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d3o advanced motorcycle armour - trauma test

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Күн бұрын

d3o is now making motorcycle armour from its proprietary ultra-flexible, impact resistant foam. The new armour is incredibly thin, so it can be built into fashion protective gear that doesn't make you look like a power ranger on your bike.
But how does it perform against a standard, thick foam CE protector like you'd find in most motorcycle leathers? Loz donated his body to the cause of finding out.

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@jongab6212
@jongab6212 10 жыл бұрын
There is something about grown men hitting each other with a pan, that gets me every time.
@kd5ptm
@kd5ptm 8 жыл бұрын
I totally respect your test, and yes, I'm sure that hurt. That being said, I crashed my motorcycle last year with D3O in my armor, and I walked away. That stuff REALLY works.
@MrKZee
@MrKZee 8 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Pappas this stuff have to become stronger with stronger impact, so theoretically - hit harder, to make the pain lower... Seems bizarre, isn't it? )
@ionwor
@ionwor 8 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Pappas where did you order it?
@Modelero
@Modelero 8 жыл бұрын
+Kray Zee Depends...harder isn't always better, the harder is a protection the more energy transfers to the body, and if the impact is very strong the material becomes so hard that it shatters like glass.
@MrKZee
@MrKZee 8 жыл бұрын
+Modelero , Sure it’s far from perfect that’s why “theoretically”. However, the perfect one is really nuts. The perfect transfers all the kinetic energy to the energy of chemical bounds. It’s really nuts and it’s possible in theory but in the real life it hurts)
@lillnemo1
@lillnemo1 8 жыл бұрын
there are people who crashed in normal jeans and jacket and walked away....... this vid and tons of forum-talk proves time over time again that thickness and a certain amount of "starting hardness" is crucial to real life protection. Like he said, D30 is still mostly looking into getting the protectors as thin as possible instead of delivering even better protection than already available. Well, the stuff is too thin EVER to give decend protection. also, true, it gets "stiff" and holds the impact after certain distance of impact... But how about impactenergydispersion? you can be sure a thicker protector with a thin, harder scale works best. they have a natural way of spreading the impact over a lager surface .... I have the tryonic backprotector and it is made this way. It's "just" a harder scale with EPS faced towards you spline... I can tell you from 6 (thats SIX) hard crashes over 160km-h on the track , banging on the tarmac, a concrete wall and metalfence that I NEVER EVER FELT ANYTHING of pain on my back!!! Sure it's "thick" but this is as good as it gets. Why do you think helmets dont use sastec or similar?
@NeoRimeOnline
@NeoRimeOnline 8 жыл бұрын
Just something about a giggling guy whacking another giggling guy with a frying pan that's really funny.
@waronmondays
@waronmondays 14 жыл бұрын
I love how scientific the test was :p
@mattcornell1910
@mattcornell1910 10 жыл бұрын
Could you have tried 2 pieces of d30 in one elbow / arm placement to test double thickness strength?
@CajunGreenMan
@CajunGreenMan 8 жыл бұрын
From your laughter, he apparently was NAILING your funny bone! Thanks for the info! Hopefully there was no permanent damage.
@nblax41
@nblax41 12 жыл бұрын
@awwylde Correct, but the material absorbs energy while it's hardening which is how it protects you initially, then the hardness takes over to spread what's left over the surface of the material. Traditional padding just spreads energy with little absorbtion leading to a more traumatic impact on your body, which is why the d3o would be better if it was thicker as it would absorb even more energy before it made it to your body.
@dnunezma
@dnunezma 13 жыл бұрын
That's the test that I really wanted to see, and I think that we have to wait a little bit more. Please contact to them and be the test man of their new staff and publish the results again. Good luck.
@nklinef
@nklinef Жыл бұрын
My understanding is that D30 acts as a non-newtonian fluid, so it's hardening protection is directly correlated to amount of force used. Your mate was just kind of tapping you with that frying pan, so it may have had limited effect compared to ridged armor, but the harder he hit you, the more effective the D30 would become. Also the angle of attack he was using was different on each elbow, the more direct hit on the traditional armor may have redirected the force better and made it feel more effective.
