This video is about setting the timing on a mechanical based distributor engine. I use a classic mini in this video to explain and demo how to do this work. Enjoy
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@neilallen88043 жыл бұрын
From a retired public schools Industrial Arts (shop) teacher, you are an excellent teacher. I come from an automotive background, in that, my Father owned and operated an automotive repair shop for 30 plus years and yes, I ended up a 'motorhead' / hobbyist. I have a fully restored, 64 Volvo 1800S a couple of my Father's cars and others of my own. You sir "know your stuff" and relay your knowledge exceptionally well !
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Neil..
@stolegrom62243 жыл бұрын
Master is the one who knows to share the knowledge, not to keep it for himself. Appreciate your work, sir!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@tanyramos80453 жыл бұрын
Never late to learn how ignition with points and condenser works, great video sir.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
You got that right! especially if you like to work on oldtimers... Thanks for the comments
@thegeneral80193 жыл бұрын
One of the very best tutorials I’ve ever seen. Everything’s very well explained and easy to follow.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@LoneStarMini3 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely brilliant. I cannot tell you how much sharing your knowledge is appreciated. Because I'm learning everything on my classic mini, I will watch this video multiple times to figure out all that you have shared... thank you
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ShaunCymruDS83 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to see your enthusiasm and share your knowledge Steve and I appreciate the effort that goes into the process of recording/editing to share with the community.Keep up the good work!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@dvrom2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome tutorial, I started getting into vintage cars and has helped heaps, thanks
@traylorjbc3 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I have seen on KZfaq that covers this subject
@lisaharris38682 ай бұрын
All these videos on the carbs, set up and timing are fabulous and exceptionally well presented. I only have one observation, when testing the advance curve of the ignition the vacuum advance should be left DISCONNECTED, it acts independently of dynamic advance. Vacuum advance is there to increase the advance when the compression ratio in the cylinder drops ( due to the vacuum in the inlet manifold ). Under low load, partial throttle, so partially open carb butterfly valve the compression ratio in the cylinder will drop below 10:1 and pressure in the cylinder will be lower, so the fuel air molecules are not so close together and therefore the flame front travels slower. The vacuum advance takes this into account and will increase the advance beyond that of dynamic advance. This ensures a cleaner burn and a better pick up from part throttle. In racing vacuum advance is almost unnecessary, as the throttle is fully open most of the timer closed.
@johnduncan8776 Жыл бұрын
That was the best explanation of static and dynamic advance I have ever heard. Thank You.
@davidsheppard1133 Жыл бұрын
This was the best video on the parts of the ignition system and how the ignition system work. And also how to adjust it to the absolute best setting so you can get the best performance from your engine. Thank you very much for taking the time to explain this in such detail. I really enjoy it. I have an MGB that was in pieces when I purchased it and I can already see this is going to be very helpful!😀
@dv8r8922 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent insight - explained so clearly and effectively. It would be a privilege to have you as a father/grandfather - so much 'good old' knowledge to be passed down :) Your videos on carburetors are of very high value to me - my classic corolla is going to purr thanks to your instruction - Cheers from Perth, W.A.
@matthewg946610 ай бұрын
Love your educational, instructional videos. I'm trying to get my old Spitfire with dual SU's tuned up and I am watching as many of your videos over and over before I attempt it. As many others have said, you're a great teacher: organized and know how to present.
@onboro_alfa_SGL Жыл бұрын
Very nice, clear and comprehensive lecture for the fundamental mechanisms of the ignition system. Easy to understand. Thanks for the great video 👍
@Scuba72Chris Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent explanation, the best I've seen so far. Your video answered so many questions that I had and it's given me confidence to sort out the timing on my Morris Minor. Keep up the great work!
@user-zt4zf7sd3c Жыл бұрын
I can only join into the praising of your knoledge, teaching and video skills. Hats off to you, sir.
@alspurs703 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing. So clear and easy to follow. I’ve wtched all your classic mini ones in the last 24 hours. Please keep them coming.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Giuliettashop2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video!!! I am in the process of getting 7 of my late 50's and early 60's Alfa Romeos on the road and this information is absolutely Golden!!!! Thanks
@Eurostang Жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I’ve seen on KZfaq and perhaps any other media! Love the videos keep em up 😊
@robertbaron84962 жыл бұрын
He is an excellent teacher, takes the mystery out of many things.
@jockofthebushveld2996 ай бұрын
Excellent Theoretical & Practical explanations well done very professional,I have to say that is one of the cleanest Engine Compartments I've ever seen.
@rickperrotta3 жыл бұрын
What a great explanation! Thanks for sharing your knowledge in a logical and simplified way.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@dgriffin60742 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed. This is the best teaching on ignition tuning I have ever seen. Thanks. BTW, you mentioned Relevant spark plug several times. I looked for them at my auto parts retailer; I saw Champion, NGK, Bosch but no Relevant. OK, just kidding. Great video.
