Cwmbargoed:66171 on 6C83 uses maximum effort to depart Colliery/protesters present 06/07/2023

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5 ай бұрын

This recording was made when the latest deadline for closure of the mine at the time was the end of July 2023. The deadline was since extended and mining finally ceased on the 30th November 2023 although trains would continue to run between the mine and the steelworks to use the residual coal stock at Cwmbargoed. Besides the train itself the video contains some views of the scenery plus a few protesters present. I have also inserted a couple of my wife's clips of the train. The Class 66 seemed to make heavy weather to get the loaded train on the move when finally departing for Tata Port Talbot steelworks.

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@dh9033 2 ай бұрын

Nicely filmed and edited. Thanks for sharing 😊

@thefakewasp503 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much and I am pleased that you enjoyed watching it.

@Shelfandtabletoplayouts00gauge 5 ай бұрын

Let’s just keep importing it, government policy say’s coal mining is not green Totally hypocritical, it’s more trees we need to clean the air Don’t see a drop in plane journeys Great video 👍

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Bleak. I could not agree with you more, especially as the steelworks is in relatively close proximity (although now it is closing due to economic issues). We do need more trees but there is very little mention of exponential population growth. The source of the problem is the sheer number of humans not coal, aviation fuel or oil etc. Each human born contributes more CO2 (although it is not much of a greenhouse gas compared with methane) by simply breathing before they engage in any other activities. Anyway, I was only there to see the coal train before the mine closed.

@adamreynolds2372 4 ай бұрын

@@thefakewasp503 They're playing right into the hands of the politicians. They want cheaper coal and steel from abroad, which they can spin to look like a green decision. These muppets will never see that by moving it abroad, it's actually worse in every way for the planet and the country.

@nounoufriend1442 4 ай бұрын

Lorry's and cars are bigger polluter yet government policy's are pushing more on road transport , just take the cancelling of HS2 to Manchester

@oddities-whatnot 5 ай бұрын

I wonder if any of those protesters has a job.

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

Maybe some of them are retired but possibly the younger ones have no job as it was a weekday? I was just surprised to see them up there.

@andrewchaston503 5 ай бұрын

Nope all living on Universal credit at my expense. Great

@andrewlawson5779 5 ай бұрын

I doubt it

@oddities-whatnot 5 ай бұрын

@@thefakewasp503 thank you for the reply 👍

@oddities-whatnot 5 ай бұрын

@@andrewchaston503 cheers, i appreciate the reply. Ive bin down the pub all day, I dont work but im not on benefits.

@PeterJ-de4wk 4 ай бұрын

I bet none of the protesters know that coal will be shipped in from Kazakhstan instead as the blast furnaces this pit supplied needs coal period. Really really green that.

@thefakewasp503 4 ай бұрын

You are so right Pete, it does seem ridiculous as the blast furnaces are not many miles away further down the line. The Tata blast furnaces are now to be decommissioned in favour of electric arc furnaces in a few years time but I imagine they will need to import coal from some far off regions in the meantime.

@boblovell5789 4 ай бұрын

If we get a national emergency, these green warriors should realise that importants could well stop. How would that be for industry? No doubt extraction would reopen in a flash.

@thefakewasp503 4 ай бұрын

You are quite right, you can't just stop something such as coal or oil because you believe it is causing harm. Well the coal production in the UK will cease but many other countries will carry on producing it and we will then need to import it at more expense to the environment and pocket. Maybe the emphasis should be on the source of the problem i.e. humans with exponential population growth.

@Dunstire 4 ай бұрын

The power of those things is insane and it still baffles me how they get traction,i know there's lots of physics and science behind it and don't don't want to be lectured by some anorak,it just amazes me

@nounoufriend1442 4 ай бұрын

I find it amazing they can haul train up incline yet the loco brakes alone cannot hold train , yet I work on the bloody things

@thefakewasp503 4 ай бұрын

It's something to do with the co-efficient of static and dynamic friction but as I learnt that kind of thing so long ago I can't remember any of the physics now!

