Cutting an NVIDIA RTX 4090 in Half with a Water Jet: The Science of Cooling

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We met with NVIDIA's thermal engineering team to cut an RTX 4090 Founders Edition cooler (not GPU or PCB) in half with a water jet. This was for science, as it allows us to see inside the vapor chamber, the heatpipes, and the cooling structure to understand how coolers are internally formed. We'll have a review of the RTX 4090 Founders Edition soon, but for now, we're starting with a cross-section and engineering-heavy video to learn about cooler design.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Cutting an RTX 4090 Cooler in Half
04:50 - Explaining the Cut-in-Half RTX 4090
06:13 - Microscope Shots of the Vapor Chamber
08:10 - The Design Process & The PCB Revealed
09:30 - Heatpipe vs. Vapor Chamber Use
13:23 - Avoiding Dryout, Memory Thermals
15:25 - "The TIM Isn't Good!"
18:01 - Failed Vapor Chambers
19:46 - Fan Design, Bearings, & Airflow
25:20 - Concluding & CFD
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Host, Video Editing: Steve Burke
Video Editing, Camera Work: Andrew Coleman
Guest: Malcolm Gutenburg (NVIDIA Thermal Engineer)

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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Жыл бұрын
Der8auer explains thermal paste pump out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eamhq6hemqnYY6s.html Watch TiN (formerly EVGA) demonstrate how GPUs die from over temperature: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mM91oqWgnbmUiqM.html
@lamaisonrockduprocrastinat6395
@lamaisonrockduprocrastinat6395 Жыл бұрын
I sincerely believe that with this version it will create a division between smart players and idiots because this technology is unacceptable! The size of this piece of shit shows the end of this old technology's.... they have to change their staff ... new engineers is required ! **They are obsolete** ! And their Ray tracing is even not **mastered** ... their own creation is even not understood **IT'S JUST REFLEXION & TEXTURES ON EMPTY OBJECTS** > the GC size is that indication, **the symptom** ... they show to the face of the world their weakness ! **NEED NEW BLOOD, NEW ENGINEERS** ... >>>> very poor engineering ! 30 years of GC ... remove the incompetent
@neb_setabed
@neb_setabed Жыл бұрын
Clickbait
@edwardalphonse4091
@edwardalphonse4091 Жыл бұрын
@@lamaisonrockduprocrastinat6395 h
@edwardalphonse4091
@edwardalphonse4091 Жыл бұрын
@@neb_setabed a
@dirkmanderin
@dirkmanderin Жыл бұрын
The headline is a bit clickbaity, since you're not cutting the actual card in half...
@austinshaner
@austinshaner Жыл бұрын
As an engineer, I felt right at home in this video. Big companies don't typically send their engineers out for PR purposes. Because let's be honest, most engineers will bore you with the details. But from a company that keeps things pretty close to the chest, this was extremely refreshing. You can tell he's had a lot of hands on experience developing these coolers. He did a great job. Please have him back!
@prgnify
@prgnify Жыл бұрын
Man I wish we could get a multi hour presentation on his experience doing CFD for a company with 'infinite computing resources' as he put.
@theheadone
@theheadone Жыл бұрын
Definitely spot on. I felt like I was at work talking with some of the PhD's.
@marcm.
@marcm. Жыл бұрын
Personally I would have loved to have heard more on each one of these areas that he touched on. This video could easily have been two times the length and I would have still been entranced
@adjoho1
@adjoho1 Жыл бұрын
While I really enjoyed this segment, it's not relevant to me. I custom loop my systems, so the cooler on a GPU is relevant only for the period I power the card on to make sure it powers up. My STRIX 3080 cooler lasted about 5 minutes before I removed it and installed a water block. I wish vendors would offer a bare card for users like me.
@MeGaDwarf2008
@MeGaDwarf2008 Жыл бұрын
@@adjoho1 Some vendors do sell a pre-installed waterblock versions, I think MSI and Gigabyte had one last generation. I'm running the MSI's 2080 waterblock card for example. Which was a major PITA to service, but that's a bit of a side topic.
@jokerproduction
@jokerproduction Жыл бұрын
NVIDIA: unboxing embargo Steve: Teardown? NVIDIA: Cut it in half with a water jet? Steve: Yes.
@Blackwing2345635
@Blackwing2345635 Жыл бұрын
NVIDIA: Damn it, this madman wouldn't stop anyway! FINE, we'll do it ourselves!
@jooplin
@jooplin Жыл бұрын
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
@neondemon5137
@neondemon5137 Жыл бұрын
@@jooplin Shaka, when the walls fell.
@NEDMKitten
@NEDMKitten Жыл бұрын
@@jooplin when the water jets fell
@mikeoleksa
@mikeoleksa Жыл бұрын
@@Blackwing2345635 🤣🤣🤣
@Scooged
@Scooged Жыл бұрын
I love how happy he is to talk about this stuff. That's real passion. That dude doesn't work for a living, he's just having fun for a living.
@bshulke
@bshulke Жыл бұрын
If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work a day in your life.
@PDXCustomPCS
@PDXCustomPCS Жыл бұрын
Some of us do it on the side and imagine were like him. Awesome roll model. 👌
@szaszm_
@szaszm_ Жыл бұрын
@@bshulke Great saying, but there's a darker flipside to this: If you start doing your hobby professionally, you may get bored with it, or they (colleagues) may make you hate it. It depends on the work environment and your ability to handle or fix it.
