Daemons of Chaos vs High Elves Warhammer Armies Project Battle Report

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@christianpedersen5584
@christianpedersen5584 2 жыл бұрын
Steve: Makes every single insane charge. Cullen: REEEE
@glasscannon1815
@glasscannon1815 2 жыл бұрын
Stee(R)EEEEEEVE!
@wheniherpimostdefine
@wheniherpimostdefine 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to say Steve and Cullen thank you for introducing me, a long time MWG fan, to Warhammer fantasy through WAP on here. It has completed converted my 9 (mainly) 40k group from sigmar and our foolish round bases to this game and we are obsessed. As 9+ year wargaming veterans we gotta say this might be the best game we never played. We have been playing every week for a month and a half over 9th Ed 40k. This trend will likely continue at least till next year. Again thank you guys.
@lukerawlek5738
@lukerawlek5738 2 жыл бұрын
Ŕrrr66rrsawwtswwwa³¾⁴
@malcolmkneller5631
@malcolmkneller5631 2 жыл бұрын
Breath Weapons in CC are used instead of the model's regular attacks. WAP Rulebook pg 72. It can still Stomp and breath though.
@suddenpe
@suddenpe 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have missed reading the full description for Steadfast. Page 60, 2nd paragraph under Steadfast calls out that you need to have a minimum US of 10. This means that the Archers charged by the Beast of Nurgle in the later stages of the game would have fled after losing the combat! I think there was at some other point during the game but that's the only one I could remember.
@nicolascharron1186
@nicolascharron1186 2 жыл бұрын
Same little error as the TK vs VC batrep, but monstrous cavalry are US4 not 3 Also after the first round of battle the white lions were S5 only
@lorenzofiori2710
@lorenzofiori2710 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you guys are on a roll! Deamons should have had 4+ save in the first turn ;)
@Grom_the_Paunch
@Grom_the_Paunch 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't make much difference. Only the Nurglings rolled 4's and they were paste anyway.
@lorenzofiori2710
@lorenzofiori2710 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grom_the_Paunch And the daemon prince too if I recall
@runeh3022
@runeh3022 2 жыл бұрын
HE/WE shooting in particular can be rough, as they for some reason have AP and in some cases even S4++ (bows of averlorn). A 30" reach, double firepower, no long range penalty, with infantry also having shorter charge ranges than 8ed is quite potent. That 30" reach with that hitting power is quite substantial, as you can start raining down arrows at your enemy from turn 1, regardless who starts the game and it can also net you an extra round of shooting before any potential close combat. I'd love to see Elven Bows lose AP because of their range, or at least only let them benefit from AP at max-half range, as I think the HE/WE armies benefit just a little bit too much from their new-found bow power.
@paimonpress6760
@paimonpress6760 2 жыл бұрын
Longbows should gain AP at long range
@runeh3022
@runeh3022 2 жыл бұрын
@@paimonpress6760 How do you figure that would be good for the game or make sense? Arrows loose a fair bit of velocity after some distance due to how light they are, the feathers that slow them down etc. Granting Long Bows AP would just encourage more static missile spam type of gameplay. Bretonnia would become even better... :-P
@duncanrskinner
@duncanrskinner 2 жыл бұрын
Steve was also throwing too many dice at spells. It's 4 dice for lvl 2 wizard + 1 for reckless, not 5+1. E1: Also, you're only stubborn if you're US is 10+ and you have a rank of 5 or more (for the archers)
@Tymachos
@Tymachos 2 жыл бұрын
That's the usual microcheat. ;)
@andrewkinas6795
@andrewkinas6795 2 жыл бұрын
Cullen - When you run Empire next max out your core with handgunners and pistoliers and dump all your other points into Reiksguard on foot with the stubborn/unbreakable banner (give them a warrior priest with MR and a BSB on foot) to be your anvil, Knights Panther (inner circle) with a Runefang General, and Hellblaster. Take a Lord level Heavens lord with Book of Ashur to get loremaster. Handgunners + HVG = shoot everything Pistoliers = Shoot +get in the way Reiksguard = Unbreakable Anvil with 2+/6++ (2+/4++ in CC with warrior preist buff), Hatred, and Cold Blooded / Hold the Line (less critical b/c your unbreakable but still) Knights = Hammer General = Kill scary stuff Wizard = Comet every turn and hold the line.... Steve rolls like a maniac....take away his 6's with curse of the midnight wind. You roll 1's like it's going out of style so you should cast the re-roll 1's spell. The lore attribute for Heavens gives you a 4+ chance to re-roll a dice on "to-hits" OR casting value which should help you with Miscasts / rolling 1's on things like chain lightening.
