WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? Do you agree with any of my points or am I tripping??? Let me know in the comments!
@arkdude8484 Жыл бұрын
I think your channel will blow up soon. I'll keep commenting to get it exposed to the algo
@Druong Жыл бұрын
@@arkdude8484 Really appreciate the support man!! More content on the way
@meganoobbg3387 Жыл бұрын
I tried to compare Akame ga Kill to Edgerunners too, and guess what - they dont even know what Akame ga Kill is, they say Edgerunners is "the best anime in 2022" without having watched any other anime this year. But the way they're praising this anime, its like they watched the ending of Clannad or Angel beats or something. I think Cyberpunk fans see the death of CD Project Red in the Edgerunners characters, and that's why they see what we dont in this anime. Im not trying to be offensive, just mildly savage after the algorithm bombarded me with these CDPR apologists, and their videos after my friend made me watch him stream the game, and i watched a few videos out of curiosity. :D
@NotThatGuy626 Жыл бұрын
I honestly and truly think you’re wasting your time.
@niel633 Жыл бұрын
Bro your speaking straight fax. I really wished though that they were given 12 episodes. IMO this would have helped them expand more and would have helped get rid off some of the problems with the story and plot but there of course would be some of the other issues that would remain with the story.
@alrizo1115 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I didn't feel a damn thing about character's deaths and motivation. They established a no care to the other characters and then gets too emotional for someone's death even without too much buildup. I don't even like the body transformation of David in just one episode and Lucy becoming emotional(nudist) after just one episode.
@Cjbruh Жыл бұрын
Bro you just want to ruin the opinions of people that think cyberpunk edge runners is a masterpiece💀
@kenshiro1719 Жыл бұрын
@@Cjbruh nah bro he just expressing his opinion
@Mekiza10 ай бұрын
I agree. The only good thing in this show was its animation and music
@obolstudios51545 ай бұрын
Cope
@skshazkamil5 ай бұрын
I also felt the same, didn't feel much 😕
@FatalAlcatraz Жыл бұрын
FInally, someone who sees things as I do! Rushed plot, underdeveloped characters, and sudden story points, which all made me not care too much when someone died. It was like watching a go-pro rollercoaster video instead of riding it, it just couldn't really pull me in, get me invested. The ANIMATION for me also felt too lof frame rate/choppy (especially during action/combat), but the designs and individual frames are great + they did an amazing job matching everything with the game. Look at the dislike ration on this vid, lol It was a pretty good show, but terminally online people treat it like the third coming of Christ.
@mafius4530 Жыл бұрын
Everyone gets effected by stories differently. It is completely natural for some to claim that it is a masterpiece and for some to claim it is overrated. I personally think that it is incredible, it effected me really deeply, and it's not like anyone could make me not feel that way.
@Karma-cj1wu Жыл бұрын
That's how you know it's a good show
@dmcfail987 Жыл бұрын
And that still doesn't make it a masterpiece
@turandonc7701 Жыл бұрын
@@dmcfail987 Well in ur subjective opinion thats fair, I think it was a masterpiece but thats just how I think.
@Kiatakesouls. Жыл бұрын
@@dmcfail987 it’s a a masterpiece cuz I said so
@unaltrocanale4687 Жыл бұрын
@@Kiatakesouls. And it's not because you said so?
@slyfer60 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The amount of praise this gets is...odd. Mane's turn literally comes out of nowhere, the characters all feel underdeveloped, personally I felt David and Lucy were kind of flat as leads, I also didn't care for Rebecca. This show is really held up by its animation and voice work. The writing is competent but unrefined.
@just_dylan_official Жыл бұрын
When I watched it the first time I saw some MAJOR animation flaws.... For example in one episode David and Rebecca were fighting some nobody's and Rebecca pulled out her guns and started blasting this one guy... The background movements were awful and they just used the same animations for Rebecca and het gunshots. The guy she was shooting was getting hit the same way and moved the same too. It's like they just put that scene on a loop...
@Mister_Don88810 ай бұрын
I agree
@Mekiza10 ай бұрын
I agree
@solitarycrow Жыл бұрын
A lot of new gen anime fans seem to not know Ghost in the Shell did a lot of the same things a lot better. Sure, the presentation and art direction are very clean and crisp in Edgerunners; but the quality of the choreography matters too. GiTs may look more grainy and less sharp, but the way that the fights are done and the way that the director hone and zoom in on little details of the martial arts are done with a lot more diligency. EDIT: Forgot to mention that Lucy's look was heavily inspired by the Major in GiTS.
@channelname9468 Жыл бұрын
Edgerunners is mid, wasn’t terrible, but it certainly wasn’t great. I don’t know what people find so fantastic about this show.
@coastercult414211 ай бұрын
Fr
@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia5 ай бұрын
Its mostly for teenagers with little to no experience in media. I know for a fact if I were 14 when I first watched this show I would claim it's the best thing ever.
@channelname94685 ай бұрын
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia agreed, I can’t think of any other reason a show like this would receive so much praise. It’s really not good.
@GaionSputro21 күн бұрын
I think they being paid by cdpr for popularity.
@egranger2128 Жыл бұрын
I liked Lucy and David’s character(David kinda annoyed me at the end though), but I didn’t believe their romance. They had no chemistry and it feels like David never loved Lucy. It seemed like he did have a dream and it was to go out in a “blaze of glory”. After Maine’s death he succumbed to a path of self destruction and even broke up with Lucy after she told him to lay off the chrome. After he found out she was in trouble, I believe he saw this as an opportunity to become a martyr. Yes, he did die for her, but if he truly loved her then he would’ve lived for her. She told him early on that she didn’t want him to die for her and he didn’t listen. I still loved this series though and im glad at least Lucy survived.
@adam346 Жыл бұрын
The more I watch the show... the more I listen to people talk about it, the more flaws I find in it.. I wanted to love this show and after the first watching I kind of did. But the more I think about it.. the more.. basic it seems. I feel like they took the Shonen format and shoved it into the Cyberpunk setting... minus any sort of character progression, learning, emotional intelligence or anything I would classify as being unique. It doesn't even try to hide it either.. it is just a shonen in cyberpunk and it really annoys me. It is doubly let down by the fact that the music video for the end-credits song of "Let you down" has more character building and emotional intelligence in 4 minutes than this show has in 10 episodes.
@Na0uta Жыл бұрын
The sudden death of Rebecca's brother kinda felt off but right to me as well. It shows how suddenly things can just become fucked up in the city. And if you play the game. You are basically that psyco. It could have been done better to. Like mine had a whole build up to it.
@eljaggerstanleynintendo917 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was totally its purpose, rather than causing emotional impact to the viewer. Also, Rebecca barely reacting to his death goes in the same line: the world is fucked up and so are his citizens, all insensitive to death. That's what the genre cyberpunk is. I think the video creator missed the mark here. And finally, David killing Pilaf's killer after just a single hesitation puts David as someone who doesn't hesitate when it matters, i.e. protecting his loved ones.
@frankie3010 Жыл бұрын
@@eljaggerstanleynintendo917you are cringe
@gorganiangranola Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that someone actually takes the time to express these negatives. People can defend it however they want and nobody is taking it from Trigger that this is a really great show but these flaws you pointed out are exactly what you say, detrimental and avoidable. You do 10 episodes then you gotta figure out how not to have these holes that weaken the impact/believability or your story and characters. At least in a perfect world, actually weebs show us time and time again that their hype juices are stronger than reason and improvements are not needed. But tbh I wouldn't want any show ever to be an Arcane again, that show was what I'd call too constructed, every connection was too convenient to have any of it feel impactful at all at some point. So surely there's a balance to be struck but we are no question on the wrong side here, this made me go back to actual great animes like Black Lagoon that deliver on those and many more aspects.
@Druong Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support! It's definitely natural for people to be swept up by the hype so I'm not surprised or fazed by the response tbh. I'm gonna stick to my guns unless I find reason to change em! If you liked this vid, subscribe for more!
@iceloveanime Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's the length itself that is responsible for the flaws of this show. I think the producers were hampered in their writing because of the reason for the anime's existence. That being supplementing the game. This series from conception was meant as promo material. I Imagine CDPR were in favor of cutting corners in the character development space since the idea was to sell you on the cyberpunk aesthetic so when you find out what is based off of you'll check out the game. It's also why i believe the chance of getting a season 2 is very low. Promote the game by promoting the setting and aesthetic it focuses on and edgerunners did that beautifully.
@yeetneet5334 Жыл бұрын
I mean looking at cdpr's product cycle a new season is a possibility, but it will be way down the line
@judgementkazzy7172 Жыл бұрын
I can agree some characters werent given the time or attention to shine and others like Maine were but were suddenly cut short (turning into a cyberpsycho in the span of like 30 minutes). While a higher episode count could have remedied these issues the delays for the game its based on didnt benefit from extra time. The animes main selling points was just how much they nailed the aesthetics and tone of a cyberpunk world and the emotional value of certain character deaths. But most of all im just glad for another anime that isnt the 1000th generic harem isekai that has been plaguing the world of anime for years.
@Druong Жыл бұрын
Fr. Even with Edgerunners’ flaws, I’d take it any day over isekai and waifubait brainrot
@denimschaffer9439 Жыл бұрын
It’s also amazing compared to a lot of garbage lately we have seen lately in the movie and tv industry
@sparks418 Жыл бұрын
Comparing release dates and actual run time is a bit of a stretch having more time to develop a story instead of polishing out bug/gameplay is very different but I 100% agree that the most impressive part about this anime is how it captures Night City. And you know..... harem could just be 2 girls .......Lucy.....Rebeca lmao nah I'm just playin
@Kavewolf1989 Жыл бұрын
If the worst aspect of a show is we want a few more episodes of it, it almost feels like an endorsement lol
@isaiahtr Жыл бұрын
10000th generic harem isekai 🤣🤣 thank you, it's super over done
@sdhfhfhgjgjniiii7196 Жыл бұрын
I actually agree, I finished watching this show yesterday and I think you're exactly right. It tries to do too much with too little time. With episodes like episode 6, I feel like the show expects me to cry or feel extremely sorry, but I can't feel sorry for a character that I don't even know that well. It also does a poor job at explaining some concepts, all the characters know about these and the show presents them like you know about them while you haven't really understood them. But I think most of the concepts introduced here, the direction, and the overall production, make this show a solid 7 for. But it recently came out, and the finale episode kind of makes people a little too overhyped, but I think it'll die down sooner or later.
