perfectly stated.

All we have understood these things about art

Word.

I couldnt care less for that crap

beautifully said

That's fine but it doesn't mean they have larger meaning. It seems art doesn't have to actually convey anything to the viewer when pareidolia does all the work. For me, art is, without intent, not art.

@@DamnedSilly That part.

@@DamnedSilly why do you think all art has to MEAN something? jesus fucking christ

@@plux-godworldlang6910 Not all art, just good art.

@@DamnedSilly I absolutely love when people try and act like something is deeper and deeper. It’s embarrassing honestly. It’s pretentious and why many don’t respect this type of art.

Hmm...

In other words.. it looks like a caveman smeared his shit on a wall.

Art fans are like conspiracy theorists. They create something out of nothing to make themselves feel woke.

@@mikecody6377 Sounds about right

@@mikecody6377 Nonrepresentational art is about what it evokes in you. It's different for every individual.

What’s so puzzling? The issue with art is people feel Like everything has to MEAN something. Just take it for what it is.

@Ted Wilson "Anti-artist" is a label that lots of abstract painters and modern artists in general would LOVE to be called.

@Ted Wilson They are labour intensive, large-scale mixed media paintings. Not "doodles".

I think a lot of the things people dislike about art like this is that we can't help but compare it to others. When people enter art galleries, they have preconceived ideas about what they expect to see, something *worthy* of a gallery, something *worthy* of being sold for millions, and seeing something that seems so easily reproducable by anyone, when compared to the intense realism and precise techniques of other artists, whose technical skill is beyond comparison, it almost seems unfair. And so, this is lesser art. But this is a limiting viewpoint, because there is so much we can do in art. Complexity, detail, realism are all qualities that some associate with "good" art - but the idea that art without these qualities is lesser neglects a wide spectrum of imagery just as worthy of appreciation. If we narrow our view to just the art traditionally defined as "good", we miss out on a whole lot.

@@tulip_hysteria The surface level comparison only makes sense if we assume the artists were trying to express something similar, at least roughly. If their aims were completely different, what is the point in comparing them? One is an abstract artist creating his own expressive thing, the other is aiming for a realistic depiction of something. It's like comparing Louis CK to Dostoyevsky or whatever.

@Ted Wilson And so only a moron would find them beautiful, correct?

I agree. But it doesn’t belong in a museum or worth millions of dollars. There are phenomenal artists, unknown, worth so much more. Support LOCAL artists, and not this shenanigan.

@@sharongillesp Who's to say what is worth and what isn't? These local artists should make their art, I believe art is an equal playing field, everyone just do whatever the hell makes sense to you, this whining about stuff like this being in museums and not fine art paintings is so backwards, the whole reason stuff like this exists is because all the boring fine art paintings went out of style. This is closer to the kind of stuff the newer generation would be able to relate to than some 18th century hyperrealist self portrait painting. It's inspiring, violent, loose, stark, captivating, minimal, how the hell does anyone not see something like this and not think of doing it themselves rather than condemning it?

You are not alone.

Whyyyy

@@javier-jg8hr Nevermind why. That doesn’t even make sense. How do you find someone by hating them.

@@liverpoolvseverybody3257 lmao

@@liverpoolvseverybody3257 I think it makes sense. Every so often, on social media, people will start sharing an article about Cy Twombly and the comments will be overwhelmingly negative. I can imagine that somebody could discover Cy Twombly by joining in on these negative discussions and then, later, would look into his work further and discover an appreciation for it.

The more time you spend with something the more you love it. You’re basically just a victim of Stockholm syndrome.

I used to think that way. Now, 25 years later, I'm captivated.

The Emperor has no clothes.

fix your heart or die

Seriously u really should see my 7 yr olds art

@@candlelite4939 idiot father...

@@candlelite4939 you seem/sound like the type of parent who throws out their own child's artwork.

@@candlelite4939 I agree with candle lite

@@candlelite4939 people gave such bullying responses! I would love to see your 7 Year olds art. It's not about good or bad It's not about like or don't like It's about what is successful

I was at the museum in Houston today! Like you, his Green Series brought out very deep emotions I didn't know existed.

It's the opposite of "scamming". Twombly was expressing his truth _regardless_ of what anyone might think of it. These are big pieces, executed with a whole lot of physical gusto. Dude was serious about his art. He put his whole life into it. How can that be a scam?

@@biocykle I think that scam is not in the artist, but in the people who convinced him and others that his doodles are great art. Only to make money of it and, maybe, laugh when someone finds deeper level of ''meaning'' in this. There's art that I like and art that I don't. Also art that I don't even understand. But if I can't tell if it's art or rubbish - it's rubbish. If somenone needs to tell you that something is art, because you can't tell for yourself, then there is a field for scam, isn't it?

