how could you be so naive

Sweet Nerevar.

Shame on you

I'm a God. How can you kill a God?

Or rather guilt?

Dagoth Ur was a SNAKE before the events at Red Mountain, and he never died in the events there; he was badly injured but escaped, and later recovered the tools of Kagrenac and used them to make himself a god just as Vivec and Almalexia did, the difference being that he was far more twisted than either of them...

His immortality is proof that he betrayed Nerevar. If he was loyal, he wouldn't have used the heart in the first place.

@@JimIBobIJones Bruh he double crossed the Dwemer by telling Nerevar about the Heart, then he double crossed Nerevar by telling the Nords about the Heart, then he double crossed everyone by taking the Heart for himself. Dagoth Ur is a legit sh*t bag.

@@fresh2182 the official narrative is written by the victors - the tribunal - and contradicted in other sources within the game itself. It is heavily hinted and all but confirmed that it is actually the tribunal themselves that betrayed and murdered Nerevar as he was wary of their promise to Azura and refused to let anyone use the heart. This creates a massive open question about the real history of Dagoth Ur. The developers intentionally left it ambiguous what happened at red mountain, who betrayed who, when and how. But one thing that is indisputable by the very fact that he is a) alive and b) immortal is that Dagoth Ur did use the heart well before the tribunal did and before Nerevar died. Which means Dagoth is definitely guilty of betraying Nerevar and Azura on the oath as much as the Tribunal.

@@JimIBobIJones You're right about the unreliable narrator, but the thing is that *EVERY* version of events, across every culture, from Nord, to Ashlander, to House/Tribunal, all basically call Dagoth Ur a devil/betrayer if he is mentioned at all, and it's obvious from how twisted he is in game that he never was a good person.

Get a better mask and more stylish underwear, duh. They're objecting to your fashion.

Get pecs bro

How can you arrest a god?

@@thatguy771ify what a grand and intoxicating innocence

Probably because that’s his fighting stance should’ve shot fireballs from your hands

MMGA make Morrowind great again. As it should be

"So this is how you honor the second thumb and the feature unmourned?"

​@@Dislike-kq9uqI can't tell of this is genuine or mocking cringe

What cringe? ​@@user-wj1kg8qo3p

I disagree with your image, thumbs UP, actually.

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I always thought that he was just so arrogant and delusional that he believed everyone was just one of his separate physical bodies, so it didn’t matter what exactly happened to them.

@@floobybadoop6814 I am dagoth me, you are dagoth you, and we all are dagoth ur :-p

😮👏

@@floobybadoop6814Dagoth Smith

Sweet Nerevar 😏🌋

His heart was indeed in the right place. He had an extra chamber for it. 🥁

If only he wasn't such a shameless racial supremacist...

never have i heard a more relatable dilemma

Morrowind was my 1st Elder Scrolls amd my 1st rpg that wasn't JRPG. I too adore it. I always hated the tribunal as turn coats and now zealots and empathize with Dagoth but not enough to betray Azura. I was always hard core in her corner since she first spoke to me.

the only reason they didn't allow it is because it would require a dragonbreak in order to retain the cohesion of the saga. it seems like they put a lot of work into preventing choices that can't be included into the canon at least broadly.

@@entropicflux8849 good point in fact. Somethings thou.. are often left open ended by player characters. Like decisions in big quest lines.. in future games they say it's unknown if ( for example) the neravarine did this.. or whether they did that.. while some things are concrete. Seems they could've had a ending where even taking the evil route.. eventually something corrected it ect. Just a fun idea I guess. At the same time this may be one of those concrete things.

@@brandonbest8489 yeah, they could have had dagoth ur win in a way that still proves asura correct if they had put some effort into it. and at the end of the day, there's always dragon breaks to rely on...

