Cycling in Carmel, Indiana from a Dutch perspective

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BicycleDutch

BicycleDutch

23 күн бұрын

[Ep. 1025] The city of Carmel, Indiana, is exceptionally people- and cycling-friendly, defying stereotypes for a Midwestern conservative-led small city. Even though it is also still quite car centric, its streetscapes do demonstrate that building livable cities can transcend political divides.
But how does Carmel fare in my Dutch eyes? I travelled from the Netherlands to Indiana to experience cycling in Carmel firsthand.
My generous host Mr. "American Fietser" has his own KZfaq channel, featuring live-streamed rides from Carmel (among other topics). Check it out here: / @americanfietser
More information in the blog post: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/?p...

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@AmericanFietser
@AmericanFietser 22 күн бұрын
I am so happy that we were able to host you in Carmel and have you not only visit as a friend, but as an expert in assessing human-scale infrastructure design centered around active transportation. It's hard to believe that this exists, especially in the middle of Indiana, but I think we're doing very exciting things here in Carmel and this is why my wife and I relocated here over 3 years ago, simply to take advantage of the infrastructure and live a car-lite lifestyle, which is hard to do in the US. This video provides a nice glimpse into what we have to offer and I'm sure that in the coming years, things will only continue to get better as our leadership keeps up the initiative of progressive city design that, as you stated, does not need to be a partisan issue.
@coleciervo5454
@coleciervo5454 18 күн бұрын
The only thing next is to get the state government out of the way of transit infrastructure... Imagine the untold benefits if there were a rail line connecting Carmel to downtown Indy. It is an absolute disgrace that Indiana used to have such a robust rail network and now the government has banned light rail and nearly banned BRT
@cycletricity
@cycletricity 17 күн бұрын
I love the phrase 'car-lite lifestyle' (I'm stealing that!). Maybe we all need to start advocating cycling, walking and public transport in such a manner, it doesn't diminish the fact that some do need cars but that cars shouldn't be the bee all and end all and that urban design and transportation designed for the cyclist, walker and public transport user is also beneficial to those who need to use cars...less congestion, easier parking etc etc. Going 'car-lite' also suggests that you can be both a cycle user and a car user, they are not mutually exclusive and just because you use a bike it doesn't mean you have to give up your car as a result. Yes! we need to advocate for more 'car-lite lifestyles'!
@coleciervo5454
@coleciervo5454 17 күн бұрын
The Indiana state government needs to get with the program and un-ban light rail and stop meddling in IndyGo's efforts to build BRT. Carmel is good except that there is no transit link to any other city in Indiana.
@RobinRense
@RobinRense 15 күн бұрын
I'm pretty amazed as a Dutchman, it looks really Dutch 👌 Seems like a nice place to be :)
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks 20 күн бұрын
That's crazy that a random suburb that most people have never heard of is way more pedestrian and biking friendly than the larger city.
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 20 күн бұрын
We Hoosiers know Carmel well lol if you move there you made it out the hood lol
@CubeNotFunny
@CubeNotFunny 19 күн бұрын
Us Hoosiers know Carmel well, most towns and cities in Indiana are going to be like this in future.
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 19 күн бұрын
@@CubeNotFunny yea I hope so lol Rochester needs to step their game up 🤣🤣
@isaacanderson5083
@isaacanderson5083 18 күн бұрын
It's not, don't be fooled only the city center is walkable, the city as a whole scores 19/100 on walk score. Not to mention there is zero public transportation
@JoshuaHere
@JoshuaHere 16 күн бұрын
Carmel is pretty well-known as it is the richest city in Indiana. Their behemoth of a high school is also stupendously fancy.
@rajm2626
@rajm2626 21 күн бұрын
One of the few places in the US that doesn't look like actual garbage. One cannot help but notice the abundance of people out and about in your film shots, even though it's clearly not even summer there yet. It turns out that people like a nice built environment.
@davidnicholson6680
@davidnicholson6680 20 күн бұрын
"One of the few places in the US that doesn't look like absolute garbage"? Please. Maybe you need to look around a bit more.
@favoritemyvideo
@favoritemyvideo 20 күн бұрын
@@davidnicholson6680 80% of the US cities has high crime, unemployment, homelessness. Don't you love the internet? Anonymous people can post any fact they want.
@popcorn8153
@popcorn8153 19 күн бұрын
As crappy as urban planning is, I would say that there are plenty of beautiful places in the USA. Maybe not on the west coast though.
@tomodomo1000
@tomodomo1000 18 күн бұрын
@@popcorn8153 Considering how huge the US is, only a few places look so good.
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 18 күн бұрын
The US is 9 million+ square kilometers. It highly unlikely you’ve seen a sufficient amount of that to have a relevant opinion. Plus, your opinion is wholly subjective to your values, which are not universal. Try again.