@johnmcauley33173 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Steve. Your camera work and explanation (s) are second to none!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@m.macdog51133 жыл бұрын
I know absolutely nothing about engines. Your way of communicating concepts is excellent. I now have some understanding of the basics. It really helps when talking to my mechanic. I really enjoyed this video. Thanks mate
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@barbfink61123 жыл бұрын
Steve you’re fantastic. Have a Classic Mini and need all the help I can get. I have learned so much & can watch over again to make sure I understand! Bravo!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@davewilliams96562 жыл бұрын
At last! I no understanding what a DWELL ANGLE is. Such a good clear explanation. Thank you. I can apply the knowledge to my classic MG Midget!
@grahamcollett6883 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. One of the best explanations I’ve seen on KZfaq. Great work!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comments
@ronaldlwando872 Жыл бұрын
Commenting from Zambia, you have really helped me am doing Automotive Engineering
@dongardner71373 жыл бұрын
As always, Steve, your instructional expertise makes the complicated simple. I’m glad you mentioned “Old Rusty.” My postpartum blues will soon vanish.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you for the comments
@mps737 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video sir. You are an excellent teacher. Thank you.
@richardarnold38123 жыл бұрын
I can never see me doing this on my car, but now i understand how it all works. A really comprehensive presentation :)
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! and thanks for the comments
@deangaryjames3 жыл бұрын
I used to do Crypton tuning years ago, i'm 63 yrs old and still tuning my minis, this video was a refresher course for me, thank you Steve
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments Dean, we are about the same age, young at mind and hart... Will need to check the Crypton tuning
@erikrezlman79002 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for the videos and the details you communicate!
@GPZ_Biker4 ай бұрын
This was a great video. Very very informative and delivered in a perfect way. Thank you. More videos like this on the technical ways to tune minis please. Youve gained a subscriber.
@iamrichrocker3 жыл бұрын
amazing prep and editing on this great tutorial...thank you for your efforts
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@marktelford21603 жыл бұрын
Another very well done and informative video. Most people much under 50 years old will not have had much exposure to points ignitions. I probably would have shown the other end of the secondary coil connected to the negative terminal of the coil as electrically, it is and may help people with fault finding a dead coil. Also, as a couple of people have mentioned, you didn't include the condenser in your diagram or explanation. It can be a simple cause of a dead ignition system or the reason your points burn out quickly. While this type of ignition system is now considered 'old school', low tech and high maintenance compared to modern ignition systems, if you understand them, they are very reliable and easy to fix by the side of the road. Again, a very excellent tutorial as usual.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comments Mark, and a good point... I should have done that...
@melvynwoodman57873 жыл бұрын
True enough in theory, but now the spares for these systems are not required or produced in quantity anymore, they are often produced in dubious places to equally dubious standards such that replacing items with new doesn’t necessarily solve a problem or only does so for a short time leading to much frustration.
@Imforeverenglish2 жыл бұрын
Wow! If only Haynes explained things that clearly. I thought I knew most of this stuff but your explanations are clear and concise...great work thank you for posting these videos
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Cavalier_Steve3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson I always wondered what the dwell measurement was, I thought it would be complicated but it was really simple the rest of it was beautifully presented. A big thank you. Steve.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@williamingleton79802 жыл бұрын
very helpful and interesting. Thank you, it has increased my understanding a lot.
@LauriLevola3 жыл бұрын
Wow. A long video, but everything of usual interest has been but into a clear, consistent and (still) concise package. Liked!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@bmerfunitec2 жыл бұрын
What a beautifully expressed understanding of the ignition process. Thank you. I know a thing or two but...you added to my clarity of understanding and used the correct terminology in a way that I could grasp and improve my knowledge. You have bridged the gaps.Very grateful to you. Best regards. Merf
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@craigmalm15583 жыл бұрын
Thanks much. Haven’t adjusted timing, dwell, etc since I ran a muscle car in the 60’s/70’s and now bought a 75 Porsche 914 that has not been run for 10 years and this was very helpful!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped , and 914 wow that is a nice car.... post a video, so we can see it....