I had the same feeling, back when I played Morrowind a lot. You're sort of given the impression that you'll get to make up your own mind, but then you're just railroaded into the canon ending. Back then I found a mod, Endrek's Sixth House mod, which allows you to rise from the lowly rank of Sleeper to join Dagoth Ur against the Tribunal and the Imperials. I had a lot of fun with it. I've no idea if the mod is still compatible with the current version of Morrowind, but if you still have the game it might be worth looking into.

"The other week I heard him say *can a N'wah borrow a sweet roll*, and my first thought wasn't*oh my god he said the n word*, it was N'wah, how is you gonna borrow a sweet roll? Is you gonna give it back?"

Surely months have passed and yhe revelation dawned upon me. The Divine Disease has taken a new form. No longer the Corpus offers eternal life and force them to sing to tye whims of Dagoth. They opened themselves to Amaranthic Insight and offered their voices into this strange new song. They are now aware yet unaware, being forced to say and sing things inocuous to blasphemous by mysterious forces like what Boethia did to Trinimac back in the Merethic Era. Now it begins to spread to parts unknown.

N'wah what?

I have also heard the voice of the sharmat, but he was talking about gnomes, and receiving a traumatic brain injury from an impact with a Menards truck, what a grand and intoxicating innocence, how can you diagnose a god?

I understood that reference lol

Doing so means essentially giving up all free will and becoming him.

It definitely would have made killing Alamexia(cant spell her name) more intresting

There's a possibility that even Alduin of all villains may be like this. Paarthanax will mention at some point, "Those who wish to delay the end only hasten it Those who hasten the end only delay it." It implies that there might be a threat out there someone tried to change the scheduling of when the end is supposed to happen. While the literal end of Nirn or Mundus seems like a bad thing there is meant to be a next world. For all everyone knows within Nirn the next world is meant to be a true paradise. Those who want to hasten the end of the current world want their paradise 'right now' never mind the wishes of the Divines. Those who want to delay it clearly do not have the people of NIrn's best interest at heart.

@@chadharger9323 I always wished to have an option to join Alduin. He seems to have a valid point since he is basically a god-sent being that is just doing his job of cleaning the world. Also I would rather join a powerful godly dragon in destroying the world than live in the same world led by those Aldmeri Dominion dumbasses.

@@RestInPieceBro But the best way to eat time is to do nothing and sit on your butt. that eats time really well.

Oh interesting I'm looking forward to it too now.

It's hard to find out the real facts as to what happened when truth is malleable by design. For all we know, we're actually following 1 side of a dragon break because the other side, Dagoth Ur destroyed the world in others.

@@thepopemichael I read somewhere that a Morrowind developer said the team didn't decided which version of events is true by the time of the game's completion. I do find it amusing that the ESO developers decided to throw in Khajiit warriors into the mix to made things more confusing instead of adding clarification.

@@badluck5647 To be fair, they were there already according to lore (Five Songs of King Wulfharth mentions it).

@@neoqwerty That is the Nordic version of events. You don't hear the orc perspective.

I hated it. I wanted a lore video, not a fucking roleplay.

Kinda' like the old Shoddycast days.

Mmm. Yes I found it amazing!

When did the Aedra become Limitfull earth bones? What is he saying at 17:05?

I think this style is genuinely genius.

Woah. Likening Voryn Dagoth to Zurin Arctus is... really, *really* opening up paths of thinking for me.

A good villain always has sympathetic goals, or sound reasoning for their motivations. Doesn',t make them any less evil in application though

didn't he want to enslave everybody that isn't a dark elf? is there ever a good reason to do something like that?

That is an excellent comparison but Dagoth Ur's reasoning and methods weren't good at all. Voryn Dagoth was likely an honorable good man but when he was killed whatever connection he formed with the tainted heart gave him a twisted corrupted and confused form of Chim. He actually thought he was the dreamer which means he actually thought reality was his dream and he was the god above all gods. The heart was twisted and corrupted by centuries of dwemer tampering and Dagoth got fucked over bigtime because of that. You got to remember that the dwemer already messed with the heart so much that there whole race ceased to age and if they weren't physically killed they could live forever. On top of that moment before Dagoth was told to guard the heart Kagranack used it and made his whole race vanish. That heart would not be something I would want to spend long periods of time around.

