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The fact that you get shitty stealth armor in exchange for giving up any thief's wet-dream, a lock-pick that cannot be broken is proof the Thieve's guild do not honor the house unmourned.

I find it funny how Nocturnal herself gives you the skeleton key in Oblivion for doing a mundane task for her.

I always imagine Nerevar is just chilling at Lord Dagoths Urs place playing some elder scrolls, then Lord Dagoth just ends up giving a full-blown sermon on whatever he's doing

You forgot to mention that being an unbreakable lockpick is just the most basic power of the key, the developers weren't willing to give us access to all the cool things Mercer Frey did with it like unlocking locks that didn't even have a key hole or getting into semantic super power nonsense by using it to 'unlock' his own potential and thereby get some neat things like super strength.

"Come Nerevar, come." "What a grand and intoxicating innocence." My two favorite lines.

The mages guild was tragic. Your "reward" is endless cleanup duty repeating quests....That's right! Latrine duty across Skyrim is the role of the Arch-Mage. Unclogging energy toilets (portals) and cleaning up hardened balls of ectoplasm that somehow are the highest level enemies in the game...What a grand and intoxicating innocence.

Every time I restart a Skyrim playthrough, I go to Riften and ask the elf at the meadery about Maven Blackbriar (do this like 600 times and your speech will be 100)

Favorite quest reward in Skyrim, 500 Septims for every single East Empire Pendent, there's a lot of them and they respawn in areas you have to keep passing through. Least favorite quest reward, the 2 Septims from the Battle Born boy for getting Braith to leave him alone... Absolute best quest reward from any faction, getting paid to beat the hell out of Nazim by the Companions. Getting money for doing something you want to do for free and not incurring a bounty, priceless.

This sermon is perfect to go along with my serving of ash yam and sujamma. Glory to House Dagoth!

I'm a simple man: I hear the sermons of Lord Dagoth Ur and I proceed to honor the sixth house and the tribe unmourned

“How can you bribe a god?” 😂

You can actually access the Blades rewards before the Paarthunax dilemma comes up. All you have to do is give 3 followers to the Blades. I prefer Erik the Slayer, Benor, and Uthgurd. Lydia is bae, don’t give her up. All of them specialize in heavy armor, which means the Blade armor is really good for them. Then, Esbern sends you to get a single dragon scale and bone. Then he makes a potion for you to drink. It grants a PERMANENT 25% defense buff to Dragon melee attacks. Spellbreaker can do wonders for breath attacks.

Not sure why im appearently the only one that remembers this but you do jot exchange the skeleton key for nightingale armor. You get the armor before even going after the key. You get both. In exchange for the key you get some mediocre powers youll never use.

My least favorite Elder Scrolls reward is the Ring of Azura because acquiring it required me to come as a traitor, rather than as a friend, defeat Dagoth Ur (who I wanted to join) and dishonor the Sixth House and The Tribe Unmourned.

Least favorite Quest reward? The random junk from the Lights Out quest. I got scammed by the filthy farmtool and his sister. I wish it had the option to turn him into the guards

"Or maybe it got sent back from the future." and proceeds to show an image of Pelinal. I see what you did there.

Deepest apologies, Dagoth Ur.

The worst one is you collecting 24 strange stones of baranziah to get some crap boost to finding jewels.

Prehaps the real faction rewards was the loot I sold along the way ?

Everyone knows that the best faction questline comes from siding with the reiklings for thirsk mead hall

Thank you once again for the sermon, Lord Dagoth Ur. Your new sermon truly does honor the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned!

Dagoth going through his Emil hate era 💅

I love how excited Dagoth got when he said "My mask is the reward, my mask!"

Dagoth Ur : Tortellini Me: 💀

"The Sixth House is risen and lord Dagoth is its glory!"

Least favorite quest reward: Gold.

