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Czerny Technical Studies - How To? Which One? | Op.299, 599, 740, 849, 823, 636, 261, 821 & 139

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Күн бұрын

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@marcorval
@marcorval 11 ай бұрын
Op. 364, Op. 348, the Sonata No. 10, Op. 692, Op. 754, and Op. 756 are Czerny studies which are almost never played yet considerably more musical than Op. 299, Op. 740, Op. 636, etc.
@pianoinneverland4001
@pianoinneverland4001 2 жыл бұрын
I was always confused about the various versions of Czerny, very helpful video! Thanks!
@juliannadoyle8976
@juliannadoyle8976 Жыл бұрын
You have put Czerny in perspective. This has been invaluable to me as you explained how Czernys books progress. It has given me an understanding how Czerny has designed his books so l have an understanding of Czernys method so l can work at my level and at my own pace. Thank you for your invaluable help explaining the order of these books. Very much appreciated.
@patrickadunn
@patrickadunn 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video! I really like op 777 for early intermediate level, and it only has 24 exercises so it's not overwhelming. Because you didn't already have enough Czerny opus numbers. :)
@ezandman6804
@ezandman6804 Жыл бұрын
Cool you mention 777. I also have the 777book and can play all 24. It was my introduction to Czerny. I continued now with the Germer book. You can play 777? And if so with which other opus you continued? PS: Opus777 is not well known I think. greets :-)
@SteveEverson
@SteveEverson Жыл бұрын
This really helps clear up the decision on which Czerny book to use. I have the 599 and will get the 849 next. Thank-you.
@gretareinarsson7461
@gretareinarsson7461 Жыл бұрын
I take Czerny “session” from time to time but generally think it’s best to have a varied styles of music from different periods to keep musicality and technique in shape.
@epargnepension2262
@epargnepension2262 Жыл бұрын
Really a great video, i'm a motivated 31yo adult beginner since 1 year, so around grade 3 , starting my way to grade 4, and i was frustrated to always being 10-15 bpm below the true tempo of pieces, my fingers were just not enough trained or fast, and i know i need some true practice, like a sportsman. I was lost between Hanon, Czerny,etc. but thanks to you i have a great view of the path i must take, i'll build a good basis for fingers strength with Hanon then i'll swap to Czerny to velocity, dexterity because it looks far more enjoyable.
@aderbalsoares1988
@aderbalsoares1988 7 ай бұрын
IMO, a pianist could play the complete op. 740 during the course of, say, 10 years. The same thing holds true for Bach's WTC. A pianist would profit a lot from playing the 48 in 20 years' time. Never hurrying helps a lot.
@JohnMcGFrance
@JohnMcGFrance 2 жыл бұрын
Useful summary. Thank you.
@pianotips2623
@pianotips2623 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, thanks for asking. I just checked and your message ended up in spam for some reason. I just sent you a reply. Thanks, Stefan
@cxyeh2309
@cxyeh2309 6 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for this video…it is very informative
@wsp912
@wsp912 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the advice!
@hitoall123
@hitoall123 2 ай бұрын
The original German title of the school of velocity is ‘Die Schule der Geläufigkeit’, where ‘Geläufigkeit’ stands for fluency and dexterity, but definitely not for speed. According to the title, you should achieve ease and elegance here, not necessarily velocity, you don't have to hurt your fingers to achieve incredible speed, no one cares!
@PianoDome
@PianoDome 22 күн бұрын
Very important and underrated comment.
@hitoall123
@hitoall123 21 күн бұрын
@@PianoDome thank you!
@qazsedcft2162
@qazsedcft2162 11 ай бұрын
I really like op. 821 precisely because they are short and to the point. I don't want to waste time learning 3 pages of the same pattern when I want to focus on a specific problem.
@stephenvinson6474
@stephenvinson6474 5 ай бұрын
too words...Remain SANE ....common sense.....as you said if you can't play evenly at a fast tempo...slow it down to a speed at which you can ..and work toward a faster tempo...makes sense!! ..Thank you for putting it in order!!
@canman5060
@canman5060 Жыл бұрын
Op 365 is a ultimate challenge !
@marcorval
@marcorval 11 ай бұрын
It is but is quite unmusical in my opinion. The Gradus ad Parnassum and Op. 692/Op. 756 are far more interesting.
@lynn_anderson2
@lynn_anderson2 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video! Thank you!