@Totaldeltako Жыл бұрын
My opinion on the show Vs. what Druong said in the video. Feel free to post your own thought on the show as well or countering my opinion with you're own. (SPOILERS BTW) I agree with how rushed the show feels that it should have used some more run time, I think some story beats could've used longer episodes especially since this wasn't a tv anime so if they wanted to make some episodes 30 or 35 minutes they could've, but at the same time, even though you don't get too much time to connect to David's mom as a character I don't think you need to, I feel that it shows how quickly and easily people die in the show and the story doesn't suffer too much. The character archetype of a caring mom is well known so if they drew it out too long I feel the show might have suffered more, but the conversation in the car was what you'd hear any 'struggling mother trying to raise son' say. sure it might be a bit of lazy writing but it's done to introduce the character, the theme, and some background info, so I'm not too bothered by it. Pilar suddenly killed off adds to and shows again how easily people suddenly die, I was shocked for a second or two even though I saw it coming as soon as he started harassing the cyberpsycho. I didn't like Pilar, or Pilef or whatever his name was too much, mostly because the anime didn't show him enough and his perceived character just wasn't a character that I liked much, but I don't think the connection to his character was intended; I don't mind. David not being able to shoot until he has to save others lives adds that David will "jump into the fire" to save whoever he really cares about. That is really how I perceived his breakthrough, he hesitates as he keeps going in the show until Maine dies. Any hesitation after episode 6 is caused by the cyberpsychosis taking effect or other reasons entirely. I don't agree with the statement, "Rebecca, his sister, didn't seem too broken up about it" because she doesn't appear in the next 2 episodes, sure it doesn't show that she was super broken up but I think it would interrupt the other story beats that they were focusing on and barely had enough time for already. Perhaps a comment about her recovering and not coming on the next mission could've been squeezed in there somewhere but this world is cruel so perhaps its easier for some others to move on as well. The explanation of David just being built different is what is seems on the surface but as you see he is only more compatible and it still catches up with him. The theme of him thinking he is special and pushing himself till he breaks and ultimately dies is also shown through Maine. Unfortunately some of the background information of the lore isn't shown well enough but implants and upgrading yourself is addicting in Cyberpunk, You get power and you rely on it and everyone believes they can keep going but all go over the edge eventually. I think Maine going cyberpsycho is a little abrupt as well but it does show Maine constantly taking suppressants in every episode before. The romance between Lucy and David might not be super fleshed out but It feels genuine and you can only imagine how much they've cared for each other in the time they have been together off screen. If the show had more run time perhaps it could've shown even more but I think it did really good. I'm in the military and I have people that I haven't known for long or don't have a super deep relationship with, not as deep as what is shown with David and Lucy but we genuinely care for each other and would go through shit for each other. I would die fighting for them and vice versa so I understand how David and Lucy can care for each other so deeply since they've spent good time with each other by the end of the show and just have that deeper relationship together. I agree there was a lot there for 10 episodes to try and cover it all and parts seemed rushed, but to counter that, I and many others still grew very attached to the characters that were meant to mean something and buildup was still very good for most of the show. Episode 4 has a very repetitive "training arc" that started to bore me towards the end, but it cut that off with Pilar's sudden death and while the death isn't super meaningful the small bit of that at the beginning of the episode that most people forgot about helped carry that episode by structuring it that way. In these 10 very short episodes I felt more emotion than most other anime ever. The sound track and how some scenes were animated might have helped but that is still part of the show. That is why I think it is so good. All in all, I need time to sit on this anime because what I feel about it might be recency bias, but so far this is anime of the year for me. I know it was super good and I will still feel that it's a great show, right now when I question if it's anime of the year or not I can't find another anime that I've seen this year that I think is better, and I've seen damn near all of em. It's no masterpiece but it's a masterpiece to me. I see where you are coming from with this review and I respect your opinion on the show, some shows aren't for everyone so Imma leave a like on this video because some of your points are good and it's refreshing to see a review that isn't just all praise. Not everyone gets the same watching experience and some don't get attached to characters as quickly or feel the same way about everything. I loved it, some think its good, and so far I have only seen 1 person say it's bad but they only watched episode 1 sooo, not sure that counts but whatev. Oh, one more thing. One punch man and the other examples that you used do show how a shorter show can be so good, but I didn't get so attached and feel such an emotional response like I did with this show. It was also refreshing to see copious amounts of nudity and violence in a show, but I also appreciate how the nudity wasn't super focused on for fan service all the time. It was both lore accurate, showed character growth at times. And for context I didn't binge the show in one go because I wanted some time to sit on and think about certain parts of it as I went on because anytime I binge a show I always forget small parts or don't appreciate is as much. Sorry for dropping such a long, and not super well organized comment. I wrote pieces of it at a time as I watched and re-watched the video so I hope you don't mind.
@Druong Жыл бұрын
Hey man these are some interesting points so I didn't want to leave ya hangin! For me, I can definitely see David's mom or Pilar dying as adding to the sense that death is unfair in Night City and that the city overall is a harsh, uncaring place. I still think more buildup or attachment to either of those characters (as well as other deaths in the show) would have added to that theme of Night City being harsh. I could even accept ONE of those deaths, the mom or Pilar, being primarily for shock value without buildup. But TWICE in a row and with inadequate buildup for other character deaths like Maine, Dorio, Kiwi? I think that is a bit too much and doesn't really add to the theme as much as developed characters dying. If anything, when you are more attached to a character and see them as very important and they die off and things move on, there's a bigger sense of futility IMO. As for David's belief that he is special, I also thought that was a bit of an underdeveloped theme throughout the story. Is David special? He definitely believes so for a majority of the series, pushing his body for Lucy's dream. Even up until the end when he fights Adam Smasher he thinks he's special. You could argue his eventual cyberpsychosis and death means he's NOT special, but he did save Lucy and became a legend in the city. So which is it? Maybe it's up to the audience but for me it just felt a bit underbaked. With Lucy and David, again, I think it's a decent and serviceable romance that definitely adds to the theme and plot of the story in meaningful ways. My problem is that, while the dialogue and moments between them are nice, there's not enough scenes between them that properly demonstrate WHY they love each other so much. For me, it's clear that the romance is there to have certain plot points in the story and the emotional ending. Again, it's not bad IMO, just not great. When it comes to 10 episodes, I think having 12-13 episodes would have definitely helped this anime. I agree the animation and music was 10/10 and helped deliver moments (especially when the writing was weaker). As for anime like One Punch Man and Mob Psycho, I think a vast majority of audiences did grow attached to characters such as Saitama, Mob, Reigen, etc. Not to say that the majority is inherently right, but that it's clearly possible for people to get attached to characters in those anime to the same if not GREATER extent than David or Lucy (Saitama and Mob are part of anime pop culture now). I do like the violence and more mature aspects of Edgerunners though and how they handled that aspect. I mean, don't get me wrong, there's a LOT I like about Edgerunners. I just don't think it's a masterpiece, which a lot of people think means I "hate" the show when that couldn't be farther from the truth. Anyways, I appreciate you watching and taking the time to write out multiple paragraphs haha. Subscribe for more videos like this if you liked it!
@enqour3467 Жыл бұрын
Y’all niggas writing a whole paragraph on h na👻
@user-cn7oj3ws8q Жыл бұрын
@@enqour3467 bro can’t handle paragraphs 😂
@mrmadslapper9253 Жыл бұрын
@@enqour3467 brudda wrote a whole essay about an anime.
@cultofcheddar861 Жыл бұрын
Pilar was a piece of shit , he was rude and sexually harassed Lucy, I don't know why not feeling super upset he died is counted as a miss-step since the anime wasn't trying to do this, you felt as much as you were meant to for pilar Sadness comes later
@MimiPipoo Жыл бұрын
I think overall the story was horrible and all over the place. David loses his mother and you would think he would have some motivation to get back at the people and society that completely disregarded them but he goes on a series of random heists that completely and utterly goes against his dying mother's hopes and dreams for him that lead him to nothing but his own demise. Turns into a mecha steroid junkie that pushes him and his crew to their deaths and doesn't think to escape with Lucy before all of this crap comes to frutition? I liked the show but felt like the story was all over the place and led to an odd forced climax.
@xox1592009 Жыл бұрын
It was meh, visually it looked great and the music was good. Main character is not very likable and even less at the end, the deaths of his gang members felt like the death of that new guy who gets blown up by a mine “oh, ig they’re dead now, anyway”, due to lack of character development, none of the connections felt genuine, and all the gang members are monsters anyway so it’s hard to care for any of them. The end it goes full Dbz over the top anime lacking any semblance of reality just felt like a goofy cartoon (battle with militech). Then the ending also fell flat. “Hey mom look, technically I’m on top of Arasaka tower 😎” yeah that’s exactly what she meant. Turn yourself into a torso with a head that’s attached to a mech suit so you can physically jump on top of it. That line was painful to hear. He turns evil by the end murdering random office workers, but it’s ok because he sacrificed himself to get the girl a trip to the moon, great 👍 Overall I’d say it’s a 5/10 animation was great, music was good so was the voice acting the rest was meh
@oscard.lisboa61053 ай бұрын
I agree with most of what u say, but the part about him being on op of arasaka tower, what u said was the WHOLE point
@aceflashheart Жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right, the critical 'flaw' of Edgerunners was the lack of a real emotional connection between David and Lucy. Ironically Rebecca and David had far more real development, and their relationship felt far more fleshed out and 'real'. Length was another issue. Felt like Arcane in that regard, too much plot/too many characters for a 9-10 episode show. Glad there's some pushback against the uncritical gushing around this show. Thought I was going crazy when it was only a 6/10 for me. Very beautiful though.
@lets_see_777 Жыл бұрын
same i felt it was 7/10. Story is basic anime trope filled fantasy, nothing new.
@bailly1998 Жыл бұрын
Arcane was over twice as long as cyberpunk, like a good 20-25 episode cyberpunk edgerunners in length (if you factor in the lesser amount of opening and ending etc per longer 40min+ episode). Also arcane isnt finished so you can always redevelop some aspects, revisit others and use flashbacks etc to flesh out important stuff that was cut short etc. Thats the problem with edgerunners, it had an amazingly good opportunity to do something great, but it fell incredibly short of its potential and finished, meaning there is no way to reconcile it. So instead of a 9 or 10/10 we got a rushed 7-7.5/10 like a solid above average show.
