I hope that you can get stuck in the field when it is wet and raining

​@diarmuidboyce829 you get that now in 22??

@@matthewmichaud8393 no?? well with mods yes but base game no

Have seen a screenshot for the deformation and it's probably better described as ground compaction where the wheels go. Also, with the new AI worker, I noticed that on the shorter strip, rather than attempting to turn around for the next row, it backed up on itself and went in the same direction again which indicates that it uses path finding to avoid obstacles & to use shorter routes

@@TwiztedMemoriez it does seem like this method could waste alot of fuel/fertilizer/seed if there is a tree island/peninsulars in a field. they havent shown any complicated shapes that i wouldnt already trust a worker with after a headland. so lets see how smart it really is when its on *insert european mod map*

I saw that too. Nice detail

Oh yeh cool! Love the little things. Good spotting

Yeh looks like a good improvment where it drops one side down before the other. Looks to be a more natural / realistic mechanic. Giving the immersion of a bit of flex. And also looks like it moves around a bit more independant of the fixed up or down position it would normally have in 22..

​you realy feel the weight of that header

@@JoeCurd if you watch when they stop cutting one half of the header feeds quicker just thought it was cool

I have a hunch that the fog is the way they want to optimise the game, by lowering the view distance. As the fog getting thicker the more they can reduce, texture size and tesselation and swapp to lower LODs on many objects. So the fog is most likely gonna be there all the time. They might have adjusted the intensity, to serv the visuals besides performance gains, but I feel like we're gonna be farming in a sauna booth :(

Yeah it looks weird but maybe it is the place and what they want to show, because other places shouldn't have this amount of fog.

@@viktorb2688 That is 1990s game programming logic. That would not be the way to go, and would be much too much a hard hammer for "performance" gains in today's computing age. I think the fog is there regardless of the time of day or month or season to do just that: show off the volumetric fog functions.

@@TheGremalin Sure, showing of too. But many games do that, ispecially games where the map allows for really long distance viewing, if they want to mitigate the culling of the objects in the distance. Sure many use different solutions, but mainly because they can do it. If you have a quite heavy poly count on your objects and you have a whole lot of them and you don’t want them to pop in and out of existence as you get far enough, you need to mask that popping somehow. Because at a certain point you cannot go lower with the LODs. Also in FS22 there’s a very small radius where there’s a quite heavy LODing happening. Also trees in the distance just simply disappearing as you get further from them. Sure using insane amounts of fog to cover up distant objects is a ‘90s thing, it is still viable to this day. True mostly to cover up very low res and small level of detail textures and smaller LOD mesh issues. So yes, it’s there to hep the lower end devices and consoles when it comes to far distance objects. But it is also there to give atmosphere. And someone really likes it apparently at Giants.

@@viktorb2688 used to do that. nowadays the view distance developers have access to with the video cards adn ram levels, fog doesn't make as much sense as pre-rendered skyboxes and the like. the industry has moved on. also in the following showcase video Daggerwin posted, it shows a slide saying just this: THat it is to show off the fog features, but that they will be weather and time of day dependent.

Yes. This was my no1 hope for fs25, but nope.

And the map feels lifeless. I will like to see the A.I. working and interact with each other.

not many new features that don't already exist and are currently used by modders. flooding fields is the only one I saw. but Oxygen Daves maps are going to be off the chain.

well, did you see the latest slides from them t farm con? the deformable ground looks like an incredible addition.

Tracks in the cut grass.....that never happened to me.....that sucks, really.

​@@edwardkay yeah i just saw that, but I think its a cheap implementation and an excuse that they just last for a limited time, they say that the tech takes memory to load the changes and would be impossible to be permanent, but I dont think that was a problem in games like spintires/mudrunner or cattle & crops, idk whats the problem for fs. With ground deformation we also wanted plows to tip the soil in real time, potholes to be filled with rain, rain creating mud that get vehicles stuck, be able to dig ground...

@pepebenalua yeah, they certainly didn't do as much as I wanted but it's a start. Maybe for fs35 they'll do it better😂

I'd just about bet we still have that gorgeous LOD/render ring a couple hundred yards out.

They said the ai will register any field if it's base map mod map or created field

That is indeed how it will work, as mentioned by Andrejsscott6777.

@@andrejsscott6777 I wanna see it work before I believe that :D But that would be great, better AI has been my biggest wish forever

They said it would in an interview

Man, please don't fool yourself.. We didn't get seasons until the 13th version, and we still have an LOD ring in 22. Just sayin... And registering a field is a different thing than actually completing the field properly(so good).. Entirely different.

Well my friend, that is a good wish. But I beleive until Giants completely overhauls their engine and many of the components (which they don't really seem to be doing) we won't see any proper ground deformation (by vehicles, or by build tools) nor texture painting with at least higher resolution, nor any sort of crop being planted where the planter heads are. It also somewhat ties to the terrain resolution I beleive and they just didn't bother to change that system.

@viktorb2688 That's sad when you think of it. The company goal is to have more players playing the game if they put all of the simple things in game like ( GPS, manual attachment, working terminals in cab,ground deformation and many more ) eaven if it won't work 100% with no problem they could learn from the mistakes and do it better in the newer fs . Just look at the other games and how some of them are progressing when you play it it's like mind-blowing. Like RDR2, that game has some unbelievable things, eaven on ps4. Or Dayz from the release date till now, the game is on a different level

That's what was announced it will be a new feature coming

Yeah everything is static indeed, just take a look at 16:10 The tires clip through the grass row instead of squashing or moving it, it maintained the same form. They won't work into interactive system, visible npc working on their fields, realistic breakdowns, realistic physics that feels the weight of things instead of feeling like toys... To get any of that or any type of dynamic ground it's gona be them injecting whatever mod people made, they don't seem to care develop any hard technology. Rice flooding is pretty much a different version of animal waterers, consumables is a cheap technology to show anything new beign developed for the new game.