@Tymachos
@Tymachos 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the same idea with the Reiksguard. But I'm sure it doesn't work, because the rule for Unbreakable reads, that only characters that are also Unbreakable may join units that are Unbreakable, even if they are made temporary Unbreakable through any reason (this would be the case with the Banner of Sigismund). A Warrior Priest and a BSB are not Unbreakable, so they can't join the unit. But you can still take Reiksguard Knights on horse and on foot. So the footknights can be Unbreakable and the riders arel Stubborn, buffed with a Warrior Priest and a General (or maybe the Reiksmarshall himself). Ah, I love the Reiksguard!
@HankGlamorous
@HankGlamorous 2 жыл бұрын
did you forget your +1 to daemon saves from the winds in round one?
@tassadarc8069
@tassadarc8069 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like they did, yeah.
@dukearioch8432
@dukearioch8432 2 жыл бұрын
He definitely forgot the 4+ ward in turn 1, also I think the nurglings would have closed to the dragon knights if I'm not mistaken since 2 bases is such a low US. Beasts of Nurgle have regen 4+. Also didn't Cullen take the banner of eternal virulence? His 6's to wound should have been double combat rez.
@rosscollier1
@rosscollier1 2 жыл бұрын
Promise I wont fall asleep during this one!
@detorrV2
@detorrV2 2 жыл бұрын
The Demon prince has 5W so he would still be able to hide behind the trees or behind the soulgrinder, wich maybe it is necesary to protect it during the fist 2 turns. Instead of screening with chaff units use forests or monsters. If the deployment allows it ofc.
@Kloerb
@Kloerb 2 жыл бұрын
I remember bringing a warshrine purely as cover for my prince. Good times!
@oukt237
@oukt237 2 жыл бұрын
Nice report! Thanks for that:)
@VaneHartless473
@VaneHartless473 2 жыл бұрын
Plague drones were on 50x75's. Plague drone pursue is all 3d6(so is charge, despite hover because monstrous cav), cullen tilted and removed 4 times as many plaguebearers in chariot combat. Beasts of Chaos have a unit strength of 3: only monsters/chariots are by starting wounds also the Prince can not only hide from LoS behind forests bc unit strength 5, it and the soul grinder can get heavy cover if the beasts or drones are in front because unit strength 3. shooting is probably not as deadly against armies that got access to better armor and shields. 6pt skeletons warriors with a 3+ save against bows seem a lot better than a 12pt daemon for a 5+ ward.
@Krubbe
@Krubbe 2 жыл бұрын
There's plenty of missile defence items to take if you're afraid of shooting
@skipgiblets
@skipgiblets 2 жыл бұрын
Just started watching, excited to see this
@ArchaonDKz
@ArchaonDKz 2 жыл бұрын
Best Cyber Hunter content on YT!
@Silbob5
@Silbob5 2 жыл бұрын
@Cullen, DIOBOLIC SPLENDOUR lets you reroll failed ward saves. This is only 15pts, and is absolutely necessary on all large target characters
@627hjc
@627hjc 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting patiently for High Elves!! Very excited, cant wait for more WAP... games
@glasscannon1815
@glasscannon1815 2 жыл бұрын
That's one haggard Nurgle army. Thankfully its Nurgle so it works.
@nickquin908
@nickquin908 2 жыл бұрын
I was just looking for something decent to watch and lo your bat rep comes up, huzzah!
@fhatt6637
@fhatt6637 2 жыл бұрын
Great job guys
@bifidusrcp
@bifidusrcp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping Warhammer Fantasy alive!! Would you recommend the Armies Project 9th ed. for a newcomer or any other edition of the original game??
