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40145 Cold Start

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EchoAlphaRomeo

EchoAlphaRomeo

Күн бұрын

Dave Peacock starts 40145 up in cold conditions, in readiness for a loco shunt.
Both 40145 and 50015 were moved to Buckley Wells, where 40145 was inspected and cleared for running on the East Lancs Ambassador railtour, involving two class 40s along the length of the ELR, followed by a non-stop run to Edinburgh with 40145.
A video showing the loco move will be available shortly...

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@Lyssor
@Lyssor 8 жыл бұрын
I just love the sound of the turbos coming up to life...
@tomgauntlestrange
@tomgauntlestrange 6 жыл бұрын
me to, this things alive
@danielcapo1991
@danielcapo1991 Жыл бұрын
Me 3
@baldfatgit1
@baldfatgit1 9 жыл бұрын
I have watched this vid 20 to 30 times and i never get tired of watching it one of my most favorite videos on YT. :)
@Orc-icide
@Orc-icide 8 жыл бұрын
+baldfatgit1 "bald" "fat" "git" I can understand why you watch this boring video. You're really not helping your condition by doing this. Get a life dude. Try stepping out of your cave every once in a while.
@baldfatgit1
@baldfatgit1 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Hunt Thanks for your comment as YT allows every ones opinion and i fully respect yours. It is very clear to me you could not wire up a plug socket let alone understand the true meaning of this video. As i am a fully qualified engineer for over 26 years (Clearly you are not) you will never understand why i and 371 thousand plus viewers have enjoyed this upload. D335Media and spent time and effort to film it edit it then upload it to You Tube so we can all share his enjoyment. You have restricted your site and you hide behind it. Then spew out very immature comments You have never taken the time to upload a vid allow others to comment on your interests. BUT THE MOST INTERESTING PART IS YOU HAVE WATCHED THE VID YOURSELF ????? Have a nice day child. :)
@benconway2721
@benconway2721 8 жыл бұрын
+baldfatgit1 lol well said mate haha
@tomgauntlestrange
@tomgauntlestrange 3 жыл бұрын
me too, I love listening to it and trying to count the cylinders warming up and firing.
@tomgauntlestrange
@tomgauntlestrange 3 жыл бұрын
me too
@bagpopuk
@bagpopuk 15 жыл бұрын
This was like watching James Stewart fire up the Phoenix (c'mon girl, c'mon). I'm not an enthusiast by any stretch, but these beasties used to keep me awake on a warm summer night and on 'til early morning. Not because they were annoying, but because the sound was so addictive, and the station is a good half mile away. Took me ages to nail down which loco was responsible, and without youtube I couldn't have done it. So great to hear that sound again! 5 stars from me.
@luckymisselala
@luckymisselala 12 жыл бұрын
i love the sound , it sounds like music to my ears
@JeremiahDouglas
@JeremiahDouglas 3 жыл бұрын
THIS deserves more views=) but hugs to all that find this masterpiece=)
@garymoore4909
@garymoore4909 9 ай бұрын
Thats a great sample for a drum and bass track right there
@karlk6860
@karlk6860 5 жыл бұрын
This is and will be for a very long time one of favorite cold start vids I have ever seen!
@bababooey7576
@bababooey7576 9 жыл бұрын
Most eargasmic loco coldstart I have found to date. Used to listen to this daily back a few years ago...just awesome.
@RE1974
@RE1974 13 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to become a train engineer seeing this. What a beautiful sound and sight.
@andyrowlands50029
@andyrowlands50029 14 жыл бұрын
Top clag, I bet the locals loved this!
@dave13dc
@dave13dc 8 жыл бұрын
Hooray! There's a new Pope!
@bebajoro77
@bebajoro77 14 жыл бұрын
@joha77johaa The idle governor on these things gets its data from the oil pressure; as the oil is cold and thick the pressure is higher than normal so the governor think it's revving faster than it really is. So it cuts the engine back. Then of course the pressure drops so it revs up again - and cuts it back - and revs it up and so on. All settles down as the oil warms up
@bababooey7576
@bababooey7576 12 жыл бұрын
This video is one of, if not the best cold start of these trains on youtube.. it has everything. that cold lifeless cranking, building heat, then firing, with fireworks and an awesome sound.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 5 жыл бұрын
you might enjoy 50049 start up derby 19 3 18 they really are having trouble.
