Cycling's Toxic Diet Culture is Worse Than You Think | Dan Martin

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23 күн бұрын

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@Veroweithofer
@Veroweithofer 15 күн бұрын
Men with eating disorders is still a huge taboo
@fanda6122
@fanda6122 14 күн бұрын
it's not at all the same as with females, wrestlers and cyclists cut weight for performance gains thats much different than a psychological obsession with one's appearance. it's about power to weight nothing will ever change that.
@oceane6018
@oceane6018 15 сағат бұрын
@@fanda6122it can still be an eating disorder regardless of the motivation, ie ARFID
@biobauer8
@biobauer8 7 күн бұрын
Seeing Abrahamsen get on the podium on the first tour de france stage got me thinking different about my weight. He is 78kg at 183cm and is a beast in the hills. The commentators said he tried dieting but got always ill on a low weight. With more mass he seems to perform better. At the end of the day it comes down to how good efficient your engine, body and mind works together. Speaking from a total amateurs perspective though. This gives me confidence, even for my lack of discipline when it comes to eating LOL
@martinam7806
@martinam7806 6 күн бұрын
It was the same for Sagan. By these standards he was a bit “heavy” for the sport (which is not hard when you see how skinny these men are)and yet it was what made him a strong opponent and winner 💪 he got stamina and good muscle strength.
@breitemasse
@breitemasse 3 күн бұрын
@@biobauer8 good point, glad you say that. its show that every human is different
@Roscoe789
@Roscoe789 15 күн бұрын
"It's much better to be lean than winning" 3:56 What a sad and pervasive attitude in cycling and many other sports :(
@nxtxlieclaire
@nxtxlieclaire 4 күн бұрын
Its the culture of 'looking the part' which is the absolute worst
@alwaysglamorous8941
@alwaysglamorous8941 19 күн бұрын
Tyler Hamilton talking about pretending to eat pasta at a party and spitting it into a napkin
@jax02zerotwo
@jax02zerotwo 15 күн бұрын
Wow is this true? Not that I don't believe it, but.. that's next level.
@alwaysglamorous8941
@alwaysglamorous8941 15 күн бұрын
@@jax02zerotwo kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a6l9l9yAq821dIU.htmlsi=uuLdXqJK0DqGHDBn
@mattlogan1
@mattlogan1 15 күн бұрын
He also talked about eating celery soup
@tom_sorrell
@tom_sorrell 8 күн бұрын
And sparkling water to feel 'full'
@funkyrodent66
@funkyrodent66 7 күн бұрын
⁠”I knew i was on weight when the sleeves of my skin tight lycra jersey would flap in the wind”
@cosmicrancher2169
@cosmicrancher2169 6 күн бұрын
Allie Ostrander, the prodigy distance runner had an eating disorder and has documented her recovery and trip to the Olympic trials.
@dreamjackson5483
@dreamjackson5483 2 күн бұрын
Respect to Dan Martin. One of the tropes of life I like is, find what works for you
@Shelleysnail
@Shelleysnail 19 күн бұрын
Interesting stuff. Thank you for this. I’m currently following a US track athlete who has managed to heal from an ED and even though she is heavier she is posting better and better times.
@christopheroliver148
@christopheroliver148 17 күн бұрын
Allie Ostrander by chance? I've been watching her videos too; she is so inspirational. I think there are more than a few girls, women, and their trainers in ballet and the aesthetic sports (e.g. rhythmic gymnastics and figure skating) that need to hear her message. Fuel and nutrients are f'in important especially for developing youngsters.
@Shelleysnail
@Shelleysnail 17 күн бұрын
Yes, it is Allie. EDs are starting to get everywhere, in many sports, in some artistic careers like ballet. Even among the men.
@janemf
@janemf 14 күн бұрын
@@Shelleysnailno. not “starting to get everywhere.” they’ve always been here. only now people are talking about it.
@Shelleysnail
@Shelleysnail 14 күн бұрын
@@janemf point taken.
@-es2bf
@-es2bf 11 күн бұрын
True her videos are good, but she is still half a minute from the top in a 9 minute race, that's 5-6% slower, that's 20-25min on a 7 hour race. That is the difference between winning and finishing way down in say Paris Roubaix. Look at the body shape of the women winning the races and Allie being 5-6% slower. You can't deny the truth.