@bifidusrcp
@bifidusrcp 2 жыл бұрын
@@WWardancer Thanks mate 😉👍
@Namatheros
@Namatheros 2 жыл бұрын
Yay im glad to see high elves!!
@flammablehero6529
@flammablehero6529 2 жыл бұрын
Page 15, Characteristics of Zero - "If at any time a model's Strength, Toughness or Wounds are reduced to 0 or less by magic or a special rule, it is slain and removed from play." Curse of the Leper would have killed those Dragon Princes outright.
@ThePaintedHope
@ThePaintedHope 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, curse of the Leper states that "If Curse of the Leper isCaston an enemy unit, it is aHexspell that reduces the target unit'sToughnessby D3(to a minimum of 1)". So it never goes below 1
@detorrV2
@detorrV2 2 жыл бұрын
i cant think of any spell or rule that can actually reduce S or T to 0. It is always limited to 1.
@flammablehero6529
@flammablehero6529 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePaintedHope That makes more sense. I’m not as familiar with the DOC army book. Certainly would make that spell superpowered in that wasn’t the case.
@Connordaboss45
@Connordaboss45 2 жыл бұрын
Would the fly riders get impact attacks on the knights when they charged?
@weberusmaximus1316
@weberusmaximus1316 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Please correct me if I am wrong but FORESTS AND LINE OF SIGHT. Page 117 For line of sight purposes, a forest (..............) Models in or behind forests CANNOT be see or be seen by them if there is more than 5" of forest between them and the enemy. thus, you can by all means hide a monster behind a forest if it is just 5 inches wide. Greetings
@MountainMiniatures
@MountainMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
Unit strength still applies. US of a forest is 5
@Grom_the_Paunch
@Grom_the_Paunch 2 жыл бұрын
@@MountainMiniatures rules as written I would agree with OP, 'For Line of Sight purposes, a forest up to 5" in height counts as Unit Strength 5. Forests taller than 5" counts as Unit Strength 10. Models in or behind forests cannot see or be seen through it if there is more than 5" of forest between them and the enemy.' p.117. This appears to contradict the unit strength quote in 'line of sight' on p.14
@kingjshgrumpy5481
@kingjshgrumpy5481 2 жыл бұрын
always enjoy it good fantasy battle
@Matti_Mattsen
@Matti_Mattsen 2 жыл бұрын
i've never seen Cullen so salty :D great game
@MrHollywood1717
@MrHollywood1717 2 жыл бұрын
Wizard level + 2 for power dice you can put into a spell. Level 2 wizard can only throw max 4 dice base.
@tomyorke3412
@tomyorke3412 2 жыл бұрын
Do enjoy watching the banta you have
@theeverydaythinker6310
@theeverydaythinker6310 2 жыл бұрын
Dang some of those chaos models looks rough, with missing horns and limbs, they are definatly old. But i like that rough around the edges look they have, reminds me of old fantasy artwork
@seanhiggins8549
@seanhiggins8549 2 жыл бұрын
Which is easier to find games for at this time? Wap or eight edition?
@duncanrskinner
@duncanrskinner 2 жыл бұрын
Unlesl white lions have an additional rule, the +2 STR for great weapons is only the 1st round of combat. It's +1 for the subsequent ones.
@ignacio4159
@ignacio4159 2 жыл бұрын
That was for cavalry spears on the charge.
@Watcher-in-the-Dark
@Watcher-in-the-Dark 2 жыл бұрын
@@ignacio4159 What they said is true about Great Weapons.
@Chris_da_Waaagh
@Chris_da_Waaagh 2 жыл бұрын
Bit of a weird one but what battlemat is that?
@andrewrockwell1282
@andrewrockwell1282 8 ай бұрын
Long live fantasy battle!
@bruce8108
@bruce8108 2 жыл бұрын
Haha so funny the reactions
@TheFGS
@TheFGS 2 жыл бұрын
Can the Dragonmage have 3 spells as a lvl 2 ?
@deathmachine777
@deathmachine777 Жыл бұрын
Miss Cullen playing Steve
@TheLovelyMedusa
@TheLovelyMedusa 2 жыл бұрын
Any hope for getting some Slaanesh on the table?