@37427
@37427 15 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Complete with flames as well!
@CSXtrackworker
@CSXtrackworker 10 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the reply. It sounds very much like alco power cranking over in the winter,
@ModelingSteelinHO
@ModelingSteelinHO 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent sound ! Thanks for sharing.
@Rainhill1829
@Rainhill1829 9 жыл бұрын
Bow to the god of clag, mortals!
@gw4pjq
@gw4pjq 12 жыл бұрын
@rechelieu Well said! In any case no diesel would start at Siberian temperatures. They are fitted with block heaters to make sure they start at all, they do that in Canada as well I believe. The engine in the class 40 when running hot and set up correctly are very clean burning engines. The emergency supply for the Post Office Tower in London uses three 16SVT engines and they are not allowed to emit smoke at all!
@EnidAgnusDei
@EnidAgnusDei 8 жыл бұрын
Perfection sounds amazing and that noise will always haunt me.
@clementemollalesnenanomora6754
@clementemollalesnenanomora6754 8 жыл бұрын
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@clementemollalesnenanomora6754
@clementemollalesnenanomora6754 7 жыл бұрын
aaaaaaaaoowow soskw apalaaaaaaaaa☺😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😇😇😇😇😇😂😂😂😂😂
@andythesoupdragon
@andythesoupdragon 7 жыл бұрын
Ngaba unokubeka le ngxelo ngolunye ulwimi? Andikwazi ukuqonda isi-Icelandic
@chriskalkreuth5130
@chriskalkreuth5130 15 күн бұрын
Never gets old
@millsi1978
@millsi1978 26 күн бұрын
Awesome vid. Those starters had to work for it!
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 14 жыл бұрын
@joha77johaa: An answer to your question. Because it was so cold, the throttle was opened slightly to allow the fuel to flow through the engine better. Because of this sudden change, the engine builds up the revs and looses them again as the power is overloaded, and so the process repeats. The engine run fines in idle, and many british locos have a similar fault when started in cold conditions.
@stonedvideos1
@stonedvideos1 10 жыл бұрын
what a great cold start!!
@BREL313
@BREL313 14 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the flaming!!!!!
@2010monkeywrench
@2010monkeywrench 14 жыл бұрын
Love this startup. Each engine is distinct and depends on cylinder/injector condition. What little heat is in the atmosphere is compressed into a small space, raising the temperature to ignite as much atomized fuel as is present. The best cylinder injector combo starts this off and hopefully others will lend help as pressure seals off the rings and cylinder heat builds from cranking. The motorman holds back on the fuel rack to prevent too much fuel from cooling things off.
@richardprice7763
@richardprice7763 2 жыл бұрын
The 37s and 40s with the large BR logo look so good....
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 12 жыл бұрын
Merci pour le commentaire. Enfin, une langue que je comprends!
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 15 жыл бұрын
You have to wait for the engine to pick up revs first, usually about 20 minutes depending on various factors.
@willibill1
@willibill1 14 жыл бұрын
Now, Thats one cold starting momma.
@MikeGotteri
@MikeGotteri 14 жыл бұрын
@canellenac "The origins of the Class 40 fleet lay in the prototype diesel locomotives (Types D16/1 ordered by the London, Midland and Scottish Railway and British Railways and D16/2 ordered by British Railways between 1947 and 1954) and most notably with the Southern Region locomotive No. 10203, which was powered by English Electric's 16SVT MkII engine developing 2,000 bhp (1,460 kW). The bogie design and power train of 10203 was used almost un-changed on the first ten production Class 40."
@bababooey7576
@bababooey7576 12 жыл бұрын
still the best cold start of these beasts i can find on here...
@smiffy1071
@smiffy1071 14 жыл бұрын
a 50 year old locomotive, on a very cold day, I think it's actually very healthy!
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 12 жыл бұрын
@Rainhill1829 - The fire bell rings like a fire bell in a building would. If there's a fire in the engine room, the bell would ring. The bell usually tinkles a few times when the engine starts because of how everything is wired up, but when the engine is constantly being turned to get it fired up, the bell is still being rung as part of the starting circuit.