@Tristan-mc4wm
@Tristan-mc4wm 17 күн бұрын
As a dutchy, looking at the thumbnail I actually thought it was a new neighbourhood somewhere in the Netherlands. Until I read the Title. Honestly really cool!
@coolsoenie
@coolsoenie 16 күн бұрын
I thought exactly the same
@oldbrokenhands
@oldbrokenhands 21 күн бұрын
A quiet, people-centric city in a red state, I can only dream of something like that in Texas.
@yuriydee
@yuriydee 20 күн бұрын
Its always odd how republican leaders are always talking about saving the “main street” yet the way we build suburbs in US is antithetical to that. Building cities like mentioned in the video can absolutely be a conservative talking point (spending taxes wisely duh) yet it isnt.
@iamjoestafford
@iamjoestafford 20 күн бұрын
@@yuriydee Exactly true. The Dutch are not ruled by green environmentalists, but instead by pragmatic right-of-centre conservatives who understand that spending tax money on great planning and public transport leads to economic growth, as well as making places pleasant to live in. I live in the UK, and the contrast is stark - our system means that none of our local leaders could possibly do what they have done in Carmel or The Netherlands, our high streets are all dying, and even Manchester (which has a bit more autonomy) doesn't have the freedom or money to do more than install an occasional bumpy bike path and a few badly designed cyclops junctions. Plus now we even have the government backing up conspiracy theories about low traffic neighbourhoods and lower speed limits...I don't have much hope that things will improve!
@LeafHuntress
@LeafHuntress 20 күн бұрын
I believe Active Towns is located in Texas & they showcase some stuff from that state. It is of course large & it might not be in your neck of the woods.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 19 күн бұрын
@@yuriydee Conservatives: "we believe in markets and property rights!" Person: "So I can replace my house with apartments or a shop?" Conservatives: "No!"
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 18 күн бұрын
@@mindstalkthat’s not a typical conservative viewpoint in the slightest.
@sebzuddas
@sebzuddas 20 күн бұрын
America has so much potential
@Zhiperser
@Zhiperser 18 күн бұрын
America has always had potential. That's why it sucks so much when people give up caring or trying.
@dantem4119
@dantem4119 14 күн бұрын
@@Zhiperseroof that one hurts haha
@johnames6430
@johnames6430 14 күн бұрын
Yes, if all our money was not given to Ukraine/Isra3l imagine would could be
@p.ipebomb
@p.ipebomb 12 күн бұрын
Kinda what makes USA cool. What we lack in ancient Traditions, we make up for, being ever changing 👍
@jackfeldman3916
@jackfeldman3916 21 күн бұрын
It was a pleasure seeing you! I am so glad that you got to come and enjoy this lovely city. With the right vision, even North America can be a walkable environment!
@BicycleDutch
@BicycleDutch 21 күн бұрын
Thanks again! It was surprising to be recognised by you so far from home! Did you also see the blog post? (Link in the description.)
@jackfeldman3916
@jackfeldman3916 21 күн бұрын
@@BicycleDutch I did see the blog post, and when I read the P.S. I got a big smile on my face! Thank you for being so kind and pleasant. Your inspiration, through your videos and personality, has made a huge impact on my life and view of the world! P.S., thank you for the stickers! New bike is on the way, and I can’t wait to put one on!
@davidsprenkle2641
@davidsprenkle2641 21 күн бұрын
Great to see progress here in the U.S. There seems to be growing momentum towards making urban areas less car-centric
@peachezprogramming
@peachezprogramming 21 күн бұрын
No, you're wrong. I've been all over the US and Carmel is literally the only, ONLY one doing nice things.
@geoffreyhoney122
@geoffreyhoney122 21 күн бұрын
@@peachezprogramming Emeryville California Mayor John Bauters would disagree!
@ChristiaanHW
@ChristiaanHW 21 күн бұрын
@@peachezprogramming to be fair change often happens because one place/person/group has the balls to try something new. and after a while other places see how it goes, and if it turns out to be something that's needed/wanted other places will start to copy it. right now most of the US is still stuck in the mindset that what they already have might be best. but more and more people find out that what Carmel has done might actually a better way of living. and when that group becomes big enough to influence other towns/cities in the US this type of urban planning will spread throughout the US. so if you want more places to go into the direction of Carmel, go and share videos like this one with the people around you. and find out who you need to approach in your area to get the (local) politicians in on it. and with time your area could become like Carmel too.
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 20 күн бұрын
@@peachezprogrammingDavis? Boulder?
@superbrownsheep3777
@superbrownsheep3777 20 күн бұрын
@@ChristiaanHWThe thing I’m most curious about is if Carmel will have Actual Public Transportation in the future. The transportation that does exist in Carmel is only reserved for elderly and disabled people. I hope to see public transportation make a return in Carmel in the future
@melalmagro2000
@melalmagro2000 21 күн бұрын
I was thrilled to run into you at the Carmel Library while you were visiting. Wonderful video and perspective on the area my family and I have chosen to call home. Thanks to you, your partner, and @AmericanFietser for spending a few minutes talking to my son and I. I hope you enjoyed your travels to Indiana!