@Conor.Twomey3 жыл бұрын
Super video. Best explanation I have seen on advance in ignition systems.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@jamewakk3 жыл бұрын
You are an excellent teacher, love your videos.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! thanks for the comments
@MookieZerang3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen such clear explanation as you do Mr 3DSshooter, thank you.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@novakenss3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could have seen this video when I was a teenager in Auto Shop in high school. Thanks again for another fine instructional video. Ken
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@novakenss3 жыл бұрын
After years of connecting the vacuum advance to the ported vacuum, I finally learned that the best connection is to manifold vacuum. This allows the engine to run cooler and better on the street and during lower RPM conditions. When throttle is opened, it decreases and the mechanical advance takes over. Port vacuum was used when the smog control era started in the late 60's in the US. In the old days, manifold vacuum was used. I've made this change to several cars and they always run better. You probably know all this already. Thanks again for your excellent videos, especially on Weber carburetors. I have 3 DCOE 40's on my '72 Datsun 240Z and they need proper set up and care. I've learned a lot from you.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comments, much appreciated
@sheep1ewe3 жыл бұрын
I must say that we are realy not spoiled with content of this high quality on KZfaq, especialy not hidden behind a paywall either, Both the content wich is realy professional and actualy useful as well as the videos them self genuinly hold up the highest quality on Your channel!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! and thank you
@vdel90363 жыл бұрын
I've learnt a lot. Thank you for this lesson.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@peterwhiting6264 Жыл бұрын
I’ve know the what and how since I was about 13 years old but now I understand a lot more about the why, especially the importance of points gap. Thanks for an excellent tutorial
@D3Sshooter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@peterwhiting6264 Жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter you are welcome. I always thought the points gap was about making sure the gap couldn’t be bridged by a spark. I never realised it determined the dwell angle and the power achieved in the HT circuit.
@frankbartolo52233 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve I knew all that but now I really know all that Great detailed description keep up the excellent work you are doing 👍🇦🇺
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@nolanpadhwootan7225 Жыл бұрын
Very well explained 👌 one of my favorite youtuber
@demetrispatrikarakos55653 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you for the tutorial. I have an Innocenti 1001 export and your presentations are really helpful.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Innocenti 1001 nice
@lavo62773 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've often heard of advance curves but never really understood it.........until now. Cheers.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@sjp520473 жыл бұрын
That pretty much says it all. Great explanation. Regards, Solomon
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@onepairofhands2 жыл бұрын
great video - you sir are a natural teacher !
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@georgehamp98712 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation. Well done.
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@davidbattye78862 жыл бұрын
What an amazing tutorial. Thank you.
@hosrow2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos.
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@robertbandusky95652 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent presentation 😎
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@aureliobrighton18712 жыл бұрын
Wish I will have 'anything' together as masterful and calm eventually ... to watch and listen here is inspiring .. from and to any angle . Thankyou 'in advance' :)
@edwardlocke8742 жыл бұрын
Great info and presentation thank you !!
@lasorelayАй бұрын
this takes me so much knowledge.
@mohabatkhanmalak11613 жыл бұрын
Now that is 'fine tuning'. Very well explained, some of us need refresher tutorials especially when we are surrounded by electronic ignition vehicles. Fine tuning results in very good engine performance, the acceleration, power and economy are great. Glad to know 'old trusty' parts are on the way and looking forward to seeing her start.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, indeed sometimes we forget all the old principles, although they still stand with electronics
@mohabatkhanmalak11613 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter One of the ways I fine tune is to clean all ignition primary and secondary circuit connections and renew worn wires. I unscrew and sand down the connectors with emery paper until they shine, from the ignition switch (if its easy to get to) to the coil and distributor. The result is the coil gains more voltage and even this small gain is added to the total which in the secondary gives a much better spark. The engine will then have quick starting, better fuel economy and power. Usually commercial mechanics don't have the time to do this.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 , that is indeed very good practice...and always a requirement to any further adjustments etc.
@erikdekoster41373 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your post, very informative and helpful.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@joyeriaestesun21713 жыл бұрын
wonderfully explained, thank you
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@paulmuff9883 Жыл бұрын
An excellent explanation many thanks😊❤it
@mojdedy Жыл бұрын
Very well explained!! god job!!!
@philmahoney66562 жыл бұрын
Really found this interesting , great video. Cheers
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@christhjian99233 жыл бұрын
I remember looking video like that few years ago and found nothing. That was amazing timing adjusting video really.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@michaelgough92562 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Greeting from Australia. Very informative
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply , as i was away for work. But thanks for the comments.
@andymiddleditch38553 жыл бұрын
Very well made video, very informative and very useful.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@ianmorral8702 жыл бұрын
Great work, another fantastic and detailed tutorial, I have to be a little pedantic and say that, if an engine is set up and running properly, the fuel/air mixture doesn't explode it burns albeit aggressively. If it does explode then the engine is pinking, I remember this from my college days, it was one of my tutors pet hates if anyone said the fuel/air mix' was exploding.
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@RoopGill Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I learned so much. please keep it up.