@aroniax2791 Жыл бұрын
the characters deaths feels nothing except for maine
@edisonchin2463 Жыл бұрын
Man..6 out of 10 is just harsh. I would say at least 7/10
@SB-Boi Жыл бұрын
I loved it. You need a second or third rewatch in order to pick up key details
@TheBoney808 Жыл бұрын
One thing I think that might lend itself to the Lucy and David romance is the subtext to a lot of what we know about them. Lucy sees in David the innocence of a young kid who's not grown cold or jaded by night city, and she is someone who resents never having that as she grew up, maybe even reminding her of her friends from the past, along with his genuine honest kindness which is a rare thing. David on the other hand had been seeing her and was idolizing her as the ideal of freedom, looking how she wants, doing what she wants to do, enjoying herself, and of course having a purpose to use that freedom for. David is a prodigy, the only thing that was holding him back was motivation and path to follow, so Lucy giving him a path he could see and shared her motivation with him changed his world All these words to say "I think they said it without saying it" which in itself is arguably a problem when it comes to *one of the most central plot points in the show* but hey, food for thought : )
@eljaggerstanleynintendo917 Жыл бұрын
Yessss. When the show is as short as this, relationships are built further with subtext. The scene when they kiss for the first time says A LOT in just 3 minutes, both with that they say and what the don't, precisely as you said. In such instances, yeah more literal build up would be nice, but is not really needed. Not if the subtext is written correctly, which is edgerunner's case.
@blackkaiser6731 Жыл бұрын
@liamsteam walsh shut up
@mr.fantastic4403 Жыл бұрын
I largely have the same issue with Cyberpunk edgerunners where I feel like it would have been perfect with two seasons where season one ends at episode 6 which would allow maine's death to be a lot more impactful while also allowing all the initial characters to be a lot more fleshed out. Furthermore, it would have given David's mom more time on screen to allow you to actually be upset when she dies. Also, as you mentioned it would give David's and Lucy's relationship a lot more screen time. Regardless of the rushed feeling of the show, I think they still did a great job with enjoyable characters, amazing animation, a pretty good plot and an amazing ending. A solid 8.5/10 from my end.
@arkhalis3682 Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said except for the rating. This show deserves no more than a 4 as it stands now.
@mr.fantastic4403 Жыл бұрын
@@arkhalis3682 do you unironically think it was that bad?
@arkhalis3682 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.fantastic4403 I unironically think it was THAT bad. :) You're rating shows wrong if you rate a show with shit pacing, rushed and predictable story, bland main characters and antagonist, a WHOPPING eight and a half out of ten.
@sahil5rana8 ай бұрын
@@arkhalis3682agree with you I rated it 6.5
@phootaphan9166 Жыл бұрын
6:20 Rebecca wasn't talking about wanting to kill Pilar. She was mad that Kiwi short circuited her (to stop her from getting herself killed) and stopped her from killing the cyberpsycho herself. That's what she meant by "He was mine to kill, and you took that from me".
@Druong Жыл бұрын
That’s definitely a possibility. But I’m pretty sure she also shoots Pilar’s head as well so it’s a bit confusing.
@Moonwhalerr Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure she is talking about Pilar. They're brother and sister and super cybernetic too. Most cyberpunks go psycho i assumed they had a "if I go pyscho you take me out" deal basically.
@grandgibbon2071 Жыл бұрын
@@Druong She also shoots his hand when he tells her to tip David. It was at least obvious to me that Rebecca, and Pilar were close, and his death was not taken well by Rebecca. She immediately starts shooting the pysco. Rebecca wanted revenge to exact revenge for her brother.
@kai7005 Жыл бұрын
@@Moonwhalerr Yes, this is it. I made the same conection while watching the show, since the first moment they estabish that goons go psycho after too much chrome
@slahser Жыл бұрын
@@Druong I think you just missed the implication that it was Rebecca's coping mechanism. It would be weird if it was not so that's why you didn't like it since you assumed Rebbeca really wanted to kill her bro.
@macklee6837 Жыл бұрын
The hype certainly isn't a 'little overblown'. It's massively overblown It was fine, sure, but no way near as sick as people make it out to be
@gobbo1917 Жыл бұрын
It's cuz they want to have sex with the Lolirt that's literally all it is
@HeyyItsNick Жыл бұрын
I think the show just wasn't your cup of tea, doesn't make it overrated. It executed its story telling and animation masterfully.
@samuelcarvelli9087 Жыл бұрын
Why do you have to make it his fault? Is this really the only argument you can come up with? He gives very good reasons as to why this anime was not a masterpiece, as most people say. I liked the anime and agree with pretty much everything he says. I'm sorry but the story wasn't executed that good, you're just delusional.
@lazy3938 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelcarvelli9087 ever heard of an opinion?
@NeganxSmith Жыл бұрын
@@samuelcarvelli9087 because he posted it dummy
@blitzwolfer4154 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelcarvelli9087 If story wasn't executed that well, then the reactions to Cyberpunk 2077 Edgerunners would be WAY more different. The consensus is that the story, animation and audio was great. I can agree it isn't perfect, which might've been fixed if given more episodes to flesh out stuff more.
@damondgreen2239 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelcarvelli9087 Why are you acting like a pressed 12 year old? All the guy said was they think the show just wasn’t for the guy, and the storytelling was well executed which most agree with.
@sparks418 Жыл бұрын
This was also my reaction I can't argue with it being a good anime but my main thing is when the big sad moment could have been avoided with some conversation it bothers me. Like David and Lucy didn't talk at all about their issues. Also things weren't drawn out well enough like how Lucy protected David and David doing everything for her but at the same time I think everyone could see Lucy's dream is nothing without David he became her priority I think that's shown more through the fantastic art than the writing. It's a Great show but it had even more potential, things could have been better and that's something that needs to be said.
@CyberCervine Жыл бұрын
Lucy and David didn't really talk honestly which was weird given they're a couple
@sparks418 Жыл бұрын
@@CyberCervine that's what I'm saying in that time skip they start to live together but they still seem like they're miles apart, a conversation or 2 could have stopped a lot of that. That's my main problem, the show tries to make death unavoidable in night city but it totally was avoidable at least for another few years.
@CyberCervine Жыл бұрын
@@sparks418 the whole "no happy endings in night city" also doesn't work because we do see alot of people end up having somewhat of happy endings (can give a few examples if you'd like) and people always use that phrase as an excuse for how unsatisfying the ending is. And I agree that time skip wasted alot of potential to show how close they had grown after Maine's passing but instead we just see them sit together naked whenever they interact alone like.... Couple goals IG but weird.
@sparks418 Жыл бұрын
@@CyberCervine right like they just milk you for your tears but there is no actual substance to it. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the show but it could have been a lot better just through some conversation and a few extra episodes. Instead they tried to make it seem tragic by having them not talk to one another.
@CyberCervine Жыл бұрын
@@sparks418 100 percent
@exysa2798 Жыл бұрын
every show, game, etc. is overrated because some call something a masterpiece and some others don't. So for some people its overrated. Everything is overrated because people have different taste, preferences, etc.
Yeah and everything goes back to zero. You could just say the dump I just took taste great because even though majority of the human hate the taste of it, majority of the maggots and flies in this world loved it to bits. How abt that? Same for this show, it’s shit, it’s a shitshow, I understand that you like it, but I don’t care because it’s shit. There’s standards for a show, and a show with Bad pacing/ confusing plot/ dumb and vain mc/ misunderstanding-miscomms triggered shitshows/ bad storyboard in general (plotholes, above mentioned pacing, TRIGGER studio's ocd of making the mc die in vain through the entire history of their shows, obscenely obvious intervention of plot through instigations of new villains with confusing rationale) And fk me, the cherry to the cake is they have to eat my final piece of hope for a good thing from the first anime I watch, with an epic last scene in the moon. Really loved the show till epi 5 before starting to see TRIGGER's true face Ngl I kind of felt like a masochist everytime I watch a show made by TRIGGER or partially done by it Promare, ditf, edgerunner
@Deturent1 Жыл бұрын
*Every moment you aren't moving, I'm getting closer.*
@vaper8824 Жыл бұрын
David was so relatable, and his mom wanting the best for him and breaking her back just so he can have success in his future is so real.
@memshad_ Жыл бұрын
How was he relatable? He just started totally killing himself and i still dont see why. I really wanted to like this show but some things just didnt work for me.
@shane83 Жыл бұрын
@@memshad_ for me the relatability of David comes from legitimately never giving up on his ideals, doing whatever he can to protect those he got close to. Yeah his first implant was out of rage and revenge (but also he was a VERY big low, probably wanted to oof himself) but overcoming that and making the most of the situation and the world he lives in. And to be honest, in the world of cyberpunk - did he honestly have a better option?
@memshad_ Жыл бұрын
@@shane83 i totally understand why he got the first implant and i thought that was really cool but i think from episode 7 on where david is just massive and covered in metal it just seems a bit much. Like i dont understand why he would do all that after seeing what happened to maine
@Dragonslayer_1215 Жыл бұрын
@@memshad_ the show kinda shoves the reason in your face like at least 4 times up to that point… not hating, but that’s kinda hard to miss.
@CureSmileful Жыл бұрын
@@Dragonslayer_1215 do you want to tell me when and how?
@just_dylan_official Жыл бұрын
a fuck ton of people call popular animes like attack on titan, cyberpunk edgerunners and chainsawman things like peak, perfection or the best piece of fiction ever made. when they really arent THAT good. the shows are good yes but how some people explain the show it is heavily overrated.
@JerichoTheCity Жыл бұрын
I feel like you can argue just about anything popular is overrated, and people use 'masterpiece' WAY too often on any form of media. I definitely understand your negative points though, the show could've easily been expanded to 12-24 episodes if it wasn't so expensive to make anime. While I love this anime, if a large percentage of the fanbase thinks it's perfect or near perfect, when it's not, I can agree that it's overrated.
@sodikhidayat1696 Жыл бұрын
The only good thing about cyberpunk is episode 1, then the quality drops slowly
@ninogamingvariety6594 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with all of your takes, people sometimes should just chill for a while and think a bit critically because the show DOES have glaring flaws that shouldn’t be ignored, nonetheless I liked it, not a masterpiece though
@jamesprice6015 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, you can't your own opinion
@brendiux0 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, I enjoyed it still and I do like these kind of stories but the pacing felt too fast and the "feels" never really kicked in because I didn't feel too attached to the characters? It was still a good show, just wish they expanded on the characters a bit more.
@tyoubergirl123 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, I didn‘t feel sad about any death on the show. For me the story pasing was awful. Idk like, the characters in the show weren‘t even sad about the deaths why would I be? And they didn‘t have the development so I would feel sad.. It is a cool show and worth a watch but it‘s not nearly at the level of, let‘s say Arcane, or short Anime shows like Erased. I felt like the story was about the Romance of Main Character that was very porly writen + that the protagonist has become a Cyber Junkie. I agree that world building and Animation were good, but everything else… I don‘t know. Just because it‘s beautiful to watch it is not good… I felt slightly sad when the little girl died, but also only cause she looked cool and badass, not cause she had such Charakter depth that I could relate to or something like this. For me the show is mediocore at best.