@BicycleDutch
@BicycleDutch 21 күн бұрын
Being approached twice in 24 hours by people who knew our channels was absolutely fantastic! That's why I mention it in the blog post. Thanks for the talk and also the comments here. I hope you and your family can enjoy the car light life in the Carmel area from now on!
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz 21 күн бұрын
I'm actually quite happy to see North American cycling and walking infrastructure done properly, of course with some improvements needed. But the effort is absolutely substantial!. Indiana is definitely taking this effort at heart..
@aceman0000099
@aceman0000099 20 күн бұрын
Indiana as a whole? Or just this city
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz 20 күн бұрын
@@aceman0000099 Is it just this part of the city?
@aceman0000099
@aceman0000099 20 күн бұрын
@@Siranoxz Indiana is a State, quite a big one. Goes from Chicago to Kentucky
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz 20 күн бұрын
@@aceman0000099 My bad.
@isaacanderson5083
@isaacanderson5083 18 күн бұрын
@@Siranoxz Most of Carmel Indiana is standard suburban sprawl. Indiana as a state is horribly car-centric, the state has banned light rail and is trying to ban bus rapid transit
@samenos9086
@samenos9086 16 күн бұрын
as a republican who is also against car dependency and all for cycling and people friendly cities, this is one of my favorite videos! friendly streets/cities and cycling don't have to be political!
@kailahmann1823
@kailahmann1823 21 күн бұрын
Wow, this city looks so extremely far ahead of the usual US or Canadian city - especially from the aspect of mixed use and density.
@mindstalk
@mindstalk 19 күн бұрын
Judging by the building styles, a lot of that mixed use and density is legacy, as in other places...
@ojasdeshmukh3037
@ojasdeshmukh3037 16 күн бұрын
I have to say as a resident most of the city does not look this. Busy 4 lane roads and state road highways still cut through the citu
@cincybengals101
@cincybengals101 15 күн бұрын
@@ojasdeshmukh3037 I live in Downtown Indianapolis and always defend our city above Carmel, mainly because I want to see Indy grow and prosper because we've got a lot of good people trying to get things done. I love Carmel's main city, but yeah, the entire place is still suburban sprawl. Plenty of strip malls, stroads, poor walkability. There's not many walking options from your house to other places outside of your suburban neighborhood.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 21 күн бұрын
Nice to see this. I discovered your channel a few years ago and it was life-changing. I'm learning Dutch and have spent nine weeks there on three visits the last two years. Going for two months this summer. Dreaming of moving there, actually. Ik ben nu een beetja tweetalig, danzij jou.
@joehoe222
@joehoe222 20 күн бұрын
Don't take it too harsh ;-). Beetje*. Happy to be your grinding stone today.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 20 күн бұрын
​@@joehoe222 aaacckk... een fout. Dank u wel.
@atropatene3596
@atropatene3596 20 күн бұрын
Wat gaaf! Daar mag u best trots op zijn, een tweede taal leren is niet niks hoor!
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 20 күн бұрын
@@atropatene3596 Bedankt. Voor mij is het één van mijn hobby's. Meer plezier toen ik bezoek. Ook krijg ik daarvan speciaal behandeling 🙂
@RobinRense
@RobinRense 15 күн бұрын
Haha, ja dat wordt gewaardeerd :)
@jessicamorrisonco
@jessicamorrisonco 16 күн бұрын
As a Realtor and local resident of the Carmel, Indiana area, it is truly a gift to call this place home. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, and visit our community. The feedback is wonderful to hear from your perspective. Was there a favorite restaurant you enjoyed?
@patrickbritting6251
@patrickbritting6251 20 күн бұрын
I grew up in the neighboring suburb to Carmel (Fishers) and the arts district of Carmel was always a place I loved going with my friends, because when you need a cheap activity to do with your friends as a teenager, having a convenient place to get coffee, sit and chat, and go on a walking trail was luxury I didn't fully appreciate at the time. Your video was phenomenal, and I would just like to emphasize two points. One is that walkability and attractiveness in any part of America is heavily correlated with the wealth of that area. Carmel is one of the wealthiest places in Indiana, if not the entire US, and something I noticed as my neighboring suburb grew in both wealth and population was that our commercial areas and city center were developed very similarly to Carmel. So often a lot of less walkable/attractive suburbs just don't have tons of resources to put into that type of development or there's not political will among residents to raise the taxes to do that (Its even a fight in wealthy suburbs, trust me). The other thing I wanted to point out is I've mentioned commercial areas several times because if you live in most residential areas of these suburbs, biking/walking infrastructure is very limited or non-existent leaving most residents with still no other option than to drive (hence the necessity for large parking garages all over the commercial areas). Keep up the good work! Love to see videos like this!
