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"Man they made the game so complicated these days" 10 minutes later "Anyone else remember when the game used to be complex like this?"

People talk shit about Mists until you bring up Vengeance. Tier 5 Warlock Set with Wrath Talents = Damage Cap.

Bring back OG Touch of Death and make it useable on asmon only

There are few times in my time playing that I remember seeing an ability and thinking "oh damn, that was crazy" but fuck me I'll never forget being smacked in the mouth with a 14 Million damage Lights Wrath during a Warsong Gulch RBG. That shit had me staring in disbelief for a while

The legendary Reckoning Bomb. That was the event that really made me curious about Paladin tanking way back when lol

i remember when i saw aluneth's hidden ability, drain arcane power around you to empower your staff, was a nice touch, too bad we had to give up our artifacts.

I miss Legion. I feel like it had the perfect amount of complexity to it while still keeping the qctual rotations and ampunt of abilities a person had to use all the time at a reasonable amount. Trying to keep up and work out whats going on in Retail now is impossible.

Right now, after last BfA patch, I'd add frost mage's Glacial Spike (from last BfA patch) to the list, which was able to do about 450% - 500% of average player HP (some mages did 2,5 mil. dmg with this one)

Okay, so while not as insane as what's mentioned here, feral druids in early Mists of Pandaria were quite insane. Bear Hug dealing 30% of the druid's max health as damage and stunning for 3 seconds, along with the other bleeds that you'd likely have applied before that almost guaranteed a kill on any squishy target who didn't have a healer. So it's a combo rather than a single ability. Although feral druids were hardly the only ones who were able to do such a thing.

I remember being fire and having to do the combustion combo, that addon was a massive help.

One time in Legion on Mythic Antoran High Command as Arms Warrior when all the adds came out I popped warbreaker which applied the colossus smash debuff to everything around me and with avatar and battle cry I had one execute that hit 3 of them due to sweeping strikes and they all crit, I’ll never forget seeing 3 13 million damage execute crits popping up. 1 button click and I did 39 million damage. I believe at that time there was also a class feature where MS buffed your next execute so that could have been how it got so high, my CDs all came up when the adds were low and previous MSs prepped this monster execute.

hte priest ability was once per day and i remember popping people in normal BG's out of nowhere. Was so fun xD

Wish they mentioned elemental shamans earth shock in Legion. I remember hitting 6mil crits with it near the end

Of course, as of Shadowlands they would have to add warrior spell reflect, which worked for a few weeks on bosses. So mythic level bosses could have their 1 shot kill spells reflected back at them.

i played combustion fire mage in cata for pvp, i had 65% base crit rate at the end of cata. you could just melt groups of players off 1 shatter pyro.

I friggin love vengeance and MOP in general. As a tank DK, I used to solo my August Celestial boxes. Always funny watching people think I was suiciding just to get the boss below half health before they'd join in.

deleted big fights in bgs with combustion super dot spread back in cata, was amazing

In MoP raiding fury. Warrior execute would prock with talent and enrage, and with temerity I remember hitting 4-7 million every 2 seconds when the boss was below 30%

Combustion of WoD was WAY more powerful due to double inferno strike trick + prismatic crystal... Good I miss this. I used to absolutely decimate arcanes back in the day.

Touch of Death, with my new legendary that reduces the cool down by 120 seconds.... *chef’s kiss*

We were insanely powerful in Legion.

Disc priest artefact overcharge happened more than once per week. If i remember correctly it proc after big amount of damage or healing

A few years ago, i was the healer for some really really high ranked guys. See, i mostly just do fps stuff so my naming here is horrid. But, i was healing as per se. Stuff went south for me, but my 2 teammates was alive and it came down to a warrior using an ability that have a 100% kill on use ability when you are below a certain % of HP. BUT! The really good dude of the 2 players used some ability i cannot even begin to name, and it's extremely hard to time but he used it. This usage acturally reflects the damage back to the user. So i am just watching these 2 guys clutch AS they badically had lost but the attacker insta died?.... I am typing this because i got no idea of what class it was, nor the spell or ability. But i do remember that this move enforced a death and only a palladin might survive with the omnipotent bubble they got for all i know. To me, that take the top spot. A super hard buggy break of the game that hit your hp quantity, hard coded into the game. It's probably patched, or too hard to do. But it's likely a 1:1 hit if the target's hp. So it's at infinite %. Before anyone call bs, first find the ability ay least. I think it was 2016 ish? 🤔

I think the inspiration for Monk's touch of death was from Ragnarok online where monk's would 1 shot people in pvp... good times.

