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Dacian Falx Vs Nepalese Khukuri against Chain Maille!

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ThegnThrand

ThegnThrand

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@johnduquette7023
@johnduquette7023 Жыл бұрын
THEGN'S BACK!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Ja ek em!
@Hrolf_Alfblod
@Hrolf_Alfblod Жыл бұрын
Gods I love that falx! So glad to see it make a return. Iamandi created a true treasure with that one. If i remember correctly, he made you a couple of other blades as well, right?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Ja he did two handed version as well that's the hand and half!
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
Thrand, I told you in March of 2021 that people would welcome you back with open arms & judging by the comments I'm am pleased that I wasn't wrong! This vid was excellent! Glad your back & things are starting to get back on track for you!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks shield brother and glad you are right!
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 Rock On! The gods clearly haven't forgotten you!
@megabytes6434
@megabytes6434 Жыл бұрын
You're back! I'm so happy! 🎉🎉🎉
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Good to be back!
@sambakich7494
@sambakich7494 Жыл бұрын
Hail! That falx is an awesome weapon!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks and agreed
@erichusayn
@erichusayn Жыл бұрын
Heeeeeees back!!!!! Great to see a video. My great grandparents coming from Romania in early 1900s makes me partial to the falx. Gotta get one made one of these days.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Iamandi Christian is on Facebook he can make you a traditional one in Romania!
@HistoricalWeapons
@HistoricalWeapons Жыл бұрын
Instead of penetrating for lethality, I think the blade shape allows one to go around the armor in ways Roman infantry was no experienced with. Most roman infantry were only armored at vital parts but there are plenty of exposed skin
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Agreed but the accounts say it did penetrate early Roman armor and cut though shields not just go around it.
@richardyarbrough5437
@richardyarbrough5437 Жыл бұрын
Man, it is so good to have you back. Could you test a reverse katana or saber strike where the blade is pointed forward like the falx? It would be a false edge strike, but with the intention of hooking down similar to the falx. Do you think that would be effective against armor? Basically, flip the sword over and strike with the tip as it’s curved forward on the curved sword. You could just do a false edge strike with the tip on a saber since the guard would be preventing you from holding it reversed.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
We could try that in a future video
@pinarppanrapir9489
@pinarppanrapir9489 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about that as well! People keep saying the bowie back tip cut is better for fighting than using the true edge, so a comparison between true and false edge cuts would help me understand better.
@ulfhedtyrsson
@ulfhedtyrsson Жыл бұрын
Love me some falx. Such a simple design for such devastating close combat.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Agreed awesome weapon.
@randomsketchystuff5572
@randomsketchystuff5572 Жыл бұрын
Yessss! My two favorite weapons in one video!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Mine too!
@williammullinax6130
@williammullinax6130 Жыл бұрын
Man I love the Dacian weapons. Gotta get my hands on one of these. Excellent video Thrand.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Contact Iamandi Christian on Facebook he is a Romanian Historical Dacian Blade Smith he can custom make a blade for you anyway you prefer it like he did for me.
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the Falx, gotta compare the Falx or the Rhompeia with the type Oakeshott Type XVIIIc at cutting
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 I heard the Oakeshott Type XVIIIc wins almost every contest. Rn there is a cheaper model of it that comes with a cool (but lame) metal ring leather scabbard being sold in Kult of Athena that Skallagrim reviewed. Around the 300-500 price range, not like the Albion Principe (that even tho its a bada$$ sword it is expensive). That blade shape might be the optimal one for cutting. Who knows. Its thin, its wide, it tapers. Dont test it against metal though I dont see the reason we all know slashes just wont cut it.
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Despite being shorter a kukri, due to shape & weight, definitely cuts like a "short" sword.
@adrianjagmag
@adrianjagmag Жыл бұрын
Good Khukuri are harmonically constructed like swords with distal taper in tang and blade and with nodes at the COP and tang blade transition.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
It cuts like a much larger blade and i think with a thrusting technique i thought of will pierce the maille will be back testing that idea!
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 I think the potential to get through maille is there especially with kukri that have narrower tips. Sure it's not as slim as points designed to pierce but it certainly is a robust tip.
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianjagmag they certainly are constructed that way, many even have differentially hardened blades. For their size many are heftier than similar sized knives, but that is by design & even kukri style blades that are much lighter still cut exceptionally well.
@adrianjagmag
@adrianjagmag Жыл бұрын
@@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 almost all if not all traditional khukuri were edge quenched and tempered with residual heat, even upto the BIA Mk3.