@jasper6073
@jasper6073 20 күн бұрын
Great architecture too; the new building blocks look like the've always been there.
@k.r.t5350
@k.r.t5350 18 күн бұрын
As a dutch man, this city is on to something! There are so many benefits to this, people having a good time and hanging around, the place is not only surviving but thriving! You are making good progress USA ❤
@paulm7826
@paulm7826 20 күн бұрын
Carmel looks terrific. Bravo.
@swtexan6502
@swtexan6502 21 күн бұрын
Hopefully we made a good impression on you. We've lived here for almost 20 years and have seen significant (good) change in the Carmel/Westfield area. When we moved here, you had to stop along the Monon trail at each and every street- which is fun prohibative. And, the areas that Brandon features weren't even here then. Thanks for making the video and safe travels.
@paolagrando5079
@paolagrando5079 20 күн бұрын
Well done Carmel! Well done to the mayor and everybody else involved who has been helping, in one way or another, this transformation. 🎉
@annebraun581
@annebraun581 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. Anne from Berlin.
@hansbraam73
@hansbraam73 20 күн бұрын
I wonder whether the initial plans met fierce restitance. I suppose that the population of Carmel (shopowners included) was initially just as car centric as the population of any other American town. And, if so, how did the mayor overcome this resistance?
@papaya8634
@papaya8634 20 күн бұрын
True, that would be very interesting to know
@txquartz
@txquartz 19 күн бұрын
A lot of it at the beginning was predicated on keeping Carmel property values as high as possible, and to keep a upper class small town feel while modernizing.
@lolololol7573
@lolololol7573 20 күн бұрын
Wow, an investment of 'only' 23 million, and to get this in return? This is fantastic :) It really does look oddly familiar from a Dutch perspective and absolutely like something you'd want to visit. What a success!
@josephwaggener9307
@josephwaggener9307 20 күн бұрын
From Colorado where some of this is just normal infrastructure, I am so impressed with Carmel! What a beautiful area! Great job
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 20 күн бұрын
Boulder needs to step up its game!
@louiszhang3050
@louiszhang3050 18 күн бұрын
Wow, when I looked at the thumbnail I thought it was in the Netherlands or Denmark or Sweden at first. Then I saw that it was INDIANA. Some of the development happening there seems really nice and almost reminiscent of the places you'd show in your home country. Definitely should be a place I visit soon :)
@computerfan1079
@computerfan1079 18 күн бұрын
Fascinating sights. At some points it felt almost dutch, whitch I have never had before with US cities
@rjh00
@rjh00 21 күн бұрын
I think it's really cool that you went to Carmel. As someone that lives in the Netherlands I'm actually somewhat jealous of some of the things that Carmel has done. Because even though I love the bike infrastructure that we have in the Netherlands I do love some of things of American life, like in this video I really like the style of some of the homes shown, which in the Netherlands unless you have a lot of money isn't something you are likely to be able to have. So I think for most places that are still too focused on the car, Carmel is a great example to strive to, that way you get much of the safety, health benefits and better city planning of the Netherlands but still keep much of "American" life. If I could pick, I would honestly pick the Carmel way over the Dutch way, though obviously with some improvements in the Carmel way. Like for example, I don't know how good their public transport is. I would need bus and especially train connection to be as good as it is in the Netherlands.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 21 күн бұрын
I live near San Diego and have lived in a lot of the US. Recently discovered the Netherlands (multiple visits now) and love it there. I don't know Carmel specifically, but mass transit here is VERY bad compared to the Netherlands. There's much less coverage both geographically and schedule. Plus, here, it's mostly people who can't afford car travel that you'll find on mass transit, so even though I like it, the crowd you end up associating with is often fairly sketchy (not all of them, but percentage-wise yes). In the Netherlands almost everyone rides transit, so the ratio of sketchy people is a lot less. That and the lack of coverage makes mass transit a difficult proposition here. It works in a few places, but you'd have to research it carefully. In the Netherlands you can hop on a train in your small town and step off underneath the airport at Schiphol. In San Diego or Los Angeles that's not remotely possible. It's an expensive, time-consuming nightmare. Seems I've spent half my life sitting in traffic waiting to turn left at intersections. In the Netherlands I happily go an entire month without getting in a car:-) Think long and hard before you give up what you have to come here :-)
@rjh00
@rjh00 21 күн бұрын
@@jefflastofka9289 Oh yes, I know that generally public transport in the us is bad or none existent, I just don't know if Carmel is the same or the mayor and the government there has done anything to improve public transport there. Public transport in the US unless it's in some very specific locations (like NYC) is just for the poor and desperate, unlike in the Netherlands (and many places in Europe, Asia and South America.) where it's for anyone and everyone.