@yeetpro187
@yeetpro187 Жыл бұрын
Im sorry, but I dont understand 😅
@jackiebiskan4748
@jackiebiskan4748 Жыл бұрын
its ok i do
@sevseptem677
@sevseptem677 21 күн бұрын
​😂@@jackiebiskan4748
@jameshealy4594
@jameshealy4594 11 жыл бұрын
Martin, as someone who experienced almost exactly the same accident and received an open book pelvic fracture (exactly what it sounds like) I couldn't agree more.
@waddlesticks
@waddlesticks 12 жыл бұрын
Remember faster the speed the better it works. Seem to have been hitting slowly.
@cloud9847
@cloud9847 Жыл бұрын
it's crazy to see where we've come with armor now. SAS-tec lvl 2 is out now and it's insane.
@WaagooshTheRedFox
@WaagooshTheRedFox 12 жыл бұрын
here's a thought about the subject, insert small armor platelets at the non mobility crucial areas and use D3O as a shock absorbing pad.
@jero2955
@jero2955 2 жыл бұрын
Sir do u mean d3o in the inside layer and armor platelets on the outside? Or the other way around
@MrFido7up
@MrFido7up 4 жыл бұрын
the video is 9 years old :D but still useful , however D3o have thicker pads now CE Level 2 :) so more protection
@ericweber1969
@ericweber1969 3 жыл бұрын
Even after all these years, this is still hilarious!
@MrHoppyX
@MrHoppyX 14 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Perhaps you could try wearing both foam and d3o pads together, testing the d3o on the inside and the outside. If they start making really light and slim armour, I might start wearing in in my everyday life. I want some in my shoes in the event i stub my toes, some for my knees for when I smash my knee into the table etc. :)
@FMLeprechaun
@FMLeprechaun 8 жыл бұрын
Could you make this test again, but with the newer versions? The D3O level 1 pads have become a little thicker (10 mm) and the level 2 (14 mm) pads have come out as well. I've thought about buying D3O and i love this hones review, but i don't think it is worth that much when it is testing outdated products.
@gizmag
@gizmag 8 жыл бұрын
+FMLeprechaun I think Noel would love to do this test again. Me not so much.
@Paolo1
@Paolo1 7 жыл бұрын
FMLeprechaun how was this a test of outdated products? You were commenting on a 6 year old video at the time. Do you also view reviews of 2010 motorcycle models and complain that they're not testing the latest models as well?
@makingconnections777
@makingconnections777 Жыл бұрын
3:14 you guys are officially scientists
@cleubemariadasilvasilva9038
@cleubemariadasilvasilva9038 11 жыл бұрын
I definitely made my mind up after your video, thank you very much for that!
@biohzrd1x1
@biohzrd1x1 10 жыл бұрын
I feel like they could use that stuff under the foam of a helmet
@WiKuTuX
@WiKuTuX 9 жыл бұрын
I think helmet would become way too heavy
@lillnemo1
@lillnemo1 8 жыл бұрын
dude, he showed you it doesnt work well, it works, but only if applied on the same thickness and they appearently dont want too second thing is its too unstable when not in a crash it's a "fluid", your helmet would be moving around a lot.... not something I want my helmet to do
@biohzrd1x1
@biohzrd1x1 8 жыл бұрын
lillnemo1 dude i posted this comment 2 years ago i dont care
@lillnemo1
@lillnemo1 8 жыл бұрын
and I dont care if its 2 years ago and if you care about it. you've got some long toes
@liamkerr7183
@liamkerr7183 5 жыл бұрын
They do use them in football helmets for the NFL
@Ojthemighty
@Ojthemighty Жыл бұрын
It hurt so much he was giggling the entire time
@Ojthemighty
@Ojthemighty Жыл бұрын
How am i only finding out about this 13 years later?