@svengustaffson385
@svengustaffson385 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say that
@tobiwonkanogy2975
@tobiwonkanogy2975 Жыл бұрын
It definitely something you could pick up on .
@Aeqstaw
@Aeqstaw Жыл бұрын
Not sure how you got an NVIDIA engineer out there, but this was an excellent guest and piece of content.
@sjohie
@sjohie Жыл бұрын
There was a PR person just outside the camera view, and that guy didn't come along to just handle Malcom's luggage. This is part of a elaborate PR campaign, with probably a pre-approved script etc. But GN won't bend to their will to much, so they, Nvidia I mean, did take somewhat of a risk here. Technicians aren't always good communicators, just like a good cook, might not be all that good at running an complete restaurant. I feel they made the right choice going with Steve and GN, they nail this technical stuff pretty good.
@johnd.1618
@johnd.1618 Жыл бұрын
Being nice to Nvidia is one reason.
@vuri3798
@vuri3798 Жыл бұрын
Easy, Nvidia saw that people currently hate them for a reason, so they copied Intel's PR homework hoping it will all go away.
@randomassortmentofthings
@randomassortmentofthings Жыл бұрын
An engineer will gladly talk to you about his work all day long: it's his company that won't let him lmao
@MrRene5551
@MrRene5551 Жыл бұрын
Sponsored by Nvidia, of course GN dropped the pants for them.
@Real28
@Real28 Жыл бұрын
NVIDIA executives may be questionable at best but NVIDIA engineers are among the best in the entire business.
@supra107
@supra107 Жыл бұрын
True, all of Nvidia's issues come from the suits.
@Taima_the_lion
@Taima_the_lion Жыл бұрын
Probably like that for a lot of the major tech companies since they are the ones actually designing the product and take pride in it
@lilblackduc7312
@lilblackduc7312 Жыл бұрын
If *Anyone* from Nvidia, or other company explains things truthfully, keep them as a friend. They're uniquely valuable!
@789know
@789know Жыл бұрын
Ironic that Jensen wong is also a engineer. People usually associated Nvidia decision with him as he is the CEO
@SidorovichJr
@SidorovichJr Жыл бұрын
You assume this by simply products leading performance or something else matters? :)
@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Жыл бұрын
This is a perfect example that if you can get someone that loves and is excited about their profession the enthusiasm almost becomes contagious. The excitement from the engineers is almost palatable and the crew did a great job of framing it to make it more digestible for the general public as well. Absolutely brilliant video wish it was longer.
@zachoneal572
@zachoneal572 Жыл бұрын
I think you meant palpable, though it is quite amusing that you then use digestible in the same sentence.
@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Жыл бұрын
@@zachoneal572 voice program in my car sometimes is not the best. Was dictating the response in my car after listening to the video on my commute to work.
@zachoneal572
@zachoneal572 Жыл бұрын
@@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Yeah definitely don't comment on KZfaq videos while driving lmao.
@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Жыл бұрын
@@zachoneal572 what are you kidding me it beats the heck out of sitting in traffic doing nothing. Or just listening to a book
@zachoneal572
@zachoneal572 Жыл бұрын
@@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Paying attention the road and not dying/killing others is far superior.
@stronkde
@stronkde Жыл бұрын
As an engineer that can relate to product design decisions, hats off to Malcolm for his demonstration and explanations. It's super hard to convey what you did (and why) in a way that people can understand.. Malcolm did a bang up job doing just that!
@Cinetyk
@Cinetyk Жыл бұрын
The pricing is still absurd, and me as a costumer can't ignore that. But yeah, it's easy to forget the insane levels of quality engineering work being done by some of the best people in their field and it's cool to watch this kind of stuff. Takes me back to my uni days and physics classes.
@RyoHazuki224
@RyoHazuki224 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the pricing is absurd. I can't even imagine a professional gamer justifying that price for even a small handful of FPS bump. The difference isn't THAT big, the damn cost is way too high. We're getting to a point of diminishing returns here. So yes, if you purchase a 4090 brand new to just play games with (as in, you're not a tech reviewer for your job), then you're a damn idiot and you need to get your head examined.
@4gbmeans4gb61
@4gbmeans4gb61 Жыл бұрын
When has the titan or 90 version ever been cheap? And when have you ever had one? Never?
@creed5248
@creed5248 Жыл бұрын
Despite him being so technical - he was still able to explain it in fairly simple terms that I could understand . The really made out well by hiring him at Nvidia .
@tiestofalljays
@tiestofalljays Жыл бұрын
Yep, the ability to break down complex ideas/things into simple terms is a hallmark of “someone who knows what they’re talking about”.
@xerzy
@xerzy Жыл бұрын
@@tiestofalljays Basically, it all comes down to understanding what the *end goal* of it all is, from there you can ignore irrelevant technical details and pretty much break anything down into basic mechanics and/or logic which anyone can keep up with.
@sortofsmarter
@sortofsmarter Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine him 20 years from now as a "grey beard", the wisdom he can dispell....
@Plusimurfriend
@Plusimurfriend Жыл бұрын
He is white, so he wont last long at Nvidia despite his capabilities.
@Matt561
@Matt561 Жыл бұрын
I was with the PR guy, most of it right over my head lol
@chrys9256
@chrys9256 Жыл бұрын
This video is emblematic of the wide gulf between Nvidia's engineering team and the company's executives. It can't be easy for the engineers to witness so much negativity and lack of enthusiasm surrounding the products they worked so hard to create due to the decisions made by the executives.