@steelernation1989
@steelernation1989 Жыл бұрын
Love hearing those turbos come on song!
@anythingoldmechanical
@anythingoldmechanical 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@baggyaureol
@baggyaureol 15 жыл бұрын
A class 40 has 16 cylinders, each with a 10" bore, hardly the size of a coffee table. It's an English Electric 12SVT (Turbocharged V aligned Traction unit). Trust me, I work voluntarily as a fitter on 40012 ;-)
@paulnolan1352
@paulnolan1352 9 ай бұрын
So it’s the 16svt then?
@peterharper703
@peterharper703 9 жыл бұрын
The King/Queen of Clag and what a monster cold start.. The sound of a Beast
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 8 жыл бұрын
She was COLD! Reminds me of an old Cat D-8H I used to run. It started about like this, one pop at a time!
@paulnolan1352
@paulnolan1352 9 ай бұрын
Good Tractor that along with the 8k.
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 9 ай бұрын
Never ran a K but I don't like suspended pedals much.@@paulnolan1352
@gw4pjq
@gw4pjq 12 жыл бұрын
@3DPeter Hi Peter, This engine is definitely not worn out at all, it has not long ago been fully rebuilt. It is only smoking like this because of the excess fuel that has built up in the exhaust system. When this does finally burn it does so very inefficiently but the smoke soon clears once all cylinders are firing. If it was burning oil in the way you say, it would run away with catastrophic consequences. So dont make ill researched comments about something people have worked very hard on.
@fixinggrace
@fixinggrace 14 жыл бұрын
All locomotives start like this, with all the clag (smoke). Most of the time, these things are run continuously except for maintenance and repairs.
@TobyKoehn
@TobyKoehn 15 жыл бұрын
there must be a hell inside. fantastic start up!
@andrewbennett7756
@andrewbennett7756 14 күн бұрын
Gently dose it with grand old gals sound stunning warming up
@airthreypark
@airthreypark 14 жыл бұрын
This is total class........wonder if anyone recorded it for their DCC sound model rail class 40?
@tramwayz
@tramwayz 13 жыл бұрын
That's my favourite "engine-start"-movie. Awesome.
@Kromaatikse
@Kromaatikse 14 жыл бұрын
To clarify further: English Electric engines don't have cylinder pre-heaters, unlike German engines of the time that were used in some other locos. This is why they have trouble starting from cold, as effectively the starter motor is used to heat the cylinders enough to let one or two of them fire. The "hunting" at cold idle is probably due to the cold governor being sluggish to react - this runs off the engine oil which is still very cold. Once warmed up, it all behaves normally.
@samhirst87
@samhirst87 15 жыл бұрын
What a beast! I wish my motorbike sounded like this!
@formidable38
@formidable38 14 жыл бұрын
@joha77johaa The governors these old engines use are controlled by oil pressure. When the engine is cold the oil is thick, this causes the governor to be slow in reacting to the change in crankshaft speed and consequently to adjust the fuel rack to obtain a smooth idle. When the oil warms up and becomes thinner, the governor can control the fuel rack quicker and so get a smooth idle.
@Vetterjack85
@Vetterjack85 13 жыл бұрын
Icredible emissios. but i love big engines and the sound is wounderful.
@matt26181
@matt26181 14 жыл бұрын
That was nice to watch!Sounded good,,
@burghill1979
@burghill1979 10 жыл бұрын
no some are in preservation - the severn valley railway has two which can be used for heritage purposes or for main line use if they wanted
@vorlonb3
@vorlonb3 13 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one thinking,come on old girl go go go!
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 13 жыл бұрын
@teniszguru No, the Deltic was fitted to the Class 55. This is the EE16SVT.
@gw4pjq
@gw4pjq 12 жыл бұрын
The bell sounds as a warning to make sure no one has a naked flame anywhere near the loco at start up. All that white stuff you see coming out of the exhaust ports before the engine fires is Diesel vapour and air. Do I need to explain the hazard further?
@rickerbyct
@rickerbyct 7 ай бұрын
Sure the neighbours will have loved this
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 12 жыл бұрын
@MihalisNavara - That's the fuel pump priming the engine for starting.