@beautifulmanstan8840 Жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone that agrees with me. The characterisation, the story, and it's pacing... They really don't live up to the action and visuals.
@akkaradetsomrak6015 Жыл бұрын
Action was a mess and visuals was garbage in this anime.
@solitarycrow Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat here. I think that the premise was good. The show knew what it wanted to be. I had identity to it. But, the pacing and animation were garbage. I am a bit annoyed by how fans think Edgerunners is some groundbreaking first time thing, but they're forgetting how the Ghost in the Shell Franchise pretty much did everything Edgerunners did but WAY BETTER.
@czarnakoza9697 Жыл бұрын
game and anime both suck
@Cotac_Rastic Жыл бұрын
based
@hachiman2245 Жыл бұрын
Edgerunners was really good in terms of animation and soundtrack, probably one of the most stylish and visually amazing pieces I’ve seen. However I just didn’t click with the characters that much, so I agree on the points about pacing and writing. Ep 6 and the final episode were kinda carried by visuals and music for me, i felt a bit emotional. But keep in mind this is coming from a Key visual novel fan who is basically dead inside at this point, so u can’t hit me with character deaths or romance that is not built up properly. 7/10 for me.
@kairosguillot9227 Жыл бұрын
I think the production was top tier specially visually and I was just astonished to listen black metal on a mainstream product in its soundtrack. But besides that I really hated the story development, it felt somewhat rushed and wrongly planned/executed and it really was confusing in some parts and it's such a shame having the production it has. Some characters were only there to die and provide shock factor or were rewritten (Like kiwi) with no foreshadowing on their actions, just chaos and chaos. Still such a huge step in quality for these shows and I feel gratitude for that.
@Druong Жыл бұрын
For sure the animation and music were both 10/10, and the use of black metal was absolutely perfect and a welcome surprise. The fact that they actually respected the source material is also nice lmao. Unfortunately the rushed plot and underdeveloped characters definitely prevented the show from being amazing IMO.
@peterwolf8395 Жыл бұрын
For me that chaos is cyberpunk and tbh some smart ass always says the writing sucks, but if they are the minority the writer did a great job
@kairosguillot9227 Жыл бұрын
@@peterwolf8395 It's the same thing as the "minority" that says that FIFA games sucks. If a lot or less people say something it doesn't make it truth and it has nothing to do with the actual quality. Glad you enjoyed it tho!
@intelligent_kiddo9578 Жыл бұрын
@@peterwolf8395 my guy, have you ever heard any BTS song? Well they have billions of views and trillions of fans, so it's gotta be peak music, right?
@TravisSgyatt Жыл бұрын
@@kairosguillot9227 i think the majority of people know fifa sucks lol. Who wants to play fifa over any other game. It’s not trash like obviously that’s objective. People enjoy what they enjoy. But compared to any game that was made with any inkling of care, it sucks
@TWICEVENTEEN7 ай бұрын
I dont get David at all. Never applied any strategic plans and just rushed into fights without any thought. The guy is apparently a genius straight A student but he was honestly dumber than Naruto or Luffy. I did like Maine and Dorio but I find the rest unlikeable especially Rebecca. I love CP2077 and watched the anime because of it but it is definitely the weakest aspect about Cyberpunk universe for me
@eternal7912 Жыл бұрын
Good to see a youtuber that's not overplaying the quality of Edgerunners. Edgerunners was good, but not great. I'm tired of people comparing it to the likes of Arcane which is way above Edgerunners in pretty much every way. Honestly, this show had very little effect on me emotionally. When Adam Smasher showed up, I was rooting for him. I was very slightly sad that the most entertaining character got flattened by him, but I was mostly just excited to see Adam doing some Smashing.
@allanredhill8682 Жыл бұрын
I really think the only pacing issue is the time jump after episode 6. literally one additional episode to bridge this gap more smoothly would have fixed it. Also some early dialogue is too exposition heavy and sounds unnatural but overall I think the story worked really well. It was predictable, however I think if you watch a fuck ton of shows and anime its really hard to surprise you anymore. Its kinda hard for me to get emotionally invested in stuff anymore because I know so many of the writing tropes - but that doesnt mean smt is poor quality just because I can tell where its going. Edge runners is one of the few shows over the last years that got me emotionally invested while watching it tho - still its not really up there with shows like bebop, Arcane or even things like Vinland Saga imo. Its good, visually super impressive but its not a genre defining masterpiece by any means imo
@Druong Жыл бұрын
I agree that predictable does NOT equal bad! And yeah the early dialogue I felt was definitely a bit clunky
@abaronofchivalry5176 Жыл бұрын
Personally, the ending for me was a bit sad. I know some people sobbed over it, but I wasn't hurt terribly by it. The rest of the show was absolutely fantastic though. From action scenes to chill scenes, the characater writing etc... All done in the time span of 10 episodes, needless to say, I'm wickedly impressed and this will easily be a fan-favorite as well as a top-rated anime of the year.
@cendresaphoenix1974 Жыл бұрын
I was bored
@abaronofchivalry5176 Жыл бұрын
@@cendresaphoenix1974 Touche
@ZenTunE- Жыл бұрын
Yeah. A bit of tears but the ending was a bit overhyped.
@newfaith912 Жыл бұрын
Not everything has to be 50 hours long. The fact that they got their point and story in that short amount of screen time is even more amazing.
@soulofcinder3165 Жыл бұрын
A mediocre story that felt rushed
@newfaith912 Жыл бұрын
@@soulofcinder3165 Hows that mediocre XD They managed to hook so many ppl up in that short time of 10 episodes. Many many many Hollywood movies cant make 1 character good in 3-4 hours let alone 5 or 6. Not to mention all other avenues that are not strictly answered and could be explored. You are just missing all that depth inside show because you expected flat show like most others you watched. But this show is all but flat. Its a roller-coaster of mixed messages and feelings you have to chew to understand.
@shcuf95 Жыл бұрын
No, it´s not amazing to stuff so much information into 10 episodes when you could have done better with 2-3 seasons to finish the exact same storyline. The visuals and the story idea are amazing but the story definitly lacks of exposition. Hollywood doing stuff worse is not a excuse. Thats like coming home from school telling your parents you had a bad grade but everyone else did worse than you. The show being a rollercoaster does not make up for the fact that nearly every character had no developement and was just... there. I mean, who the fuck remembers Dorio, what was her role? Pilar, yeah, shocking death, but thats it, he was forgotten even by every main character inside the show 5 minutes screentime after his death. Compared to that Rebecca being stomped by Smasher hurt like I kick in the nuts.
@newfaith912 Жыл бұрын
@@shcuf95 idk i feel like your opinion is way too subjective. It is valid objection but its subjective opinion. I am sad there is only those 10 short episodes but i still think its fine. Cyberpunk is supposed to be like that. Short stories about ppl in night city. Just a gig nothing more. Again u are used to Hollywood type of stories where u milk show. That is fine but this is not that type of show. Its more of a samurai jack type of story. 10 episodes each 22 mins but quality on top. Do you think samurai jack is short and flat as well?
@jeppepape8480 Жыл бұрын
@@newfaith912 you are confusing subjective and objective here. Saying you dont like the art style is a subjective opinion. Pointing out how everyone but lucy had 0 backstory ( lucy's being very short and not delved into at all), oack of character development especially the rushed ones like davids. All of that is objective. You can like or not care about it, but it is pretty much set in stone facts about the show. Yes the show is amazing, especially for a 10 episode series, but it is clear as day that it needed more episodes to flesh out the story it wanted to tell fully, i mean we used a huge timeskip in the story, when the story is only 10 episodes, it is just evident that it needed more..
@jasonjaimes5668 Жыл бұрын
Everywhere I go, this show is plastered with words like "masterpiece" or "phenomenal", i mean it isn't bad but it's by no means a masterpiece. I found the plot to be all over the place, and the pacing to be way too dam fast, i felt lost most of the time with things escalating rapidly not allowing any attachments to the ideas they were trying to portray. Again I'm not saying it was bad, i did enjoy watching it but it's pretty overhyped
@kaibaskywalker2725 Жыл бұрын
Lol what you want one full season of pure filler ? Lol
@jasonjaimes5668 Жыл бұрын
@@kaibaskywalker2725 i want pacing that makes sense
@peterwolf8395 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonjaimes5668 For you that is and since you disagree with the majority you not the target for this show anyway but hey i can see it being average in some eyes. But for me its awesome.
@jasonjaimes5668 Жыл бұрын
@@peterwolf8395 I'd say I am a target for the show since i love the theme of sci-fi that it has, i do like cyberpunk 2077 aswell, that doesn't mean someone who isn't a fan or "target" cant have a say on if the show is flawed or not, even if they are in the minority. I'll say it again, i like the show, it isn't bad by any means, just a tad bit overrated.
@ineedbetteraim883 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonjaimes5668 Imo, for what little creative freedom trigger studios was given, I'd say the anime turned out pretty well.
@MJayyyS Жыл бұрын
in my Opinion, David was being held back a whole lot in development and i feel like she should've let him take on Smasher fully. it would've made for a better story if he chose Rebecca instead. i blame Studio Trigger for this. i only blame them, because Kill-La-Kill, was a very short anime they did and wasn't that good in terms of story. CDPR actually had a lot more say in the style and how they want it to look and Studio Trigger fucked them over big time. CDPR should've worked with Funimation or Aniplex for this anime adaptation. it's a good anime, but there's SO many plot holes, but there is room for another season, where David becomes a construct, even after refusing Smashers offer.
@CyberCervine Жыл бұрын
Rebecca and David definitely had more chemistry tbh but that's mostly because Lucy's character is flat
@onurozguzel8747 Жыл бұрын
At last, somebody who shares the same idea as me. I'm a guy who likes the stories behind the product. For the Cyberpunk game, it liked it very much because of the story & character development. But I couldn't sympathize anyone in the Edgerunners show. It was not clear why these characters makes these choises in the anime. So for someone who cares the story much more than other stuff, I couldn't get the fun as much as I wanted from the anime. Then, I checked the internet and everybody was crazy about it. I don't know how you can call something as Masterpiece without a valid story & character development.