@davidb8539
@davidb8539 Жыл бұрын
From experience - this can be applied to most companies. Salesmen promise the moon Engineering designs the moon The execs decide the customers need a lumpy boulder the price of the moon
@ffwast
@ffwast Жыл бұрын
@@hyphydan cope
@ATR-42
@ATR-42 Жыл бұрын
@@davidb8539 totally agree ^^ . hello Boeing lol
@ShaneMcGrath.
@ShaneMcGrath. Жыл бұрын
@@hyphydan Not at those prices, Nvidia needs to cope that gpu mining is DED! Drop the prices a lot more and many gamers would help clear out those warehouses.
@hyphydan
@hyphydan Жыл бұрын
@@ShaneMcGrath. I'm going to sell my 3080 and 3060ti I got for MSRP and mined for a year, and will purchase a 4080 16gb. Problem solved
@r2d2arm
@r2d2arm Жыл бұрын
As a structural engineer in aerospace, appreciated the bit about adding extra columns for stability in the vapor chamber. Great video and very informative. The PR guy shouldn't have to worry, fundamental equations and laws! Probably had that Winona Ryder gif on loop in his head 😂
@lxndrlbr
@lxndrlbr Жыл бұрын
This content is a huge plus and differentiator of your channel. I am very interested in seeing all engineering topics in the future. They could be scheduled between announcements seasons. I hope you get all the energy and resources to produce more content like you do!
@DaniIhzaFarrosi
@DaniIhzaFarrosi Жыл бұрын
In spite of all hate towards NVIDIA, this video reminds us that there are passionate and real genuine people in it. It’s unfortunate that all the bad decisions the company made overshadow the talent behind it.
@michaelblue4619
@michaelblue4619 Жыл бұрын
I mean the 4090 made by passionate and genuine people was always a good gpu.
@rvs55
@rvs55 Жыл бұрын
And even then, how bad or good those decisions are, is also relative. Those decisions are only bad for the average consumer. It doesn't really affect the more affluent or rich consumers. And it benefits the company and shareholders. So it all depends on where you stand. Heh.
@simonwei92
@simonwei92 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Always remember guys, hate a company if you will, but never extend that hate to the normal people working in that company.
@Dudi4PoLFr
@Dudi4PoLFr Жыл бұрын
And this is my problem with huge corporations like Nvidia. We only hear and see what the suits in upper management are doing/saying while in the back, there are hundreds if not thousands of passionate engineers doing all the hard work and pushing the limits of technology that we will never know about.
@TRAMP-oline
@TRAMP-oline Жыл бұрын
@@rvs55 You don't become affluent or rich by wasting money. That's a very bad way of putting it. Affluent and rich people weigh the cons and pros and accept or deny it based on their means like anyone else.
@chrisd7829
@chrisd7829 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what kinds of shenanigans you guys had to pull to get this to happen. But this is an absolutely amazing video. Good job
@Matt561
@Matt561 Жыл бұрын
Being an unbiased technical news source for the past 12 years or so
@jm8080ful
@jm8080ful Жыл бұрын
nvidia being desperate for some kind of pr with the gpu prices going down
@visitante-pc5zc
@visitante-pc5zc Жыл бұрын
Ngreedia, you mean
@countvonthizzle9623
@countvonthizzle9623 Жыл бұрын
Steve had to tie back his hair. And maybe kneel.
@camotech1314
@camotech1314 Жыл бұрын
@@jm8080ful doesn't mean they will reduce their prices, have you seen how much the 4090 costs?🤣🤣🤣
@BrilliantDesignOnline
@BrilliantDesignOnline Жыл бұрын
As an (non-thermal) engineer, this is fascinating stuff, and amazing the thought and testing they put into these designs.
@apohorecki
@apohorecki Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate GN doing these unique types of videos. I have to admit that some of it went over my head, but I enjoyed listening to the engineer. He seems really proud and enthusiastic about his work.
@Watchfulfox
@Watchfulfox Жыл бұрын
Watch it again, you'll see it's all basically common physics principles in action. The stuff you learn in school put to use in the real world instead of just being formulas on paper.
@Ken-no5ip
@Ken-no5ip Жыл бұрын
@@Watchfulfox you calculate the enthalpy flow of steam when you cook spaghetti?
@ambush1242
@ambush1242 Жыл бұрын
You guys are the gold standard for computer hardware investigation. Incredible work here guys.
@redstar612
@redstar612 Жыл бұрын
Nexus is on another level with PC content same with der8auer's channel!
@Phytrox
@Phytrox Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts, GN & Der8auer are on next level
@HaiHane
@HaiHane Жыл бұрын
Gold standard? Was expecting actual 4090 getting cut in half What I got: 4090 cooler cut in half Sad cat thumb. Quality clickbait. Gold standard
@dylanherron3963
@dylanherron3963 Жыл бұрын
@@HaiHane It's almost as if they have a business and need to draw traffic and support staff.
@HaiHane
@HaiHane Жыл бұрын
@@dylanherron3963 I think you caught on with the sarcasm. My point being they don't need to pull a Linus clickbait move if they are serious in distinguishing with actual proper quality. Their content is good, they don't need to pull this shady title move.