@jefflastofka9289
@jefflastofka9289 21 күн бұрын
@@rjh00 Yes, it's a difficult proposition here even for well-meaning officials who want to do the right thing. Getting support up front to build the infrastructure to hopefully have ridership later is a tough sell. Americans are SO addicted to cars. We are getting more and more things like this popping up here and there, however. It's going to take a LONG time before it's wide-spread, but there's hope in the denser-populated areas I suppose.
@JosiahKeller
@JosiahKeller 21 күн бұрын
Carmel has no public transit whatsoever. To get to Indianapolis you have to either drive, or bike 5-10 miles to get to a bus stop across the county line.
@millevenon5853
@millevenon5853 21 күн бұрын
America is big so you can find suburbs with big homes under 200k especially in middle America.
@thndr_5468
@thndr_5468 7 күн бұрын
That mayor is doing an incredible job by transforming his city into a shining example. Props to him!
@picakiaak
@picakiaak 13 күн бұрын
Nice job Americano's! Notice that the electrical cables are almost everywhere burried under ground what makes a huge different to me. Keep up the good work!
@MarkDDG
@MarkDDG 20 күн бұрын
Let’s hope a lot more places get inspired by Carmel!
@ahoog69
@ahoog69 16 күн бұрын
I hope other municipalities see and learn from this excellent presentation. Living in Burbank, CA, we could certainly benefit from this type of infrastructure. There are quite a few projects underway here, and some of them do include cycling infrastructure.
@robrusman2511
@robrusman2511 21 күн бұрын
i honestly believe the political divide in the US will be closed by a mutual love of human-first urban development
@charlienyc1
@charlienyc1 19 күн бұрын
It could be. While I'm an optimist, it's hard to hold out hope for something that would be so good for everyone just based on past decisions and politics.
@jg-7780
@jg-7780 20 күн бұрын
I'd love to visit Carmel some day, it seems like a fascinating city. It's just a shame that for all the incredible progress they've made on the pedestrian and cycling fronts, they still have no public transit whatsoever except for a dial-a-ride that must be reserved 24hrs in advance.
@carmelmuprider825
@carmelmuprider825 19 күн бұрын
Glad you made it to Carmel. I moved here in 2006 when we only had a handful of roundabouts and very limited bike paths. While the Monon gets a lot of the attention, it represents only 5.2 miles of the over 200 miles of trails. Every year more trails are being built and our ability to get to a variety of amenities is also growing. I hope you enjoyed your time here and thanks for sharing your thoughts on our city. Keep up the great work you do.
@lkruijsw
@lkruijsw 20 күн бұрын
1:37, a sign also containing 'km'? How did that happen?
@rnor3146
@rnor3146 20 күн бұрын
.....🤍💛🧡❤💜💙!!!! Hello!😉 Beautiful video, as usual, and beautiful report. This city is an advanced one, and many should take example on it. Have a great continuation and see you. 😉👍👍👍👌
@dannyjarratt5414
@dannyjarratt5414 20 күн бұрын
This is so calming and comforting. Great little video
@andyvoss1149
@andyvoss1149 18 күн бұрын
I heard about this city in the news regarding their roundabouts. I didn't know good multi-modal infrastructure was also available. I enjoyed the eclipse in a nearby town also near Indianapolis. I hope Carmel inspires more North American towns that it can be done - even if they are small in comparison to other big cities.
@aul0s
@aul0s 20 күн бұрын
Absolutely inspiring
@paolagrando5079
@paolagrando5079 20 күн бұрын
If you want more details check the blog (the link is in the description 📦). You'll find great stuff like the fact that at the first round about the population was at just 25,000people. The good development must have made a good impression on people who decided to move there. Again, my compliments to the mayor 💜
@marcelmoulin3335
@marcelmoulin3335 20 күн бұрын
"Bravo!" to all those responsible for creating such a vibrant, attractive, memorable, and cycle-/pedestrian-friendly environment. What a joy! (Is this really in the US?!) I am watching from the Netherlands.
@DinoCon
@DinoCon 18 күн бұрын
If I were a film or television studio, I would absolutely film there.
@AssBlasster
@AssBlasster 20 күн бұрын
It's kind of wild how they put so much effort into their urbanism and road design, yet don't run a bus system in this pretty large city with more surrounding smaller towns. I was looking into the realities of moving here without a car and still looks decent if you don't mind biking long distances. It's 7-10 miles down the Monon Trail before you encounter a bus in the Indianapolis metro area. You can even bike 25 miles to downtown Indianapolis on the trail.
@mysteriousMatchStick
@mysteriousMatchStick 20 күн бұрын
Such a surprise to see this in Indiana. Hope they keep it going.
@Kuijpermedia
@Kuijpermedia 19 күн бұрын
Amazing video well done 👍 short and to the point
@fritsz8087
@fritsz8087 17 күн бұрын
Goed zo. Nu de rest van America nog. Goed voor jullie gezondheid. 👍
@ItsCharlieVest
@ItsCharlieVest 13 күн бұрын
Very cool. I live an hour away from Carmel and never knew anything about it before. Now I want to go check it out!
