Thank you Joel for having us in your studio! It was a lot of fun hanging out and it was really cool showing off ssh and vnc to your printer! If we visit again maybe we can finally lubricate those leadscrews! 😁

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Massive props to Joshua, Dan and the rest of the X1Plus team for taking this on, and a big thanks to Bambu for being refreshingly open and on board with this. This is going to open so many doors, not to mention wipe out all the silly comments and lies about Bambu's intentions.

Seeing Joshua daily driving a thinkpad I know he is a man of culture and practicality.

Loved this video. Not only from the point of view of the X1Plus and the options this and future changes will enable, and not just the massive props to Bambu Lab for engaging so strongly and positively. But also for people like you making a positive use of your platform to not just report on, but to further this industry by creating the connections between incredibly smart groups of people. 👏

In my opinion, the most important feature of the XPlus firmware is the offline update function. This should actually also be part of the original firmware. In many companies, no connection to the Internet is allowed for security reasons. And it is also convenient if you don't have a reliable internet connection or if there is no network connection at the location where the printer is located.

I'm holding off for now on getting an X1C until we have a confirmation that there's an option for this type of third party firmware. While i wouldn't want to change too much initially from stock I'd like the option of things like running a syslog server, adding some "firewall rules" at the bare minimum. Also, id be much more keen on the investment if i knew the project was maintained in the event it was depreciated (meaning Bambu). Excellent work.

I don't know if there was more that was cut out, but I love that Dan only said a couple things, and just stood there holding the mic the entire time. Lol

Thank you X1Plus team for your hard work, and thank you Bambu Labs for considering your customers' long-term experience. I really consider this a 'right to repair' thing. If something were to happen to Bambu and overnight every customer lost cloud connectivity and support, we have a path forward to keep using our printers. I mean, how many embedded devices do we have out there with old unsupported firmware that are riddled with security vulnerabilities? How many are running something like old log4j or ssh? Maybe we can keep these printers off the botnet in the future.

Honestly Joel can make a topic that can seem pretty boring and make it entertaining to watch. Not because of this video but other ones where he takes to developers/creators that seem awkward and just turns it into an amazing and entertaining experience.

I am excited and looking forward to the release! Being from tech/pharma maintenance, I am most looking forward to the access of data and hopefully being able to trend it for predictive measures. Thank you to everyone involved in this project and good luck!

This makes me seriously consider buying a Bambu. Without something like this, I would never buy a Bambu. Good job guys!

Absolute legend! Thanks for making this video and showing so many X1 owners how to take full control of their printers! 👏 Also, massive shout out to @_X1Plus_ for doing this and keeping it secret long enough that Bambu couldn't plug the exploit used to deploy it. 👍

Great chat, Joel! Love the videos that pull in industry leaders like this.

The way that the 3D printing community has treated Bambu has been downright shameful, to be honest. It seems like a huge portion of the community selected Prusa and Creality as their favorite manufacturers years ago and, instead of welcoming competition and better devices from other companies, actively protect Prusa and Creality from competition and engage in really toxic and antagonistic behavior toward companies like Bambu. The X1Carbon continues to be the single best 3D printer I've ever used. Good products deserve to be rewarded, because competition is good, and Bambu shook up the then-stagnant 3D printing market in the best way.

I'm not a fan of bambu, but at the same time I love the idea of making custom firmware. So I must commend the x1 plus team for getting them to that goal.

Value add for BBL printer owners. Great job, guys!

Great convo. Seem like a pair looking to do good. Glad you got to meet them and spend time with them.

This is cool, and makes the Bamboo stuff more appealing. Don't forget to change the root password for your SSH connection.

I'm "stuck" with my QIDI tech i-fast, and I'm not going to lie if I could get rid of it and get an OK amount of money out of it, I'd finally just get my bambu labs printer already -- really loving the community, the knowledge share and honestly the content coming out around this printer (and things like x1plus) oi vay.

awesome video Joel, congrats on getting the teams story out there

This was a fun video. Very cool. Thank you all.