I dont know asmonguy Combustion might be boring on paper but doing the rotation is actually super damn fun.

combustion was fun in cata, expecially when you had comb off cd, hot streak proc, and impact proc, in a aoe pull when that happened i hit upwards of 90k dps while others are sitting around 25-30k. fire mage is either weak af or overpowered when everything lines up and you have the fire triangle(impact proc, hot streak proc, and combustion)

It may not have had the hp % gains over characters but MoP Chaos bolt was op as hell... I was a middle of the pack geared toon in my 10 man.. It couldnt have been more than 10-15 sec into the Thok encounter and i hit a 4.5 million crit.. boss turned and killed me on the spot... most hilarious and embarrassing death ever

Cata combustion was so much fun.

Chains of frost with the legion legendary chest when it came out low geared allies beware if im in a mood xD

Rogue: YEP! I made my "Katrina" in WoW because of the ult in League was that.

Idk man spinning crane kick off vengeance with BM Monks were broken as shit too.

i wiped a gruuls lair on council with curse of doom, the curse killed the target and spawned a doom guard that went to town on our healer

Damn rougs where do op with cold blood ambush eviscerat preparation and than back to the start ❤️❤️❤️

i remember they added swipe aoe for feral druid in wrath. it would hit everything in front 180 degrees. big trash pull in icc, bunch of skels, i hit just over 30k dps. at level 80. was nerfed quickly.

Thalkiel's consumption with bloodlust, wakener's loyalty critting for 56 million in legion (can obviously go higher, i was only ilvl 950)

its actually not true though that it was the only time when players where able to somewhat oneshot raidbosses of the current tier - I remember back in throne of thunder there was a live fix for monks that broke them. and for about 4 hours monks had a bug where they could kill raid bosses with sweeping winds (I think) to somewhat 2-3 hit current tier raidbosses. that even got abused in that short time frame and caused a couple bans ;)

I could've sworn around warlords of draenor everyone was running around with a couple million health, am I misremembering or was it like that before the Stat squish

As a disc priest, you got Overloaded like twice a day max. Not once a week...

calling it - cataclysm pre release update - avengers shield absolutely nuking the main target, and nearly killing and silencing the next two

Man legion was so fun and unique

Level 80 paladins in MoP were able to one-shot end game raid bosses due to the vengeance glitch

They had that same ignite dot in eso lmao.

for the firemage thing, he forgotten dragonwraths staff, which was a huge factor and for sure was there an spot in rbgs, atleast in a dotcleave and was rly nice with cunning of the cruel. good times, cata / legion still the best.

*Complex combo is shown* >"This is so complicated what the hell come on man that's too much." *Ability gets nerfed to be simple* >"Booooring fucking blizzard." *Broken ability gets balanced* >"Fun detected ahah can't have that" (whilst the entire list is basically abilities from the same expansion, irony) I firmly believe at this point nothing Blizzard does again will ever please players. People just bitch and bitch about everything. They want to hate the game.

A lot of calculations work off of % scaling anyway. So when you see a 4k versus a 40 million number in different expansions and the same ability, it's mostly just visual, it does the same % of damage (of whatever budget reference they use) barring balance adjustments. I think once you realize that, it's easier to not freak out about the number inflation, but it's still silly.

Thakiels consumption.. get 50 stacks and wait for the buff in Blackrook hold final boss.. I crit 100m with average gear

Why dident he talk about the Firemage combustion strat used in the Firelands raid on Alysrazor? Even a half decent geared firemage could deal 50% of that boss hp with combustion alone. Surely that must have qualified for this list.