@renegadebiker24
@renegadebiker24 7 жыл бұрын
That is a great scientific research test, although, I start to wonder who was having more fun with that scientific research test, the hit with the frying pan or the guy wearing the jacket. LOL 😎😀😆😄
@SwordofSanity
@SwordofSanity 9 жыл бұрын
Lol, thumbs up just for the cornstarch joke.
@dashcostello6667
@dashcostello6667 10 жыл бұрын
that is more scientific than what i came up with i would have rolled down the stairs
@RideAMAP
@RideAMAP 10 жыл бұрын
I've wanted to find some testing of that armor for some time. Thanks.
@roidroid
@roidroid 14 жыл бұрын
@vineethkuruvath What i mean is: the d3o company's ability to solidify an otherwise non-newtonian fluid while retaining it's non-newtonian fluid characteristics (but now in a manageable rubber-like solid), is a central part of their patent profile. I wish i knew how to do it.
@Amd107
@Amd107 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving my money ;)
@Mroach52
@Mroach52 12 жыл бұрын
for the comment about ce certification. the klim backpad is ce level 2
@katamishi
@katamishi 13 жыл бұрын
Scientific methods, hurt. Great guys, awesome material!
@Jeffro403
@Jeffro403 14 жыл бұрын
It hurt more on the D3O side due to being hit directly on your elbow. The other side was more toward your forearm. The pressure was dispersed on a larger area on the stock armor side. There for less pain. Though your video was well put together, the basis for your conclusion, and your opinion is invalid due to the lack of consistency. but still entertaining.
@ryo5911145001
@ryo5911145001 10 жыл бұрын
way of verification of d3o is interesting ww
@SavageInsight
@SavageInsight 13 жыл бұрын
I'd want to use that current D3O pad as a kind of lining
@motleyassortment5512
@motleyassortment5512 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping to put some around my car to protect from car collision caused by other drivers, i hope it works to ABSORB some shock and prevent damages. Can't find any bull or grille bar online for any cars, but for suv , truck, and jeep.
@angelgalvez964
@angelgalvez964 7 жыл бұрын
combine the two. the d30 as the outer and the softer on the inside
@beefstrogonoff
@beefstrogonoff 3 жыл бұрын
Science. Excellent. Yes.
@MrNicholg
@MrNicholg 11 жыл бұрын
Pain doesn't have anything to do with it. It's a matter of keeping bones from breaking. CE standards for the limb armor are based on the impact energy it can handle, not the force level it transmits. Over the mark for force, bone breaks. If the impact energy(input) is over the limits of the material, the armor has no effect at all. D3O needs nearly double the thickness of Forcefield astrosorb to pass 1621-1.
@briangutierrez5635
@briangutierrez5635 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you with the thickness if you could feel the pain on just a pan can you imagine if you hit the floor or hit a guardrail or a piece of Rock we all had seen the KZfaq videos
@335fusion
@335fusion 4 жыл бұрын
There's impact, and there's abrasion resistance
@madogblue
@madogblue 5 жыл бұрын
They sell 2 different elbow armor thicknesses, this was the thin one
@martinfoster5163
@martinfoster5163 4 жыл бұрын
I believe this video is pretty old but I like it anyway. I’ve got loads of armour from several companies. I believe Knox and Forcefield makes the nest but 3do seems to get most of the publicity for some reason. I ride with a mix of Knox (pretty thick but now also visco- elsastic and temp stable). Also forcefield which is firmer but thinner and also temp-stable visco-elastic. So everybody’s got into visco-elastic. 3do came late to a temp stable compound. The test is valid. I hit myself with a hammer, the flat part, to test my armour. Although all my stuff is CE level - there are still levels of pass rates.
@Badhabitsjay
@Badhabitsjay 13 жыл бұрын
Take the stuff out the jar. Put it on the table. Hit it with a hammer. Note how it barely changes shape at all. Put your old pad on table. hit that with a hammer. Watch as it breaks.