@D3Sshooter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@Budso012 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video presented in a very easy-to-understand manner. I must, however, take exception to a couple of items that might be misconstrued by your viewers. 1) In the normal combustion process, the air/fuel charge burns rather than explodes. At the moment of ignition, the charge begins to burn, forming a flame front that burns outwardly from the point of ignition across the combustion chamber at a certain burn rate. This burn rate is affected by combustion chamber design, piston dome shape, and AFR along with cylinder charge filling, ambient environment, etc. If during the burn cycle, combustion temperature and/or combustion pressure exceed the fuel's ability to suppress detonation, the otherwise controlled flame front suddenly explodes, creating the "pinging" heard during detonation. As you mentioned, too much spark advance may create unnaturally high combustion temperatures and pressures that result in detonation. 2) Disregarding vacuum advance systems used for emission controls on older cars, the vacuum advance system was developed as a means to improve fuel economy at steady-state cruising speeds. For example, at 60-65mph, the typical car engine is loafing. Combustion temperatures and pressures are quite low, while AFR values are usually lean. The throttle plate (butterfly) is only partially open, creating high engine vacuum, an indication of low engine loading. Under these partial load conditions, the aforementioned flame front becomes quite lazy with its burn rate. If the best efficiency is to be obtained, the ignition timing needs to be advanced several degrees to compensate for the slow-burning charge. The vacuum advance mounted on the distributor of most older, vintage cars accomplishes this chore quite handily. The unit consists of an enclosed diaphram with two connections; a manifold vacuum (or ported vacuum) hose attached to one end, with the other end connected to the ignition advance plate by a metal rod. As engine vacuum rises in response to partial throttle, the strong vacuum signal pulls the rod via the diaphragm, advancing the ignition timing to adjust for slow fuel burn. Combined with both initial (static) and centrifugal advance, the total advance at this point may well be considerably beyond 40-45 degrees. When more power is needed, the throttle is opened and engine vacuum is correspondingly reduced. The drop in vacuum immediately removes all vacuum advance from the igntion points advance plate and returns the ignition timing to static and centrifugal alone. side note: It is important to remove the vacuum hose from the diaphragm and place a plug in the hose before setting the timing. This is particularly important if the other end is connected to the intake manifold. With no engine load and high Intake vacuum, the vacuum advance will be engaged regardless of RPM and adversely affect the outcome of the timing procedure. Once again, all of your videos are top-notch and very much appreciated. After selling my MGB thirty years ago, thanks to you I now know how the carbs work! Well done.
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, great write up !
@joelthomas8183 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your vidéos. Keep going the good work.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@joelthomas8183 жыл бұрын
I really like what you do and how you teach it. This is directly applied on my car :)
@misunderestimator52839 ай бұрын
so helpful - thank you!
@taffyowen46313 жыл бұрын
That was excellent, thank you.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@IDunNoBr03 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thanks mate :)
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@MarocainComedy2 жыл бұрын
Clear instructions , thank you for sharing
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@chuckm58743 жыл бұрын
Thank you great presentation. 👍
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@Shiznit30410 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation
@doglegjake67888 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@D3Sshooter8 ай бұрын
TXS for the comments
@DRW583 жыл бұрын
Hi thank you for a very interesting video, I know more now than I did before I just have to put this into practice now to see if I can get my engine to fire up after a complete rebuild. I think if I can get the static timing set then there’s a chance it should run as I have a spark at all the plugs and fuel to a professionally refurbished carb.👍👍 Take Care Stay Safe Everyone Regards Dave 🏴
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! and yes with all the basic settings it wil start
@kallehjelmstrom40103 жыл бұрын
really well explained video. Let me guess, you must have been a teacher before. You make me think back to my high school days. In fact, I do not think today's high school students get this information.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comments, No teacher , but I did develop some new things ( electronics ) in the past and new methods that I had to sell to the management and lead engieers... so over time I have learned what I believe is the best approach to bring something across
@tremere6133 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video!!!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@milk43 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comments
@rdperformance86973 жыл бұрын
Amazing video ,thanks
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@maxboonkittypoison3 жыл бұрын
Well, i have learn something watching this video :) Thank you & greetings,, Kitty.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@brianparkinson15943 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense when it is well explained !
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@georgeburns58113 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@mikegordon28403 ай бұрын
Good video well explained
@therealringalls8 ай бұрын
Thanks again for this! I'll be setting up my HIF44 this weekend on my 1275 mini. I may have some questions. I've watched all your mini videos a number of times.
@D3Sshooter8 ай бұрын
TXS for the comments
@robertbandusky95652 жыл бұрын
Thank you Professor 😎
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@kerrygleeson44093 жыл бұрын
Thank for sharing your knowledge Steve always interesting
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@laurentiuprisacariu9905 Жыл бұрын
amazing lecture
@WouterB763 жыл бұрын
Actually ignition happens a few degrees before TDC, increasing with engine speed. Great explanation again!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@beniamino9393 жыл бұрын
I appreciate point-style ignition too.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, I like it because its so simple. However I will move soon to a full programmable version with IPAD bluetoot integration... that is to come soon