@Royalskunk974 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, for being a very emotional person, I didn't even get why people were sobbing, feeling depressed about it. Like, we don't even get the required amount of time to get attached to the characters, why would I even cry for someone I legit dont even know. I mean, you could even cry about their relationship being broken so suddently, but even their relationship felt rushed and kind of inexistant. They're perfect strangers then end up walking around completely naked and getting affectionate after 2-3 episodes, where's the development, exactly ? Clearly rushed and overrated, still good, a solid 7-7.5/10 but definitely not a 8.5-10/10 like what most people say
@Homersimpsonitalian11 ай бұрын
@@Royalskunk974simple, they used visual and musical methods to get people to care about a relationship between generic shonen boy who becomes le edgy adult and a lady with the personality of a cardboard cut out, the show isn't bad id say it's just not OMG THE BEST REPRESENTATION OF CYBERPUNK STUFF EVER ITS A MASTERPIECE. Look I get everyone has their own taste but if everything can be considered a masterpiece based on how people "feel" then there are no true masterpieces.
@arsonistsavior Жыл бұрын
all i hear is i wish i had more time with these characters. me too
@yaboi8653 Жыл бұрын
I REALLY enjoyed edgerunners. Been a while since I’ve seen an anime that’s hooked me like this. A show with material that wasn’t being made with the thought that kids might see it so let’s hold back on the profanity and other content of that nature. Even so, this critique is pretty fair. The show could’ve definitely benefited from more episodes building on particular plot points and character development.
@DartsLetsGo Жыл бұрын
It's mature in the ways a teenager thinks are mature.
@foxskyful Жыл бұрын
Funny, most people who liked so much this show are probably teenagers and kids
@peinbody84 Жыл бұрын
After episode 6 is where it all falls apart for me. David and Lucy had some good chemistry with no payoff down the line. We were made to be sympathetic to David, with his mom dying and his romance sparking with Lucy in the first couple episodes. The Lucy we see in the first episode, the one riding the gurney with him, and taking him on the Moon date, we never really see that side of her again. She goes cold until the kiss, which I don't think was earned, and then they skip time and they're living together? She wants to protect him from the megacorps, while he proceeds to throttle himself to an early grave through excessive cybernetics. Speaking of which: the only thing Lucy wanted from David was to not see him killed, just for David to go on a cybernetics binge OFF SCREEN? How did that affect their relationship? They were cohabitating and sleeping in the same bed, did she not see where his life would go? She would remind him not to use the sandy more than twice prior to Maine's death, so where was her concern when he replaced most of his flesh with chrome? She even said he's not special or immune, saying he just has a higher tolerance. I originally thought that was a misdirect, and he'd come back from the edge and they'd live happily ever after, stealing a rocket to the Moon in a netrunning heist to get as far away from NC and the megacorps as possible. But no, what the doc and Lucy and the crew all warned him about happened. Sure, he had that moment at the end with Lucy bringing back his sanity, only for him to die, so it doesn't change the end result that Lucy and David aren't together on the Moon. I could see the grief in Lucy's face in that last scene, but I felt empty. The emotional response they tried to elicit wasn't there for me. They were so fun together in the first couple episodes, so with minimal relationship development in between, the last scene on the Moon only brought me emptiness. I also felt depressed once I saw Swole David. I knew he'd become a psycho, because so many characters have told me that's what happens, and we just saw Maine get blown to bits for going psycho. So it was a slow and predictable fall into madness that didn't seem to worry Lucy. Again, she would remind him not to use the sandy more than twice per day prior to Maine's death, so where was her concern when he replaced most of his flesh with chrome? I was in more pain than her at where he was headed, and I've only known the kid for 2 hours. That said, the visuals, art, aesthetic, character design, music and animation were all top tier. The world CDPR crafted is incredible and dynamic, so a lot more stories can, and probably will, be written there. I just hope they're better written.
@tyoubergirl123 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% at the beginning I rly thought this show will be amazing but as it went on after the time skip I also had the same question as you, doesn‘t she see him slowly dying cause he modified too much and does overuse? Also I felt no connection between them in the scenes at their apartment. Felt like an old married couple that just is there, if you get my point. Surely it has a timeskip and at the time they probably were already a decent amount of time together but this did not help to show the bond at all! The saddest I felt was when the small girl died at the end but only cause she looked cool and badass… The show is worth a watch, but I would not in a million years call it a masterpiece. And also saying stuff like “if it had more episodes“, just stop. They knew they had 10 episodes to work with. Other “short“ shows like Erased or the ones he mentioned were very good with this little time. I think this is the dumbest thing to say from hardcore fans, and if humans had wings we could fly 💀… we are talking about facts and how it got executed. Not some dream world were this show has 24 episodes or even 12. So many people are talking about how this Anime is their favourite of all time and I‘m questioning the why? I really would like to know cause I can‘t understand. But otherwise it‘s beautiful animated and the soundtracks are also nice.
@lacamerongant456 Жыл бұрын
My dude is just mad there wasn't more episodes to edgerunners and honestly I can relate
@ScoobiezDew Жыл бұрын
I like to think that from episode 5 when David was abducted and tortured. I like to think that he never was actually saved and that episode 5-10 was just one of his torture lives that he lived before he wakes up again.
@FemboyHasu Жыл бұрын
what I think had a huge impact on anime being so well received is that people who played the game are constantly like: "Hey! I was there, I've done that!" and that significantly help relate to the characters.
@BlackApricot Жыл бұрын
no. i didn't play the game and I was having fun through and through. i noticed some settings looked similar from bits and bops i watched on youtube, but never played cyberpunk. but the anime is good!
@FemboyHasu Жыл бұрын
@@BlackApricot well I didn't say you won't have fun or you won't relate to characters if you didn't play the game. I just said you relate to them more if you did.
@ianvaldes3073 Жыл бұрын
Your main critique is that you didn't get more of the show. Watch it more than once and you'll notice almost everything you're asking for is there. Yeah it's quick but every time I watch it I notice more and more foreshadowing and development that I didn't notice before. This type of storytelling is more realistic because this show doesn't revolve around giving everyone such a "perfect" story or development and making them the main character or overly elevated. Real life isn't like that. Also everyone in night cities lives are like this. The fact that you didn't notice Maine going Cyberpsycho puts you in the seat of people like David too caught up in their own struggles to notice how fucked everything is. Their whole world as fucked. That's just how it is. Also comparing this to Akame Ga Kill is just a sin. That show is unbelievable trash writing vs a show that was a little bit rushed feeling at times. All the other animes you mention have stories that are far less compelling and rich than Cyberpunk. They told simple stories over 12 episodes. Maybe that's your main issue but this show was complex, mature, and far more compelling than any anime you mentioned.
@Ryan_F. Жыл бұрын
I think it’s pretty clear why Maine wanted more implants. The show tells you that everyone basically acts the same way in Night City. If you are brought to the point where you go for implants, you don’t stop. Maine’s death and psychosis was making that more real-I do agree it was rushed though. That point is also reinforced by what happened to David.
@Ryan_F. Жыл бұрын
Also, there was an interview with the creator and he said that no one even mentioned a season 2 btw. They considered this a complete story.
@You-to-be Жыл бұрын
@@Ryan_F. creator of cyberpunk? Or do you mean director of the anime. Those aren't the same thing by the way. Director of harry potter movie isn't the creator.
@Ryan_F. Жыл бұрын
@@You-to-be as far as I know it’s the person from CDPR who came up with the initial idea for the story. You can find the interview in a podcast from a channel called SkillUp just after the series was released on Netflix
@You-to-be Жыл бұрын
@@Ryan_F. CDPR didn't create the universe, they bought it from someone. They're not the creators, simply bought the IP.
@Ryan_F. Жыл бұрын
@@You-to-be I mean the creator of Cyberpunk Edgerunners. They did create that story together with Trigger
@user-wi9se5ll3j Жыл бұрын
I felt nothing I'm not heartless I've just seen that shit thousands of time.
@user-rk2xi7iw9k Жыл бұрын
I think edgerunners made me realize that Cyberpunk as a genre is becoming extremely stale, it simply refuses to move on from Bladerunner, ghost in the shell and neuromancer and what they have established.
@__shifty Жыл бұрын
this makes zero sense. imagine if i said the romantic comedy genre is stale because it "refuses to move on from how to lose a guy in 10 days or hitch or 50 first dates and what they established"... how is a genre supposed to move on and what should it move on to? a new genre?
@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia5 ай бұрын
@@__shifty Innovate. Use your brain
@oscard.lisboa61053 ай бұрын
Maybe because thats the genre?
@sweetmess1993 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, I've heard that this was as good as Arcane but I didn't think it was that good. The most impactful moments to me were Maine's death (if they explained his backstory it definitely would've been better cause I didn't understand why he imagined the desert during his psycho moments, but still it hit me hard) and Becca's death 🥲
@tishyo778 ай бұрын
Lucy and David's romance is definitely what bothered me the most in the show. It felt like they were in love just because they were the main characters. Them sharing a wholesome time on the moon doesnt mean that they have chemistry. It bothers me even more because their romance is a big part of the show and thats what is praised by people all around me. Rebecca had way more chemistry with David because we actually saw them spend some normal time together.
@Steve-yn3cs Жыл бұрын
As much as I enjoyed Edgerunners, I'd also say yes... It's kinda overrated. For some reasons (similar to the ones you mentioned) 1. David's ability to "magically do things without explanation"(like using that technology more than he's usually supposed to). I hoped for an explanation as to why when I was first watching it. I was disappointed. I say disappointed because I also hate this trope particularly popular among the depiction of "strong" female characters in Feminist Hollywood. If your character just "does" stuff without much struggle, it kind of leaves you with an "eh?" Moment. So I pretty much criticise this trope, irrespective of genders, so yeah. David is also guilty of this. 2. Underdeveloped characters: David's Mom, Kiwi, Maine, Pilar, Maine's girlfriend, and so many more. Because of the 10 episode limit, they had to compress everything. Which again leads me to talk about NETFLIX 😒. I'm beginning to HATE this platform because of its "binge" style episode release. It's killing fanbases. (Like what it did to JoJo's Bizarre adventures). Everyone watches anime now, because, I dunno, it's something that's supposed to be cool now? So Netflix saw the popularity, and started landing themselves anime deals. Which is BAD. Because it's changing anime for the WORST(Look at attack on titan, it's still dividing itself into parts upon parts, which is unnecessary, because it's obvious that they just want to make more money by allowing causal people consume their content) If it were Weekly episode released, Edgerunners would have had more time for writing, character arcs, plot points and developments. (Netflix Better keep their hands off my best anime series and stop ruining beloved fanbases for profit) 3. It was predictable; The shock values were just... Shock values. Like jumpscares in a horror movie. Not too much impact. Rebecca's death was totally unnecessary if you ask me. 4. I actually preferred Rebecca for David, I didn't like the romance between David and Lucy. I felt they connected more on a shared respect/team mate level, not the kind of level we saw(like how Tatsumi and Akame were) 5. The show reminds me of the overrated Demon Slayer anime. Honestly, if you take way the epic music, animation, and action scenes from Edgerunners, it becomes a sort of mess. (For the record, Demon Slayer isn't even better, it has really no much story to tell and just relies so much on its animation, CGI, epic music and fight scenes, I couldn't even connect with the main character, so yeah). Apart from all these I mentioned, Edgerunners is pretty much a good show(actually I thought it was a masterpiece at first after I watched it because it was so much better than the game, I think that's what blinded me to it's flaws which you've just made me realize). If only Netflix would stop trying to be everything for everyone, I wonder what this show would have been more like.