Yes.

Absolutely! This ability which some artist have to create internal conflicts in the viewers mind is fascinating!

Compellingly stated.

Yes, indeed; and, very well said. Try as I might, I cannot seem to quite figure out Twombly's work...which, honestly, frustrates me to death...?! It also makes me feel like being rather 'stupid'...given the fact that he is such a well known...extremely rich and famous/big selling artist. Art for art's sake, I guess...and, not necessarily with any meaning.../or, at least, not too much meaning. Quite honestly, whenever I see his artworks...I tend to think, quite invariably, crap, crap, and, yet, more CRAP...! Then, I think, to myself...no, maybe, there's something I'm seriously missing here...surely, not all of his admirers can be wrong.../and, why on earth would very important galleries...including National galleries...buy/own complete crap?! Somehow none of it makes any sense...not unless he was one of the most truly successful art world con artists that ever yet lived. Actually, it sort of reminds me of that children story...where 'the emperor has no clothes on'...if enough people say he is wearing clothes...then, everybody else tends to agree...even if they themselves can see he has no clothes on...a sort of conspiracy/and, denial by the masses. Who wants to be the odd person out...to go tell the truth...due to fearing that the masses might just turn on, and, then, totally destroy them...as to tell the truth...is the same as to openly admit that we've 'all' been made total fools of.

@@PaulRamnora all of "modern art" is pretty much a scam

@@PaulRamnora very well stated. The question I always have is, who is the person behind his success? Because if they have influence (they do) they promote any artist between their wealthy friends. The winner for Twombly is the recognizability (surely the swirls, not the earlier ones. If you see that earlier “work” you couldn’t tell by who that was, but the swirls, yeah, that’s a Twombly. And the Colours, that’s the only thing going and good marketing. No need to be a psychologist about it trying to dissect the manuscript. Anyone could scribble something on paper and again a psychologist can equally talk like this about your scribbles, why then would Cy’s scribbles be different than yours? Right: because he is marketed as being a somebody. Cheers

Thanks for sharing your Twombly story, kind of have one of my own... I live in the greater Houston area and back in '95 I was in town killing some time until meeting up with friends later that evening. Anyway, at some point I started getting a pretty bad migraine headache and just wanted to go somewhere nearby which was quiet, without a lot of people, where I could rest a while and not be bothered, and the Menil on a late Saturday afternoon turned out to be just the place. I was past the point where ibuprofen, which has always helped if I take it when the headache is first coming on, would do any good. I walked down the hallway to the Cy Twombly Retrospective exhibit that was showing at the time and sat down in the gallery featuring his large chalkboard paintings, fully expecting I'd either be lying on the sofa hoping someone would put me out of my misery, or rushing to the nearest exit to throw up my lunch, but surprisingly, after about a half hour of meditating on the paintings, my headache completely disappeared and I felt fine, never before or since have I had that happen when a migraine was that far along. I'd already been familiar with, and an admirer of, Twombly's art since around 1991 while attending art school at UH, but the experience gave me a much deeper appreciation of his work. I've also been to the Twombly Gallery several times since its completion.

Yeah, that's what they mean, but factually they are wrong. A five-year-old cannot pull off a layered, large scale abstract composition, not to mention one dealing with a mythological subject.

This kind of art is stupid and should never be glorified

​@@biocykle- There is nothing layered or indeed any normal notion of composition in this work whatsoever. It's the emperor's new clothes. It is a scam. They are relying on people pretending "they get" so as not to appear stupid. However, there is nothing in this to get. It is creatively redundant and intellectually vapid nonsense.

Thank you 👏 I absolutely agree. I think his real muse was the fable of The Emperors New Clothes and that’s all he was…and he knew it, and knew he could maintain success doing it - all the while being totally amused by himself behind the scenes. Lol.

It’s crap dude

It’s mesmerizing what someone will pay for it, and that in itself makes it mesmerizing.

@@parsifal7300 hahahahaha

because of this kind of "art appreciation"

That's not very nice!

@@TheCanvasArtHistory It's truthful though. Art like Cy Twombly, Jackson Pollock, Sol Lewitt, etc is objectively garbage.

right? i'm so happy i discovered this, but also sad that i wasn't able to sooner! the algorithm needs to push this one harder bc it deserves to more appreciation.

just scribble and you're in with a shout

At least you're better than Cy Twombly, one of the worst artists to ever exist

@@parsifal7300 it's tough to replicate scribbles.

By any chance are you painting boring romanticist landscapes? 🤔 I'm gonna keep my eye on u, sus

Art? Where? 🤔

@@anastasiavb1031 Oh you're watching the wrong video. The Thomas Kinkade videos are somewhere else.