@anthonydpearson
@anthonydpearson 18 күн бұрын
Gorgeous! Reading the history of Mayor Brainard is great, and seems the sort of leader we could use in more communities. Believes in using experts, good urban design, civil rights and diversity, and also believes in doing so in a way that you're not bankrupting future generations.
@spaghettojesusinc
@spaghettojesusinc 17 күн бұрын
Have you seen cycling infrastructure in Ljubljana and Slovenia? It looks as if the whole country has loads of protected intersections and protected lanes. Could you possibly do a video on the cycling infrastructure there someday?
@Zhiperser
@Zhiperser 18 күн бұрын
There are lots of nice rich suburbs in America. This is one of them. I'd love to see it be implemented in an affordable city.
@shivtim
@shivtim 18 күн бұрын
Chicago.
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 20 күн бұрын
Lived in Carmel last year Indiana native here, rented an apartment with a buddy of mine and loved it there
@Maebbie
@Maebbie 17 күн бұрын
this is amazing that a city like this can be in the usa, only the street signs give a hint it is.
@insertyourquarters
@insertyourquarters 13 күн бұрын
This is wonderful!
@Carsten_Diekmann
@Carsten_Diekmann 20 күн бұрын
A great video. I like the part that highlights how the Monon has become the crystallization core for successful urban growth in generell. I was a real estate developer. The access to cycling infrastructure is such an important point that I now only doing cycling stuff … 🤓 Greatings to Mrs. and Mr. @AmericanFietser
@txquartz
@txquartz 19 күн бұрын
Be honest then, it also probably came with a big TIFF or other tax breaks. It's not just "there's a trail here", it's the city saying "build buy the trail and we'll make it worth your while"
@annabelholland
@annabelholland 16 күн бұрын
Carmel is the new Milton Keynes. The UK city (which officially attained that status in 2022) with almost no traffic lights. I live near Keynes to the point I practiced roundabouts there for my driving.
@alexgria
@alexgria 15 күн бұрын
i am glad you enjoyed our small but special city!
@richardavsmith
@richardavsmith 19 күн бұрын
I liked Carmel as a place when visiting a friend there, but actually getting to/from there without a car, especially from Indianapolis, was nigh on impossible. It still felt very car centric as a result
@Pan472
@Pan472 19 күн бұрын
It'd be interesting to see you cycle (or rather, attempt it) in Athens, Greece. Actually, from Greece, you should visit the city of Karditsa, it's a city in which almost everyone cycles to go around everywhere.
@ClayShentrup
@ClayShentrup 18 күн бұрын
ha, I was just here while visiting Indianapolis for the eclipse. And I'm currently writing this from the airport in Amsterdam. let me tell you that Carmel is like three blocks of sort of semi-dutch development. a tiny little drop in a pool of sprawling hell.
@user-gx1rk8yw6l
@user-gx1rk8yw6l 21 күн бұрын
Interesting video-title! *Initially* I understood it as viewing the USA's state of Indiana from a Dutch perspective via bicycling in a town called Carmel (that is located in the USA's state of California, so far as *I* knew). A few re-reads were required for the USA-er's penchant for writing "town *,* state" to come to the surface, thus giving the sentence a totally different meaning. Oh well... US-English is NOT like UK-English... Anyway, for me a very significant difference between the Dutch view of traffic versus that of many other countries is the wide-openness of pathways for bicycles & pedestrians versus the restrictively-designed pathways for cars (literal & visual narrowing by trees right-beside the asphalt). In areas where people abound, the car is in NO way the "king", but a GUEST.
@sebastianjoseph2828
@sebastianjoseph2828 20 күн бұрын
Nice video. I wonder, when you were in the US did you get a chance to visit any other cities to look at bike infrastructure there? I hope you have a chance to visit Washington DC one day. It's not Dutch-standard, but there has been quite a lot of progress in the last 5 years on getting bike lanes (especially protected lanes) installed in much of the core of the city. The city has a generously cheap and widespread bike share program called CaBi. You can take bikes on the metrorail system. There are many trails like the MBT, Capital Crescent, and Anacostia Trail to get you further out into the city and surrounding areas, and many have bike amenities, local restaurants, residences and such nearby. It's not perfect- we are fighting hard to get bike lanes put on some major roads that really need it. But I'd say DC is the most comfortable major US city to bike in.
@cycleistic1365
@cycleistic1365 21 күн бұрын
If only the rest of the US would follow this example, rather than the opposite. That would send a great signal to the rest of the world even, where car centricism prevails.
@mesoed
@mesoed 20 күн бұрын
Well, it helps that Carmel is one of the richest communities in the US.
