I think we are right around the same lines here Oly, dang I wish we were closer.... lol This is one kit I've been mulling about in my noodle maker..... and you know my goals better than most... tell me what you think? www.howardscams.com/hydraulic-flat-tappet-street-force-4-camshaft-lifter-kit-1968-1995-ford-429-460-2000-5600-howards The "trick" you mentioned there is right up the alley I was thinking of... for sure!

My 1st thought was the 'Rattler' series, but they all run on 109 LSA, and with that I'm backing it back into the compression game like you said. As for a target RPM.... I think you caught that in there. I don't care if it's a slow spinner, it's a BBF as long as she pulls good torque I'll play with those numbers and let it spin where it wants to spin. Reason I'm looking at these Kits... is because I'm working another trade with another You-Tuber as well, and it's easier to send parts in the mail, than cash... lololololol

@@BareRoseGarage Both those cams are far too rowdy. Back the duration down to 224-228...... 230 would be pushing it. It's hard when you're not 100% sure where your compression ratio is gonna land. Don't focus so much on D0VE heads. The C8 or C9s are damn near identical and even with those will give you substantial gains. The D3 is, like you said, around 93-95cc. The C8, C9, and D0 are all 72cc so thats a huge gain if you can get your hands on a set of any of those. I'd wait on the cam just a bit incase you do get a pair of those, as that will enable you to run a much healthier cam for the setup. Do you have other piston options? Or are you running what in there? And what year is the block? The '68-70 and the 70-71s have about a .010 difference in height.

@@BareRoseGarage IF you are stuck with the D3 heads, that cam (guessing on a lot of figures) puts you in the ballpark of a 5.94:1 Dynamic C/R. Horrible The target is around 8:1 give or take .5 - 1 full point or so. So... i don't have any concrete #s because your engine isn't in front of me, worst case scenario your current static C/R would be around 7.88:1. Even if you were to run some really sissy cams, i still don't see it getting anywhere close to the 8.0 DCR one would like to see. Better get ya some heads!

@@OlysGarage Oh yeah, it's all pending on the heads I can come up with FOR SURE & I was afraid those where on the rowdy side. Got a lead last week on another early 70's jet boat with the 460 in it. The boat is thrashed but it should have DOVE-C's in it. Won't know until I put eyes on it for sure. If that falls through, I got another lead on a a set of C9's & I'm hitting a couple more wrecking yards here as well that I know have some more of these Fords in them for the just-in-case. As for pistons, I was going to go with Sealed Power flats. Found a sets on EBay for an ok price out of CA free shipping. The block I'm using is a D1VE, it's out of that 77 motorhome so it's using the older castings that didn't have to comply with emissions standards and I'll use those rods. The motorhome only had around 40K on the clock and everything inside it is whistle clean, so other than a piston swap, I think the bottom end is rock solid. Again... thanks a million for the help on this Oly, send me another sticker and I'll stick it on the valve cover with the words "everything that works on this is Oly". I'll put mine on the other side to claim everything that comes apart... lololol.

I totally agree Mitch.

And the hunt is part of the fun.... Lololol Yeah I forgot to mention the C9s because they are almost the exact same as the others but you are spot on man

Much appreciated

Thanks a million for that Ed and I sure do appreciate that call from you. Man I wish we were closer, I'd buy ya supper and put my noodle into sponge-mode for sure! Thanks again man and more coming soon on this!

@@BareRoseGarage You are very welcome Kim. If I ever get up that way you know I'm looking you up for sure.

A quick Hello to you Danny Ray! Hows it going Brother? Are you going to run a 460 in your Mustang like I do? Hope to see some videos on that. Take care.

@@robertclymer6948 Nooooooo...It will be a small block for now. I have a plan for it later on but it won't be a 460. It will be something very different

@@BlackLabGarage what the Heck was I thinking??? lol but still, get some video of that please, if you want to.

Thanks a million Black lab and dang good to see ya man. Sorry it took so long to reply to this, and you are spot on man. As you probably know those Doves like to hide... Lololol Dig what you are doing and look forward to seeing more my friend.

@@BareRoseGarage Thank You for your kind words! That means a lot!

The Mighty Cleveland! One of my all time favorites as well!

@BareRoseGarage ya, I got a great deal on a 1971 Mustang mach 1 351C C6 M code fastback. And 95% of the car is all there. It's going back to all original with a few day 2 add ons.

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Thanks for stopping by man. I did think of that, but I'm doing my best to keep it pump friendly as well. Going to be a challenge for sure.

@@BareRoseGarage The bigger the puzzle the bigger the win. .

Hey there Terry great to see you man! Sorry this is so late coming. Yeah trying do this without compression is going to be tricky at best. I would be very interested in buying those heads from you but I imagine the shipping alone for BBF Heads is insanely high. Those things are beyond heavy... Lololol

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I only need 2.... But those sneaky buggers like to hide in spendy places that are hard on these hillbilly wallets... Lololol

This one came out of a motorhome so fell into the RV/marine (smogless) cat, but the downside is it's a motorhome Torquer, built to come all in at about 4500 rpm using whatever octane fuel you can stuff into it. But like you said, a good foundation to build off of for sure.

Thanks Garland! yeah those Y-Blocks are freaky little things for sure. One of these days I'll find a home for the ones I have around here.... lololol.

Thanks man! Honestly I've been looking for a set of D0VE-C heads for about 10 years now. Funny that I live in the heart of Ford Country yet Doves are hard to come by.... everyone knows the secret to them lololol

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