@bballer4life24
@bballer4life24 Жыл бұрын
Malcom was awesome. Having people like him acting as the face for Nvidia paints them in a much better light. Also, it was cool to see how much goes into these designs and to hear one of the engineers say that they were proud of their design. Makes you realize its it much more than slapping fans on some heatsinks and making it bigger if its still too hot.
@Lodinn
@Lodinn Жыл бұрын
It's also pretty interesting, Malcolm's presenting skills are pretty good but you still can tell there's a big gap in experience between him and Steve and Steve has to play a host role constantly guiding him so it doesn't get too jargon-y for the viewers.
@schalkvanheerden6151
@schalkvanheerden6151 Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating video. Great work! You guys did such a good job tackling the very technical aspects and in such a way that the conversation flowed so naturally. Really cool video. It felt like it went by so quickly and it was awesome to see all the close-up shots. The little explanation text in the video was soooo helpful.
@jay_volpe
@jay_volpe Жыл бұрын
You gotta love the engineers involved in making these things.
@Grendizer81
@Grendizer81 Жыл бұрын
Being a pro in their own domain is one thing, being able to talk about it in simple terms to the unknowledgable is another. That ability shows his competence. Very impressive.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of engagement I want to see from tech companies - most of their customers might not be tech savvy but every single one of them has a friend that is whom is consulted at every purchase.
@jeroen9424
@jeroen9424 Жыл бұрын
And GN is our "friend", they're one of the only people I trust when it comes to reviewing hardware. I do not have friends that are really into pc hardware :(
@JGMeador444
@JGMeador444 Жыл бұрын
@@jeroen9424 Yeah, I trust GN, der8auer, and Hardware Unboxed. That's it.
@ChowdongsFameCrew
@ChowdongsFameCrew Жыл бұрын
oh yes haha :D
@djnorth2020
@djnorth2020 Жыл бұрын
Incredible content. Really cool to see and hear things inside the GPU cooling.
@GoldenHeartNecklace
@GoldenHeartNecklace Жыл бұрын
I'd love it if that guy made his own engineering channel, he is so genuine in how much he loves his work he's inspiring.
@SasquatchComposites
@SasquatchComposites Жыл бұрын
This was quite possibly my favorite GN video of all time. Really tickled my aerospace engineer brain to learn how they're applying heat transfer and fluid dynamics to ultimately give us more fps for our entertainment. It'd be super fun to be part of that team. The engineering here is just as sophisticated as what I do on aircraft.
@DummyUrD
@DummyUrD Жыл бұрын
sounded more like fps while having a tolerable level of sound :p
@joseverdejo9010
@joseverdejo9010 Жыл бұрын
I thought of propeller pitch and blade counts lol
@isaacw7479
@isaacw7479 Жыл бұрын
What REALLY needs to be cut in half is the price
@nubfaceforthelose
@nubfaceforthelose Жыл бұрын
Damn you read my mind.
@DrNoBrazil
@DrNoBrazil Жыл бұрын
Or the number of GN nexus. It is becoming a sad tiktok challenge channel...
@peachierose3356
@peachierose3356 Жыл бұрын
damn
@somakun1806
@somakun1806 Жыл бұрын
Preach
@kored6610
@kored6610 Жыл бұрын
Or people needs for the lastest tech
@TillRiedell
@TillRiedell Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video. I'm a senior studying chemical engineering, and there was a ton of cross over. Really interesting! Props to Nvidia for working with you guys to make the video. This is the content that makes GN such a special KZfaq channel.
@harlenc1776
@harlenc1776 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks Malcolm for coming out and sharing!
@mpauls85
@mpauls85 Жыл бұрын
That was AMAZING! Also, kudos to NVIDIA for allowing this. The PR-guys off camera where probably sweating the whole time. 😅
@kingplunger6033
@kingplunger6033 Жыл бұрын
maybe, but in the end nvidia does shitty things every year and people forget fast, so its not that bad.
@endless2239
@endless2239 Жыл бұрын
the Nvidia PR-guys saw the responses to Tom Peterson on Linus video and immediately grabbed this dude, some waterjet and send him to GN XD. Genius.
@johan1471
@johan1471 Жыл бұрын
@@endless2239 can you send the link of the video you're talking about
@ZachAttack2U
@ZachAttack2U Жыл бұрын
@@johan1471 I believe this is the video Endless was talking about: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apueaNOfqt_baaM.html
@Fate025
@Fate025 Жыл бұрын
the PR guy must be constantly thinking, wait did he just reveal everything thats under NDA????
@dhofari9009
@dhofari9009 Жыл бұрын
It seems that Nvidia has high confidence on the performance of the 4000 series to allow for such video especially with GN. As an Engineer I found the amount of technical information on this video is crazy. Well done
@MarioCRO
@MarioCRO Жыл бұрын
GN bringing high value for the community. Great video and very interesting 30 mins spent watching it. Thank you GN!
@joyQuery
@joyQuery 10 ай бұрын
Wow -- this video blew me away! Usually I get bored and sleepy really quick with in depth engineering videos but Malcolm was super interesting the whole time! Dude that is a guy who loves what he does and does a fantastic job at it -- so many hats off to Malcolm and Steve at an awesome job of dumbing things down (in a good way) for the rest of us! Side note I want my wife to look at me the way Steve looked at Malcolm nerding out with his explanations -- you can see the genuine interest and giddiness Steve had on this subject and analysis -- everything about this video was phenomenal!