I've been seriously considering an X1 Carbon for the business. I think you just sold one to me. Thanks for being awesome!!!

thank you! this might make it possible to use bambu printers! I cannot reconcile it with my conscience to use a device that only receives firmware updates via the cloud. I have ordered a P1S (i am thinking of sending it back when it arrives due to privacy concerns - still debating it with myself) and hope that there will be a similar firmware for it. but I still have bad feelings that I have to do all this to be able to operate the device "safely". I only use linux, vpn and a smartphone with open source firmware, I have the feeling that I am making a fool of myself when I use a bambu printer, it simply contradicts all my principles. I hope that Prusa's software will improve and that the strategy of copying for Bambu will not pay off. Nevertheless, I must admit that the existence of bambu lab has lead to great innovations in the market.

Telling Bambu Lab how it was jailbroken was a mistake IMO as many people did not get the time to downgrade before BL took measures to stop downgrading

What they don't mention is what kind of wear on the memory card and slot in the screen running this software full time? If this borks the slot you are paying 150 for a new screen out of pocket at least. He did say the printer crashes in a spectacular fashion if the card is removed prematurely...what happens when it fails? Will the print head come crashing into something? Fans, heater, voltage spikes to mainboard?

This was great! I was so excited when the midnight video Nero announced this and thought it would take forever. Am very pleased that Bambu seems to be working with the team. All I can see is a better product as the result.

I know that the P Series does not run linux so that makes running custom firmware on those devices much more difficult, but I'd love to see something like this (maybe requiring a raspberry pi or some other compute device) for those printers (yes I know about xtouch). Great work guys!

Is there any rough estimate about when to expect a release? Is it days, weeks or even months? Can't wait to get my hands on that.

removing ability to downgrade should be illegal, that gives companies just one more way of pushing a final upgrade that bricks machines, makes them unusable or unnessesary slow etc to kill off "old" machines and sell new ones

That was fantastic, especially looking on as a software engineer. It's not that some super technical thing occurred, but it's just the "getting started" of it all. But the part I loved most, the part that is going to be interpreted 10 thousand different ways, the part that's going to shake the arguing factions to their very core and they don't even know it. It was the 3 words Joshua said during the "most heated" part of this entire thing: I don't know. Overlogging is a thing in software, especially consumer software. PII is any identifiable and traceable piece of data... one person may not think an SSID is PII, but I can tell you Google considers it PII. Apple considers it PII. Microsoft considers it PII. The company's I've worked for have send legal notices saying SSIDs are PII... so if you don't think it's PII, congrats... but your software should not be logging it. But that's not the point... the point is there are people who have watched this video wanting to learn about X1Plus, there are people who want to meet the mysterious people behind it, there are people who want to know what's next... and then there's the people who want to argue on the internet about the logs. That description about the engineer who wrote logs to debug a service vs. the support person who has to look through it is so on point. One of my jobs, I had the service I worked on print out some 400-500 log lines on something. I had a QA person ask "but how do I know it did the thing?" so I went and wrote a function that collected information, put it into a nice compact package, and then printed out like 4 lines in the middle of all the spew, and I said "grep for these words, and it will tell you it in plain english" and they came back and said "wow, that's so much easier". For those unaware: grep is a tool that filters out everything except what has the word(s) you told it to look for. So while overlogging is a thing, if some engineer tells a support person "grep for these words" then it can ignore everything else in the logs and look at just that. Even better, have the engineers make a tool that takes the log file and spots out a table of info... no manual human reading the logs. Then feedback loop of "if we're not reading it for support... and the engineers don't need it... why are we logging it?" I look forward to where this goes. I'm glad that vendor buy in has occurred... or at least looks like it as of this comment writing. And I award bonus points to the team for bringing FFT into the conversation and a splash of linear algebra.

Hoping for a release soon. Need to do a bunch of things on my X1 and I've been putting it off hoping for this to release so I can do it all at once

Side note, I've always wondered what that lead-screw notification is triggered by .. is it just a timer? Or does it take feedback from the machine in some way? With regards to the X1 Plus firmware, this was a great interview in terms of answering a lot of lingering questions -- primarily, I was curious if we were going to be stuck on the FW 1.7 feature set since the BLab blog post seemed to make it sound like they'd have the one rootable firmware and that was it. I don't care about the hardware warranty (I'm probably out of it) and have never used their support channel (besides reporting bugs in the early days). Seems we've got a path forward, with X1 Plus downloading the newer FW packages. It'll be really fun to see what else the OS community comes up with in terms of enhancements.