@cycleistic1365
@cycleistic1365 18 күн бұрын
@@mesoed No doubt _it takes change to make change,_ and yet, car centric infra is known to be often economically net negative, streets, roads and parking lots aren't cheap to build or maintain, plus all the adverse effects that it brings along. There are good sources that explain how car infrastructure actually contributes to communal poverty: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m8-fZcSLx8XNmas.htmlsi=fxDnF_nTf-3fEmSX kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9dmYNGqxJ-2mas.htmlsi=o6YKw7AKNLfZbcBE kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etldqZVe1t-nk2w.htmlsi=e8vJz0J51adBJua-
@user6122
@user6122 18 күн бұрын
Anyone really shocked about how Indiana of all places got something like this, look up the distribution of salary or house costs for the suburb then you'll understand lol.
@ChicaFoo
@ChicaFoo 20 күн бұрын
I wish the rest of the us was like this
@SledgeOfHouseHammer
@SledgeOfHouseHammer 21 күн бұрын
Awww yes BD in USA.
@denizwesley3227
@denizwesley3227 18 күн бұрын
Pretty little town!
@Jerbod2
@Jerbod2 20 күн бұрын
Woah that looks worthy of the Dutch!
@Rik-rj3pu
@Rik-rj3pu 20 күн бұрын
As a Dutch person I’m very happy to see an American city slowly turning in to a better city for its citizens! 😄
@rodrigosouto9502
@rodrigosouto9502 20 күн бұрын
Holly God, is this really the USA? Amazing city!
@mcc.o.4835
@mcc.o.4835 19 күн бұрын
Brillant!! Well done Carmel Indiana.. 👏😀
@starbase218
@starbase218 19 күн бұрын
I am amazed. This is in the USA but I’m getting strong Dutch vibes. Thanks for saying it does not have to be political. I think that’s exactly the tone we need.
@driewiel
@driewiel 20 күн бұрын
Should be called Bikemel.
@danmcclaren5436
@danmcclaren5436 13 күн бұрын
hopefully Carmel goes viral and everyone start moving there. The first american Paris
@Imgithiomi
@Imgithiomi 19 күн бұрын
Roundabout driving rule is simple: Give way to cars driving from your left
@an_der4856
@an_der4856 20 күн бұрын
cidade linda! - Brasil, São Paulo
@Catssonova
@Catssonova 20 күн бұрын
Really nice. But it's also outside of the income range of the vast majority of people in Indiana and the midwest. It's a nice model, but I don't see this working in many midwest American towns on the same growth methodology and certainly not the same speed. Worth taking inspiration from regardless
@Catssonova
@Catssonova 20 күн бұрын
$1000+ for a studio near any of the places shown it seems. Really a bummer.
@lkruijsw
@lkruijsw 20 күн бұрын
The high price is because it is desired, not because it is expensive to build. To the contrary.
@darkrai6010
@darkrai6010 9 күн бұрын
Carmel still has an issue with basically 0 public transit coverage but i have hope that it'll be sought out in the very near future
@joetrey215
@joetrey215 8 күн бұрын
Like most of the US, Carmel does have restricted-use public transit though as seen at 4:10 in the video.
@marknieuweboer8099
@marknieuweboer8099 7 күн бұрын
@ Joe: still for someone like me, who doesn't even have a driver's licence, that makes the city unlivable.
@MattZaycYT
@MattZaycYT 12 күн бұрын
So pretty and so pleasant! Carmel did the right thing.
@patypami16
@patypami16 20 күн бұрын
Looks really nice, but is there any kind of public transportation?
@charlienyc1
@charlienyc1 19 күн бұрын
I've read enough of the comments section to know there is little to none. It's very different from the Netherlands in that respect.
@jayandreas1131
@jayandreas1131 20 күн бұрын
Very Europey vibe. Looks great.
@steiner554
@steiner554 18 күн бұрын
I've never seen the USA like this. Only thing that I want to point out is the fact that the pedestrians on the cycle lane should walk against the flow of traffic so they don't get hit from behind. Seeing traffic coming towards you affords you the option to step out of the way if needed. Seeing traffic coming behind you requires major surgery to get your eyes moved to the back of the head 😂
@something-hs1ui
@something-hs1ui 19 күн бұрын
I want this guy to plan my city
@Ka-ly8oi
@Ka-ly8oi 20 күн бұрын
Wow!
@MyCamilla1989
@MyCamilla1989 15 күн бұрын
This video is a clear evidence how traveling the world expands your horizons. The mayor had the privilege to study abroad and he utilized this privilege to serve his nation in the best way possible, regardless of his political stance. Well done.
@elicarlson7682
@elicarlson7682 17 күн бұрын
0:55 actually it’s the most in the world!
@PeterSdrolias
@PeterSdrolias 13 күн бұрын
The things you can do with vision and hard work.
@puffpuffin1
@puffpuffin1 20 күн бұрын
It looks like Carmel is a new city with lots of areas redeveloping with new streets, roads, buildings etc. Not every city has that luxury. Let's look at Google Maps. Oh. Deceived again. This is only a small part of Carmel. Maybe a few places beyond the Monom Trail, but otherwise, still a typical suburb but with lots of roundabouts. Oh, and freeways run through and around the city too, so that will give urbanists nightmares. LOL.