@Cycle.every.day.
@Cycle.every.day. 14 күн бұрын
When i reached 40 , i said to myself "ok,i'm probably always going to have a bit of a belly from now on" and as long as it doesn't get more than just a slight spare tyre i've settled with that hard truth.
@hb7030
@hb7030 8 күн бұрын
I don't think that's a hard truth at all.
@breitemasse
@breitemasse 8 күн бұрын
good topic. its a big issue but i think there is hope. nutritionists getting better and better.
@Phlakaton88
@Phlakaton88 10 күн бұрын
Wrestling was evil when I was obsessed with weigh ins. Cycling is far worse. Far far worse.
@82vitt
@82vitt 2 күн бұрын
Ski jumpers and horse racing jockeys, almost everyone suffers from anorexia or bulimia. Sven Hannavald looked like a Holocaust victim when he at the peak of his career.
@MrDominicharrison
@MrDominicharrison 12 күн бұрын
Interesting what Dan says coz he always looked underweight like Roman Bardet
@Sills71
@Sills71 20 күн бұрын
It is sick how racers look today.... Froome looked like he was recently released from a concentration camp. Riders have NOT just reduced their body fat (Lemond talked about this on this podcast, he raced at 4% body fat, and you can't be much lower than that, and he looked like a bodybuilder compared to racers today) they are shedding muscle. I suspect that this is aided by pharma help, it is not natural.
@bg147
@bg147 20 күн бұрын
Yea. It is definitely not a healthy way to live. I also think about the offensive linemen in the NFL who weigh 330 lbs. Being super thin or super heavy is unnatural.
@FastRider69
@FastRider69 19 күн бұрын
not everyone the young guys metabolism not change yet i know the guy he's 1,85m at 60kg and he is clean
@dickieblench5001
@dickieblench5001 19 күн бұрын
Kenacort
@scorchedearthdj
@scorchedearthdj 18 күн бұрын
jonas looks scary at the tour
@Sweetskis
@Sweetskis 18 күн бұрын
They have to shed all their upper body muscle to increase watts per kilo.
@felixjackson2670
@felixjackson2670 19 күн бұрын
Good stuff.
@AlexOsh
@AlexOsh 15 күн бұрын
Interesting on the massage!!
@josemanuelvalverde9342
@josemanuelvalverde9342 14 күн бұрын
What if UCI doesn't allow riders compete below a given fat % ?
@kaspershaupt
@kaspershaupt 7 күн бұрын
good idea on paper but impossible in practice. the only reliable scan is a dexa and getting 150+ riders through would be a lot
@josemanuelvalverde9342
@josemanuelvalverde9342 6 күн бұрын
@@kaspershaupt isn't that easier than anti doping controls or bikes x-ray scans? I'd argue it's even more important for the health of the sport
@joelapointe771
@joelapointe771 4 күн бұрын
Unenforcable.
@thru_and_thru
@thru_and_thru 17 күн бұрын
What I don’t understand is how do these riders train so hard and race even harder without absolute loading up on fuel? Or do they just carb load for races but generally eat a lower amount of calories day to day? I guess these team coaches have it down to a science.
@gweflj
@gweflj 15 күн бұрын
They don’t train hard. When they’re losing weight early season they’re doing zone 2 max.
@roadcyclist1
@roadcyclist1 15 күн бұрын
​@@gwefljno. They are still doing intervals and sustained threshold efforts early season. Do some research before guessing.
@thegrangephilosophydepartm3799
@thegrangephilosophydepartm3799 15 күн бұрын
These days, they are also pushing to eat 100g of carbs/hour during races
@MrDominicharrison
@MrDominicharrison 12 күн бұрын
Metabolic maths
@nathanielsnyder1511
@nathanielsnyder1511 11 күн бұрын
PED's help suppress appetite a lot. Don't get it wrong the guys at the top are utilizing substances like Testosterone and EPO. They also use amphetamines like adderall and methylphenidate to curb appetite. End of the day its all about your power to weight ratio.
