Cutting Open Makita Battery Cells to Prove they use Tabless Cells. Yes there was fire!

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I show the difference between a Tabless Cell and a Tabbed Cell, with Explosive Results.
Kids don't try this at home. Viewer Discretion is Advised.
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00:00 Introduction
03:19 Cutting Open A Tabless Cell
09:30 Unrolling
16:31 Tabbed Cell
17:27 Uh Oh...
24:08 Final Proof

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@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 18 күн бұрын
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@gs188
@gs188 2 ай бұрын
Your problem was you dismembered the first cell infront of its mates - this made the pixies extra angry and they wern’t gonna stand for it.
@BIGWIGGLE223
@BIGWIGGLE223 2 ай бұрын
You're absolutely correct. He said that this unchecked aggression will not stand. Then he turned into a rocket.
@jayschuon8330
@jayschuon8330 2 ай бұрын
Damn, that was exciting!!! Don’t try this at home kids !!! I thought to myself at the beginning,” why is he doing this inside?” . Thanks for doing this. Now I never have to
@whitechris720
@whitechris720 2 ай бұрын
You took one for the team, thanks. I learned a lot.
@harveycreekin
@harveycreekin 2 ай бұрын
Big Clive would be proud 👍
@wordplayful
@wordplayful 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very valuable lesson. I will never take these batteries apart and never buy generic brand batteries.
@gf2e
@gf2e 2 ай бұрын
I opened up a knockoff Ryobi battery. There was no insulation between the metal on the springs and the battery terminals. If the springs got out of position slightly, then you’d short out two cells. The springs were held in place with *masking tape*.
@Dude-xv4os
@Dude-xv4os Ай бұрын
@@gf2ewow. Thats terrifying. And you got 5 or 10 of those bitches inside a plastic housing that is flammable instead of just one in a metal casing.
@mattfowler4042
@mattfowler4042 2 ай бұрын
As a plumber watching this it looks like you're turning the pipeslice the wrong way. Typically you lead with the rollers on the cutter. And I would typically be adjusting 1/4 turn on the adjuster per revolution and doing more turns to prevent burring the ends
@harryd1664
@harryd1664 2 ай бұрын
This was actually pretty educational. Learnt alot about batteries. Amazing to think how much we pay for them...
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad it was useful for you.
@cynic256
@cynic256 2 ай бұрын
A standard 21700 isn't really that expensive. Like $4. We all know copper isn't cheap, and I assume a lot of the cost is simply the skill of the workers and the safety protocols when making these batteries. One mistake and the factory goes up in flames
@BaberJacks
@BaberJacks 2 ай бұрын
​@@cynic256 dont forget profit margin
@FIN4L_BOSS
@FIN4L_BOSS 2 ай бұрын
after watching the fireball at quarter speed playback you sir have quick reflexes. as soon as the fire released from he cell you dropped that sucker like a hot potatoe!
@Modifier73
@Modifier73 2 ай бұрын
Nice! Managed to get the same results trying to repair a ryobi battery. Angry little buggers!
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
They sure are.
@chimairanl9043
@chimairanl9043 Ай бұрын
No wonder that prototype XGT blowtorch is not on the market yet. The safety leaves a lot to be desired. Interesting video!
@nfi2nfi2
@nfi2nfi2 2 ай бұрын
👍🏻 😂 risked burns for an internet I told you so. Anyway next have you thought about doing a few episodes on old cordless like stuff from previous decades vs newest cordless equivalents. I know pretty chalk and cheese type stuff, but could an old cordless drill juiced up on the lastest and greatest cells at least put it into acceptable range of power. 😂 what could go wrong feeding the motor all the pixies it can handle.
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for risking your life for us!
@robertdascoli949
@robertdascoli949 2 ай бұрын
17:30 I have a feeling this will be the most replayed section of the video.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
I don't know why?
@afikzach
@afikzach 2 ай бұрын
The best video on your channel
@thicomsauerland
@thicomsauerland 2 ай бұрын
That was very interesting. Thanks for showing and explaining. Glad you survived. 😉 Greetings from Germany.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it.