@user-ng7hz7ow6s
@user-ng7hz7ow6s 4 ай бұрын
Will check these out today. Thank you for tips on which ones to practice as a hobby pianist
@canman5060
@canman5060 Жыл бұрын
Some suggestion of the level of proficiency in Czerny's studies 1 Op 823 and Op 599 2 Op 849 3 Op 299 4 Op 636 5 Op 740 6 This is almost impossoble ! Op 365.
@brannonrushing1993
@brannonrushing1993 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! It really helped me! I am beginning 299 and I wasn’t sure how it fit with the others.
@JordiMS78
@JordiMS78 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for you video, very helpful. Op.299, 740, 365 are my prefered. A good path towards Chopin études.
@lilugem
@lilugem 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your video! I got answers to my qustions❤
@emilys28
@emilys28 3 ай бұрын
Merci 😊J’ai aussi Les heures du matin (opus 821) 😍💫
@pedroribeiro4478
@pedroribeiro4478 2 жыл бұрын
I think that czerny is a great part of the piano repetoire. I've done all of them, and in fact they have some things that i've become better , when i went to another type of piano pieces, A must have to increase some techniques...among chopin etudes of course.
@IamKonstantin
@IamKonstantin 7 ай бұрын
Very helpful! Thank you :) I find op 139 or the 100 progressive exercises super useful. Then the school of velocity op 299 after that. ❤
@raniericampos9050
@raniericampos9050 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing content. Thanks!!!
@johnmac8084
@johnmac8084 9 ай бұрын
Very helpful, thanks 😀
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 Жыл бұрын
I just found out about Czerney Opus 481, 50 exercises for beginners.
@CarmenReyes-em9np
@CarmenReyes-em9np 10 ай бұрын
Todo el largo curso de piano ,le dio. clases de tecnica a Lizst Chopin y contemporanesos ,yo estudie el Cerny 30. 40. Y 50. Para la tecnica.
@hauhauplaypiano2602
@hauhauplaypiano2602 19 күн бұрын
very informative :))
@martinbennett2228
@martinbennett2228 11 ай бұрын
Do you use Czerny's op. 718 studies, which concentrates on the left hand? How do you rate their utility?
@bearifiablepau2095
@bearifiablepau2095 Жыл бұрын
Any word on Op. 453 ? I believe it is similar to Op. 599. Thank you for the review and tips! :)
@pianotips2623
@pianotips2623 Жыл бұрын
there are so many more, it's impossible to talk about all of them. but yes, it is quite similar to 599
@heldersmaia1365
@heldersmaia1365 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@BRL1611
@BRL1611 Жыл бұрын
I have all these books plus a few more. IMSLP is a great place to find all these plus some. Also cheack out op. 500 The School of Pianoforte Playing. Its in 4 volumes. Its kind a "method" book of the time era. Neat for teachers for historical study.
@PianoDome
@PianoDome 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for this great and informative overview. I used to play 8 bar etudes a couple of years ago, and now I want to turn back to the keys after a break of several years. As my skills deteriorated, I am looking for something easier and new, so I probably grab 849. I don't actually play them to improve my virtuosity but rather to warm up, train basics and find and fix skills where I am not good enough at as I should be on my level (I really struggle with fast octaves for example, which is why Chopin op. 25 10. is one of the few Chopin etudes that I did never play in the past) What kind of grading system is that? Is there an overview with example pieces for "advanced" grades? I think advanced can be anything between Chopin's Waltzes and Ballades and Scherzi, where the latter I consider much harder but still not yet professional (with the 4th as an exception) I once saw a scale on a German page which 1-8 and then 8+ and 8++ but it was somehow ridiculous because a well-above average hobby player can be far beyond 8++ easily (don't remember the name and where I found it though)
@pianotips2623
@pianotips2623 19 күн бұрын
This channel is for beginner/intermediate pianists, therefore I don't really discuss professional/very advanced material. I believe if you're very advanced, you won't be looking for youtube videos...you either have a great teacher or enough knowledge to learn alone. The only Czerny which is very advanced is op.740 from the ones I mentioned in the video
@canman5060
@canman5060 Жыл бұрын
Op 337 is recommended for busy daily schedule.
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 2 жыл бұрын
Merci for this.
@jacksonamaral329
@jacksonamaral329 10 ай бұрын
Great. I goot many of these ops. Wanna practice...
@teresmajor7956
@teresmajor7956 6 ай бұрын
How do people figure out the right fingering and avoid practicing wrong in these books?