@FakeNewsAlert
@FakeNewsAlert 5 күн бұрын
Not unexpected. I remember coming across a stat that 25% of athletes that participate in sports that have weight classes, or require you to play around with your weight, end up with an eating disorder
@a1white
@a1white 11 күн бұрын
This is where the UCI need to step in. We have minimum bike weights, what about minimum cyclist weights, based on your height and BMI?
@frankgallagher5786
@frankgallagher5786 Күн бұрын
Get real.
@BodyByBrandt
@BodyByBrandt 13 күн бұрын
message causes more trauma /inflammation to the muscle after a hard ride/race delaying recovery. proper nutrition is key , smart of him to pick up on this.
@utube7930
@utube7930 17 күн бұрын
McDonald's and foot rub please
@bb-r5710
@bb-r5710 14 күн бұрын
@alwaysglamorous8941
@alwaysglamorous8941 15 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a6l9l9yAq821dIU.htmlsi=uuLdXqJK0DqGHDBn clip from 7 years ago from Tyler Hamilton and his eating disorder. He tried to fill up with Diet Coke so he wouldn’t eat
@n0twist1
@n0twist1 15 күн бұрын
4:42
@the.communist
@the.communist 14 күн бұрын
Im a vegan, i stuff my face woth food, i dont train much and im as skinny as those guys or even more
@Phlakaton88
@Phlakaton88 10 күн бұрын
How’s your gut? Digestion? You must spend a lot of money eating all day.
@lfk53
@lfk53 6 күн бұрын
Because you are malnourished.
@TirnanHealy
@TirnanHealy 5 күн бұрын
What do you fill up on? Rice, pasta, potatoes, fruit etc?
@joehart3826
@joehart3826 15 күн бұрын
Should be titled why massage makes you sick
@baconlatte
@baconlatte 14 күн бұрын
Everything about bike racing is toxic. Raging sugar/carb addiction. All those synthetic gels and drinks. Not enough meat and fat in the diet. The training and racing is highly stressful and accelerates aging.
@Phlakaton88
@Phlakaton88 10 күн бұрын
Carnivore has been saving my life. Stopped a big handful of prescriptions. Improved blood pressure. Insulin resistance gone. Inflammation gone.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 8 күн бұрын
Lol, sure. People race bikes because they're addicted to sugar. Muppet.
@brunospasta
@brunospasta 7 күн бұрын
Clearly you have never competed in competitive endurance sport. You dont need much meat and fat in your diet. Carbs, carbs, carbs is where its at. Training and racing is stressful on mind and body, its not healthy, thats for sure.
@olivierletellier8280
@olivierletellier8280 7 күн бұрын
​@@brunospastaneed protein to repare the damage tissue no ? I guess a balance diet with à lot of carbs is the best
@baconlatte
@baconlatte 7 күн бұрын
​@@brunospasta I road raced for 12 years. And did a lot of running. Humans need meat and fat for basic nutrition. It's what we ate for most of history. Crowding this out with carbs to support training means sacrificing long term health. Also unless you've tried being a fat-based endurance athlete, you dont know to what extent the carbs are actually needed.
@CapeCodPhilip
@CapeCodPhilip 13 күн бұрын
Fat is fuel, on the body or off.
@dinhomashele7203
@dinhomashele7203 8 күн бұрын
Sugar is fuel
@olivierletellier8280
@olivierletellier8280 7 күн бұрын
​@@dinhomashele7203 when Theres no sugar left, fat becomes fuel.
@stephenjhughes64stephenjhu26
@stephenjhughes64stephenjhu26 13 күн бұрын
I notice he often stammners and stops .. has to think what to say incase gives anything away
@joehart3826
@joehart3826 15 күн бұрын
Keto?
@tvsa7
@tvsa7 15 күн бұрын
keto what, that shit sucks
@Phlakaton88
@Phlakaton88 10 күн бұрын
@@tvsa7I’ll raise you carnivore and all my health improvements. Whatever. My blood work doesn’t lie.
@sexydictator3241
@sexydictator3241 7 күн бұрын
​@tvsa7 it really does, especially if you're an endurance athlete, I imagine.
@saulgood6909
@saulgood6909 15 күн бұрын
I think Dan left cycling becasue of the weight issue and becasue of the lack of PED's making up the margin. Then the level you had to be at to compete. It didn't seem healthy.
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