@BIGWIGGLE223
@BIGWIGGLE223 2 ай бұрын
I f'ing love this channel!! Where else are you gonna go from laughing your ass off to white knuckling the armchair and back to laughing your ass off in the 1st 5 mins of a video?? I once got a wild hair up my ass and decided that I was gonna solder some watch batteries in series for a project I was working on and I just wasn't thinking it all the way through and I kept that soldering iron on that tiny battery just a couple of seconds too long and that little battery blew right up in my face. It got real hot, real swole, real fast and after it blew up and evaporated, I got peppered with debris. That damn thing was so loud when it went off its comparable to shooting a .45 Cal pistol without ear protection. My ears were ringing for the rest of the day after that.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 ай бұрын
You NEVER solder these cells, ever. Only spot welding is allowed
@BIGWIGGLE223
@BIGWIGGLE223 2 ай бұрын
@@riba2233 Yeah yeah..... Tell that to my much younger self. He was an idiot. He had to learn things the hard way. He once had to learn that it's a terrible idea to think you can be fast enough to solder a nickel tab to a 21700 as well. At least that idiot drained the battery and did it outside. One of these days I'll get that idiot a spot welder and he'll quit trying to kill me and burn down my home. Lol!!
@R2_D3
@R2_D3 Ай бұрын
Best ''money shot'' I've seen in ages! 😁
@shawnlachance4427
@shawnlachance4427 2 ай бұрын
Well that settles it!!! Well done!
@ericwolff6059
@ericwolff6059 2 ай бұрын
ElectroBOOM meets Big Clive, Kiwi style. ;-)
@dazaspc
@dazaspc 2 ай бұрын
Damn your fucking money shot. I just sprayed a mouthful of Coffee at the computer screen via my nose. But seriously I can see why the welded tab batteries cause issues. Just the current charge/discharge ability of the tabless would be so much better.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Sorry
@reggiecoupe
@reggiecoupe 2 ай бұрын
That was fucking epic, love it.
@pete_lind
@pete_lind Ай бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Good idea cut it on top of water in steel bucket . The best way to deal with lithium ion battery fire by test , or dump salt on it , also takes lot of energy to melt. Powders and foams specially made for lithium ion fire fighting are less effective.
@gaz1967
@gaz1967 2 ай бұрын
That was a pucker up moment.
@Dude-xv4os
@Dude-xv4os Ай бұрын
Fucker up moment
@kristene2372
@kristene2372 2 ай бұрын
Dangerous, but o so cool! Thanks for the fun Enjoyed watching
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 2 ай бұрын
Well, that's exciting!
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
My underwear wasn't so impressed.
@newt2010
@newt2010 Ай бұрын
Wife just left. Good timing...............Wife returns. Where in the hell is our house?!?!
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 ай бұрын
Perfect video, hope that some folks will take a look at it :)
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
You and me both!
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
I've never laughed so much at one of my own videos.
@fdrskr
@fdrskr 2 ай бұрын
Большое спасибо, это очень интересно
@ferbusch
@ferbusch 2 ай бұрын
Any clues if makita will come out with a new table saw anytime soon?
@cheechU38K
@cheechU38K 2 ай бұрын
Cool 😎 next video putting it back together 😝
@KalanYTRock
@KalanYTRock 2 ай бұрын
I loved the reaction, great stuff! I wish you had a mask on, unlike during the pandemic. 😅
@dancearoundtheworld5360
@dancearoundtheworld5360 2 ай бұрын
not July yet, thanks for the firework show 😁
@sassall4284
@sassall4284 2 ай бұрын
That was exciting
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Good fun aye!
@mattio79
@mattio79 2 ай бұрын
My friend and I felled a Dogwood that was ~12-13 meters tall with my XCU11 chainsaw. It's an amazing single-battery LXT chainsaw. I'd like to see your take on it.
@shawnlachance4427
@shawnlachance4427 2 ай бұрын
Now I understand what it looks like when a Chinese EV catches fire!!! Hahaha Tools and stuff should have 10 million subscribers!!! Great shit!
@tableshaper4076
@tableshaper4076 2 ай бұрын
That was fun for me!
@kent9090
@kent9090 2 ай бұрын
17:30 Now i know how im gonna save money on fireworks. Happy new year!
@minispud
@minispud 2 ай бұрын
when "She'll be right" meets "...shit"
@wearsjorge55
@wearsjorge55 2 ай бұрын
Interesting to see it broken down like this. Do you have bite marks in your chair now?
@shanepipkin4041
@shanepipkin4041 2 ай бұрын
wondering what husqvarna 36 volt is
@newt2010
@newt2010 Ай бұрын
What???? The earth isn't flat? Now, I have to check that out. Cheers, good day
@Not2480
@Not2480 8 күн бұрын
4th of july,,,yeah! Lungs !!!! Be care,Dude
@probsty13
@probsty13 2 ай бұрын
you turned a battery into a rocket and took it like a champ. definitely earned my sub for that one. plus you are a funny fucker and took it in stride. good shit
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
*Cheers!*
@wearetheremnants1615
@wearetheremnants1615 Ай бұрын
Still no hi output in uk 😢
@timmccall8318
@timmccall8318 2 ай бұрын
If the second “tabbed cell” measured 0v it’s likely that the CID had popped and the cell was still partially charged.