@@stinkmongerI know I'm 9 months late but: Consider the Velothi ideals of overcoming adversity and the whole Psijic Endeavor thing. I think if slavery was practiced in proper Velothi fashion it would be done only on those who 'should' be slaves, so basically those who can't take care of themselves. I think that if Dunmer applied Velothi philosophy to slavery they'd understand not to chase escaped slaves, as an escaped slave has proven they have the will and desire to take responsibility for their own life. I also think mistreating slaves is stupid and inefficient, making slaves who fear and hate you is counterintuitive to ensuring they work well. A slave who owes you for their life and knows it is much better I imagine, especially if they owe said life not because of some childish reason like "because he lets me live" but rather "because he provides me with what I need to survive in exchange for servitude". Now granted this does bring up the question of where the slaves come from, as very few would willingly be enslaved. The answer is simply criminals, prisoners of war, or others who are incarcerated for the safety of themselves or others. A good slave owner should seem like a therapist performing rehabilitation disguised as ownership. That being said, Dagoth didn't actually want to enslave everyone who wasn't a Dunmer, he wanted to enslave everyone that wasn't himself, and even that is a gross oversimplification of the Corprus.

Ehh. Isn't the best way to advance in telvanni to slaughter anyone who opposes your ascension?

Nothing some poison can't help

Are you my mummy?

Are you my mummy?

Are you my mummy?

Are you my mummy?

wtf

Dagoth wasn't completely dead, unknown to the Tribunal. The Heart sustained him and his skin changed.

Dagoth Ur was a Chimer when he was struck down and is still one in the events of the game. His skin became dark because of Red Mountain's ashes (just like those ash vampires you see in the game). That volcano practically spewed ash 24/7.

Dragonbreaks be weird like that. Also, all of the parties involved in the affair who you can talk to are unreliable narrators.

​@@aumediwibisana4613 Possible. Hadn't considered that before.

@@Xbalanque84 What I understand is that whether Nerevar was betrayed or not, AlmSiVi used Kagrenac's tools on the Heart of Lorkhan. This is what angered Azura as they broke their promise. It happened after Dagoth Ur was taken down. In the version where Nerevar wasn't betrayed, it was Nerevar himself that killed Dagoth Ur. On the other where Nerevar was betrayed, it was AlmSiVi who killed Dagoth Ur.

The video ain't long enough to fall asleep to

@@vexile1239 people exist before the video starts...?

@@NoConsequenc3 what kind of dagothian fever dream made you believe humans actually exist outside of the content they watch on youtube?!? Gaw! Whats that? I should go touch grass?!? Whats grass? Is that the green stuff on the ground everywhere in oblivion?!?🤔

The weakness of mortals often creates the largest demons we will ever have to confront.

I hope you got her a copy of Morrowind for her birthday!

@@DrewmoraYT Every five year old girls dream present 😂

I read, "farming device" with argonians being first thing that came to my mind. I venerated the house unmourned too much it seems.

@@kharngotrekson1726 That is entirely fair. But I would never consider a farm tool 'cool as hell', it wouldn't honor the sixth house.

Morrowind lore blows skyrim and oblivion out of the water

Malakath - This is Scourge. Perhaps you've heard of it?

@@chadharger9323 Lay down your weapons. it is not too late for his mercy.

@@lazulenoc6863 A great physical and/or mental trauma will do something worse to a divine or daedric prince. Lokran(shattered body), Trinimac(now Malakath both mentally and physically), and Jiggy(now mentally Sheogorath) found out the hard way. For mortals at least they die. These immortal beings really don't have that luxury of being released from that kind of suffering.

Hell yeah 😎🤜🤛

Mephala wants a word...

Thanks, King ❤