@HirokageAkatake
@HirokageAkatake 11 жыл бұрын
Yep, Icon Stryker Rig and Icon Stryker Vest.
@awwylde
@awwylde 13 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone can correct me on this, but if the d3o armour becomes stiffer and more protective the harder it's impacted, wouldn't it be better the harder you crashed? So, for example, it will do more for someone hitting the road at 60mph than someone being whacked with a frying pan? Or am I missing something?
@nikosanz3238
@nikosanz3238 Жыл бұрын
d30 is fully made for bromance
@adaptiveagile
@adaptiveagile 4 жыл бұрын
About 9-years late to this party. Great vid. The thing that bothers me about that test liquid sent by D3O is that it was at least 3 inches deep. If you poured most of it out, leaving the same level as the height of the elbow protectors, I suspect you’d hurt your fingers pretty bad. So this super thin armor just seems a bit gimmicky. Is there a threshold like, say, 3mm? How could such a thin layer possibly disperse energy from a get-off? If the stuff was thicker, it might stand to reason.
@Chevsilverado
@Chevsilverado 11 ай бұрын
3 years late to this comment but these D3O pads all have certification based on how much force it transmits from an impact so you can find the actual numbers. It’s true that the thin pads don’t protect enough to protect you in a bad crash but they do a surprisingly good job at stopping force transmission and it’s enough to protect you in low speed crashes, and it’s far better than a foam pad of the same thickness and it’s also more flexible. For going around town they’re great, since you can hide them in casual clothing. Basically these thin D3O pads are equivalent to substantially thicker foam pads common in old motorcycle gear. On highways and stuff though it’s smart to get the thicker pads since they’re not too bulky either and they do a great job absorbing impact. My personal experience is I fell off my bike at 50kmh and smacked my knee on a curb wearing rev it jeans with the thinnest “D3O” armour, it was bruised pretty bad but it didn’t have any lasting injury. I’m sure it would’ve been messed up without the thin armour, and I’m also sure it’d be messed up if I was going much faster.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced ... Hit 'im again ...
@raphael52
@raphael52 5 жыл бұрын
These knee pads containing D30 doesn't work. I put the knee pads and wacked it with a hammer. It hurt and the D30 didn't even harden. Such a waste of money.
@ocharni
@ocharni 10 жыл бұрын
the d3o stuff rukka uses in their gear is about as thick as the regular protector shown in the vid...go figure
@mohammadabdullah805
@mohammadabdullah805 8 жыл бұрын
Just like non newtonian fluid....
@dexterx9862
@dexterx9862 7 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks very much.
@bruhdamartinasty3636
@bruhdamartinasty3636 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why you think making D3O thicker would be any different? The whole thing turns rock hard upon impact, doesn't it? Or maybe not. Let's say you have a 10-inche thick layer of D3O. That's very, very thick. Now if you hit it with a sledge hammer, it would take sightly more time to completely harden than a layer of D3O that was only 2 inches thick. That delay (1/1000 of a second approx.) in hardening time provides a cushion effect, I guess.
@Chevsilverado
@Chevsilverado 11 ай бұрын
The thinner armour doesn’t completely harden in an impact. It’s still slightly flexible. This is because it has additives to keep it in a solid shape rather than a liquid, and also becuase the interactions between the molecules still don’t make a totally hard material. A thicker armour will definitely give you more stiffness in a crash, and since it’s very slightly flexible even under impact it’ll help disperse the force across the inner surface better than a thin armour. The force is transmitted below the impacting surface in a wide triangle, and a thicker armour will make the base of that triangle wider which therefore spreads out that impact across your body more. If D3O wasn’t non Newtonian that triangle would be much skinner and sharper, not spreading that force out nearly as much.
@navigator1946
@navigator1946 12 жыл бұрын
There's a jokey comment about genital protection above. Probably from someone who has not had a serious impact in that area. I have. I hit the rear of my motorcycle tank hard with my groin when I collided head-on with an oncoming car. The resulting surgery doesn't bear thinking about. I'm lucky to still function fully. So some of this stuff in underwear similar to a cricket "box" is something I would seroiusly consider. And no joke.