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir Жыл бұрын
I find it quite funny how a lot of people have to physically see engineers, designers, etc to remember that there is more to companies than just their board members and marketing team. It's great to see how GN's influence in the tech world is so well respected. Thanks Steve!
@BrooklynBalla
@BrooklynBalla Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean.When people hate nvidia they’re talking about the top brass that make decisions.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
@@BrooklynBalla but sadly they blame the regular workers as well without second thought. You need to remember not everyone has common sense when it comes to behind the screen stuff...
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir Жыл бұрын
@@BrooklynBalla Clearly you haven't read many comments in the past years. Not just the top guys. Also I'm referring to a lot of the comments on this vid that clearly show how many people "just realize there are good people at Nvidia".
@cloudnine5651
@cloudnine5651 Жыл бұрын
its how the human brain works......you have to be exposed to something to even know it exists....are people just supposed to know without ever being exposed to the knowledge?
@ab185
@ab185 Жыл бұрын
It should also remind the armchair engineers on KZfaq, reddit, etc. to keep their thoughts/opinions to themselves. There are enormous teams of incredibly talented engineers working on these things that have forgotten more than most people know.
@___DRIP___
@___DRIP___ Жыл бұрын
Malcolm seems very young, but he’s incredibly knowledgeable and educated. What a great video so far GN team.
@Agm1995gamer
@Agm1995gamer Жыл бұрын
I've met people who look and sound like him at 35. Besides that, you younger you are when you learn the better you understand.
@Maxi86inAction
@Maxi86inAction Жыл бұрын
Seems like he really loves his job as well 😄
@wongwong1517
@wongwong1517 Жыл бұрын
Looks like he's in his late 20s. Steve could too, with a shave.
@Agm1995gamer
@Agm1995gamer Жыл бұрын
@@Maxi86inAction Imagine being a thermal engineer for nvidia at 19 years old.
@fVNzO
@fVNzO Жыл бұрын
@@Agm1995gamer Not true. Neuroplasticity does not stop at 25. And guided learning is always more effective than opportunistic.
@Offbreed309
@Offbreed309 Жыл бұрын
I love the in depth discussions on topics like this. Easily could've been twice as long, but I love longer format vids.
@jtland4842
@jtland4842 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to all you guys at GN as well as Malcolm especially, I may have just realized my passion for Thermal Engineering. It is hard to describe how potentially special this video and moment is to me. I have followed you guys at GN for many years always interested in especially cooler testing which may have been slowly preparing me for this video here. Thank you guys so much for making these kinds of videos because they really help to inspire many others like me as well as provide so much education and consumer advice.
@peejay1981
@peejay1981 Жыл бұрын
I hope you like calculus! Will be an interesting career.
@usefulidiot21
@usefulidiot21 Жыл бұрын
I'm a mechanical engineer and thermodynamics might've been the hardest classes I had in college, so you'll be fine as long as you like the challenge.
@kornydad14
@kornydad14 Жыл бұрын
As an Aerospace Engineer myself, this discussion was awesome. To have the computing power that Nvidia has at there fingertips to run CFD must be amazing. Most companies have to rent computing power at an incredible cost to run the types of simulations he is talking about. A company I worked for ran a similar study for a fan design we were working on for automotive and it was thousands of dollars just to rent the compute for the few days needed to run the study. This was after we tired running the simulation on our own custom CFD machine with 64 cores and the 4 A6000 an over $60,000 dollar machine at the time. Nvidia probably has 10 times the computing power just lying around.
@SplitTheBeat
@SplitTheBeat Жыл бұрын
Nvidia has whole server farms filled with quadro rtx cards at their disposal. It is as the guy said, they have access to near infinite compute power
@jay-5061
@jay-5061 Жыл бұрын
theyre likely not lying around tho. probably renting it out like u said.
@SplitTheBeat
@SplitTheBeat Жыл бұрын
@@jay-5061 They can't have that amount of compute power "laying around". It's stored in hundreds of server racks in special rooms, in buildings the size of a walmart. They connect to that horsepower via multigigabit glass fibre just as any paying client would, but possibly with more features because it's their own shit after all. This is basically engineer heaven lmao
@kornydad14
@kornydad14 Жыл бұрын
Too be clear, I know it's not just "lying around" but simply meant they probably have access to almost all the compute power not currently in use by customers or other dev teams.
@jrsmithunited
@jrsmithunited Жыл бұрын
I've worked with Nvidia and Dell for drug discovery. You need to add some 00s on the end of how much GPUs they have 'lying around'. They are a sizeable provider in the compute-time space. But small fry compared to those who specialize in it obviously.
@chrits3396
@chrits3396 Жыл бұрын
This is probably the advert Nvidia can receive. Seeing a young and talented engineer explain his contribution to just the cooler alone makes me interested in the product and also interested in other aspects of it.
@butterfingersman
@butterfingersman Жыл бұрын
incredibly informational to go this deep on this new cooler. thank you for getting together and making this!
@whaaaat_scoobs
@whaaaat_scoobs Жыл бұрын
Thank you NVIDIA and GN for doing this video. I gotta be honest, like many other commenters I have come to think of NVIDIA as a faceless, evil corpo like those straight out of CP2077. Malcolm rocks, the PR guy letting him roll with it rocks, and whoever allowed him to bring all the samples and explain his work designing and testing the new founders cooler deserves a pat on the back. Please do more like this steve!