1. Lockpicking perks? Never wasted a point on one. Picks are cheap and abundant, and I (the player) have become *VERY* good at the minigame. The Batman suit does look good, but I can enchant better gear myself. And Prowler's Profit? Comes WAY too late to be of any real use, even if you do choose to chase the shinies. 2. The Archmage's bed only provides a "Rested" bonus. You'd do better to drop ten Septims down at the Frozen Hearth. As is, I usually just sleep in my convenient old bed in the Hall of Attainment. 3. You do get Astrid's ride, Shadowmere, but I prefer Arvak from Dawnguard. Less edgy, more convenient. 4. Wuuthrad is another weapon which, even if I chose to use two handed, I could enchant better than. 5. Let's not forget Esbern's "Dragon Slaying Blessing," hardly worth the effort, even if he wasn't perched atop an inaccessible mountain in the middle of nowhere like a... dragon. 6. "What do you need, bard?" Ah, the sweet song of recognition. 7. I got nothing. Never seen this one. 8. But, puppies! 9. Love how the new "Lord of Volkihar" is still just a flunky to send on fetch quests and hit jobs. Do I heard vampires chuckling into their sleeves as I leave to kill some wandering Bard? 10. You DO get the satisfaction of stomping a mudhole in the leaders of whichever faction you have convinced yourself to hate, even though it takes some repetitive and annoying missions (including some deeply annoying backtracking from hidden camp to target location and back, again and again) to earn that right... All in all, it seems like the best rewards are the friends we m- Oh, wait, that's not it. The money? A journeyman alchemist can churn out money to make a Jarl blush. Respect? Don't make me laugh. Nah. I do it for the giggles. =^[.]^=

The thing is the skeleton key is worse because you get EVERYTHING except the necklace BEFORE you turn in the damned key!

(3:00) You don't even have to kill Astrid either; with a maxed-out Pickpocket skill, you can easily take her BOW in that mission, and she'll reward you with a second one when that separate mission comes around, which nets you _two_ BOWs. If you spec into Destruction and use some Fortify Destruction enchants, those daggers become incredibly powerful and viable late-game... but I digress. Oh, and you forgot about the Arch-Mage's Robes Lord Dagoth. As a God and the leader of the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned, I thought you would've remembered them lol.

I really like this format for game critique, keep up the good work!

Emil Palo Alto must've been on skooma when writing these faction story lines because he forgot to write in any good rewards!

At least the Dark Brotherhood pays good. Can't say the same about virtually any of the others.

I have inscribed on the parchment down below. I also raised my thumb 👍

if you use the staff of magnus on a dragon it will absorb his magicka in just 1 second wich that means they can't use dragon breath anymore. Also you get a quest from Feran Sadri that gives you 2 rings that improve your magic and healt in 100 points

You also get the best horse in the game, Shadowmear for doing the Dark Brotherhood quests.

*giggle* I'm actually FINALLY getting around to making a stealth archer :D also my Dunmer is a bard. I have a blast!

You also get the horse from the dark brotherhood that can be spawned whenever

Tortellini does not know how to honor the 6th house.

I wonder, how would Lord Dagoth Ur reward us for honoring the house un mourned? What would that quest reward look like? I'm interested in in honoring the house un mourned after all.

Very interesting video Dagoth -Dagoth Ur

I do like the Nightingale armor, if I could grab that and run with the skeleton key, never needing to worry about lockpicks, that'd be great. Staves probably had some use before magic was dropped in the dumpster, but any weapon that needs to be charged is a pain so screw the college you can become archmage at in an afternoon. Dark Brotherhood isn't too bad a quest, don't really care about the dagger but a decent drop of money and repeated quests if you care about that. The reward is just the friends who got burned along the way. Screw the fighter questline, don't want to be a werewolf. You'd think an axe effective against half the races on the continent would be better, even if you picked it up at the start of the game. Blades dragon hunting sounds like a waste when you can just find dragons and get overloaded with their bones and scales any day. Free Paarthurnax Bard is fucking useless but I agree the reward isn't too bad. And all it cost is your self respect. Dagoth Ur's mask sounds neat but damn it feels disrespectful any way to try to shove it in. Dawnguard feels like just a side story to fight vampires or become the vampire lord. Civil War is just such a basic story, the only real reward is skipping the peace meeting in the main story which honestly would have taken less work to make that part more interesting.

What's with the fancy ass transitions, Lord Dagoth?

I'm deeply sorry for the inconvenience, my lord. Please, accept my apology in the honor of the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned

It'd be fun to hear a narration of a Baldur'sGate playthrough as Astarion as if Lord Dagoth were playing the game.

The staff of Magnus does have a perk: Anti-wyvern warfare. For whatever reason, the wyverns run off magic, same as any mage, so you can stop them from ever shouting by keeping them devoid of magic.

Nightweavers Band is a pretty good ring early on at least. Most of the extra/optional loot from the Dark Brotherhood questlines have been worth grabbing since Oblivion.

Honestly that Amulet of Chadiculation is super duper useful

This sermon was most excellent, and honors the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned. Lord Dagoth, i sincerely pray to you for a sermon that ranks all the spells made available in Skyrim: Anniversary Edition and how they categorically cannot honor the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned.