@happpyturtle2424
@happpyturtle2424 2 жыл бұрын
Stinkies vs fancies
@WrathRuin
@WrathRuin 2 жыл бұрын
Some WAP whilst editing STL files ready for printing? Don't mind if I do!!
@sideburnchef4957
@sideburnchef4957 2 жыл бұрын
Hah, me too. Printing out Gaslands terrain and a human fetus 😁🙄
@WrathRuin
@WrathRuin 2 жыл бұрын
@@sideburnchef4957 Now that's something a little different 😆. I'm sorting out a load of tanks and mechs for Battletech.
@Watcher-in-the-Dark
@Watcher-in-the-Dark 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the General didn't die til like the very end when your whole army was cut down anyway. I don't think the General is the issue here. Can be, but didn't seem to be this time. I think simply Steve had all the strong mobility. Nurgle walked up slowly and let Steve have complete control over how the fights were chosen. I think the army needs to go wider if you're going to be as slow. Along with hide your General behind another unit of same or larger Unit Strength if their is shooting if you can. I don't think the build was very solid against Steves mobility and that is what hurt this Nurgle Army more than anything in my personal opinion.
@connorlucas5035
@connorlucas5035 2 жыл бұрын
What is armies kf warhammer
@tddybear3324
@tddybear3324 2 жыл бұрын
i can never unsee the smiley face in the wrinkles on Steve's forehead.....
@durnin101
@durnin101 2 жыл бұрын
2nd rd of combat i go strength 16!! 😂😂
@andrewkinas6795
@andrewkinas6795 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cullen. I am also bad at rolling dice and it makes me sad. You're my bad dice rolling brother from another mother.... hang in there dude, I'd tell you it gets better but I'd be lying :(
@YohanPlaine
@YohanPlaine 2 жыл бұрын
❤Warhammer Fantasy Battles❤
@CatWithAHat2HD
@CatWithAHat2HD 2 жыл бұрын
For the YT gods.
@lindagoad2163
@lindagoad2163 2 жыл бұрын
Cullen have you been out brawling?
@imalu5757
@imalu5757 2 жыл бұрын
Is Steve that banned from technology know Cullen has to do all the camera work
@zboson
@zboson 2 жыл бұрын
How old are these nurglings? They look older then the game...
@KyleMiddleton7
@KyleMiddleton7 2 жыл бұрын
I am engaged
@williaminnes6635
@williaminnes6635 2 жыл бұрын
algorithm
@andrewgardner105
@andrewgardner105 2 жыл бұрын
Triggered
@philiphealy6415
@philiphealy6415 2 жыл бұрын
Engage!
@jonadaya
@jonadaya 2 жыл бұрын
always bring a BsB with Daemons!
@jonadaya
@jonadaya 2 жыл бұрын
it on average takes 160 bow shots (when hitting on 4+) to kill the daemon prince, the problem is Steve's luck and Cullen's bad luck :P (also, always bring diabolic splendour on a big daemon)
@jonadaya
@jonadaya 2 жыл бұрын
I do recommend you "upgrade" to 2500 points, its the standard at least here in Sweden ;)
@TeutonicKnight92
@TeutonicKnight92 2 жыл бұрын
comment for comment god
@scoe5908
@scoe5908 2 жыл бұрын
69th like. *Nice*
@stethespaniard2
@stethespaniard2 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it doesn’t matter if you like or dislike or leave a comment. It’s all the same. Positive attention means the same promotion as negative
@Watcher-in-the-Dark
@Watcher-in-the-Dark 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn't make any sense at all lol.
@stethespaniard2
@stethespaniard2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Watcher-in-the-Dark I know but apparently the context of the attention a video gets doesn’t matter
@MountainMiniatures
@MountainMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
@@stethespaniard2 That is very incorrect.
@Watcher-in-the-Dark
@Watcher-in-the-Dark 2 жыл бұрын
@@stethespaniard2 Thats just not true like where did you get that idea??
@knalpot1
@knalpot1 2 жыл бұрын
I can't figure out why but i have very little interest in WAP battle reports. 8th ed i love but WAP is very bland to me. Maybe its because i never fell head over heels in love with 6th ed like all the rest of the ancient fucks growing lichen in their skin flaps around here 😉 Glad you've found something you like Steve but it doesn't get my juices flowing.
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