@TheMschipp
@TheMschipp 2 ай бұрын
Money shot indeed
@user-fe2gk9rk2w
@user-fe2gk9rk2w 2 ай бұрын
Честно был удивлен, что первая не загорелась, а только вторая)
@wayward-saint
@wayward-saint Ай бұрын
Anyone know if Makita plans to upgrade their 18v batteries?
@riba2233
@riba2233 Ай бұрын
the eternal question :D we have seen some patents on 18v packs with lipo cells.
@DanielTesla74
@DanielTesla74 2 ай бұрын
So hydrogen ignites. Hmm, go figure... Anyway, thank you for revealing how modern batteries are made and why the cost of quality, brand ones is justified.
@wrefk
@wrefk 2 ай бұрын
if you do this again put the batteries in salt water first few a day or two, it'll drain to 0v and can no longer combust really impressive how the tabless design is finally spreading to marketed batteries, sold and in consumer hands. it seems like such a simple and basic advancement in battery design but it took tesla to get the idea out there for everyone to start using, giving a nice bump in capabilities to the batteries.
@cynic256
@cynic256 2 ай бұрын
How much of an 'advancement' is it really? Is it significant?
@wrefk
@wrefk 2 ай бұрын
@@cynic256 it probably allows for just a few more amps, not massive but noticable. The real benefit is it allows faster manufacturing, and should increase yield since it is more reliable, those tabs are a failure point
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
30% more powerful when in a Makita 4Ah battery. So pretty significant.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 ай бұрын
It is massive, these chonker can do 50a or more no problem, while the regular one is at 30.
@cynic256
@cynic256 2 ай бұрын
@@riba2233 do you know if Dewalt uses any tabless cells? I'm in Dewalt ecosystem
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount 2 ай бұрын
Kiwi WHS video!
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
They probably wouldn't hire me.
@dogbreath6974
@dogbreath6974 2 ай бұрын
I wish I hadn't seen this video, thinking of all the lithium batteries I have around my home, scary.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
I know. Imagine how I feel living above this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oN-hrLt63eDZYo0.html
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
I'm rethinking my Tool Battery Storage...
@patbird9694
@patbird9694 2 ай бұрын
Boom
@nicoquattro3950
@nicoquattro3950 2 ай бұрын
carefulling.........carefulling............ PFEEEEEWW You need to work on your fire extinguisher reaction time 😂 How did your wife react?
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
She edited the video.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
And surprisingly didn't tell me off... much.
@georgedavall9449
@georgedavall9449 2 ай бұрын
I. N. C. R. E. D. I. B. L. E. !!!!!!!!!!!!
@robertcasey3528
@robertcasey3528 2 ай бұрын
And we have blast off
@danielreynolds6498
@danielreynolds6498 2 ай бұрын
X10 terrifying imagine an electric car. 1000 maybe !!!! Or more
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's pretty frightening when you see how much energy just one of them has.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 ай бұрын
Tesla has almost 9000 in model S packs :)
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Scary stuff indeed.
@danielreynolds6498
@danielreynolds6498 2 ай бұрын
@@riba2233 Hectic …. Massive thermal runaway effect.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 ай бұрын
@@danielreynolds6498 luckily it happens extremely rarely :)
@dk2428
@dk2428 2 ай бұрын
Who needs HIT cardio, when you can just cut open batteries. 😄
@newt2010
@newt2010 Ай бұрын
NASA, we have a problem
@frenchyroastify
@frenchyroastify 2 ай бұрын
I think kids would try this at home.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
But now that I've told them not to, surely they won't.
@isaaccaris9530
@isaaccaris9530 Ай бұрын
I hear chaves lees Jeje yaiks
@ProToolsApproved
@ProToolsApproved 2 ай бұрын
A ha ha ha. Good on you calling out those idiots. I know exactly which big mouth fools you're talking about.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
I've had a lot of them it the past few days. Every time I release a Makita vid before everyone else, some muppet will always call them fake because "they've" never heard of it and that they "Googled it and found nothing, so it isn't real". I'm glad I'm not that stupid.
@anthonygsr98
@anthonygsr98 2 ай бұрын
Xgt 40v bottle rocket!