Thieves Guild is the best. You get the skeleton key _after_ the cool armour and equipment. The only things you get from giving up the key are a once-per-day power and a chance to see Nocturnal's double-Dagoths. So just... complete everything up to that point and keep the key for yourself.

The Amulet of Articulation is rather nice, and the *starting* armor sets for Thieves and Dark Brotherhood aren't that bad... until level 20 or so. Skyforge Steel weapons are useless. Just grab a scimitar instead. Or Dawnbreaker or the Mace of Molag. More Daedric stuff: The Sanguine Rose and Azura's Star are quite nice, as is Spellbreaker. The latter two are useful forever. Oh and grab a Paralysis staff from Snapleg Cave. Hermaeus Mora is all good all day, though. I also recommend leading Delphine on by feeding her Markarth followers - and Golldir - until Esbern gives you the Potion of 25% Damage Resist for Dragons

It took me over 5 years to return the skeleton key. I then reloaded a save cause I just wanted to get the trophy on my PS3. No way was I giving up something that good!

THERE'S A QUEST TO JOIN THE TRIBUNAL?! HOW?! I WANT TO TRY IT OUT!

Always thought that the Kill Paarthurnax was a major missed opportunity. Should have opened up a blades-only questline where you re-develop the organization and grapple with the Thalmor (a questline with a plot, not just bring followers and give them armor)

Staff of magnus pretty goated on mage build ngl

I'll back up the Skeleton key decision. It fits that a legendary thief such as the DB would *steal away* with her artefact if they so choose to. Of course you can't complete the Thieves Guild but hey the Grey Cowl has had its consequences too.

I would say for Dawnguard the best reward are the Restoration spells that hammer the Undead , useful if you don't get heavy DST magic . On the vampire side I would say the ring of the beast which is great for an unarmed build. Or just level alchemy and enchanting to break the game .

My least favorite quest reward is the Gaulder's Amulet. I haven't done that quest in awhile, but I remember it being rather long and when I saw the stats on the reward Amulet I was properly irked. Because amulets are supposed to be so much cooler than a tiny tiny tiny little bit of stats

I honestly have no idea what the thieves reward is because who is really giving up the skeleton key?

Dagoth, is it cool if I get all the dark elf big booty knife ears a lil later on? I gotta catch up on some work

1:29 to be fair, there are so many lockpicks just laying around, an unbreakable lockpick isn't a "must have"

you can use the staff of magnus to unlock areas in the soul cairn

At least finishing the Dark Brotherhood quests gets you BIG money

If memory serves the Tribunal faction is Creation Club/Anniversary Edition exclusive. Having played oldrim alot and 100%ing dragonborn/Solstheim I don't remember seeing them there.

I only gave up the Skeleboy Key once I got unbreakable lockpicks after a very long time.

I love the reward for the Thieves Guild questline, because Nocturnal basically insults you for daring to ask for one. She basically points out that you became a Nightingale and swore to serve her already. You're not an unaffiliated champion, doing her a favor; you're her employee, doing your damn job after Karliah already screwed the pooch and let Mercer Frey ruin things. The armor/weapons and the three powers she offers at the end aren't "rewards," as much as they're your paycheck.

Hear me out ABT the dawnguard rune axe. Every time, you kill ANY undead, it becomes one point stronger against the undead which is very strong after a while

You gotta level up your merchants in Fort Dawngaurd. Do their quests and it becomes a nice spot. If it was further from Riften it would be even better. Just an oupost with 3 traders, radiant quests, free followers, armored trolls if you want one and a questline key point. The DLC in total is too long. The fort itself isnt so bad.

I mean, I never found it too hard to level lockpicking regardless of the mods installed, but then I also cheat and combine the fortify alteration glitch with the thieves backpack so I don't even have to fiddle with the locks.

Played skyrim on Xbox 360, just picked it up for switch, and I'm waiting on it to go on sale for pc. I forgot how awesome this fucking game was. When I'm done I'm gonna play oblivion again.

You forgot the dragons priest mask in the college questline

I only do the Tribunal quest just to get the mask to complete my Dagoth Ur playthrough. Then I kill everyone in the temple to honor the sixth house and tribe unmourned.

You get all the TG stuff before you turn in the key, too. I just keep the key 😅

I've played this game for years, watched so many youtube videos on it, yet somehow I have never heard of the Tribunal Temple faction until just now. I had to look it up to make sure it wasn't a mod. What is this thing?