Great explanation. What I expect to come out of this cooperation is Bambulab can now benefit from ideas X1Plus users create and those ideas can then make future Bambulab X1 firmware even better. That’s where opening up can help. Great work by the X1 plus team.

Excitingly close is an understatement. I also had some fun with some weird issues. 😂

21 seconds in I hear, "They are from the X1 Plus team", and I'm like, "WHAT??? I just bought an X1 less than 2 months ago and now they have a plus version?". Then I realized it was the guys behind the firmware X1 Plus. Way to give me a mini heart attack, Joel! No worries though. That is what it's called. I know you weren't trying to freak people out. LOL Now back to watch the other 36 minutes and 21 seconds of the video. High-5!

He just released his latest masterpiece you can see the amount of excitement. Thanks everyone involved in the great innovation.

Now my big question is can that Bambu Lab logo light on the X1C extruder be turned off by software or is it hardwired to power? The "power" button on the top only turns off the screen by design, but really should be a full standby. It should turns off the screen, LEDs and fans leaving only WiFi enabled for wake up. If only...

Great work, I love having open hardware and software.. thank you

That was an awesome watch, and it makes me want to buy a Bambulab printer. Hopefully the mods can be extended to P1 and A1, but are they not running the Linux system component at all?

Man. Thank you so much for this.

Really nice to see more of the x1plus team! What about p1plus next? :)

Good info, but at the end of the day all I want is the AMS on other printers. Hoping for the future

If I buy a new X1C, would I be able to install this, or will I have a factory firmware that's too new?

Oh I can’t wait this looks amazing

I bet Dan thought that was a worthwhile trip.

Ironic hearing about a Chinese company wanting to protect their IP

This x1plus firmware reminds me of when I first installed a custom firmware on my Canon 300D, and later I did the same to a 5DII. I think that the x1plus team is adding to the community of X1C users. I bought a system that is hands off, but as a technical person I would like some of this information to be available.

Imo bambu probably expected this and had a plan already. History shows us that people will find a way around locking down software. It was either work with the team or hold out for a short time and lose control completely. They basically did the only thing that made any sense. Honestly I think this will sell more printers in the long run. Many of us were holding out due to the closed source. Now I’m ready to buy one.

"errr, never mind" was a good touch lol

Ah you did finally test it. nice!

Is the ability to use ethernet via USB on the roadmap?

1233 locked, 1234 unlocked? What did I miss?

I actually work for a company that recently purchased 2x X1Cs, and during deployment the IT department flagged the network traffic. As a result of not being able to update FW, or manage prints locally we had to return both printers. We were very forthcoming to BBL on the reasons why.

I'm excited to try it, I'm refusing to update my firmware until its released.

maybe the most important new feature of this custom firmware is the friends we make along the way

Now this firmware is available, I might actually buy one of these machines.

I hope BambuLab will take these feature and released it officially

That mean 01.70.10 firmware also works not just 01.70.00 and older? If it’s come out now, we can update for test and no need for bambu lab one way ticket

Look promising, seems they have done really good job. Will it be possible to finally PID tune our hotend ?

Where is the Firmware stored in the X1? Is it the MC Board, the Toolhead Board or the Touchscreen? Switching back to a original spare part should bring the bambulab Firmware back?

Will this ever get to a point where.. we can install the firmware, input our wifi information and just send from the slicer to the machine .. just that easily without knowing a lot of IT stuff and network experience.. Or in other words will this ever get as simple as stock setup to use.. I would love to send through my wifi without enabling cloud services.

My biggest question is will Bambu Lab release a filament printer with a larger build volume? 256mm cube is small. I wish there were a 400mm cube or 500mm cube version or even an IDEX vesion as well to cut down on all the wasted filament. It's ironic to waste so much filament while printing multi coloured or multi material objects.