@funniestfun3753
@funniestfun3753 Жыл бұрын
Versatility of khukuri is unmatched
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
It's an excellent blade
@mansfieldtime
@mansfieldtime Жыл бұрын
Glad your back and going strong. Praying for you. One of my favorite videos were your Deadliest warrior playlist. It was also how I discovered your channel. Though I was to the party.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks shield brother
@ulfhedtyrsson
@ulfhedtyrsson Жыл бұрын
Ive got a old kukri about twice as long. Got it from a pawn shop for only $10 when I was about 13. It has silver inlaid handle and a silver lion's face pommel. Im not sure exactly how old it is as specifics in documentation on them is pretty thin. But the closest thing I found was Nepalese military officers kukris from the colonial age. Most similar were between 1780s and 1860s. Old enough that the handke wood has petrified into near stone though.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
very nice and good deal!
@doratheexploder286
@doratheexploder286 Жыл бұрын
the lion head pommel ones are indian made for tourists, some have decent blades though. You won`t find those pommels on nepalese made ones.
@ulfhedtyrsson
@ulfhedtyrsson Жыл бұрын
Ah. Yeah I found some with the same exact inlaid handle but without the lion. That makes sense though as there are no lions in India lol
@blochtar
@blochtar Жыл бұрын
Love to see so much improvement on your kukri technique, also great strikes with the falx. Question: which sword type do you prefer? (knowing your bias)
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Both actually Khukuri excellent cutter and fa;x acts like a cutting piercing blade combined with cutting action. I do wanna come back try a pure punching thrust with Khukuri
@ShagShaggio
@ShagShaggio Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JohnnyGoble-oi8ie
@JohnnyGoble-oi8ie Жыл бұрын
Another great video, but, as a side-note how thick is that helmet and shield?
@celtictemplar
@celtictemplar Жыл бұрын
Great to see you getting back at it with your weapons Thrand. Just to let you know, I am making you a scale Hood for one of your weapon test or armor test videos. Although due to financial issues of my own, this might take a while to make, but just to let you know this type of armor was mostly used by the time of the third Century crisis it is well that you and used by many type of Calvary forces up until the 1st Crusade. And as well I might end up lending you my Gallowglass Sparth axe, soon after I'm done doing the Gallowglass How To to videos on my own channel.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a spectacular test and video to be made shield brother!
@iamandicristian
@iamandicristian Жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks shield brother
@samnottheotherone4363
@samnottheotherone4363 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rallyl7053
@rallyl7053 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@krellio9006
@krellio9006 Жыл бұрын
That thing is so sharp He can cut that with a single hand
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@michaelkolano8686
@michaelkolano8686 Жыл бұрын
honestly, i only knew the Falx exists because of vintage story. which claims they're preferable for the beasts you fight that are basically zombies full of sludge and have embedded gears and metal in them. regardless of the truth to that, it's interesting to see something you've never heard of before.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Ja the Romans hated it :P
@danhair
@danhair Жыл бұрын
In the Dacian times, the long blade was called a Falx, the shorter blade was called a Sica. Sadly it was not made as wide as the Khukkri. Maybe because the Sica was made to go in a sheath too. It’s strange that they didn’t, they were pretty good metal workers.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Look up the sica I test it as weapon on my channel it preformed very well
@JohnMiller-zr8pl
@JohnMiller-zr8pl Жыл бұрын
I don't know how difficult it would be, if you could put a camera on top or maybe using the ceiling of the shed. And sometimes the audio it can't be heard correctly.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
I don't use the lapel mic I used a go pro lapel mic and it dint work right so had poor quality sound in in this one
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 Жыл бұрын
the Dacian Sica knife seems to be much more similar to the Kukri than the falx
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Ja I have tested the sica on my channel and own one.
@pinarppanrapir9489
@pinarppanrapir9489 Жыл бұрын
You should try a barong. Pointier leaf-shaped blade, kinda reminds me of a kukri.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Closest blade to that against Khurkuri was Neil Burridges Ewart Park bronze age sword cut gambeson well.
@pinarppanrapir9489
@pinarppanrapir9489 Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 I'll watch that one, cheers.
@lostmarimo
@lostmarimo Жыл бұрын
i wonder how big of a difference a kukri is to a knife the same size in various things. Surely it must be harder to make a kukri just from the shape alone so the benefits must be huge over a normal knife. Maybe it's just for the extra hacking power on wood.
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice Жыл бұрын
beleive it or not, the best kukris in the world are made in a mud hut with rusty old leaf springs from Volkswagen lorries
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
ja! very true!
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
It is for the cutting power!
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 theres just something about a well made kukri thats impossible to beat, there just a flawless all rounder does everything and more sort of knife, ive even found comments on youtube talking about how when they couldnt find a hammer they just used there kukri to put nails into wood, and one of the best kukris on the market is pretty much a pry bar with how robust it is (chiruwa ang khola by Himalayan imports, they are so proud of that particular model that if it breaks through a natural flaw, they will send 2 of them for free)
@thetreatment498
@thetreatment498 Жыл бұрын
Falxes and romphaias are one of my favourite blades! Where can I get a good one?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Look up Iamandi Christian on Facebook he makes traditional Dacian blades in Romania.