Excellent video Lord of the Sixth House your wisdom never ceases to amaze me. Also thanks for listing more reasons to never play Skyrim unmodded. I will note special mention to the stupid reward you get for destroying the Dark Brotherhood a paltry sum of money that you could get from selling the loot of a bandit camp I will note you left out Louis Letrush and Arvak from the DB rewards category also the acolytes due to have an advantage that being that they are essential and don't have a level cap. At least not one that would hinder their use late game make of that what you will. That said more reasons to not play Skyrim unmodded thus I recommend mods that overhaul the quest rewards from every faction mainly Reliquary of Myth and always use the Parthaanax Quest expansion. That said I've found ways to glitch the Skeleton Key into spawning a second one much like you can glitch Dawnbreaker. Suffice to say the moral of all this Bethesda's writers aren't the only ones who drop the ball the people who design items in this game also dropped it. Yet another example of way I will never play Skyrim unmodded, the rewards are shit without mods to actually make them worth using. especially considering there are ways with fortify enchanting to make gear that renders any quest reward weak by comparison but that requires a niche build that is so OP it makes Stealth Archery look balanced by comparison.

Both factions in Dawnguard DLC are indeed not that great. But at least they reward me with a goth chic.

By god these constant transitions are killing me!

Lockpick tree isn't useless, they literally have a perk called unbreakable, and it makes the skeleton key absolutely useless to keep. You can at least use the armor and weapon sets as displays for your house.

Shadowmere is also there. You should have mentioned it.

@ZakeandZach A bit unfair when it comes to the dawnguard/Volkhicar rewards) Mostly because you can very much define Auriels bow as a faction reward (at least in my eyes) which is obviously one of greatest weapons in the whole game

Staff of Magnus apparently can be used to cancel out dragon breath but you don't really need that when you can blast the everliving oblivion out of them

This is like Redbar but instead of it being hosted by Mike David, it’s Dagoth Ur 👌👌

Also don’t forget, you’re locked from becoming the guildmaster of the thieves guild until you return the key.

"Emil pagutortellini" xD

I was gonna say some stupid shit about lockpicking, but Dagoth Ur struck me down, and owned me.

Don't forget, giving the key back also means your soul is permanently bound to becoming some crypt guard in some dark hole no one knows about.

For me the most terrible quest reward was the "Oghma Infinium", It first made you go to a huge dwemer dungeon, Then told you to get blood off every Mer, Which is surprisingly harder than it sounds, And what you get for it? Five level ups on some skills. And that's it.

I love nightingale armor, wtf.

You don’t need the Lockpicking skill tree *or* the Skeleton Key. I end up with hundreds in every playthrough. Unless you’re just terrible at finessing a lock open, you really don’t need the Skeleton Key at all.

Might be hot take but i find the skeleton key to be extremely over rated what's point of infinite lock pick by the time of getting the skeleton you like 50 thousand of normal lock picks at that point and even if you somehow run low they are ridiculously easy to find and not to mention the sound trick that trivializes any non key doors.

crossbow recipe op. triple enchant heaviest hit 1st shot base weapon for a sneak archer with aoe enchanted arrows.

I would argue the thieves guild has the best reward: their fences, they carry a hell of a lot more gold than any of the honest merchants in the game making it easier to pawn off your loot

It feels like Bethesda REALLY wanted everyone to do smithing and enchanting, considering how there aren't any weapons/armor in the game that come close to the things you can craft (even without exploits). I literally max it and enchanting out on every single character as a result, which is boring af to do but feels necessary

Eel Spaghetti doesn't seem to have any idea how to write a faction story line for this setting.

Could you imagine if the Imperials actually gave you unique imperial armor for advancing through the ranks rather than garbage leveled loot? If only Bethesda had taken a moment to actually put cool loot in their game. Maybe next one

I need help Sharmat. My wife’s going to leave me if I don’t stop referring to her refusal to make me ash yams as her “grand and intoxicating innocence.”

I will say in defense of the Staff of Magnus that it helps a lot when fighting dragon priests underleveled.

you forgot the orks & the mega hammer thingy

What if the real quest rewards were the friends we made along the way?

Something that blows my mind. You kill the motherloving Emperor of Tamriel, the same guy who kept the Thalmor at bay with that battle at the Imperial City and then signed the White-Gold Concordat, and you get... 20,000 gold? Like, really? Bethesda?