I was happy thinking that x1plus was a bigger Bambu printer 😂 That’s the only reason I don’t buy a Bambu printer. Waiting to release a bigger printer with at least 300x300 print area.

I love the printer's name Inky (After the Pacman ghost?) We had a cat named Inky

Can the X1Plus Team display a numerical value for the temperature and humidity sensor on the AMS? The icon is useless.

Absolutly awome !

@30:xx the discussion enters the 'security' stage. I just can't understand why Bambu Cloud is "in my face" RE: the logs. This is an important video for Bambu Labs users to watch and understand that EVEN if they select "LAN" mode, who says that it is actually respected just because a check box is ticked. The LAN + Shield mode shows these developers get the idea of intellectual property. Is this just a look into the "how does China respect" intellectual property?

dude, print some arms for the microphones 😂😂

Good thing the SD card failed. This "backup" audio is much more easy on the ears. For some reason the mics sound like a wireless gaming headset.

Awesome video! Exciting times! What happens if you remove and lose the SD card? or delete required OS files/corrupt them? can you revert back the original firmware?

Great video! Anyone else absolutely hate the audio? Sounds awful to me… Edit: just in the first part before the sd card fails

Amazing work!!

this was so cool!

@3DPrintingNerd is the lag seen on screen part of a screencast issue or related to the firmware running from a SD? And, if you know it, is the X1+ fw supposedly being installed on the display motherboard or the MC motherboard?

Very interesting, Joel and team!

Wooov that's great...if this becomes a reality in the future, with a bootloader and option for X1plus software. Then I buy a Bambu lab X1.

13:41 i call a BS on this one. If best user experience to you, is to hide a valuable data that MY printer has, than yes it is "best" user experience. My bed is like a bowl and bl ccp agents tell me it is within the specs and completely refuse to give me my data. ( No difference from their big brother). Plus their costumers service is complete crap. If i would be running my printer for business i would be screwed.

Amazing smart people.

Dear Joel, Please lub your lead screws Sincerely yours, Everyone.

Thank you for the video

As someone who wants to buy an X1C but doesn't have the money at the moment, how will this work for the future versions of firmware that lock things up?

Any chance of Octoprint support?

I really hope that it also supports wpa enterprise as the X1E does have this, but X1C should also be able to use this as well as it runs Linux.

I think I see a need for some 3D printed mic stands 😊

Man, what I would give for A1Plus. I'd love having my A1 running with my Enders in Fluidd.

kind of want this on my p1s... the bed level function is awesome!!!! they need to add more slicer remote functions... imagine the printer graphicaly showing real time what layer/line its doing on the screen.. even would be cool in bambustudio without cfw.. i wonder why nobody has done it yet LOL btw im pretty sure they log everything to steal good ideas!

Hey Joel, do you think Bambù Labs will get into developing 3D Resin Printers at some point?

I have a great video suggestion! I love your videos and love them, in fact you got me into the k1max which I just got. So for my video I was wondering if you could do a side by side with the k1max and x1c next to each other. You don’t have to do it I was just wondering...❤😅😅

The fact those guys aren’t flood with money is appalling.. they basically boosted Bambu sales in the close future. As a Voron guy now I can consider an X1C as a viable purchase.

People unaware of this third party software might get confused with the title and think it's a new release from Bambu Labs

this is great news.

So is this update to go around having to connect and communicate with the PLC? Essentially making this a North American based printer and not something controlled by the PLC?

Will a version be released that allows this to be installed on firmware past 1.7.0?

Oh yeah, typical bosses, making the guy who travelled the longest load the SD card too. :P

Not sure why I wasent subscribed till today, but seriously this this is the single push I needed to get a Bamboo labs with the AMS

Why is modding the firmware on anything a issue. The product that's getting the new firmware IS your property. Not the manufacturer. When I get a PC, one of the first things I do is wipe it to remove all the crap I don't want. Then install whatever I want on it. The manufacturer should have no say-so on what I do with my stuff.

that old Thinkpad with upgraded battery - those people are engineers, not hobbyists :D

When does it drop!

Just thinking that the larger size (maybe 300mm3 build volume) of the X1 is on the way when seeing "X1Plus"

need hack A1 to use 2 ams light asap