For PvP. Original Stormstrike + Windfury totem would easily 1 shot enemies. Original Reckoning. Was just ridiculous. Infinite stacks lol. 1 swing crashed the realm. He blew a hole throw the fabric of time

legion rogues were absolutely insane lmao

Fan Of Knives thing worked in PvE too. I watched Quin69 play with Korean rogues that abused it in m+.

soul capacitor

12.44 now you can one shot the lot on a level 60 tank demon hunter

I remember cata fire mage

I miss Thal'Kiel's consumption :~(

"First and only time a player was able to one shot a raid boss from that current expansion" Not actuaaaally true. Blizzard had a brief period during Catacylsm where Paladins AoE seal (Seal of Command? It's been awhile) would incorrectly proc off of its AoE damage infinitely. I was able to use this to 1 shot Yor'sahj the Unsleeping in Dragon Souls by pulling the boss with all the slime mobs around him. After about 30-60 seconds of massive server lag, the boss and all the slimes would then fall over dead. I only did it the once and I didn't loot anything because I was spooked about getting in trouble.

crit chromaggus for 16k with soulfire

Surprised Obliterate during MoP wasnt on here. Id drunken bg with my cousin and we'd take a drink per killing blow and be wasted by the 2nd match .and I'd average anywhere from 30-50 kbs depending on the length of the battleground without even trying. I'd just 1 or two hit most horde and laugh... God I miss MoP lol

I remember fury warrior rampage stacking and did true 1shot bosses :P

My frost dk had 5.2 mil hp in legion and priest super charged me for 9 mil oneshotting me

Imagine a death squad that fan of knives you and delted you

I did 400 mil damage to world boss on my dh in legion

damn you are fast

Paladins could 1hit kill current raid bosses in BFA as well.

So by my totally correct napkin math, if a pally was able to one shot a raid boss by doing 200 times a players health, that means that 5-6 fire mages in MoP could probably have soloed raids under good conditions.

I loved fan of knives lol

im confuse he did not include fire mage pyroblast (legion) with the bracer. I was doing like 30m crit with that. way more that average player health.

Oh yea, these were so fun lmao. Nothing like doing the most damage in the game at a given point in WoW.

Already? Wow

Destro Locks in wotlk

Old days in legion

Rampage when it was first implemented.

"i wish they had recorded it"... at the sime time the video of the record is running... poor earth

i had lightswrath proc multiple times a day. it wasnt that rare. even a few times in a hour. i believe it got the overheated by playing alot and by not using the ability enough

I remember being a ret pally and during sunwell patch using seal of blood and hitting so hard it killed me, not to mention pvp bgs running in hitting trinkets and popping wings and 1 shotting 4 people at once with divine storm. Ret was fucking so much fun but yes it was op as fuck

I like how asmon takes so much pride in thinking he's some amazing tank just because he lootwhores every piece of equipment in the game and has an army of healers simping for him. All a tank is is a measure of how good the healers are.

No mention of dk's legendary from legion where it deletes people with icy chains...

Lvl 1 Asmon: "What" Lvl 15: "Wait what?" Lvl 30: "Wait what the fuck dude?" Lvl 45: "Holy fucking shit dude WTF!?!" Lvl 60: "Ok listen, here's the think about retail these days"

The kazzak solo took a few seconds because he had to switch weapons as they would break from durability loss. I think he used 3 total.

i hated the numbers in legion.. too big

16 times the damage

having mechanics in the game where 1 person in raid fails and its a wipe is like the worst thing you can do for wow, 0 fun... and all the rage on 1 person; better give ppl a chance with a damage over time to react.

Lol last i played retail my chaos bolt would crit 10 mil

I thought cata was around the 60k range?

I wonder if they'll let reckoning bomb live in classic wow.

TIL, Legion was Fun

What about the shaman that crit 25k in vanilla?

that feel when ppl think legion was complex rofl.

Most of these were legion and up which I stopped playing cata so these don’t mean shit to me

hahha! Asmon.. your reactions are epic man haha!

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The game stopped being complex in Cata, then they replaced complexity with bloat

Whenever i see legion Pepehands comment i just cringe. It was a fucking bad expansion like the rest after wotlk... Like asmon said before, you only think legion was good because it came after WOD, so it felt sort of lika a " relief ".

This is why Legion was utter garbage

WoW never did the Monk well.

No single ability has done more damage than frostbolt

"fun detected" yeah one shotting a raid boss that took 1-2 full raids to kill gets 3 shot by one guy, yeah thats "fun" lul