@@pepebenalua i missed your comment. I think they are on their way to working on other farms working in fields with the worker update. there would be no way for them to do it if they got lost half the time. well they "could" predetermine the paths 100% but that would be static aswell. the progress they are doing with worker inteligence is the right step to that kinda realism. The dynamic ground i imagine is a mesh (square of triangles) that is fines that the map itself that wont effect the map itself and work just like tiremarks but a mesh instead of decals like today. (this would be working exactly like theres a mesh for precision farming that determines soil type) Consumables is just adding to a system thats already there (silage additive) with a force to stop line on if empty. i hope that they do realise something is wrong with dev time for gameplay iterations

this is amazing if true. I would love for the gps to create its own routes and run them. so much less work.

You mean GamerGrannyTana. I would say what she deducted was spot on.

@@TheFrogrjb yeah. The water is nice. The wet tires are nice. But the way the tractor moved around on bumps and was not 'in mud' was a bit off. It's a nice step for sure nevertheless.

Better be careful with all that pragmatism.

@@Caennuck it's a game, nothing of this is real. As I understand, it's 12.5cm of 'space' to create the impression of 'impact' of tires. Definitely more immersive, and indeed there is a lot more scope for more. I'm happy to get this anyway.

@@MaartenRobijn Its a sim game. Apologies if I am tired of being drip fed 10 year old visual effects rather than new mechanics.

@@Caennuck Yeah, I understand that feeling. There is a lot more potential, for sure. On the other hand, they give us crossplay compatiblity + crossplay multiplayer, something most AAA-titles don't. And the platform that enables so much modders to bring mods (daily/weekly), which you don't get in many games.

@@efritz7 How does that boot taste?

pretty much.. I'm not impressed with the "Gps" so far.

Careful. Our community seems to hate this form of pragmatism.

This is exactly what they have done for the last 2 games.. there game engine is rubbish, like really bad, they should have moved on from it in fs22, but here we are and obviously there still continuing to use it.. expect the same ground handling, bale physics etc...

@@petrokemikal You think we'll get a better LOD distance? I really could get over all the square grass edges, but that ring has just killed it for me the last few attempts to play..

when the swath is wide enough youre suppose to use a forrage harvester with a wide pickup. with that said modders often overcompensate this by making pickups work wider than they should. pickups not working sometimes is just giants engine being giants engine

@@minio585 But i want bales and thats not how it works in in real life. Its just stupid game programming that has never been fixed by the Devs. I should not have to modify my game to make it work either.

@@lobster8009 im unsure if the fill maths are correct for the density for swaths (if they need to be bigger or smaller for the litres) so i cant say anything about it but i havent seen 0.8m tall swaths in balers irl before? So my guess would be too big of a windrower for making bales.. with the 12 meter ones it usually fits into normal balers with max yield anyway. Edit: i would lean grass to be bigger than it should be as some windrowers get high in the air when taking in its full length (lizard trailed windrower) and end up not picking up. But end of the day remember the pickup on the balers Arent super tall so stacking a super wide swath would also be tall and your tractor would snowplow it irl. Consider taking a smaller windrower and make more rows with the new ai worker

pretty sure it's confirmed that it will work with custom fields, so it will work fine on modded maps

I just want circle track

I wonder if each field will have preset gps tracks for each vehicle.

Indeed, they wait for modders to get the work done for them and add them into the new game like if they were developing them.

No 3td person, missing so many great communities

I didn't hear the clock, I'm guessing you're using earphones?

@@mightymushroom4980 I was using earphone :)

@@mightymushroom4980 I was on speakers. Still heard it. And I'm old.

@@jamiecarroll7381 in an FAQ session with content creators, it has been stated that Giants made 2x maps for FS25.

Agreed! Also would be nice to finally have a photo/Camara mode is FS as well. Games like ATS/ETS2 have it ...why not FS? I hate taking screenshots, as it always shows the HUD/display ...here's hoping maybe one day.

With the new engine hopefully they've worked it all out. There was talk of alot more optimisation with the graphics as they've added alot graphically demanding features.

@@andrejsscott6777 I hope so. Less than 200 hours in FS22 as I just couldn’t stand it. Tried everything to fix it but with a ryzen 9 and 4090 it shouldn’t happen. I won’t be preordering in the hope that there is some improvements to be seen

@@toadintheh0le I run a Ryzen 5 5600x and a 3060ti at 1440p high settings without any stutters. It's not the game.

@@fs_dave It is the game. Go to Giants forums and you see people mentioning stutters with a 4090 s and 5800X3D s

It’s interesting that they added this, no one does it anymore at least around my area. Everything is straight cut headers now.

I didn't do any pallet work on console until auto loaders appeared. I gave it a few tries manually, but it was abysmal.

I mean you should be able to pull up along side a pallet and press a button for thing like planters so it shouldn’t be to bad though I give it 4 days after release for someone to code in an auto loading mod

I always use liftable pallets mod for base game stuff hopefully it comes to 25 pretty soon otherwise you spend half your playtime just moving pallets

Use an Autoload trailer and bring the bales/pallets to it. Fixes my OCD

Agreed. I'll be more than happy plugging away on FS22 until there are decent maps and mods available for FS25.

Alot of new sound effects I noticed the front loader as well very nice!

It’s just you

@@restwellcloud-ix8ee as others mentioned here, it's obviously not only me

Giants is 5 years behind with the swather