@thetreatment498
@thetreatment498 Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 Thanks man! I am close to Romania so I am sure that the transportation will be easy too. Love your channel and hope things get better!
@JohnMiller-zr8pl
@JohnMiller-zr8pl Жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ReedCBowman
@ReedCBowman Жыл бұрын
12PM is noon. Do you mean 12am, midnight CST for the streams?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Oops 12 am CST or 1 am CST will fix it in upcoming videos
@demomanchaos
@demomanchaos Жыл бұрын
It is always interesting to see just how gnarly forward curved blades are, and to think they were moved away from almost universally as Rome took power.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
I love those gnarly blades too both these are some of my favorite!
@demomanchaos
@demomanchaos Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 I really wish we could find a smith that could do that Napoleonic Khopesh. Oh, other idea I had was some wooden armor I was working on. I used too crap of base wood but my idea was a wooden lamellar which was slats of wood covered in glued canvas akin to an array of small shields. Didn't hold up great due to the poor choice in wood (just some cheap thin stuff from a local lumberyard), but I wonder if better wood would have helped it hold up.
@HO-bndk
@HO-bndk Жыл бұрын
"...caesim pugnantes non solum facile uicere sed etiam derisere Romani" Vegetius Book 1, XII
@TimpaLinkosling
@TimpaLinkosling 8 ай бұрын
Khukuri, it resembles the name of a Finnish knife: Hukari.
@kevinfogle7929
@kevinfogle7929 Жыл бұрын
More falx, sica, rhomphia
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Ja we need more
@shadowfox3392
@shadowfox3392 Жыл бұрын
Where can I get a Dacian Falx? I want one lol
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Iamandi Christian on Facebook you can reach him there he makes excellent blades. Tell him Thrand sent you.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Plus it is in description under video tell him Thrand sent you
@shadowfox3392
@shadowfox3392 Жыл бұрын
How much did the Dacian Falx cost??
@user-ev2rg2cn5b
@user-ev2rg2cn5b 2 ай бұрын
Аказуется кукри млжет быть опасным оружием
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
Try saying Nepalese kukris 10x fast 😂 Definitely easier than saying Toy Boat repeatedly but still..
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Lol agreed good one
@adrianjagmag
@adrianjagmag Жыл бұрын
Firstly the Khukuri is NOT based on the Kopis or Falcata, we have a continuous use of recurves, both knives and swords. on the Indian subcontinent that lead to the khukuri over a 1000+ years. Please do not keep spreading Eurocentric misinformation. Secondly, Khukuri were definitely used in close range circular stabs to penetrate armour, both Indian mail and mail covered gaps in Char Aina armour. There is even a British period account/source mentioning that khukuri were used to stab and rip out and we are still taught that in Khukuri use today. Do you think the Gorkha were stupid to try to cut through Dhal, overlapping ring mail, Char Aina etc? They fought against armour even just in British service from 1819 to the Indian Mutiny to the Anglo Afghan wars. Hanshee Khukuri have more acute tips for penetration and were used against armour, wider tips developed when the need for that penetration wasn't there. I like your videos usually but this is an apples to pears comparison.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
I plan on coming back with a Khukuri redemption test using a punching thrust I think will pierce the rings. I should not have said based on those other blade the word would be similar!
@georgescg7342
@georgescg7342 Жыл бұрын
if your blade gets stuck on the shield you are dead, there is no point in testing shield penetration.
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Agreed I have demonstrated that many times in my videos but Roman accounts state the Falx would do this and still wound the scutum or shieldman. That is why they added metal rim to top of shield by legend is why I tested it in the past.
@jothegreek
@jothegreek Жыл бұрын
Α bit irrelevant I was trying to unterstand why greeks used the kopis or falcata in the greek hoplite warfare any ideas?
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
More cutting ability and more axe like a little more reach around and over shields but can still thrust with a large wound like a gladius.
@jothegreek
@jothegreek Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 The axe thing was also a thing with VIkings and Later byzantine infantry maybe because of barbarization used axes too. So i guess with shield walls and spears cutting weapons was a thing.
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
I think of Nepalese kukris as tools that get used as weapons. But some kukri are built from the ground up as weapons; like certain Indian kukri. Here's a few examples: 2.bp.blogspot.com/-4fxN_x_p9Ww/T3MtiTwT-cI/AAAAAAAAAG4/wcufXSOSnww/s1600/kukri1-761165.jpg The middle kukri encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGq_MRzA-HQGsYO0Lpn5yRqoE1N2C8LIwM0Q&usqp=CAU And this example with simplier hilt encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvolea-hhOglQ-Mzv_EM6xNsciZpyAo-dm-A&usqp=CAU
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for links will check them out
@Thrand11
@Thrand11 Жыл бұрын
Love the knuckle guarded one most certainly a weapon design
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
@@Thrand11 I agree I really like the style of it.
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