@ericlubisse8461
@ericlubisse8461 6 ай бұрын
So many books!!!
@pianotips2623
@pianotips2623 6 ай бұрын
indeed!
@manuelojeda9144
@manuelojeda9144 11 ай бұрын
Those are the beginner I use with my STUDENTS as I say
@AJ-lw1cp
@AJ-lw1cp 10 ай бұрын
What about Czerny's the school of the virtuoso, or school of the left hand?
@tere9438
@tere9438 11 ай бұрын
Good morning sir. Where is the position of czerny 553 octave studies?
@brynbstn
@brynbstn Жыл бұрын
I’m looking for an exercise that works 5-4-3-2 upward scale motion in the LH.
@pianotips2623
@pianotips2623 Жыл бұрын
any standard is scale is good for that pattern
@brynbstn
@brynbstn Жыл бұрын
@@pianotips2623 Thanks! Was hoping for a Czerny that repeats that motion over and over, with some clever variations 🙂
@pianoismyeverything
@pianoismyeverything 2 жыл бұрын
Tyyyyy
@manuelojeda9144
@manuelojeda9144 11 ай бұрын
Czerny I use with my students at the Music Institute. It's pronounced with K I ALWAYS HAVE. FIR EXAMPLE (KERNEY)
@unipsychle
@unipsychle 21 күн бұрын
I don't hate your video but I rather do hate the fact that you never play any of the exercises that you talk about and you keep referring to School grades which is very confusing as most people don't learn piano in first grade or in school at all. It just really makes it sound like you are talking about something you don't have direct experience in. That may not be the case. The whole thing sounds like you're recalling an article written about czerny from memory
@pianotips2623
@pianotips2623 19 күн бұрын
Czerny wrote thousands of exercises. Do you want to play them all to give a good representation of what I am talking about? The video is long enough as it is. Also, many of the books are progressive, meaning that the beginning is much easier than the end so playing one piece would say nothing about the overall difficulty. I published several Czerny tutorial videos, where I play and teach the exercises in great detail.
@unipsychle
@unipsychle 11 күн бұрын
@@pianotips2623 I stand by my comments, it's simply not a very good video. I understand your defensiveness but that does not make the video any better nor does you choice in background music.
@pianisthenics
@pianisthenics Жыл бұрын
Op.740 is not the hardest!! Op.365 is more difficult
@marcorval
@marcorval 11 ай бұрын
I'd say the Op. 245 study in double notes takes the cake for most technically demanding Czerny piece. It borders on unplayable in certain sections.
@pianisthenics
@pianisthenics 11 ай бұрын
@@marcorval thanks, I’ll check them out. Btw I simply stated that 365 is harder than 740. I didn’t mean to imply that 365 is the hardest, sorry for the misunderstanding.
@marcorval
@marcorval 11 ай бұрын
@@pianisthenics true, but op. 365 is one of the hardest too. But it's not very interesting musically imo. I would prefer Op. 364, Op. 348, or the Sonata No. 10 (which Czerny called the "Étude Sonata") which are all very difficult. Op. 692 and Op. 756 are somewhat easier but also interesting from a musical standpoint. Sorry for the long rambling...it's just that I think some people should stop overplaying Op. 299, Op. 740, Op. 821, etc. because Czerny wrote far more interesting stuff, even in the realm of études.
@matttondr9282
@matttondr9282 9 ай бұрын
Be careful with Czerny’s methods (or anyone else’s from that period) because they were written with a different instrument in mind. The pianoforte action has a completely different feel and it doesn’t quite line up with modern piano technique. Studying these can still be very valuable, but take their recommendations with a grain of salt.
@CarmenReyes-em9np
@CarmenReyes-em9np 10 ай бұрын
Nadie te en tiende.
@adam3797
@adam3797 Жыл бұрын
Let me ask the obvious question…. Why is Mariah Carey all over your practice room, when we’re talking about Czerny / classical music repertoire prep?
@pianotips2623
@pianotips2623 Жыл бұрын
Well, I believe one can love many different kinds of music. I adore Mariah and adore Mozart too.
@jf8812
@jf8812 8 ай бұрын
​@@pianotips2623 very good taste, i love her too!
@brandonmacey964
@brandonmacey964 5 ай бұрын
Gayest photo ever but you do you my friend.. great video
@funicon3689
@funicon3689 3 ай бұрын
@@brandonmacey964chill out
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