@__shifty Жыл бұрын
1: it explains episode 1 that everyone has different tolerances for cyber implants. david simply has a higher than average tolerance. this goes for how many implants you can get AND for how often you can use them. and the male version of a mary sue is commonly refered to as a gary stu. (pretty sure thats what you're talking about.) 2: you say "they had to compress" but i say they had no need to expand on side characters. each had enough told about them for their parts in the story. this is where filler comes from in other anime. i dont like filler episodes. they break the pacing of the main story 3: buy a lottery ticket then if you saw all the twists comin. i was truly caught off guard many times. and all of their deaths WERE unnecessary, thats what makes their story tragic. not all stories have happy endings and i love when a show is not afraid to kill characters. adam smasher killing becca DOES serve a purpose in the story though. it shows the audience just how ruthless and cold blooded adam smasher truly is. 4: becca best girl, cant argue. 5: demon slayer? edge runners was great. who needs filler episodes?
@Steve-yn3cs Жыл бұрын
@@__shifty David just said... "I'm built differently" and that's all we EVER got as to how he became a Gary Stu. I'm like... "Meh... I don't know, I need something bigger than that." Demon Slayer is overrated is what I meant, it doesn't exactly have a compelling story. If you take away most of the good Animations, the Aesthetics, the Music and all it wouldn't have much of an impact. Imagine you watched Episode 1, like the episode 1 where they conveniently killed David's Mom without "Let You Down" by Dawid playing in the background afterwards, I'd bet you, that scene wouldn't be the same as we saw it. It had her on screen for uh... 10 minutes or something? So the music was there to be manipulative, to help with the scene, which isn't bad. Again. It's just worth noting. Why I said I needed fillers for the episodes are because I'm somewhat of a slow paced movie kinda guy, and I want scenes where I connect more with the characters, because I didn't know them too well, like... This is the difference, people think that likeability of a character is the same as connectivity of a character. They're two different things. You can like a character but not connect with them. That's exactly what happened in Edgerunners, people put those two things together, and assume it's exactly the same. I liked these characters(but I didn't connect much with them) and I wanted more. Why did Kiwi do what she did? The nature of Becca's relationship with her brother, Maine's motivation for cybernetic enhancements, the lovestory of Maine and his girlfriend. Like if you think I'm just being an overdemanding fan, I'm not. Arcane did this well, but again, given Arcane was Netflix too, the binge episode thing is not for my stomach. And I wondered how much Arcane would have been better if the animation team wasn't given a deadline to release all episodes. Apart from that the show is really good, but it's not a masterpiece. It was rushed.
@dice-gi1ig Жыл бұрын
the anime was cringe
@Idiosyncrasy Жыл бұрын
It is a masterpiece, it did what some any couldn't achieve in *10 episodes*, with visuals for fights we'll probably never see in another anime. One in a lifetime anime for sure.
@WorkoutBestSound8 ай бұрын
The only good part of this disaster is when Adam Smasher gives these annoying kids a lesson
@dreadedpunk3473 Жыл бұрын
My take on the whole series is that, it would have had more potential if it had more episodes. This way, it's just an "Ok, seen this one. It was ok." type of deal. I couldn't really get attached to any of the characters. And in the end, when Smasher came in, I won't lie, that was the hype moment for me. Finally getting to see Smasher do his thing was great to watch. Probably the only character in the series that I really could get behind. And that was due to me knowing the character enough to give a damn. Naturally I smiled at the easter egg about Rogue, but again, that is due to familiarity.
@ninetenduh Жыл бұрын
As always, people like something and instantly believe that it is a masterpiece, they said it about so many anime that from a critical standpoint are all quite awful, such as attack on titan, Sword art online and such, it's simply because they like it that they ignore logic and common sense. Edgerunners is good, in many ways fantastic, but a masterpiece has no flaws, which edgerunner has many of. Also, Rebecca is best girl, her death served absolutely no purpose at all, it doesn't progress the story and only serves to make people upset and sad she died, which is a really cheap death.
@tonigarces7211 Жыл бұрын
Most of this issues boil down to only having 10 episodes, cyberpunk edgerunners is not a masterpiece, but it's pretty damn good on what it tries to teach the viewer. I wish this anime had way more episodes, so much could've been explored.
@David_A_E Жыл бұрын
Wow, great video, really liked it. Cyberpunk Edgedrunners is definitely a damn good anime but I just couldn't agree with it being as good as a lot of people are making it out to be online because of the pacing. I really wish they would've given it the 2 or 3 episodes that it needed, that way I would've been able to enjoy it so much more and maybe give it that 10/10, because it definitely had the potential. Regardless, I think they did a great job with the animation, music and characters which is why I gave it a 8.4/10
@yvngzxm9190 Жыл бұрын
its a solid anime but its not as good as the cyberpunk community says it is
@mesmorrow Жыл бұрын
Here they come, it always happens, when something good is legitimately praised for a few months you always have the oddballs crawl out of the woodwork to say otherwise a few months later.
@mkzhero Жыл бұрын
I'd say even you overrate it. The drawing is indeed good, but it falls off at some scenes, and the animation is pretty choppy often, to the point you can't follow it. The show shoves in a bit too much humor and comedic relief, lighthearted shit for it to match the overall feel of the show and night city. The Lucy's character is all over the fucking place, at the start she's kind of even more like Rebecca at at some points, especially that stretcher ambulance escape scene, where did THAT Lucy go again..? People say David's solid, like he knows what he's doing and he has a goal, but he just seems confused as fuck most of the time, especially after he becomes boss. "Oh but he made her dream come true"... Well, her dream came true more DESPITE what he did than thanks to it. More than that, she didn't really seem to want it by that point over her friends living on, if he'd slow down and take simpler jobs, he could still earn enough money and stay away from the more dangerous stuff so everyone would stay alive. Heck she SPECIFICALLY asked him to stop and slow down. The bad guy is just a paper cutout. The hacker girl didn't have a real reason to betray them nor assume she'd live after doing it. Smasher... Well, his name says it all, he's just in there to come and fuck everyone up. And the worst of all, the whole thing is just fucking pointless. Like, what's the message? What's the theme? Everyone dies horribly in night city, you're not special and you can't escape it? No, because its not like they even tried or even seemed dissatisfied, only Lucy, but what's to stop her and the rest to move elsewhere? They're outlaws, they have cars and seem to have the money too, why not move out? Its just a high budget trigger show, but with the ending and main story, goals, EVERYTHING removed. But hey, i get why its so loved, because everyone feels the countries and cities they live in will take them nowhere, drain them dry and kill them early, and they're nihilistic, without goals, morals and values, fear where the future with current trends takes us... Which cyberpunk portrays pretty well, and gives that little 'i'll die anyway so might as well try do something and give a fuck you to everything' flip-off... The problem is, that its an idiotic reply to an idiotic situation, and don't present any real questions or insights as to why the world is this way, where it went wrong, what can be done to change or avoid it. Its reactionary, they go with the flow down the drain, and no matter how well you draw that journey, its still ending up in the gutter, its still gonna be full of shit, and no amount of neon and shiny lights, other decoration, and turd polishing will give that one way trip a point, nor make the final destination any more prettier or meaningful. And a story without a point is just a tech demo, or documentary, which are, well, boring.
@DrQuantumXz Жыл бұрын
Very well said, you hit on many things I think people have yet to consider because they are still feeling the hype.
@allaccordingtoplan5560 Жыл бұрын
Lol everyone's a critic these days 😂🤦♂️
@mkzhero Жыл бұрын
@@allaccordingtoplan5560 great argument. So much to think about. So much to analyze and reply to. Simply 10/10, i cannot ever hope to reach such intellectual heights!
@allaccordingtoplan5560 Жыл бұрын
@@mkzhero Not looking for an argument (that's the problem with KZfaq these days lmao). Made an observation and if you don't like it then oh well 🤷♂️😂
@mkzhero Жыл бұрын
@@allaccordingtoplan5560 What 'observation'? You simply demonstrated your discontent with people daring to analyze something, which is pretty idiotic frankly. EVERYONE should be criticizing and thinking how to improve everything around them, as well as themselves, that's how progress is made, and the reason why we're not still running naked in the jungle with sticks. Its the opposite even, people NOT doing that and not pushing for improvement is the reason we're currently in an era of relative stagnation and some things even getting WORSE than they used to be some time ago.
@user-xz4ec9ip8s7 ай бұрын
My thoughts overall: -Terrible pacing. Need more like 15-20 episodes. -No character development. -Characters aren't around long enough to get to know them let alone care when they die. -Predictable plot -Why is everyone pointlessly naked all the time? -Dee and Lucy (mains) have the personality of cardboard. Them falling in love is their only point. -Some scenes sit on the same frame for way too long, to the point to where I think my monitor is frozen. -Writing leaves a lot to be desired overall. On a more positive note: -Banger music and scores -Excellent drawing and color design (aesthetics overall really) They could've have done so much more with this show that it just leaves me sad really.
@CyberCervine Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video so much you go into so much issues I had with this show (though I have a few more issues not mentioned though they were small). I haven't been able to converse with others who don't like the show so I'm personally happy the video exists lol.
@JcGross93 Жыл бұрын
I hated this series. It's not even good in my opinion, it's mediocre at best. I don't like the animation (the backgrounds are the only thing that look good), I don't like the music, the dub is awful, the dialogue is pure cringe (especially the delivery of those lines), character moments are unearned, the whole thing is overly melodramatic, and the story becomes pointless by the end. The thing that I really don't understand is why they keep forcing these serious stories into this franchise. This was my problem with the game too. This setting is so incredibly unbelievable that trying to tell anything remotely serious and relatable is just hilarious in itself. Night city is such an unlivable shithole that I cannot believe this could exist. They should've just gone in the direction more lighthearted, corny, 80s style, balls to the walls plotline with one-liners, cool ass fights, a devil may care protagonist and some outlandish storyline where they somehow end up fighting on the moon or some shit like that. Like how in the game they should've just had the whole game be Johnny Silverhand's previous adventures, culminating with detonating a freaking nuke in the city! That's a way cooler story than anything else in the game and the anime combined. But I accept that a lot of people like it, good for them, I don't have to like everything. It's just not for me.