@vash_dakari
@vash_dakari Жыл бұрын
You can tell how proud Malcom is of this card. That's his baby that he's been working on for a while now, and to see it all together and coming out has got to be a great feeling.
@BrySA20000
@BrySA20000 Жыл бұрын
Malcolm seems like a genuinely nice and knowlegdeable guy, something very different compared to nvidia execs
@Kley96
@Kley96 Жыл бұрын
And he is so handsome too!
@da-yb2nn
@da-yb2nn Жыл бұрын
@@Kley96 Of course Nvidia engineers are Chads
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
@@da-yb2nn he looks like a bottom though
@yournan7249
@yournan7249 Жыл бұрын
@@Kley96 ikr some people have life set to easy mode. bro spawned with good looks, height and knowledge to get free cards forever
@popthiccle1158
@popthiccle1158 Жыл бұрын
@@yournan7249 bro he's an engineer. nobody gives a shit what u look like if u don't have the knownledge to make a good product.
@whirledpeaz5758
@whirledpeaz5758 Жыл бұрын
The crossover between this and the aerospace industry must be fascinating.
@TennisGvy
@TennisGvy Жыл бұрын
It's a lot more in depth than cooling typical for electronic boxes in the space or aero application. Aerospace has its own challenges for cooling though in things like turbine blades, hypersonic airframes, etc.
@JohnChuprun
@JohnChuprun Жыл бұрын
Love the detailed videos and technical insight instead of just watered down high level stuff. Would like to see more of it. Thanks.
@AllSeeingEy3
@AllSeeingEy3 Жыл бұрын
Hey yall, microscope tip from another validation guy: Sandbag the table your scope is on and put neoprene sheeting underneath it. That will keep your heartbeat from showing up in the video. For irregular samples, keep some play dough or modeling clay handy! Moosh it into the clay, and it won't wobble while you're moving the stage. Love your work!
@gmualum08
@gmualum08 Жыл бұрын
I was a pre-engineering major in college (wanted to do mechanical engineering). Hearing Malcom talk in his engineering lingo, while fascinating, made me realize I made the right decision changing majors and doing this as a hobby instead. I just couldn't do the math lol.
@mickolesmana5899
@mickolesmana5899 Жыл бұрын
welcome to engineering mate :)
@m8x425
@m8x425 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.... it ain't easy. I know a lot of people that dropped out or changed majors because of the math.
@NoName-to5xl
@NoName-to5xl Жыл бұрын
I made it till the end... its best not to force it, you made the right choice.
@ligametis
@ligametis Жыл бұрын
Engineering is comparably light on math compared to pure math studies or physics
@jeromeg9289
@jeromeg9289 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome guest to have, Malcolm is clearly passioned about his field and he explains everything so effectively. Real pleasure to listen to.
@notwhatitwasbefore
@notwhatitwasbefore Жыл бұрын
Best bit is imagining the PR guys face as he fails to keep up. Excellent video
@Liquid_Truth
@Liquid_Truth Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Nobody doing it like Gamers Nexus.
@Chriscrusty
@Chriscrusty Жыл бұрын
the video's not even out long enough for you to have watched it lmao
@lightchips6164
@lightchips6164 Жыл бұрын
@@Chriscrusty He watched it at 2x speed lol
@snoochpounder
@snoochpounder Жыл бұрын
Der8auer is also doing great work imo but yeah GN is sick af
@InvadeNormandy
@InvadeNormandy Жыл бұрын
@@linuxsnob For your username you sure are missing the point. IE: "We're checking if this vapor chamber claim is marketing hokum and bunk or legitimate, and whether or not it's well designed. Which will have ramifications for cooling solutions and after market decisions and let you know if it's competently made or trash." Thus saving countless people potentially money or letting them know if there's any faith to be had in at least a part of the product. You're welcome, I did all your thinking for you.
@Chriscrusty
@Chriscrusty Жыл бұрын
@@linuxsnob this is bait
@johnpvaldez99
@johnpvaldez99 Жыл бұрын
This dude is seriously underrated, really appreciate his journalism (Newegg videos) and an appreciation for engineering like this one. Also it’s good to not be treated like a teen like some of those video’s from LTT.
@manuele.itriagom.728
@manuele.itriagom.728 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's underrated
@rallelevin6102
@rallelevin6102 Жыл бұрын
He's not underrated
@DaniIhzaFarrosi
@DaniIhzaFarrosi Жыл бұрын
He’s not underrated
@hytalefanboi7471
@hytalefanboi7471 Жыл бұрын
Gamers Nexus has 1.74 Million subscribers, how can he be underrated
@handsomesquidward151
@handsomesquidward151 Жыл бұрын
Are you ESL or did you fail English class and don't know what underrated means lmao
@DustinHarms
@DustinHarms Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate just digging into it fully, while having the on-screen descriptors to help. Makes it so much easier to follow along when I can just pause to define something. =) Really great.
@timothyblitzkreepisaac7448
@timothyblitzkreepisaac7448 Жыл бұрын
One of the best and most comprehensive explanations of how coolers work! Really enjoyed this video!
@zackmatey1793
@zackmatey1793 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. This is why GN is the best reviewer in the industry right now
@lilblackduc7312
@lilblackduc7312 Жыл бұрын
He's always been "that smart kid with the scruffy beard & long hair". (8yrs ago) He started gaining recognition just a couple years ago, finally.