@alanreid3486
@alanreid3486 2 жыл бұрын
Some real foot tapping rhythms and love the turbo spooling up. How many gallons went straight out the exhaust . Magic hahaÀ
@MihalisNavara
@MihalisNavara 12 жыл бұрын
@singletrackmatt Before the cylinders fire up, the diesel is forced to the exhaust by the piston. When it gets in contact with the frozen exhaust pipe, it becomes liquid again. (Exactly the same happens with cold cola cans and steam). When the cylinders fire up at last, there is already much diesel concentrated in the exhaust pipes. The fire from the cylinders ignite it and that΄s why we see the fire.
@2010monkeywrench
@2010monkeywrench 14 жыл бұрын
Compression pressure varies a lot on a worn engine and that is all a diesel has to heat up the air hot enough to burn the atomized fuel. In cold weather, the worn rings, worn injectors just don't make for easy starting. All that white smoke is unburnt fuel. The first hard puff is the highest compression, best injector combo to get enough heat to fire off. Then the heat builds until the next one goes, etc. Governor engine rpm hunting is normal when cold.
@DieCastoms
@DieCastoms 13 жыл бұрын
How common is the fire ball at 2:38? I am JUST getting into sound in DCC. These videos make me want to get a similar loco to have sounds like these for startup! I wonder if I could have two schemes in the decoder, one for a cold engine and one for a warm engine ;)
@Chris.Strange
@Chris.Strange 9 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Hill, Some British locos take ages to start now because they don't have engine pre-heaters fitted. They were designed to be in use most of the time and never cooled down to the temperatures they are started from now in preservation. When in regular service they start on the button with ease. This loco is a Class 40 and has an English Electric 16SVT MKII engine fitted. It is a 2000hp engine and has 16 cylinders all of which are 15.445 Litres displacement. In US terminology that's 942 cu in per cylinder. Not easy to start from dead cold.
@jamesshanks2614
@jamesshanks2614 8 жыл бұрын
To give you an idea on how long technology takes to catch up to today's standards EMD/Progress Rail finally has a tier 4 compliant engine they can sell. The old 2 stroke 710G class engine wouldn't pass tier 4 standards without after exhaust treatment. EMD didn't want to use that system so they had to design with Caterpillar a new locomotive engine EMD's first 4 stroke engine. EMD used the same basic two stroke platform since 1939 and went progressively like this Each engine model is the cubic inch displacement per cylinder 567 in v-6 thru v-16 idle 275 rpm to 800-900 rpm 645 v-8 -12 -16 v-20 710 series v-12 to v-20 rated max was 5000 hp New SD70ACe-T4 rated at 4400 hp with the new 1010 4 stroke engine multiple turbos 1010 cubic inches per cylinder NO After engine exhaust treatment required. Max rpm is 1000 Long live the two stroke engine the two stroke is dead. EMD will continue to make parts for all the 2 strokes they made As that is really their core business PARTS is profit.
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 13 жыл бұрын
@Xenon3149 Nope, the Class 40s were fitted with English Electric 16SVTs. Class 55s were fitted with the Napier Deltics.
@gw4pjq
@gw4pjq 12 жыл бұрын
Glowplugs. No not a silly question but a good idea........ until you consider the size of this engine. Each cylinder is 10 inches in diameter with a stroke of 12 inches and there are 16 cylinders. Because the cylinders are so big there is a "pocket" of well insulated hot air in the cylinder so unlike a small engine it will fire eventually. Remember when these were in revenue earning service they were kept in warmer engine sheds. Also cold air is denser so that will compensate for the "cold".
@rechelieu
@rechelieu 13 жыл бұрын
There is something beautiful about these old English diesels. They are not the pretties looking locos but they have a character. I love looking at them. American locos are not the prettiest either, but who said they need to be pretty. Nice engine.
@slinky460
@slinky460 14 жыл бұрын
I like the pops. Interesting.
@singletrackmatt
@singletrackmatt 12 жыл бұрын
@MihalisNavara Makes perfect sence. While prime-ing ( or engine purging) raw fuel makes its way into the exaust manifold... when the power cell is not burning the fuel, it becomes waist and ignights aft of the power stroke causing a spontainious igition... Physics at its best. Great feed back. I Love to learn.