@@BritPopSnob savage 😂🥰

Yes but Twombly had what your average 5 year old did not have!!! Knowing the right people and great marketing.

You CAN do this today and sell it as art. People put their own spin on things.

@user-kf6qy9wy2b my computer can make 1 trillion spins and I can put a name on it

Agreed 100%

I don’t think artists like this necessarily get off on making people stupid. I think maybe the purveyors of this kind of art perhaps do. As an artist, I think the satisfaction from making this kind of art is in how personally relaxing and easy it is. More about the process than the finished product. I’m a figurative surrealist artist, my paintings get compared to Dalí a lot, but they are so difficult. The process is sometimes excruciating but the final result makes it worth it

@@RapidBlindfolds funny thing is, i actually kinda like Twomblys work. Also that of arshile gorky, matta. But i think you said it yourself, relaxing snd easy. The early absstractionists were trying to do something different,.. rebellious i suppose. But if you look at their attempts at anything figurative or naturalistic it's quite obvious they just didn't put in the time and hard work it takes to get there. The problem, i think is how this work gets put up on a pedastool, as if the mere fact of its being totally baffling puts it outside the realm of objective criticism. I just feel it's a bit of a con, on some level.

@@ryanembry9875 yes ‘as if the mere fact that puts its being totally baffling puts it outside of objective criticism’ puts it very well. There’s a framework which has always stuck with me which Vladimir Kush (hacky Dali wannnabe imo but good writer) wrote about. He sort of defines a spectrum of art that on one end demands a high level of engagement/effort from the viewer and then on the other end requires a high level of skill and effort from the artist. Quoting him “art that leaves us in speechless admiration (realism) or suggests we solve a puzzle made of symbols (abstract art)”. In old master painting, it is the artist who does all the work of learning complicated glazing techniques, how to work in layers and not rush, anatomy, scumbling, how to capture light etc. so much so that the audience is rendered passively overwhelmed by the skill and power of their creation. Whereas low effort abstract art like Twombly demands the audience to fill in the gaps imaginatively on some level, hence all the baggage of critical theory that abstract and postmodern art is associated with. I love matta too btw some of his stuff is just incredible

And there are many artists who manage to bridge that gap beautifully. Check out the work of ruprecht von kaufmann, or james jean

You like scribbles line a 5 year old

@@BrianBTeman-in2rc clearly his work is not for you

and? whats your point? put that picture a 5 year old did. frame it and put it on the wall. it'll look great. it would be an honest expression of unconscious thought. the fuck it i like this colour and i like how the pencil moves when i do spirals so i'm going to do it. why cant that be art?

you're forgetting that these works are like 2m x 2m or larger. Bit big for the fridge door

my friend,you dont see art because there is no art to see. using the word art for thiw crap,is blasphemy

Thank you Aya!!

the whole point is inspiration and people miss that, there's also a sense of starkness and violence to his paintings that people wouldn't know about unless they tried to recreate it

Also, money laundering.

@@aimeem True dat. 😂

This is so accurate about most art. Pretty much the reason I can’t stand any pretentious art person that thinks they are better than you because they “understand” the painting or feel the painting. It’s possible it evokes emotions. It’s not possible that because of scribbles you are more cultured.

Yet people hate on basquiat for the same thing - doing art that we can understand the process for. It’s a wild world, people!

Being jealous and spreading your anger like that will not make you more famous

Thank you so much!! With school and work, it's a bit hard to make longer videos, but, one day, hopefully, I'll have more time to fully dedicate myself to those videos! Thanks again for the appreciation!

I think that has more to do with the corruption of organizations like Sotheby's than it does with Twombly's works themselves.

Right,your opinion, have you ever really Delved into why Cy Twombly ‘s work is so valuable?There must be a reason. His work speaks to my soul ...I feel so honored. I am an artist. He is my inspiration .

@@parsifal7300 exactly, people blame the artists too much, but its actually capitalisms doing. the art is fine, its just the people behind the scenes fucking shit up

The basic reason is simply because some people with millions of dollars disagree with you 🤷

@@psgouros It's not that they disagree, it's that they need it to make their dirty money clean.

thats your opinion of the mans work. it's kinda wrong and you need to evaluate some hidden chudness here, but its your opinion. my opinion is that i think your murals are kinda bland, but thats okay. we al lhave opinions

You're welcome! I'm happy you liked it!

Genius??? lol

Da Vinci and Michelangelo were geniuses..Cy with his kindergarten work? not so much.

@@aspiknf Da Vinci himself said simplicity is the ultimate sophistication