@soccermania49
@soccermania49 20 күн бұрын
Carmel is not a perfect place, but I also wouldn't agree that it's just like all other suburbs. There are lots of smooth paths alongside the streets, which makes cycling places way easier than in most US suburbs. I now live near downtown in an actual city in Indiana in a neighborhood built in the 1920s and it is way less walkable than when we lived in an apartment in Carmel.
@lkruijsw
@lkruijsw 20 күн бұрын
You have to start somewhere. And it is not a luxury, it is cheaper. Building the traditional suburb is expensive.
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 20 күн бұрын
1:06 lol use to take that way to work did you pass “sauce on the side” while you were there?
@bircruz555
@bircruz555 14 күн бұрын
Good to see progressive developments in Carmel, IN. I stayed at the Residence INN in Carmel for over six months in the mid-1990s as a contractor to a Fortune 500 company there. Two things I found unappealing about the place then. First, the population was monochrome, and quite parochial. Having come from the West, it was not always comfortable. Second, I had to drive everywhere. I am a walker, and I love cities that are designed to be conducive to walking. Carmel had no sidewalks. This is a pleasant change, and it can only be good for the health of the people, who were on the average overweight or obese.
@MrHorse-by3mp
@MrHorse-by3mp 6 күн бұрын
That's Indiana? Somehow I was expecting something more, neglected say, in places maybe bordering on squalid. I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised.
@youtube1e2r3t
@youtube1e2r3t 20 күн бұрын
VIDEO IDEE: Hey, ik had laatst wellicht een leuk idee voor je om een video over te maken. In Amsterdam goed zichtbaar, maar ook zeker in de fietscultuur in andere steden, is het idee dat de persoon met momentum voorrang krijgt, soort hidden culture. Om een voorbeeld te geven, een Nederlandse voetganger ziet een fietser aankomen en zou nog wel voor kunnen gaan over het zebrapad omdat men voorrang heeft, toch doet men dit niet omdat de fietser anders moet afremmen of stoppen. Het zijn de kleine dingen die het leuk maken denk ik!
@atropatene3596
@atropatene3596 20 күн бұрын
Wat een goed idee! Ik denk daar niet eens over na. Maar nu je het zegt, inderdaad!
@lkruijsw
@lkruijsw 20 күн бұрын
Klopt. Als automobilist moet je ook geen fietser nog voorrang geven als die al stil staat. Dat is als fietser alleen maar irritant, want dan ben je al gestopt en moet je opeens veel kracht geven.
@johnames6430
@johnames6430 14 күн бұрын
That mayor guy has done a great job, you should see their High School
@bromonicide1632
@bromonicide1632 20 күн бұрын
@aj.m7413
@aj.m7413 13 күн бұрын
I'm from fishers right by carmel and carmel is pretty cool but so is fishers!
@theJohnnyPinball
@theJohnnyPinball 19 күн бұрын
Way to go Carmel
@joetrey215
@joetrey215 8 күн бұрын
Important considerations: In 2023, Carmel was the most expensive city to live in in Indiana. The median family income in 2021 was just under $120,000. "In 2021, the median property value in Carmel, IN was $372,100, and the homeownership rate was 75.3%. Most people in Carmel, IN drove alone to work, and the average commute time was 25 minutes. The average car ownership in Carmel, IN was 2 cars per household." The percent black population in 2021 was 2.7% of the total.
@thastayapongsak4422
@thastayapongsak4422 18 күн бұрын
It is political though. It's a choice between improving people's material quality of life, and pointless culture war. Carmel's republican leader decided to pursue the first, actually improving people's lives, instead of slapping the label woke on everything including bike paths, 15-minute cities, walkable cities, etc.
@Jose-sy1je
@Jose-sy1je 18 күн бұрын
I never understand why cities can't be designed more bike friendly in the US. States like Texas have been growing massively. Their cities are even less bike and pedestrian friendly than older ones. They should have focused on good transportation such as high speed trains, subways, skytrains, etc and making cities walkable. It would bring more life to cities. But it's just not possible here.
@dainiusm5436
@dainiusm5436 19 күн бұрын
🚴🚴🚴
@danieldougan269
@danieldougan269 15 күн бұрын
I live on the north end of Indianapolis and go into Carmel regularly. The planning is impeccable. Unfortunately, it has become a playground for the rich. Every place in America should be planned this well, but Brainard was able to do it without a lot of resistance partly because there was so much money there. Businesses would jump through every hoop just to have access to such wealthy customers. Meanwhile, in the city, our tax base has eroded as people with means flee to suburbs. And, let's not forget, for all its excellent planning for pedestrians and bicycles, Carmel has exactly zero public transit. Not even one bus route. They have a shuttle service for disabled people, but that's all.
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