@Kromaatikse
@Kromaatikse 11 жыл бұрын
This type (Class 40) was well known for the whistling sound of the turbochargers at idle. And as a diesel-electric, it does have a governor as part of the main control gear - the other half of which is the load regulator which adjusts the generator field strength.
@battlestarone
@battlestarone 14 жыл бұрын
my grandad was driver on the railways from steam in to the diesil age,this was his fav type of loco,he called it a mans toy,with all that power in your hands,hahahaha!,,he retired after his second fatal,but always said he missed driving those big diesils.
@JtagSheep
@JtagSheep 14 жыл бұрын
nice sound
@tezskanza
@tezskanza 14 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes! And it took until 1:55 for turbo to finally start spinning.
@johnfrench7947
@johnfrench7947 3 жыл бұрын
worked many of these locos when I worked for BR the D300's then class 40's then re-introduced as the class 97's. Bloody good loco.
@johnfrench7947
@johnfrench7947 3 жыл бұрын
commonly known to us as the whisslers
@johnfrench7947
@johnfrench7947 3 жыл бұрын
good old english electrics when we knew how to build engines What happened.
@johnfrench7947
@johnfrench7947 3 жыл бұрын
remember we use to work them coupled in multi to a class 25 we use to call them combo's then you would see some shite come out of them when you fired them up :-D
@johnfrench7947
@johnfrench7947 3 жыл бұрын
he was starting that up wrong battery switch in then key in select engine only wait for priming pumps to stop then turn her over why she took so long to start think that driver needs revision on that traction ;-)
@johnfrench7947
@johnfrench7947 3 жыл бұрын
only loco you had to scotch when stabling as hand brakes were useless
@mibars
@mibars 14 жыл бұрын
Does newer locos have some kind of engine preheater to assist cold starts? For the first 30 seconds of cranking it's only vaporising diesel fuel, then one cylinder starts to work... one of sixteen!
@bebajoro77
@bebajoro77 14 жыл бұрын
It's the idle governor being fooled by cold oil into thinking the engine is revving too high, so it cuts it back. Then the oil pressure drops so it revs up again, and off we go again . . . . Settles down when the oil warms up
@jammppumies
@jammppumies 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing turbo sound.
@donnactrc
@donnactrc 13 жыл бұрын
The whistling you're hearing are the turbochargers winding up. If they had electronic common rail fuel injection, that white smoke at start up would just about disappear.
@G33RTJEH
@G33RTJEH 11 жыл бұрын
This engine could really use a valve rework and adjustment (Exhaust valves are worn). Nearly all exhaust valves lose lots of compression (The hissing sound when the starting motor turns the motor with lots of smoke and no combustion) Since these motors are even in perfect condition low on compression rate and hence end-of-compression-temperatures every bar (PSI) counts
@paulnolan1352
@paulnolan1352 9 ай бұрын
They don’t have Starter Motors, they have an auxiliary winding in the auxiliary Generator which when contacted turns the Engine over.
@UltradogMN
@UltradogMN 12 жыл бұрын
Great vidio. Thanks.
@ACTractionLTD
@ACTractionLTD 13 жыл бұрын
@D335Media unlike a Western were the engine has to be preheated
@Dazx-Scotia
@Dazx-Scotia 13 жыл бұрын
Great vid, loving all the comments re the engine should have this and that yet I`d guess most of the people that have made such comments dont realize that the engine design goes way back to the 1940s with the 16SVT Mk1 that was in LMS 10000 and most of the technology hadnt been thought of back then
@MihalisNavara
@MihalisNavara 12 жыл бұрын
What΄s the noise at the beginning of the video before the bell? (Sounds like a vacuum cleaner)
@nndorconnetnz
@nndorconnetnz 11 жыл бұрын
Actualy the white smoke is not smoke. It's amotized diesel that has not ignited, if it could be captured you could put it right back in the tank.
@rechelieu
@rechelieu 12 жыл бұрын
@gw4pjq Greetings from U.S. Yes, American locs might not be the best lookers, but their beauty is not to be questioned. I love them! That power is hypnotizing sometimes. And I fell in love with these old Brit locs. I enjoy listening looking at them as well.