@JonBowe 4 ай бұрын

sand helps from the loco hoppers. Automatic after a certain speed. Cl 60s are more efficient at this, that is why they can move heavier haulage.

@andrewlawson5779 5 ай бұрын

If they don't have a life they have to complain about something, my complaint is he only had one locomotive to haul that train.

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

Well you are right an additional locomotive would have made an enormous difference. I have seen single 66s struggling whilst getting a fully loaded coal train on the move up there before but have never witnessed any protesters present before.

@stephendavies6949 5 ай бұрын

How about a triple header class 37s to haul the last-ever coal train?

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

That is a great idea Stephen and it would be a great sight and sound. I also thought a steam loco would be appropriate as Ffos y Fran has been the main source of quality steam coal supply for the heritage sector.

@stephendavies6949 5 ай бұрын

@@thefakewasp503 3 37s one end & double headed steam traction the other?

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

@@stephendavies6949 Now that sounds even better!

@markappleby3282 4 ай бұрын

How ironic at the end. A coal train passing a solar farm. The clean and polluter side by side. Great video

@thefakewasp503 4 ай бұрын

Thank you Mark. Yes it is a paradox but it helped power the equipment at the colliery (maybe to reduce cost?). Anyway the mine has now closed and the whole area is supposed to be restored to a natural environment.

@user-oo3qh8mr9d 3 ай бұрын

somebody should have told them its not the train drivers and yard staff trading fosil fuels they work for a company that does .

@thefakewasp503 3 ай бұрын

You are right. The railway transported the coal to the Port Talbot steelworks and also a cement works at Hope in the Midlands. The railway system at Cwmbargoed I believe is private and owned by the mining company Merthyr (South Wales) but the rail drivers and yard staff drive trains belonging to the freight companies and not the colliery. .

@user-oo3qh8mr9d 3 ай бұрын

@@thefakewasp503 would have used maybe 10 times more fossil fuels to get that imported for the stealworks from abroad .in fact it would be not be viable to run the mill . so the economy will struggle everybody misserable and now we are getting all our steal imported if closing founry .more missery for everybody and fossil fuels would be 10 times more . i could go on but it makes me sad wasting so much time thinking about such ill thought out and misplaced protests. makes protesters look stupid has a whole . i bet they think the earth is flat to

@Urnieburns70 5 ай бұрын

Must be one of the only few trains in the UK with auto couplers...

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

Yes it seems very efficient as it is not only the manual couplers but also the air brakes and electrics.

@nounoufriend1442 4 ай бұрын

@@thefakewasp503 66 auto coupler does not couple brakes or multiple working electrics like on passenger trains

@cosmiccolonel 5 ай бұрын

EMD if I’m not mistaken…….

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

I might be a bit thick here, but what does EMD stand for?

@cosmiccolonel 5 ай бұрын

@@thefakewasp503 electro motive diesel…. Majority of US use EMDs as the power plant

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

@@cosmiccolonel Thanks for that. It seemed a familiar abbreviation and of course I now remember it when the Class 59s were a brand new idea for the UK. .

@cosmiccolonel 5 ай бұрын

@@thefakewasp503 no worries mate…. I left the uk in 2006 and never heard any these but I lived next to the east coast mainline so probably they weren’t on that route

@thefakewasp503 5 ай бұрын

@@cosmiccolonel The early Class 59/0s (arrived in 1986) and the 59/1s did not stray too far mainly on the route from Westbury to London. I did see a 59/2 being named at the National Railway Museum York in "National Power" livery so it did make it to the ECML at some point! I have got a slide show and video (from cine film) on KZfaq of the original ones en route to Merehead Quarry from Southampton Docks and the naming ceremonies at Merehead Quarry.. Anyway thanks for jogging my memory.