@bogdanabazovska9228
@bogdanabazovska9228 Жыл бұрын
Looool, English way of testing if staff works hahaha 🤣🤣🤣 I've got knocked off of my motorbike the other day, tested my d3O - not very convinced after that experience, got my elbow peeled and bruised...inconclusive they r really good protectors.
@TheINDIAN
@TheINDIAN 7 жыл бұрын
furygan are using them in their gp suits
@f2lo2
@f2lo2 7 жыл бұрын
Great film!
@MergyX
@MergyX 8 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you say it's thin to the point you could actually put 2 sets of armour in your gear comfortably. Good idea or stupid? Considering they have vent holes, you could easily tie 2 of them on top of eachother quite easily, they'd stay in place.
@shaneksmith1957
@shaneksmith1957 11 ай бұрын
Funny as hell! Thanks!
@sivonparansun
@sivonparansun 5 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for frying pan test lmao
@tim30.03
@tim30.03 8 жыл бұрын
this is much more fun make more!!!
@kmyymk2
@kmyymk2 13 жыл бұрын
thanks i was looking for someone real it definantly looked like it was too thin maybe if i could fit this under a diffrent type of armor then yea i would buy it
@powersliding
@powersliding 3 жыл бұрын
great video and insight but i hate to say it, flawed test as pointed out by host that thickness difference played a part
@KirillBerezin
@KirillBerezin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@pietervanschaik1442
@pietervanschaik1442 7 жыл бұрын
Just put 2 or 3 D3O's togehther to achieve the same thickness. I combine the thicker protection with D3O, yes its a bit bulky, but who cares?
@cycloxer
@cycloxer 11 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing BMW uses the same armor (same orange color) in their jackets. However, the armor in my BMW jackets is a fair bit thicker than the d30 you show in your clip Maybe that's the ticket?
@sniperpistol50
@sniperpistol50 10 жыл бұрын
Lol. "Cornstarch"
@justinm410
@justinm410 12 жыл бұрын
BUT I LIKE FEELING LIKE A POWER RANGER!
@somesillysap
@somesillysap 14 жыл бұрын
Great test, well done.... are you still playing Toady on Neighbours?
@java146
@java146 13 жыл бұрын
Flexible with heat? What about abrasion resistance once that asphalt has worn your jacket away (esp textile)? They'll find you in the ditch as there will be an orange goo stain leading the way.
@labebe1899
@labebe1899 8 жыл бұрын
thanks so much
@tsangarisjohn
@tsangarisjohn 9 жыл бұрын
haha, thanks for the sacrifice :)
@dbvire
@dbvire 11 жыл бұрын
so what. you can buy two pieces and stick them together in each joint, dont you? they sell separately and you can buy two for each joint...
@evecvlt
@evecvlt Жыл бұрын
D30 hoodie
@Trollygag
@Trollygag 11 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it's sold/marketed as 1 piece per joint.
@roidroid
@roidroid 14 жыл бұрын
@vineethkuruvath but as part of this padding kit - they include scissors to trim down the armour to fit into your jacket. If it were layered with liquid wouldn't it leak? And wouldn't there also be a risk it would leak if punctured? I've not heard of this risk - i assumed there is no liquid in it.
@bobirwin1028
@bobirwin1028 Жыл бұрын
One side hurts more? uh...would that be the side being hit on the point of your elbow???
@richero1709
@richero1709 10 ай бұрын
Let’s be fair, with no protection at all his elbows would probably be shattered at this point.😂 So have at least some level of protection (either D3O or other). Ride safely friends!
@LSsuperior
@LSsuperior 11 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong.., but doesn't ICON produce a radical looking STRYKER armor set with D3o technology? Furthermore from the looks of it they have applied the intelligent dispersion system within a injected molded shelll..