@dougtemple8474
@dougtemple8474 Жыл бұрын
Clearly, Malcolm paid a lot of attention in the thermodynamics portion of his physics courses and it really grabbed him. Loads of really interesting stuff in this video, I'm sure a lot of it went over many viewers' heads (a lot went over my head but I understood a lot of what he was at least trying to get at.) When he's done working for nVidia I could see this guy being a physics professor at a university.
@timlaunyc
@timlaunyc Жыл бұрын
In engineering, thermo is its own set of classes. But, airflow may be covered in a fluid dynamic class(es).
@kingplunger6033
@kingplunger6033 Жыл бұрын
prof for engineering courses yes, "pure" physics no (ofc he might be able to, but apart from some intro courses, physics is very different)
@duncancampbell3768
@duncancampbell3768 Жыл бұрын
I very much enjoy it when you bring the passionate people behind the designs to explain things. Please keep it up!
@IanSinclair77
@IanSinclair77 Жыл бұрын
He was fantastic. Great presentation skills, enthusiastic and very professional. Well done.
@jasonjavelin
@jasonjavelin Жыл бұрын
Mad lads, such an awesome video. That engineer kicks ass and was awesome on camera. What a chill and super knowledgeable guy in his craft
@bizzehdee
@bizzehdee Жыл бұрын
Malcolm from NVIDIA seems super young, and incredibly inteligent... Gonna have a long and well paid career in front of him
@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Жыл бұрын
I know a lot younger intelligent people would be hired if more companies looked at merit/ability rather than 'experience' and who you know. I would be excited to see what could be accomplished by giving them the right resources and guidance. ...Hmmm, maybe I can arrange something.
@markholmes2419
@markholmes2419 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. I'm not an engineer and didn't fully understand everything (by a long way 🙂) but it's always delightful to listen to people speak when they are truly knowledgeable and obviously passionate about their subject. Steve's interviewing technique was also absolutley perfect; only chipping in when clarification was needed or to keep the flow and direction going. Great stuff!
@cassiohui
@cassiohui Жыл бұрын
one of the best videos on the channel. please make more of these engineering deep dives.
@NewbGamingNetworks
@NewbGamingNetworks Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to finally hear the technical side of things. This is a “unique” generation where advertising like this works, so to some degree it makes sense why they did it.
@drgngd
@drgngd Жыл бұрын
Thank you GN for always trying to teach us something new every day. Your channel is amazing because you actually cover not just what the hardware is and what it's specs are, but why and how they're designed. I'm glad you're able to get engineers and other highly qualified people on for these kinds of videos. I'm also glad that your brutally honest reviews don't get in the way of manufacturers being willing to provide this expertise. Keep up the amazing work not only Steve but all of those who work at GN.
@muamercormehic4843
@muamercormehic4843 Жыл бұрын
Steve you got me so hyped with the intro for this video. I love the deep dive and sience videos. Keep up the great work!
@Star-du2od
@Star-du2od Жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite content released on this channel, it's amazing tysm I learned so much
@EugeneNaidoo
@EugeneNaidoo Жыл бұрын
This is why we love GN 🔥
@naor9792
@naor9792 Жыл бұрын
@Jonny Sins what?
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician Жыл бұрын
Behind every leather jacket and whitened smile on a stage there is hundreds of passionate people who actually make the darn thing. It does not make the asking price easier to swallow but hopefully it tempers and/or puts some of the more unreasonable reactions in perspective. This is great content, thank you.
@CynicalWilson
@CynicalWilson Жыл бұрын
Yes! Please more of this type of content! ♥️
@Frustratedfool
@Frustratedfool Жыл бұрын
“Essentially” one of the best videos I’ve watched this year. Loved it.
@captaindildar9581
@captaindildar9581 Жыл бұрын
I can't stand the way NVIDIA operates in the industry but damn do they make some cool tech. Hats off to the engineers!
@edgeldine3499
@edgeldine3499 Жыл бұрын
Engineers vs the Board of Directors
@JustinSlayton
@JustinSlayton Жыл бұрын
Gamernexus has really jumped from a good and informative KZfaq channel to major tech news outlet. Honestly since moving into the new building I have truly seen an amazing jump in quality which is definitely saying something considering I already felt they gave high quality videos.
@yvesmillette1721
@yvesmillette1721 Жыл бұрын
This is the most interesting and best video about PC components I have ever had the pleasure of watching.
@sumikomei
@sumikomei Жыл бұрын
This is so cool, I love seeing all of the various math and science that goes into something as externally simple as "how to cool a component". Absolutely love this kind of content, probably my favourite overall off the top of my head.
@gcngba22
@gcngba22 Жыл бұрын
This video is super educative and fun. Kudos to the NVDIA engineer, the nexus production team and the donors that make this Content possible. 👏
@Deltarious
@Deltarious Жыл бұрын
Watching videos like this always makes me wonder what NVIDIA's engineers and technical staff *really* think of their company's marketing and pricing strategies and how they feel generally about the reputation of their company. It would be wildly inappropriate to go around asking in most cases, but when you have people this intelligent contrasted against the almost predatory tactics companies sometimes use I can't help but wonder.
@ApolloPS2
@ApolloPS2 Жыл бұрын
I mean the real answer is that those "predatory" tactics help balloon their salaries so they can work amongst the best talent and develop high cost cards that still have healthy margins. This thermal engineering R&D costs serious money to obtain.