@martinmorris8862
@martinmorris8862 2 ай бұрын
Always enjoy the vids. Over here in the UK we are very often the last country to receive new tech. With ref to the “tabless” battery they have been around for many years and the web is full of information on them. Even Tesla unveiled plans back in 2020 to develop a “tabless” battery and they now hold 2 patents on a tabbed cathode and a tabless anode. In the patent, they mention several times that the actual implementation may have tabless on both the covers or the ends of the battery cell. Cutting open,(especially when you don’t check its drained first. Poo in the pants lol) a battery is never the best and as you will know full of toxic noxious substances hence why batteries & particularly new batteries are very bad for the environments and largely non recyclable. There is a good illustration of the tables in the Tesla patents. You are spot on the Internet, is only a mere fraction of information the overall global datasphere reached 64 zettabytes in 2020 not even a fraction of the worldwide data available offline.
@riba2233
@riba2233 2 ай бұрын
these are the first commercially available packs with tabless cells, it definitely is a new tech and tesla only had an idea in 2020 and they are using them now only in one model probably (they def weren't around for "many" years). so this video is very important especially because many didn't believe that makita actually used this new tech.
@martinmorris8862
@martinmorris8862 2 ай бұрын
@@riba2233 They are not the first comercialy available by any means. It is well known tech. Tabless design was well noted by many battery industry observers when it came onto the market in 2009, Tesla have looked into the new battery design since it became public in 2009 maybe before then. They had the tech in research for a number of years before developing and now holding 2 patents on a tabbed cathode and a tabless anode they use on some car models since 2020. I don’t need to go into the list of companies that have and use tables but A few you may know Tesla, DeWalt, Ridgid , Makita , Bosch announced a new ProCore 18V+ cordless power tool battery that's engineered with tabless 21700 Li-ion cells back in Nov 2023. Some tool manufacturers have marketed tables late 2023 with many appearing on the market early 2024feb March. Trade shows in 2023 were sporting the new tech commercial. It may be new to some of the public but the technology is not new by any means.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
If you had watched the video you would have learnt that Makita did it well before Bosch. Makita announced them at least 2 years ago and they came to fruition in Mid 2023. My first, in hand, video of the 1st Makita tabless pack was early September 2023.
@samday6621
@samday6621 2 ай бұрын
Does your wife know you’ve been doing this?!
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Keep watching...
@video_gabes
@video_gabes 2 ай бұрын
Dude I'm squinting just watching this
@Dude-xv4os
@Dude-xv4os Ай бұрын
Man I remember hearing about the BL4040F coming out back in October, we STILL DONT HAVE IT IN THE US
@ToolTimeToday
@ToolTimeToday 2 ай бұрын
ha ha ha ha 17:31 where the 21700 explodes on you, well what can i say......your reaction was priceless!! i did exactly the same but outside because i knew what was going to happen. Good job you didn't set fire to anything as it could have been a lot worse for sure. A friend of mine passed me some 18650 a few yrs ago while traveling in his car down the motorway they were very hot after taking them out of his vape product, trust me they got launched out of the window in an instant ! luck for me there was no one behind.
@deadduck4041
@deadduck4041 Ай бұрын
Wikipedia_ Street sign theft occurs when street signs are stolen to be used as decorations or sold as scrap metal, or as show here as a sturdy work top .....😆😆😆Careful of those batteries Mate👍.
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@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Ай бұрын
Well it wasn't stolen. Someone crashed into it outside my house and when it was replaced they left this one laying on my front lawn.
@deadduck4041
@deadduck4041 Ай бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL One man’s rubbish is another man’s Gold…Get it weighed in mate be worth’s fiver 😆👍🏻
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@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
*My original BL4040F Review* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNqiadmbnbWpmY0.html
@Not2480
@Not2480 8 күн бұрын
Are the tabs,,?? Like hair,,?
@CraigGrunenfelder
@CraigGrunenfelder 2 ай бұрын
and there is the next great ecological disaster rolled up into that little cylinder! Thanks for the dissection!
@marcellinden7305
@marcellinden7305 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm... Tools is getting into rocketry....Awesome.... Almost as exciting as a Chinese EV.
@San-et5xh
@San-et5xh 2 ай бұрын
Did U burn a hole in your pants
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Close to it.
@bowesterlund3719
@bowesterlund3719 8 күн бұрын
Man! At the very least: Use proper chem gloves and a respirator!!! The electrolyte reacts with the moisture in the air and produces HF gas. No joke. Very poisonous and injuries may only be detected the day after (when it is too late). Take care! ❤
@HotForgeChaos
@HotForgeChaos 2 ай бұрын
AvE would respect the massive skidmark left on your healing bench
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