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 14 жыл бұрын
@joha77johaa This behavior is quite common in many different diesel engines. When the lube oil is cold, the governor is a bit "sticky" letting the revs build up a bit too much before it reacts and then letting the revs to drop too much. This fixes it self when the oil heats up a bit :-)
@3DPeter
@3DPeter 13 жыл бұрын
@marklandynut The engine is worn out, because the reason that it smokes so much when cold, is because of worn out piston rings. Now that's no problem, because as soon the engine warms up, the pistons will expand just enough to stop the oil blowing by the pistons, and then the smoking wil stop, and the engine can run for years like that, only it wil use a lot of oil, witch is cheaper than overhauling the engine.
@johnthomas5966
@johnthomas5966 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Smoke is unburnt fuel because it is cold. Nothing to do with piston rings. If piston rings were worn you would get high crankcase pressure and fuel in the oil (fuel dilution) which is bad.
@mekydro
@mekydro 15 жыл бұрын
Let's hear it for preheaters........!
@EchoAlphaRomeo
@EchoAlphaRomeo 13 жыл бұрын
@florianska6 This locomotive is maintained to the highest possible standard, as it is a UK Mainline registered loco, meaning it has to be on top form 100% of the time. It it fails just 1 part of a fitness to run exam before a railtour, the loco is declared as unusable. Nothing gets by un-noticed. As I have said before, the technology is well into it's 60th year of operating, and I can CERTAINLY vouch for the freezing cold temperatures.
@snickpickle
@snickpickle 11 жыл бұрын
In the States, we often have to use ether to cold-start a diesel. There are a couple of problems with that, however: 1) a cylinder can blow open!; 2) a mechanic once told me, "Once you start using ether on a diesel, it's like alcohol to an alcoholic -- they just want more!"
@guidofernandez
@guidofernandez 15 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert, but..... Unlike petrol engines that use a spark plug (electric) to ignite the fuel/air mixture, diesel engines depend on the extreme heat generated when the diesel/air mixture is compressed. Unfortunately, if the engine is very cold, the mixture just doesn't get hot enough to actually ignite on it's own. That's why you have a 'diesel' batteries for cars, that have a larger capacity and tend to give more "umpfh" to the starter motor, for longer starts.
@willibill1
@willibill1 13 жыл бұрын
Now that;s a cold start, You guys in England know how to do it.
@6995133
@6995133 13 жыл бұрын
cant understand why they dont put heaters somehow circulating the water in the engine while its not running in the cold weather so it starts easier in the cold
@bondimotori
@bondimotori 14 жыл бұрын
Cioè ragazzi ....mi vengono i brividi:)
@cintra2
@cintra2 11 жыл бұрын
J'suis vraiment content que je n'habite pas à côté de cette garage du train. LOL
@CSXtrackworker
@CSXtrackworker 12 жыл бұрын
What for motoe is under the long hood. Is it an alco motor?
@6995133
@6995133 13 жыл бұрын
cant understand why they dont put heaters somehow circulating the water in the engine while its not running in the cold weather so it starts easier in the cold .
@englandish43
@englandish43 14 жыл бұрын
Oh thats why envionmentalists hated the Deltics... Awe inspiring video, great sights and sound from this old beast!
@TheRolymo
@TheRolymo 13 жыл бұрын
i love this video
@brendankershaw2808
@brendankershaw2808 4 жыл бұрын
WOW. Check this out all you do gooder, pain in the arse , eco maniacs! These things sound just fantastic as well! BLOODY SUPERB!
@cybernetamd
@cybernetamd 12 жыл бұрын
Its making music, I like it.
@mikeysj30
@mikeysj30 13 жыл бұрын
@ASS3464 Simple- they don't know the words to the song. Electric locomotives hum for the same reason.
@tobys_transport_videos
@tobys_transport_videos 13 жыл бұрын
@D335Media Alright then: if the UK isn't cold enough, and you reckon Poland is, point us to a video of a diesel engine starting in your kind of cold. Personally I'd just like to see snow PROPERLY in certain parts of Australia where it does fall! For us, snow is rather a novelty, and very rarely do we see trains in it. :-(
@roNNie_LVIII
@roNNie_LVIII 13 жыл бұрын
If you do not have a volcano to cause a no-fly zone you take a vintage loco :-))
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