@galactose_fructosemonosacc343 Жыл бұрын
I've seen the "everybody dies" trope. Edgerunner has done it in a way where it makes sense especially in the universe it's set in. I think the best part about it is that they don't drag out pointless shit for no reason like Lucy and David's relationship
@grandgibbon2071 Жыл бұрын
100% agree, I also like that it was a strained relationship.
@kchikwete Жыл бұрын
I can't get over the fact that the villians master plan was to give the MC a BIG gun and steal his girl, WTF did you think was gonna happen!!
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
Totally true. Not a masterpiece. Lazy writing, tropes. People losing their minds over this series, and i watched it like “what yeah no.” Seriously go watch a well-written well-paced series with great characters like FLCL & Cowboy Bebop. People have pretty low standards now. Sure the animation is good. The music is fine. But seriously the writing is like medicre minus, so i have to say the level of “masterpiece” hype is ridiculous. They’re like, calling each other “cyberpunks..” cyberpunk is a word made up by boomer critics who didn’t understand the genre. No writer who wrote cyberpunk fiction called it cyberpunk, much less calling people “a cyberpunk.” Do your research on the genre. That’s just a detail but it says a lot about how the writers didn’t nail it.
@Voolee21963 ай бұрын
The only moral story: Smasher is the true hero for ending this cringe worthy spin off.
@mikeshinwa3398 Жыл бұрын
*Cue all the of people insulting the content creator for having his own opinion*. It's sad to see the culture these days being tipped heavily in favour of the 'hype' narrative and dismissal of any criticisms or negative opinions one may have for a piece of entertainment media. People see the word 'overrated' and instantly get triggered (pun not intended). It's as if people don't understand you can still like a media without thinking it's some sort of Second coming of Christ. I, for one, agree with your take, or at the very least, can definitely understand and respect it. I thought Edgerunners was pretty damn good and was great supplementary material to the Cyberpunk game that would no doubt attract people to the game (newcomers and CDPR fans alike); but it did have some problems here and there (a lot of them you've already covered). I think a lot of it boils down to the story being covered in 10 episodes only; all these plot points being compressed in 10 episodes would inevitably lead to some problems.
@Druong Жыл бұрын
Yeah feels like a lot of people think "overrated" means bad, when I made it clear I thought it was good, just not a masterpiece. Anyways, appreciate the support and subscribe for more vids like this!
@allaccordingtoplan5560 Жыл бұрын
I think you also don't seem to realize that we live in a time where seemingly every content creator is a clout chaser and purpose have unpopular opinions for the sake of views and attention and it plaguing YT (like Triggered Senpai). So you can't really fault people for reacting the way they do when they see overused titles like the one this dude used.
@mikeshinwa3398 Жыл бұрын
@@allaccordingtoplan5560 without watching the video? Provocative titles and thumbnails (or things of a similar nature) have been used for so long at this point. I’m more concerned with the content of the video. It just reflects the poor attention span of the viewer.
@allaccordingtoplan5560 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeshinwa3398 No, it just shows that people are tired of people putting “trash” “overrated” and “sucks” in thumbnails either to be the one to “go against the flow” or to just double down in the video for the desperation of clicks and getting detected by the algorithm. It has less to do with “attention span” than you think...
@mikeshinwa3398 Жыл бұрын
@@allaccordingtoplan5560 That’s a hell of a reach. Videos with obnoxious thumbnails and high modality words have been a staple of KZfaq for years at this point; people aren’t just tired of negative thumbnails, they are tired of overblown thumbnails in general. I think this has more to do with fans being overly attached to their favourite media, such that the anger and tiredness they have for these thumbnails and titles is amplified. It’s easy to reduce everything down to the creator being a clout chaser, but that’s only valid if the video content is garbage. There’s nothing wrong with using eye-catching (sometime provocative) thumbnails, if the content itself is genuine and reasonably well thought out. Just my opinion.
@CasualSpec11 ай бұрын
All I got out of it was, murder porn + hentai + edgy middle school dialogue. The writing is just kinda there, the characters come off as flat and generic, and an overwhelming in your face, edgy taboo elements. In my opinion, everything comes off as forced, like "Hey check this out, BLOOD! GORE! WE USE WORDS LIKE FUCK AND SHIT, OH! AND BOOOOOBS!" Honestly comes off as a hot mess that tries to carry the "Hopeless Romantic" element as it's saving grace. I just dont find much substance or depth with this one.
@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia5 ай бұрын
100% agree. Its very good anime for edgy teenagers.
@DangerNoodlez144 Жыл бұрын
I don't get why people hype trigger so much. They're pacing is terrible. They literally write like if its a 10 second tik tok video.
@ChemyNoSurfea Жыл бұрын
I love gurren lagann to death so I'll always give them a chance but this is true.
@baxter14x99 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%, everyone thinks I’m crazy cause I said the show was OK. I just felt like I didn’t care enough about the characters and I wanted MORE. Honestly the ending was kinda predictable and I wasn’t blown away or moved by it as much as everyone else says. It’s entertaining and the action scenes were great, but I just felt it was lacking unfortunately
@jullcepts8780 Жыл бұрын
If I'm understanding correctly... you liked the show, it's just that it was rushed for all the plot points that got presented. And that is understandable. I've watched this show already 3 times and on the second time after all the hype and excitement was down I find myself agreeing with you even tho I loved this show. Edgerunners moves ABSURDLY FAST. Probably due to the short ammount of episodes or the fact that the story is about David Martinez, how he went to the edge, back from it, then back to it, then back from it, then died and the Afterlife made a coctail in his honor. The thing with Maine going cyberpsicho was rushed, but the story is not about Maine, is about David. What he had, how he lost it, what he found, how he lost it, what little he managed to save and in the end how he died. I feel this story is narrated in the same way someone would pass down a legend through tale. And that applies to all the other subplots that felt rushed. Like Falco talking to people in the Afterlife about the legend of David. I believe you have the right to stand where you stand with the show and you do make valid points. Yet I still can forgive the show's flaws mainly because of the fact that this was David's legend, not about the other characters. I would appreciate another 10 episodes spin offs that show us the backstories of characters like Maine, especially Rebbeca, Lucy, etc etc etc. But as it stands I'm still going to praise what this show accomplished to make me feel in such a short ammount of time. To solidify more my point, take for example and just as an example the original Star Wars trilogy. Another production praised and considered a masterpiece... yet what do we know about the life of Han Solo? Chewy? Lando? Bobba Fett? Obi Wan? Yoda? Leia?... Heck what do we know about Darth Vader ONLY looking at the trilogy? (not the prequels, nor the comics). Pretty little. And what do we know about Luke? Pretty much more than we know about the other characters. I mean the story IS about Luke. Yet how those characters are presented, their personalities and the impressions that they leave in us as the audience we remember them and feel strongly towards them. I believe the same idea applies to Edgerunners. Its characters exude personality all over in a way that you don't need to know their whole life story to feel shocked when they meet their eventual end.
@multideath15 Жыл бұрын
But that’s THE POINT Johnny Silverhand rocked the world as a mega rockstar and then went Cyberpunk and in a day NUKED Saka tower and DIED Live fast and Die hard is literally a saying in night city
@xeibei4804 Жыл бұрын
@@multideath15 that doesn't mean you have to make the story worse and rush only to prove a stupid point. You could prove it even with like 24 episodes.
@multideath15 Жыл бұрын
@@xeibei4804 it probably wasn’t by choice…
@ufeelinselfrighteous84709 ай бұрын
finally watched the whole thing. the animation is kinda shit. The story is border line palatable and the music is way WAY off the point. Love scene music "i am done with you, im ignoring you, i dont wanna knoooooowwww" Pretty shit.
@jezebulls3 ай бұрын
You’re not trippen. This anime is a bit overrated, but I personally think it was great. I loved it. Once you find out the dub voice actor for David also voiced Tanjiro, you can’t miss it.
@Mekiza10 ай бұрын
Being connected with the characters and the plot is something I draw from shows, but this Anime had none of the conncetions that drew me to the characters and I honestly don't know what the plot was because everything was so rushed The animation and music isn't enough to draw me into the show Don't get me wrong, the animation and music is beautiful, but not enough for it to be a masterpiece Something can't be a masterpiece if it's missing pieces Solid 4.5/10
@Killermonktr Жыл бұрын
With the resources they were given and the time and episodes in hand, they did really good. Portraying mental health and how power corrupts and how u lose urself in the path of gaining it. Its really nicely visually based and told the whole story not trought words but by letting us see it like maine losing his sanity and dying. I believe that if they had the resources and wanted, they couldve easily gotten 2nd season. Sadly the plot is lacking on some parts with leaving alot of missed opportunities and it feels rushed and it doesnt have enough time to build the plot well enough. BUT everything else is near perfection.
@yeetneet5334 Жыл бұрын
@Odd Revolver they probably will make a season 2, cdpr's product cycle goes games, comics, tv related content/media, merch, mobile experiences then repeat
@Aaroncoop9162 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a great journey, I felt very invested in the story. One area that pulled me out of that immersion is the pace, it felt like the season should have been 12-13 episodes to better flesh out the major plot points.
@michaelhleck5314 Жыл бұрын
I called it before I even watched the show. "A Netflix C.P. anime by Studio Trigger? The visuals are going to be amazing, and the writing is going to be eh."
@heavy5013 Жыл бұрын
Don't agree that Rebecca moved on from Pilar's death quickly. She got mods so she could use bigger guns because what she could use wasn't good enough against the psycho that killed her brother. She also got big hands, somewhat similar to his, she started being more showy when they celebrated. She adopted pieces of him in a way. It seems to me Pilar's death really stuck with her. She just didn't talk about it much.