@ligametis
@ligametis Жыл бұрын
Most likely he has no idea how much everything costs. People working in finance know that way better
@Sharkey007x
@Sharkey007x Жыл бұрын
these are always fucking fascinating, thank you Steve and thank you Malcom for being able to come and do the interview!
@shapelike
@shapelike Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed how authentic this conversation felt and how informative if was. Really great content, fantastic guest.
@jeffhampton6972
@jeffhampton6972 Жыл бұрын
This is so much fun to watch. You two are the types that make people want to learn math because it's actually cool.
@Snarkbar
@Snarkbar Жыл бұрын
Malcolm makes me want to go back and get a math PHD.
@Watchfulfox
@Watchfulfox Жыл бұрын
Working at NASA did that for me.
@PHF28
@PHF28 Жыл бұрын
It's always awesome to see the amount of knowledge, engineering and manufacturing work dedicated to things that are going to be hidden. And cool to see that NVIDIA recognised the marketing potential of this. Great job, Steve.
@jean-paulpitman2172
@jean-paulpitman2172 Жыл бұрын
My new favorite video this year! Keep up the awesome content GN.
@JDelta87
@JDelta87 Жыл бұрын
It's always good when an engineer is going over what went into making the actual product. He is naturally excited to explain the entire process and PR didn't seem to interfere at all. Great content and information everyone!
@BrianPardee
@BrianPardee Жыл бұрын
This was very neat. Thanks, Steve and crew for doing this video. It's these kind of technical videos which keep me engaged with GN compared to some other channels.
@christophercasale7961
@christophercasale7961 Жыл бұрын
It's great to have a deep dive with someone who is both deeply knowledgeable and passionate. I learned a bunch of things about vapor chambers and fans today.
@thepowerplayer4530
@thepowerplayer4530 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, and this had to be probably one of my favorite GN videos, because it’s very rare (especially with nvidia) to get actual engineers to talk to the press, and they get to share all of the cool things they’ve been working so hard on. Also he was really enthusiastic about what he does and you can tell he really enjoys what he does, which just made the whole video so much fun to watch
@dog_knight
@dog_knight Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I understood most, but not all of it. Incredibly interesting. Will have to watch it a few more times for it to sink in. It’s great to see all the effort that goes into these products and how passionate the people behind the leather jacket are.
@foxtrap614tango8
@foxtrap614tango8 Жыл бұрын
This is just awesome. I am an engineer and this is really enjoyable.
@Wintergreen56
@Wintergreen56 Жыл бұрын
The fan calculations were great to hear about. These are some of my favorite types of videos from GN. It's great to hear all the information from someone who is so enthusiastic about it.
@Wallguy
@Wallguy Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is depth and insight we rarely see on the topic. Fantastic quality content GN!
@Shive1337
@Shive1337 Жыл бұрын
This has been one of the most educational videos I've ever seen on your channel. Learned a lot, thanks!
@chrisfortune1813
@chrisfortune1813 Жыл бұрын
Love the engineering overload. Odd how physics is physics and many of the concepts overlap different specific disciplines. I was an oilfield researcher in my younger days and the "rarefied" concepts of porosity and permeability were voodoo science (I am talking early '80s here) and now they are discussed in tech heavy but almost mainstream media conversation. This is one of the most enjoyable videos I have watched recently an I hope it is the prelude to many more deeper dives.
@freeroamer6962
@freeroamer6962 Жыл бұрын
Ok guys, how refreshing was it to see a competent person explaining the decisions and problems overcome in the design of the new tech you're contemplating (possibly lusting after, for better or worse. lol) Kudos to GN for serving those of us who are really tired of the marketing arms of a lot of these tech companies. You have "tech junkies" who have been in this game longer than some of your employees, we want the nitty gritty, and even if its not some "gamer fueled" marketing blitz, we will still choose your product based on our understanding of the competance you displayed at solving the problems presented to you, because we understand that is what pushes technology forward, overcoming obstacles, and that doesn't always present itself with some new breakthrough, but by a foundational understanding of what is known to us now. I for one put this in my running for all time best breakdowns/explanations. (Also, I hope someone high up at Nvidia took notice of their boy being an actual "giga-chad", through foundational knowledge and a willingness to explain in detail. You can'tbuy passion like that.)
@QuakeGamerROTMG
@QuakeGamerROTMG Жыл бұрын
Always great to see someone super passionate about their job so excited to share their knowledge
@Thardoc
@Thardoc Жыл бұрын
My favorite video in a while, that was fascinating
@MadPhantom
@MadPhantom Жыл бұрын
Before we get any reviews we got one cut in half
@Daishi0861
@Daishi0861 Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly interesting, thank you so much for sharing this wonderful deep-dive. Couldn't have had a better person on to explain this, he was very technical while still understandable. I loved hearing about how you can actually dry out a vapor chamber and also the ways in which they combat it, I'd never considered that aspect and it seems like a pretty significant chunk of effort to get right!
@hovant6666
@hovant6666 Жыл бұрын
Incredible content this vid, my gratitude to you and Malcom!
@MartynDerg
@MartynDerg Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this video and I loved that you explained all the terminology as it went. I feel like I completely understand what was said when normally all of this stuff would just go completely over my head
@moonlightknight6877
@moonlightknight6877 Жыл бұрын
Loving the in depth content! Thank you for your hard work GN team.
@peachierose3356
@peachierose3356 Жыл бұрын
GN never disappoints🔥
@ricardoreis7298
@ricardoreis7298 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see more technical videos.
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