive is not only significantly faster for me to write but also easier for me to read than my previous handwriting If it were possible, I think that students should be able to opt in to learning to write in cursive if they would like to, but should not be forced to. Whether students want to write in cursive or in print, they should learn to balance speed and legibility and get enjoyment out of their own style of handwriting.
@Selena_2002
@Selena_2002 5 жыл бұрын
Bad handwriting squad🤘
@vedran3775
@vedran3775 4 жыл бұрын
Me🤟👊
@hornybarnicle6700
@hornybarnicle6700 3 жыл бұрын
me🤪
@iamjabby3688
@iamjabby3688 3 жыл бұрын
Me
@taylor41
@taylor41 3 жыл бұрын
wazzup
@erinyes3943
@erinyes3943 3 жыл бұрын
Sup
@_arpheus
@_arpheus 3 жыл бұрын
Cursive gang where you at? 👇
@Kunaaaaallll
@Kunaaaaallll 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the people i know write in a hybrid of cursive and the print writing.. i feel its a lot faster to write in this hybrid style rather than sticking to one form..
@stinkyjoe4720
@stinkyjoe4720 2 жыл бұрын
gen z here and i was taught just before it wasn't required. We have much bigger issues than cursive, but I do wish it was still taught.
@MarvinClarence
@MarvinClarence 2 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear
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