@Grimmlocked Жыл бұрын
she also disapeared from the show for like 3 episodes after it happened
@sediepremps Жыл бұрын
Yep i agree somewhat it did feel like it should've been longer. They did do a lot of background storytelling cos you realise they actually spent a lot of time together and a lot of things happen off screen buti still feel like it's a great show considering the garbage we're used to now
@meganoobbg3387 Жыл бұрын
Ohh boy, get ready for the angry Cyberpunk fanboy comments bruh. These are the same people who have "this is the best game i ever played" in almost every positive review on Steam (they've been writing such reviews since day 1, when the game was a complete mess btw). And now they're celebrating this mediocre Netflix anime, like its a goddam holiday. lol Im afraid no amount of good arguments is gonna save you from being called a "hater." :D
@mikoartz5006 Жыл бұрын
its mostly fake anime fans who never seen an actual good anime and call things like one peice a master peice when its just flat out boring and yugioh and bakugon is better and more interesting to watch then thag shit
@sonogrande7628 Жыл бұрын
I feel you. People that praise cyberpunk are dumb or blind, there is no other explanation. I have to say it though, the anime is still better than the game, lol.
@loveliestfawn Жыл бұрын
Please shut the fuck up dude the guy literally said the show was "pretty good" in the video. Either you just want to talk shit or you're a fucking idiot. Never understood people that get upset because people are happy or having fun with something, atleast let us try to find solace or some semblance of happiness in this world without you trying to shit on it, asshole.
@sonogrande7628 Жыл бұрын
@Crystalx Oof No man, the story is really bad in the game, it doesn't fit the open world immersive RPG that cyberpunk should have been (now it is basically an action adventure driven story game) The three paths are meaningless, the game felt rushed cause you were basically dying from the start, the problem is always the same, they lied. If they advertised an action adventure game then, the story would be okay(still nothing special IMO), but that crap is not okay for an advertised "immersive RPG with multiple choices that will matter" (spoiler, in cyberpunk, none of your choice will matter). They told us :" you can become a legend in nightcity", but basically, V is a scripted character and you have to "save" his life doing the main quest(that is very short), not talking about the fact that the game lets you do side missions, that is a contradiction to the game main story, considering the fact that you could literally die at any moment, it just doesn't fit. It is the core of the game itself the problem,they were too ambitious, they delivered a mediocre game with shit old mechanics and features , only the graphics is next gen.
@TWICEVENTEEN7 ай бұрын
@@mikoartz5006 One Piece is better than this trash and the other animes you mentioned.
@obolstudios51545 ай бұрын
The one real problem I had with the cyberpunk world is “there is no happy ending” trope with it I know Night city is hell on earth but you can make it out and I think it’s kinda stupid to just go “no one can make it out happy” which is good from a writing point until you realise you can only really have tragedies which aren’t bad by themselves but it’s kinda filters down a lot of the story because I don’t really see an end for Lucy like what is she gonna do? She’s to loyal to David to move on and it just seems like a real dead end to the character because David and Lucy were each others buildings blocks but after episode 10 if you think deeply about how can Lucy really move on from David being gone? The answer: well there really isn’t one we’re not getting a season 2 David got sent to Valhalla by Smasher and we can’t interact with either Falco nor Lucy so I just don’t get it. And I get where people are coming from with Rebecca she doesn’t she only has about 5 mins total of screen time which is why aside from David I never really felt for Rebecca when she died but I will admit this show thankfully doesn’t pull punches it had the balls to kill off the main character which is sonething.
@oscard.lisboa61053 ай бұрын
The point of that is, if you want a happy ending, u gotta leave night city. SPOILER: the happiest ending in the game is when you take the option to leave night city(theres an inkling of hope for V)
@romeoalpasthor5187 Жыл бұрын
Felt nothing. Someone dies after having 10 lines total, and I am supposed to feel emotional? David gets overmeched in one episode and I am supposed to feel he has improved? I could not even remember the names of the characters, excluding David. That is how little character development and even how little character exploration this show had. I did not even know that David was considered a legend until I saw the drink.
@fatkidwithfudge Жыл бұрын
Went in with high hopes from what I heard from everyone else aaaaand.... it was ok. Started off strong and kinda went down from there. Pilar's death was my 1st big notice, of how things felt off. Could've mistaken him for being a recent random hire, the way people just shrugged it off. Which would be fine if they didn't previously, try to do the whole new family crew, bonding montage. Plus some other things like you mentioned. Either way it all boils down to time. Either more episodes, longer episodes, or another season. But that ending got me though. Nobody can take that away from it at least.
@LoveFlappy Жыл бұрын
This was a great video! -Great points -Great personality -Stayed on the subject -great visuals to accompany the theme Keep this up big man!
@Druong Жыл бұрын
Huge thanks for the kind comment and support! Glad you liked the video. Subscribe for more if you like this video bro!
@CureSmileful Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I liked the editing style too
@DjScribblez Жыл бұрын
This is definitely a show where knowing the source material makes it better than not knowing, however, it is still good without knowing the background. It should've gotten at least 2 more episodes to flesh out a little more of the show such as the time skip that happens in episode 7 and delve more into Lucy and Davids relationship along with the others. I don't think its basic story hinders it in anyway though, just because its basic doesn't mean it's bad. It would be nice to have more intricacies, but it doesn't need more. That's why knowing the background of cyberpunk is important. The environmental details are enough to convey that this place sucks ass to live in. Live fast die young. The constant action and fast paced life are how things work in night city. Can't take a breather cause the city itself won't let you. The death scenes are quick and brutal. Can't win against those who can snuff you out in a fraction of a second. From the start of the show, it was a losing battle, but we so desperately want the gang to live cause it's just how our brains work. They never had a chance. For 10 episodes it did exactly what it needed to do, give a glimpse into the life of night city. The possibility for a season 2 depends on where they plan to head. Continue David and Lucys story? Unlikely, however, the theories about David being alive either in a nightmare BD from JK or taken in as a slave for Arasaka are interesting. Or just like the games, have the Nomad or Corpo section of the story as the next season.
@TintorDalibor Жыл бұрын
Just a few important points - That's how cyberpsychosis often works. Quite often it hits without anyone noticing symptoms. Others because they are slight untill the wery end and the chromejokey because they are in perpetual denial. - Big part of why Lucys and Davids romance makes sense is due to who they are. Point is, they really have nobody and this is, as far as we know, their first oxytocin dance. They are both damaged goods, for different reasons, and therefore they are scared to death, literarily, of losing the other one in her case or failing the other one in his case. The romance comes out of the blue but once it's established their personalities and histories explain everything.
@gaarakabuto1 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this video explains pretty well my feelings towards this show. But I want to elaborate a little bit more on the issues this show had. Personally I loved the romance between Lucy and David, but I feel we got a pretty well built starting point, a peak of the mid point and a good amount of their end point of their relationship, but there was no in between no built up it felt like they threw me the ingredients of a great food recipe and they were like " yeah yeah here's the thing, built the thing on your own". My biggest issue with the whole show is how generic many characters were and how many times they built great potential for character development and instead they seemingly went for the safe option. For example David was the most straight line of a character development ever and it shows badly when he is paired with the one of the two characters that actually face character development in the show Lucy, making him look even weaker and bald. He is a dude that his whole personality is "Im good boi", there are things thrown at his that could make him more complex like the idea about being a pawn for the dreams of others, or for finding your identity inside a messy town, or how you should understand your limits to be able to thrive instead of pushing yourself to limits that will only damage you in the long run (which to give them credit on that, they did showcased how the dellusional idea of David being built different somewhat cost the lives of the whole group but Lucy's and Falco's) and all that sort of stuff and the dude is like "nah, me just a good boi". I mean he is not a bad character, just flat, the whole thing felt like a safe way to deliver a decent story. Another thing I want to mention is how they definitely had their faveouritess, Lucy was a great example but of course the second character that was actually well development and felt like it was an actual being with identity and not just a written character for a show was Rebecca. She had a pretty gimmicky and tropy character but she broke them in a realistic way to express her feelings and concerns, she grew. All and all it's a good watch but outside of the aesthetics and the strong moments of the characters (and the music, oh my god the music was amazing) I don't think it will stic with you so much.
@jerrypickins Жыл бұрын
I agree with some of your points, like David's mother not getting much development before she dies, but disagree that her talk with David in the car was merely and "poorly" done exposition. She is a concerned mother who is working multiple jobs to give her son a better life. She is stressed about paying bills, stressed with her illegal activity with Maine's crew, stressed with her jobs, and on top of that, she has just been told that her very talented son might be kicked out for a very avoidable and dumb mistake. All the work she did could be gone with just a snap of a finger. Her breaking down a little in the car reiterating what she had to put up with to make sure David was ok in life isn't just exposition, but real dialog of an overworked single parent trying to make her, seemingly uncaring, son understand the severity of their situation. For me personally, this is not the showrunners talking to us, the audience, through the characters. This is the characters talking to each other while we're watching passively in the back seat.
@Druong Жыл бұрын
It's normal to be frustrated and go on a rant as a hard-working mother in that situation no doubt. But for me, it doesn't change that the dialogue was not written well and felt very inorganic and clunky.
@jamesprice6015 Жыл бұрын
@@Druong you sound a little arrogant for my taste. You might want to dial it back.
@bradcooper5667 Жыл бұрын
The amount of butthurt and cringe in the comments lol. It’s a good anime, but it’s not anime of the year. Get over it
@sololoquy3783 Жыл бұрын
You know what edgerunner reminded me of? The Batman 2022.. It is good, but the hype going in killed it for me. It is as you said, overrated not because it is bad, but because of the cult rating.
@commentbot9510 Жыл бұрын
Let’s compare David’s mom’s death to the death of father Fujimoto in Blue Exorcist. Both died very early in the series. However, in blue exorcist, we were *shown* how father Fujimoto cares for Rin and Yukio through his words *and* actions. There was time to show some of his personality and so when he died, we could miss that character. Meanwhile David’s mom is shown briefly talking about not glamorizing her work, that she forgot to pay for the washing machine, and that she is spending all her money on David’s education because she loves him. She doesn’t have much of a personality and we are told and not shown. You become more sad about the city’s harsh treatment/system then you are about her dying.
@teleblue Жыл бұрын
But that's the thing, cyberpunk delivered emotionally for most people despite its short length and thats thanks to its amazing writing. You seem to not understand that writing is not just the dialogue but the description of the visuals too. And its thanks to this efficient writing that so much could be crammed in and still deliver emotionally. Because the visuals tell so much of the story that we don't have to waste time explaining stuff. And compared to most anime, these characters are much more believable which is another reason why people attached to them so quickly. Cyberpunk did what most anime would take 24 episodes to do. And while i agree Gloria's death came too soon and she could have used an extra episode to help her death be more impactful i think everyone else's deaths were appropriately timed. The only deaths that didn't hurt emotionally were pilar and dorio's but their deaths weren't even meant to be emotional. Pilar's death was a reality check for David when things seemed to be looking up and Dorio's death was just meant to fully push maine towards cyberpsychosis.