@kenpox
@kenpox 14 жыл бұрын
yup , you see , the Orange armor type , its made for slides .... and the thick From CE its made for impact , so youre comparing 2 different types of armor D:
@izabelbraga4388
@izabelbraga4388 3 жыл бұрын
E so do you have to use both? in a fall you fall and slide. no one will choose to desk because they are using a d3o
@KinetiK138
@KinetiK138 14 жыл бұрын
@schumacher500 As long as they're wrapped we're all safe, no worries.
@Hooch_Is_Crazy
@Hooch_Is_Crazy 13 жыл бұрын
SCIENCE at its best!
@joetayor6841
@joetayor6841 11 жыл бұрын
Logic hurts !
@SuperCheese88
@SuperCheese88 13 жыл бұрын
I'm more interested in its ability to handle friction. If I go down and burn through the leather I wanna know what's under it isn't gonna shred away to. That being said, I wouldn't mind that stuff in some riding shorts. Little extra padding for my ass.
@GenkiDamaSSJ
@GenkiDamaSSJ 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like they gave you an elbow pad for Baseball. It's crepe thin
@kayoh8390
@kayoh8390 Ай бұрын
Can you make a video again and test again
@evecvlt
@evecvlt Жыл бұрын
So only go for the face.
@thesoysaucechicken
@thesoysaucechicken 14 жыл бұрын
brilliant!
@roidroid
@roidroid 14 жыл бұрын
@vineethkuruvath no, typical non-newtonian fluids are fluids
@johng539
@johng539 Жыл бұрын
Noting to do with the wild pig being shot on this video , we all just hate to see anything being killed with a gun! So much murder we all see today, we love to eat ham, pork chops and ribs especially baby back ribs, But we don’t wanna see any creature being murdered especially shot in the head, WE DONT WANNA SEE THIS LIVE IS THE PROBLEM!
@sarcasm-83
@sarcasm-83 12 жыл бұрын
So.. you had multiple d30 pads and you didn't come to think about putting 2 or 3 of them in there? You know, that does count as "thicker" :)
@luisloks
@luisloks 12 жыл бұрын
i am not buying that shit until it becomes ce certified...
@RideAMAP
@RideAMAP 10 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've wanted tl fl
@simonhachin8954
@simonhachin8954 7 жыл бұрын
were did you get the sample of D3o used at the beginning? I am a french student who want to make a research about non newtonien fluids so I would like to get a sample of D3o? I would be pleased to have an answer thank you
@holohulolo
@holohulolo 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he hits to slowly a d doesnt really allow that d30 to do its thing.
@TheHeliumSkater
@TheHeliumSkater 11 жыл бұрын
What if it was designed to be put into the pads, so it's like an otter box case for your body?
@scriptotres
@scriptotres 13 жыл бұрын
no, they should not be placed in bumpers
@DummyFace123
@DummyFace123 12 жыл бұрын
I think that d3o doesn't have a future as a single solution product. Because it bounces it by default does not absorb the impact its repulsing it. It still has great usefulness in padding but i'd say as the last defense rather than the only defense. I believe this material would be the perfect last resort material between a hardened fiber resin composite human flesh. Best example I can think up, put it beneath this: Y O U T U B E /watch?v=_DGZ04YBTpk CF/ImpactGel/CF/d3o layer cake
@DennisEldrup
@DennisEldrup 5 жыл бұрын
This post didn't age well... Haha 😁
@The0nlySplash
@The0nlySplash 4 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend that as backprotector? I mean in theory my spine could still break if it gets bend the other way. D3O doesnt protect there, doesnt it?
@Synonymous_Legion
@Synonymous_Legion 7 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but could D3O be used to prevent bullet injury with the help of Bulletproof materials?
@danialhussin
@danialhussin 14 жыл бұрын
do u mind hitting faster? they said the reaction works better at high speed. as u can see in this video and the one the d3o ceo let himself be hit in the head. he was hit a lot faster than u were. if u dont mind gizmag
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